All your examples have VERY low entry barriers (especially compared to telco). For telco you have to realize cost of entry (even into a fairly small market) would be billions without regulations.
You have to remember what this issue was before major telco regulation. One single telco owned the wire leading to your house. It doesn't matter what great idea or inventive upstart comes along, unless they have the capital to run a new wire to everyones house thier dead in the water. The US government basically said "listen, we subsidized a lot of those wires so you have to share". This allows other telcos to enter the market without having to tear up every road in every town in the country to run wires everywhere.
Now it is true that wireless will dramatically lower cost of entry, but wireless will never be as reliable as a wired connection and availablity of wireless is still very sparse at best.
As a rule, I'm against regulation myself and think the market should sort it out. Even in the case of MS$. I think they should be able to bundle whatever they want with the OS. Its not that hard to download something else if you want it. Now the market may be pretty stupid and allow annoying shit to take place, but either you believe in free markets or you don't. The markets should control what is available unless there are extraortdinary circumstances. To me telcos controlling the wire coming into your house is one of those extraordinary circumstances. If I will be forced to sell my house and move 100 miles away to choose a competitor's product, thats a bit over the top even for me.
Look around at what other "managers" are doing to get thier way and follow that lead.
It seems the US "manager" has found a solid plan for conviencing others what "needs" to be done. Learn that lesson and upon your next meeting explain that if they don't allow you to implement the needed changes then the terrorists win!
Microsoft will never be kind to a F/OSS option in terms of IP licensing... perhaps Visto will.
NTP (the patent trolling company suing BlackBerry), just got recieved an equity stake in Visto (cannot find how much) like the same day Visto sues MS. OK, MS may not be the nicest to F/OSS, but you seriously think think a patent trolling company now owning a stake in Visto boads well for its contributions?
Also, here are the patents Visto says are being infringed on. OK, I haven't read the patents in detail, but just the titles make my head spin at patents being granted for this stuff:
* U.S. Patent No. 6,085,192 titled, "System And Method For Securely
Synchronizing Multiple Copies Of A Workspace Element In A Network"
* U.S. Patent No. 6,708,221 titled, "System And Method For Globally And
Securely Accessing Unified Information In A Computer Network"
* U.S. Patent No. 6,151,606 titled, "System And Method For Using A
Workspace Data Manager To Access, Manipulate And Synchronize Network
Data"
I certainly agree with your vision of the future, but its not just about falsh getting cheaper. Flash still isn't great at high throughput. A while ago I built a PC with a falsh harddrive (via IDE to Flash adapter). Now I have to benchmark data for this, but it was very fast in a responsive way, but things like copying big files, launching large applications, or any activity where lots of data is read off the disk it seemed slower than a normal disk.
Now my setup (of the adapter) I'm sure isn't ideal and when we get to that point I think the flash modules will probably attach directly to the MOBO (similar to today's memory)which can certainly help with performance, but in my experience it besides price there are some technological hurdles relating to speed yet to be addressed.
The questions seemed pretty fair and even to me. The thing that struck me was the MS guy came across as a gamer chating about games and tech while the Sony guy came across as a suit talking about business plans.
Was it just me?
And as a fellow arogant English speaker, I must say I don't like your spelling of headkase. I've decided your name should be spelled HeadCase. How you think your own name should be spelled is irrelevant! I've decided you are now HeadCase.
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Are you sure about that??? I was doing some work in voice recognition software at the time and am pretty sure Lernout & Hauspie was bought by ScanSoft (now Nuance I think). Now I guess MS may be licensing some of the Lernout & Hauspie tech from them (I've seen no evidence of this), but I'm pretty sure they didn't buy L&H.
No it said ".83 cents". 0.83 cents != 83.00 cents..83 cents == 0.0083 dollars. Where the decimal point is matters;-)
But yeah I took a double take on that as well. I knew the US$ wasn't doing great, but I knew it wasn't doing that bad;-) Certainly wasn't as clear as it could have been, but then it's a/. summary, so clarity is penalized.
