And with that migration plan comes a fairly-assured income stream as I'm pretty sure a significant portion of SCO's current customers will want an upgrade some time this decade...
I think the problem is that a significant portion of SCO's current customers will want an upgrade some time this decade. For instance to Xenix or Windows 3.0.
When they release an Open Source driver for a newer card, let me know. There occasional announcement of vague future plans just don't cut it. In the meantime I'm going to back to sleep.
What, like the RadeonHD driver for R500/600 being developed by FreeDesktop.org based on the specs that ATI released?
p.s. Oooh! I just dissed ATI! Expect this post to be modded into oblivion within ten minutes.
Personally I've always been modded up for dissing ATI. I'd like to think that you'd get modded down for not actually knowing anything about the subject you're commenting on and not being insightful, informative or funny.
Maybe the solution for the bleeding edge problem is to have STABLE Linux kernel APIs for graphics cards. You know, just like how the rest of the world works.
Fuck you. Move to a different OS and try to ruin that with your retarded suggestions instead. Alternatively fork the kernel and implement what you're asking for. The best bit is that if you're unable to do that, you are automatically unqualified to tell the kernel devs that they should be doing it.
do i see this good ? i can kill a windows pass in a 2 min process, booting over system a small Linux pack to delete administrator pass, whoops, seems I forgot again windows is so strong in password protection:))
I swear that one day I'm going to make a WinPE CD with Ext2/Ext3 support included, just so that people can use it to do the same thing to Linux systems with Windows and wipe the smug grins off the faces of people like you.
There are many ways in which Linux is better than Windows. This is not one of them. Anyone who believes it is knows more about Windows than they do about Linux.
Retinal scans and finger prints canners are surefire ways to loose an eye or your thumb.
If only they would stop using such high powered lasers for the retinal scans, we could avoid all these tragic blinding incidents. And why are fingerprint scanners always fitted with guillotines? These companies aren't even paying lip service to the Health & Safety legislation.
Yeah, I eventually figured out what you actually meant, but you could have made it easier on the people reading your comment.
As far as I know, the problem isn't that Greenpeace went after Apple on false ideas, the problem is they went only after Apple.
That's only really a problem if you think that unfair attacks on Apple's public image are more important than the environment. I propose we take a poll on the issue and use everyone who agrees with the preceding statement for biofuel. We've confirmed that the iPhone blends - now it's time to try the iUsers.
And please, don't get all upset just because I'm "thinking different" about solutions to the energy crisis.
Who is he astroturfing for? Or could it be you... Well, if we were to go through with his nutjob scheme it would artificially boost the sales figures of the game, increasing its chart position and thereby causing more people to buy it. On the other hand he may just be really, really stupid and unable to foresee this unintended side effect.
So it could be astroturfing, massive stupidity or something else. But this is Slashdot and you won't find many posts that aren't covered by the first two options.
I still don't have clue why Real spares their time and money to a platform they don't make any money from and get flamed even while they offer their million dollar assets (patents) for free to open source developers.
Yes, they are the same stupids who offers a complete media player solution to your AC favorite system along with its source code and complete framework.
Yes, but it sucks. Free crap is still crap and I don't quite see why I should thank someone for handing me a pile of shit.
As an example I recently tried using the Linux version of RealPlayer to watch the BBC News24 stream. It would play a couple of frames and then get stuck. Then I tried Mplayer using the codecs that got installed with RealPlayer. Played fine.
So the codec's alright but everything else sucks. Did they donate the source to their latest RealVideo codec or just the parts that sucked donkey cock? I think you already know the answer.
I have been using Comic Sans MS for years, and finally it seems that most OSes include this font.
Have you ever seen that photo of the Italian guy's gravestone that uses Comic Sans MS for the inscription? I only mention it because I hope you will have the conviction to imitate him. I also hope that you get the opportunity to do so soon.
Obviously I'm not being entirely serious and don't wish death on you just for using Comic Sans. I would probably settle for mutilation on a good day.