I was thinking the same thing. It seems the NSA would probably be the ideal choice for this. I wonder if this is some legal issue. Does the NSA mandate allow for it to "wage war" or is it limited to inteligence/signals intercept/etc work? I'm really guessing here, but I think this may be more an issue of who's mandate allows some of the planned activities than who is most suited for the job.
This stuff just drives me crazy!!!! MS was the first to bring online sat images to the net by about a decade. Google copied the concept, but its OK because you like Google better and you think thier product is amazing while the way MS did it sucks. Now MS copies a minor thing like draging an image and its just wrong!
To me this is not just a Google Live/MS Live issue. Same for iPod fan boys who go crazy when another MP3 play copies the color of the case or some stupid detail, but its fine that Apple copied all the functional ideas from others.
Everyone goes on and on about how competion is good, but as soon as someone does something similar to one of thier little "pet" products suddenly its just horrible (even if thier "pet" product is just as guilty as others of copying others).
My complaint isn't about Google or any specific product or company. EVERYONE COPIES EVERYONE ELSE!!!! Thats it, and you know what? Thats a great thing! That lets everyone gain from incremental improvements that are made because of the cycle of copy and improve (or as others would say "embrace and extend").
Intellectually I'm sure we all understand this, but somehow once its "our" product being copied in some little way, we go off bitching about it. STOP IT!!!!!
If you want to model a business app, clone Outlook (which doesn't feature tabs)......90% of the time when there is a "choice", the designers should have had the balls to save everyone the trouble and just picked one model.
While I agree Outlook is a nice user-friendly app (and MUCH better than Notes IMO), I don't see the above statements to be all that consistant. Outlook probably has more "choices" than just about any basic app out there. Now there are certainly other apps with more, but trying to think of "generic" apps used by huge numbers of people I don't know if I can think of any others which are more customizable, have more options, etc.
No its not Microsoft specific, but I think they were refering to MS as creator of it. MS began using AJAX in the early 90s I think (of course without the cool new buzz-word) and was made possible by thier extenion "HttpRequest" (don't quote me on that as I'm not a web developer but I'm pretty sure thats the command) to the existing commands. This new HttpRequest was created to support Outlook Web Access (which I believe was the first "AJAX" application). Now I'm sure others can give a better history of this, but thats why its sometimes refered to as MS technology.
BTW, HttpRequest (AJAX) was just another example of that EVIL "embrace and extend" of MS;-)
OT: I cannot find the actual ruling just crappy summaries like above. Anyone know a link?
OK, back on topic.
Force them to provide links to competitors
Who decides what competitors to provide links to? How many? Maybe I'm a bit cynical, but for some reason I expect to see langauge in the ruling which will require links to certain South Korean competion (like Daum who originally made these complaints). Not that supporting local companies is bad, I'm just curious what back room deals where made in wording this to give certain specific companies an advantage more than opening to all companies in general.
Apparently his blog described several bouts of what could be considered "binge drinking."
Sure, I guess it could if you don't bother with the medical definition of binge drinking or the clinical assement done by a professional on this student. Here it is just in case:
A clinical assessment of the student done by a psychotherapist at American Behavioral Clinics said of the student that "it became clear that he does not presently have any issues that would concern me clinically." And further, the student's "behavior regarding the use of alcohol is recreational or episodic in nature and in no way would I characterize it as overuse or abuse."
IMHO you shouldn't disparage someone in a public forum
Fair enough. Who exactly did he disparage BTW? Oh right, some unnamed people. I wonder how those people with no names sleep at night?
My own personal experience is that people that get called before the Dean of students probably deserve to get kicked out
OK, I guess that settles it. He deserved it!
Throw in the fact that instead of apologizing, accepting probation, and keeping his nose clean this kid *demands* a conduct hearing.