Nifty patch that (among others) adds similar safeguards to the linux kernel. Too bad it's not in the mainstream kernel.
Either you know enough to compile your own custom kernel, in which case you damn well know how to apply any patches you might want or you choose a distribution kernel which already includes the patches you want. Unless you use Slackware and get the vanilla kernel, but if you use Slackware you already know how to etc, etc...
So I don't see the problem unless you're just trying to say "Well Linux might have had this feature since 2001 but it doesn't count because it wasn't in the vanilla kernel". Or, "gresecurity should be in the kernel because I think it's clearly better than PaX despite the arguments that have been raging for years and everyone should listen to me".
If you think they should all be in there, just try patching a vanilla kernel with grsecurity, PaX and every other competing security enhancement. The degree of spectacular build failure you will likely experience should show you the amount of work involved in getting them all to co-exist. Unless you can empirically prove that one is better than the others?
The FPU power in a PS3 is on ther order of 200 times higher than that of the PS2 for single precision and considerably more for double precision (which is emulated in software on the PS2).
Double precision floating point is emulated in software on the PS3 as well.
I believe that by the US Gov't's somewhat outdated standards, a PS2 qualifies as a supercomputer.
Yeah, I heard that all Saddam Hussein wanted for Christmas was a supercomputing PS2 so that his missiles could render Toy Story in real-time. If you have any more Sony press releases you'd like to post, please don't hesitate. Oh wait, I just checked your post history and it seems you already have.
Regardless of what you want to call it, if Windows is starting to try some sort of verification and automated avoidance of such routes it could interfere with said defenses, possible resulting in routing loops, DDoSing a router somewhere, or use of more advanced defensive techniques.
You seem slightly confused about how the Internet works, so I'm guessing you work in sales. How exactly is your average Windows machine going to avoid these routes? Or influence the paths that its packets take once they've gone past the first router in any meaningful way whatsoever? Theoretically you can do some tricks with the various lesser known ICMP message types to change the routes that your packets take, but you don't seriously think that shit still works in real life do you? Just try doing some source routing from an average ADSL connected host and see how far you get. I guess if the Windows box was acting as a router for an ISP and running BGP then it could be an issue, but we're getting into the realms of surreal comedy here. Just remember that as a general rule your ISP decides how to route your packets, not you.
I'm pretty sure that the "black hole" stuff they're talking about is the old PMTU black hole issue. I'm equally sure that Windows 95 had a registry setting that turned on black hole detection, so I'd love to know what's actually new here.
They've deliberately attacked people that were consistently posting pro-linux stuff: just look at what they did to twitter, whose account is currently sitting in negative karma hell after having ACs copypaste the same exact diatribe at him for months.
I wouldn't touch Windows with a shitty stick and yet I have expended many mod points modding down that little fuck over the last few months. He is clearly a troll trying to make anybody who is genuinely (and sanely) pro-Linux look stupid by association. I'm glad he is being picked on and I will continue to help the effort whenever I get a chance.
I got sick of seeing it and I'm not even the guy they were targeting.
The fact that you even felt the need to mention that makes me suspect that you are in fact the same person. Although in this case maybe you got an adult to write the post for you.
Oh, and 20yrs old sources to historic versions of AmigaOS is our core intelectual property asset, so the release of them is never going to happen."
Answer me honestly - what is in there that anybody could possibly be interested in in this day and age? Do you really think that people have forgotten how to write an OS without memory protection? That there is really anything there that hasn't been re-implemented a hundred times better and more portably in the last 20 years?
I think I speak for everyone with any sense when I say that nobody wants your moldy old source.
Amiga is and will be the best platform, ever.
I find the idea of Amiga zealots very amusing. Unfortunately, the actual implementation tends towards the annoying.
More important point, the fact that a power supply can give a clean 5V when tested by a multimeter or an oscilloscope doesn't necessarily mean it won't drop when it will be connected to a machine drawing lots of A out of every outlet.
Well, duh! This is why you should always short the outputs to ground in order to ensure a proper current draw before testing the voltage. You'd be amazed how many supposedly high-end PSUs just give up and die when faced with my superior testing methodology. Pretty much 100% in fact.
chroot is not a security tool. Never has been, never will be. Still a handy tool though.
It's possible that you know this due to bitter experience and a deep knowledge of Unix internals.
It's about a thousand times more likely that you simply read the story about it on Slashdot last week and are parroting someone else's opinion in an attempt to appear informed. I'm certain it's the second explanation we're looking at here due to the fact that he didn't actually call it a security tool and that it's the only part of his post you felt able to reply to. In which case, congratulations! You are single handedly innovating a new kind of pathetic.
There are a huge number of threads I could reply to on this topic, but I'm doing so via an iPod Touch in a McDonald's.
Oh, how nice for you! Please do not hesitate to let us know if you buy any additional consumer products in the future. I do like to keep track of what people own.
Certainly calling this "resolved" is very, very premature. You don't get to call this "resolved" until the other guy agrees not to sue.
I really hope that Theo does sue over this, even if the matter is said to be resolved. Of course, this is because I would like to see him waste a lot of money, publicly humiliate himself and slow the adoption of his project due to the perceived legal risks. I have nothing against the OpenBSD project and no real opinion on the BSD Vs GPL license issues, but I do love seeing arrogant little fucks get what's coming to them, especially when it's by their own hand. I'd also like to see the OpenBSD devs counter-sued over the BCM driver affair. I know that Theo thinks there's a world of difference and that it can be dismissed as a deliberate attack by those "inhuman" Linux devs, but judges tend not to suffer from paranoid schizophrenia and may not see things the same way. Once you start threatening legal action, there tend to be consequences.
Do you think that Theo's handling of this matter has increased or decreased the amount of people who share my opinion?
How hard is it to run a tcpdump (or IOS's equivalent) on a core router to see what type of traffic is saturating the network?
It's very easy indeed to run these sort of debug commands on Cisco routers.
However, running them without crashing the router tends to take slightly more expertise. I highly recommend that anyone reading this who has access to a production Cisco router try running the "debug all" command. Mainly because I'm currently looking for a job and it would be good if a few vacancies suddenly opened up.
This isn't an isolated incident either. You cannot browse Google Groups in Konqueror. In the bug report they legitimately argue that it's Google's fault for not adhering to standards, but they still lost me as a user, and undoubtedly others also. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140531 [kde.org]
Firstly, this is offtopic and has nothing to do with Debian. Secondly either Google or the KHTML team must have fixed it because I couldn't reproduce the bug in Konqueror.
When you say they've lost you as a user, do you just mean Konqueror? If so, is there anything we can do to lose you as a Linux user as well?
Software produced by Fortinet, but not administered, supervised or maintained by Fortinet, is used by the government of Myanmar to censor the MWW.
Yes, you're quite right. Fortinet are only making money out of the situation and therefore should be entirely excused of any suggestion of wrongdoing. Likewise anyone selling arms to the Burmese government should also be excused because they're not the ones actually shooting monks in the fucking head.
If you disagree with my comparison, please do feel free to let us know exactly where the difference lies.
With a proprietary vendor you can take it back for repairs or replacement. How exactly will the "l33t dudes" in #linux on IRC help you in your time of need if you don't know how to fix your free software problem yourself?
This may come as a shock but generally speaking, phones which run Linux are actually manufactured by, well, manufacturers. They're not assembled from dumpster dived components by bearded hippies and then sold to unsuspecting consumers. I believe that some of them even come with warranties! And I would imagine that unlike Apple they have mastered the idea of having a boot ROM with sufficient smarts to fully reload the factory firmware no matter what bloody state the rest of the system is in. I don't know whether Apple created this situation due to evil or simple incompetence. But I would probably lean towards incompetence, because it's likely to annoy you more.
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I have a *huge* 30GB PDF/CHM library
Yeah, I download a lot of pirated e-books too! Thanks for letting us know.