I guess he thought he had a right to give his side of the story and have a fair hearing. Seriously, where did he think he was going to school? America or something? Next thing you know criminals will *demand* a trial before being sent to prison. I mean seriously, in my personal experience if you get arrested for something you probably deserve to go to jail.
Then this kid gets his conduct hearing
At which he was barely allowed to address those thier and his witnesses were told not to show up because they wouldn't be allowed to speak (even though those witnesses were faculty themselves). Not much of a hearing an any sense of the word I can think of. Again, where does he think he is? America? At least Marquette doesn't have a law program....oh wait they do! VERY SCARY!!!!
I mean, seriously, how mad do you have to be at someone before you go to the Dean and point out crap they say in their blog?
Oh sorry, didn't realize he made someone mad. Your right, kick him out!
I'd never suggest harassing anyone, but if you want to contact the ass-hat responsible for this and let them know what you think about it here is his info from the Marquette directory.
Name: Lynch, Dr. Denis P. Phone: (414) 288-7267 Position: Professor of Surgical Sciences and Associate Dean for Academic Affairs Department/Office: School of Dentistry/Office of the Dean Location: Dental School 304C Email Address: denis.lynch@marquette.edu
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All your examples have VERY low entry barriers (especially compared to telco). For telco you have to realize cost of entry (even into a fairly small market) would be billions without regulations.
You have to remember what this issue was before major telco regulation. One single telco owned the wire leading to your house. It doesn't matter what great idea or inventive upstart comes along, unless they have the capital to run a new wire to everyones house thier dead in the water. The US government basically said "listen, we subsidized a lot of those wires so you have to share". This allows other telcos to enter the market without having to tear up every road in every town in the country to run wires everywhere.
Now it is true that wireless will dramatically lower cost of entry, but wireless will never be as reliable as a wired connection and availablity of wireless is still very sparse at best.
As a rule, I'm against regulation myself and think the market should sort it out. Even in the case of MS$. I think they should be able to bundle whatever they want with the OS. Its not that hard to download something else if you want it. Now the market may be pretty stupid and allow annoying shit to take place, but either you believe in free markets or you don't. The markets should control what is available unless there are extraortdinary circumstances. To me telcos controlling the wire coming into your house is one of those extraordinary circumstances. If I will be forced to sell my house and move 100 miles away to choose a competitor's product, thats a bit over the top even for me.
Look around at what other "managers" are doing to get thier way and follow that lead.
;-)
It seems the US "manager" has found a solid plan for conviencing others what "needs" to be done. Learn that lesson and upon your next meeting explain that if they don't allow you to implement the needed changes then the terrorists win!
bye-bye karma
I surely wouldn't be passing it on to NASA on the nebulous chance of a "grant". What!?!?!? Doesn't your information want to be free???
Better yet! I say we go directly after NTP.
..... oh, never mind.
From this point on, I swear I will never buy a single product from NTP!
Microsoft will never be kind to a F/OSS option in terms of IP licensing... perhaps Visto will.
NTP (the patent trolling company suing BlackBerry), just got recieved an equity stake in Visto (cannot find how much) like the same day Visto sues MS. OK, MS may not be the nicest to F/OSS, but you seriously think think a patent trolling company now owning a stake in Visto boads well for its contributions?
Also, here are the patents Visto says are being infringed on. OK, I haven't read the patents in detail, but just the titles make my head spin at patents being granted for this stuff:
* U.S. Patent No. 6,085,192 titled, "System And Method For Securely Synchronizing Multiple Copies Of A Workspace Element In A Network"
* U.S. Patent No. 6,708,221 titled, "System And Method For Globally And Securely Accessing Unified Information In A Computer Network"
* U.S. Patent No. 6,151,606 titled, "System And Method For Using A Workspace Data Manager To Access, Manipulate And Synchronize Network Data"
Isn't there a utility you could use to just convert your 128 mp3's to FLAC?