I don't read many of them either, but I like to masturbate over the potential knowledge contained within.
And with that migration plan comes a fairly-assured income stream as I'm pretty sure a significant portion of SCO's current customers will want an upgrade some time this decade...
I think the problem is that a significant portion of SCO's current customers will want an upgrade some time this decade. For instance to Xenix or Windows 3.0.
When they release an Open Source driver for a newer card, let me know. There occasional announcement of vague future plans just don't cut it. In the meantime I'm going to back to sleep.
What, like the RadeonHD driver for R500/600 being developed by FreeDesktop.org based on the specs that ATI released?
p.s. Oooh! I just dissed ATI! Expect this post to be modded into oblivion within ten minutes.
Personally I've always been modded up for dissing ATI. I'd like to think that you'd get modded down for not actually knowing anything about the subject you're commenting on and not being insightful, informative or funny.
Maybe the solution for the bleeding edge problem is to have STABLE Linux kernel APIs for graphics cards. You know, just like how the rest of the world works.
Fuck you. Move to a different OS and try to ruin that with your retarded suggestions instead. Alternatively fork the kernel and implement what you're asking for. The best bit is that if you're unable to do that, you are automatically unqualified to tell the kernel devs that they should be doing it.
do i see this good ? i can kill a windows pass in a 2 min process, booting over system a small Linux pack to delete administrator pass, whoops, seems I forgot again windows is so strong in password protection :))
I swear that one day I'm going to make a WinPE CD with Ext2/Ext3 support included, just so that people can use it to do the same thing to Linux systems with Windows and wipe the smug grins off the faces of people like you.
There are many ways in which Linux is better than Windows. This is not one of them. Anyone who believes it is knows more about Windows than they do about Linux.
Retinal scans and finger prints canners are surefire ways to loose an eye or your thumb.
If only they would stop using such high powered lasers for the retinal scans, we could avoid all these tragic blinding incidents. And why are fingerprint scanners always fitted with guillotines? These companies aren't even paying lip service to the Health & Safety legislation.
Yeah, I eventually figured out what you actually meant, but you could have made it easier on the people reading your comment.
As far as I know, the problem isn't that Greenpeace went after Apple on false ideas, the problem is they went only after Apple.
That's only really a problem if you think that unfair attacks on Apple's public image are more important than the environment. I propose we take a poll on the issue and use everyone who agrees with the preceding statement for biofuel. We've confirmed that the iPhone blends - now it's time to try the iUsers.
And please, don't get all upset just because I'm "thinking different" about solutions to the energy crisis.
So it could be astroturfing, massive stupidity or something else. But this is Slashdot and you won't find many posts that aren't covered by the first two options.
I still don't have clue why Real spares their time and money to a platform they don't make any money from and get flamed even while they offer their million dollar assets (patents) for free to open source developers.
Yes, they are the same stupids who offers a complete media player solution to your AC favorite system along with its source code and complete framework.
Yes, but it sucks. Free crap is still crap and I don't quite see why I should thank someone for handing me a pile of shit.
As an example I recently tried using the Linux version of RealPlayer to watch the BBC News24 stream. It would play a couple of frames and then get stuck. Then I tried Mplayer using the codecs that got installed with RealPlayer. Played fine.
So the codec's alright but everything else sucks. Did they donate the source to their latest RealVideo codec or just the parts that sucked donkey cock? I think you already know the answer.
I have been using Comic Sans MS for years, and finally it seems that most OSes include this font.
Have you ever seen that photo of the Italian guy's gravestone that uses Comic Sans MS for the inscription?
I only mention it because I hope you will have the conviction to imitate him. I also hope that you get the opportunity to do so soon.
Obviously I'm not being entirely serious and don't wish death on you just for using Comic Sans. I would probably settle for mutilation on a good day.
Nifty patch that (among others) adds similar safeguards to the linux kernel. Too bad it's not in the mainstream kernel.