;-)
Yes, I'm kidding
I certainly agree with your vision of the future, but its not just about falsh getting cheaper. Flash still isn't great at high throughput. A while ago I built a PC with a falsh harddrive (via IDE to Flash adapter). Now I have to benchmark data for this, but it was very fast in a responsive way, but things like copying big files, launching large applications, or any activity where lots of data is read off the disk it seemed slower than a normal disk.
Now my setup (of the adapter) I'm sure isn't ideal and when we get to that point I think the flash modules will probably attach directly to the MOBO (similar to today's memory)which can certainly help with performance, but in my experience it besides price there are some technological hurdles relating to speed yet to be addressed.
The questions seemed pretty fair and even to me. The thing that struck me was the MS guy came across as a gamer chating about games and tech while the Sony guy came across as a suit talking about business plans. Was it just me?
And as a fellow arogant English speaker, I must say I don't like your spelling of headkase. I've decided your name should be spelled HeadCase. How you think your own name should be spelled is irrelevant! I've decided you are now HeadCase.
I don't know here is what I was thinking:
Not sure what to get for the WorldCom/Enron executive on your Christmas list who has everything? Well look no further! Now available just in time for the holdidays, the self destructing SMS client!!! Works with all the speed and convience of a regular SMS client, but without the pesky audit trail those nosey SEC investigators are always looking for! The perfect gift for that special someone who just dosen't have the time to fully cover up their embezellment/fraud! Saving someone a prison sentence shows you really care.
Microsoft bought up the Lernout & Hauspie company
Are you sure about that??? I was doing some work in voice recognition software at the time and am pretty sure Lernout & Hauspie was bought by ScanSoft (now Nuance I think). Now I guess MS may be licensing some of the Lernout & Hauspie tech from them (I've seen no evidence of this), but I'm pretty sure they didn't buy L&H.
No it said ".83 cents". 0.83 cents != 83.00 cents. .83 cents == 0.0083 dollars. Where the decimal point is matters ;-)
;-) Certainly wasn't as clear as it could have been, but then it's a /. summary, so clarity is penalized.
But yeah I took a double take on that as well. I knew the US$ wasn't doing great, but I knew it wasn't doing that bad
I was thinking the same thing. It seems the NSA would probably be the ideal choice for this. I wonder if this is some legal issue. Does the NSA mandate allow for it to "wage war" or is it limited to inteligence/signals intercept/etc work? I'm really guessing here, but I think this may be more an issue of who's mandate allows some of the planned activities than who is most suited for the job.
OK fanboy.
This stuff just drives me crazy!!!! MS was the first to bring online sat images to the net by about a decade. Google copied the concept, but its OK because you like Google better and you think thier product is amazing while the way MS did it sucks. Now MS copies a minor thing like draging an image and its just wrong!
To me this is not just a Google Live/MS Live issue. Same for iPod fan boys who go crazy when another MP3 play copies the color of the case or some stupid detail, but its fine that Apple copied all the functional ideas from others.
Everyone goes on and on about how competion is good, but as soon as someone does something similar to one of thier little "pet" products suddenly its just horrible (even if thier "pet" product is just as guilty as others of copying others).
My complaint isn't about Google or any specific product or company. EVERYONE COPIES EVERYONE ELSE!!!! Thats it, and you know what? Thats a great thing! That lets everyone gain from incremental improvements that are made because of the cycle of copy and improve (or as others would say "embrace and extend").
Intellectually I'm sure we all understand this, but somehow once its "our" product being copied in some little way, we go off bitching about it. STOP IT!!!!!
I get the worst, worst software almost always from Apple.
;-)
This Woz guy is obviously a MS$ fanboy troll!
If you want to model a business app, clone Outlook (which doesn't feature tabs)......90% of the time when there is a "choice", the designers should have had the balls to save everyone the trouble and just picked one model.
While I agree Outlook is a nice user-friendly app (and MUCH better than Notes IMO), I don't see the above statements to be all that consistant. Outlook probably has more "choices" than just about any basic app out there. Now there are certainly other apps with more, but trying to think of "generic" apps used by huge numbers of people I don't know if I can think of any others which are more customizable, have more options, etc.
No its not Microsoft specific, but I think they were refering to MS as creator of it. MS began using AJAX in the early 90s I think (of course without the cool new buzz-word) and was made possible by thier extenion "HttpRequest" (don't quote me on that as I'm not a web developer but I'm pretty sure thats the command) to the existing commands. This new HttpRequest was created to support Outlook Web Access (which I believe was the first "AJAX" application). Now I'm sure others can give a better history of this, but thats why its sometimes refered to as MS technology.
;-)
BTW, HttpRequest (AJAX) was just another example of that EVIL "embrace and extend" of MS
It is worth noting this statement at the bottom of the page.
This is a spoof article. Please compare it with the original and you will see how little it has been changed.
That said some of the points are valid, but the article was basically showing how those same things were valid at one point for using frames as well.
If that headline doesn't send MA a message on switching to OpenDoc nothing will.
I may be a bit slow, but I don't get it.
OT: I cannot find the actual ruling just crappy summaries like above. Anyone know a link?
;-)
OK, back on topic.
Force them to provide links to competitors
Who decides what competitors to provide links to? How many? Maybe I'm a bit cynical, but for some reason I expect to see langauge in the ruling which will require links to certain South Korean competion (like Daum who originally made these complaints). Not that supporting local companies is bad, I'm just curious what back room deals where made in wording this to give certain specific companies an advantage more than opening to all companies in general.
Now taking tin-foil hat off
Yes, so we agree this isn't an example of binge drinking then right?
Apparently his blog described several bouts of what could be considered "binge drinking."
Sure, I guess it could if you don't bother with the medical definition of binge drinking or the clinical assement done by a professional on this student. Here it is just in case:
A clinical assessment of the student done by a psychotherapist at American Behavioral Clinics said of the student that "it became clear that he does not presently have any issues that would concern me clinically." And further, the student's "behavior regarding the use of alcohol is recreational or episodic in nature and in no way would I characterize it as overuse or abuse."
IMHO you shouldn't disparage someone in a public forum
Fair enough. Who exactly did he disparage BTW? Oh right, some unnamed people. I wonder how those people with no names sleep at night?
My own personal experience is that people that get called before the Dean of students probably deserve to get kicked out
OK, I guess that settles it. He deserved it!
Throw in the fact that instead of apologizing, accepting probation, and keeping his nose clean this kid *demands* a conduct hearing.
I guess he thought he had a right to give his side of the story and have a fair hearing. Seriously, where did he think he was going to school? America or something? Next thing you know criminals will *demand* a trial before being sent to prison. I mean seriously, in my personal experience if you get arrested for something you probably deserve to go to jail.
Then this kid gets his conduct hearing
At which he was barely allowed to address those thier and his witnesses were told not to show up because they wouldn't be allowed to speak (even though those witnesses were faculty themselves). Not much of a hearing an any sense of the word I can think of. Again, where does he think he is? America? At least Marquette doesn't have a law program....oh wait they do! VERY SCARY!!!!
I mean, seriously, how mad do you have to be at someone before you go to the Dean and point out crap they say in their blog?
Oh sorry, didn't realize he made someone mad. Your right, kick him out!
Not so "proprietary". Here is the license it uses: Creative Commons, Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5.
Also here is a blog post by its creator if you want to read more about and what it is meant to accomplish without digging through the spec.
Not bad!
I'd never suggest harassing anyone, but if you want to contact the ass-hat responsible for this and let them know what you think about it here is his info from the Marquette directory.
Name: Lynch, Dr. Denis P.
Phone: (414) 288-7267
Position: Professor of Surgical Sciences and Associate Dean for Academic Affairs
Department/Office: School of Dentistry/Office of the Dean
Location: Dental School 304C
Email Address: denis.lynch@marquette.edu
Yeah, in those cases they've broken from the official spec...those embace and extend OSS bastards!!!!!! ;-)