Either you know enough to compile your own custom kernel, in which case you damn well know how to apply any patches you might want or you choose a distribution kernel which already includes the patches you want. Unless you use Slackware and get the vanilla kernel, but if you use Slackware you already know how to etc, etc...
So I don't see the problem unless you're just trying to say "Well Linux might have had this feature since 2001 but it doesn't count because it wasn't in the vanilla kernel". Or, "gresecurity should be in the kernel because I think it's clearly better than PaX despite the arguments that have been raging for years and everyone should listen to me".
If you think they should all be in there, just try patching a vanilla kernel with grsecurity, PaX and every other competing security enhancement. The degree of spectacular build failure you will likely experience should show you the amount of work involved in getting them all to co-exist. Unless you can empirically prove that one is better than the others?
The FPU power in a PS3 is on ther order of 200 times higher than that of the PS2 for single precision and considerably more for double precision (which is emulated in software on the PS2).
Double precision floating point is emulated in software on the PS3 as well.
I believe that by the US Gov't's somewhat outdated standards, a PS2 qualifies as a supercomputer.
Yeah, I heard that all Saddam Hussein wanted for Christmas was a supercomputing PS2 so that his missiles could render Toy Story in real-time. If you have any more Sony press releases you'd like to post, please don't hesitate. Oh wait, I just checked your post history and it seems you already have.
Regardless of what you want to call it, if Windows is starting to try some sort of verification and automated avoidance of such routes it could interfere with said defenses, possible resulting in routing loops, DDoSing a router somewhere, or use of more advanced defensive techniques.
You seem slightly confused about how the Internet works, so I'm guessing you work in sales. How exactly is your average Windows machine going to avoid these routes? Or influence the paths that its packets take once they've gone past the first router in any meaningful way whatsoever? Theoretically you can do some tricks with the various lesser known ICMP message types to change the routes that your packets take, but you don't seriously think that shit still works in real life do you? Just try doing some source routing from an average ADSL connected host and see how far you get. I guess if the Windows box was acting as a router for an ISP and running BGP then it could be an issue, but we're getting into the realms of surreal comedy here. Just remember that as a general rule your ISP decides how to route your packets, not you.
I'm pretty sure that the "black hole" stuff they're talking about is the old PMTU black hole issue. I'm equally sure that Windows 95 had a registry setting that turned on black hole detection, so I'd love to know what's actually new here.
They've deliberately attacked people that were consistently posting pro-linux stuff: just look at what they did to twitter, whose account is currently sitting in negative karma hell after having ACs copypaste the same exact diatribe at him for months.
I wouldn't touch Windows with a shitty stick and yet I have expended many mod points modding down that little fuck over the last few months. He is clearly a troll trying to make anybody who is genuinely (and sanely) pro-Linux look stupid by association. I'm glad he is being picked on and I will continue to help the effort whenever I get a chance.
I got sick of seeing it and I'm not even the guy they were targeting.
The fact that you even felt the need to mention that makes me suspect that you are in fact the same person. Although in this case maybe you got an adult to write the post for you.
Oh, and 20yrs old sources to historic versions of AmigaOS is our core intelectual property asset, so the release of them is never going to happen."
Answer me honestly - what is in there that anybody could possibly be interested in in this day and age? Do you really think that people have forgotten how to write an OS without memory protection? That there is really anything there that hasn't been re-implemented a hundred times better and more portably in the last 20 years?
I think I speak for everyone with any sense when I say that nobody wants your moldy old source.
Amiga is and will be the best platform, ever.
I find the idea of Amiga zealots very amusing. Unfortunately, the actual implementation tends towards the annoying.
More important point, the fact that a power supply can give a clean 5V when tested by a multimeter or an oscilloscope doesn't necessarily mean it won't drop when it will be connected to a machine drawing lots of A out of every outlet.
Well, duh! This is why you should always short the outputs to ground in order to ensure a proper current draw before testing the voltage. You'd be amazed how many supposedly high-end PSUs just give up and die when faced with my superior testing methodology. Pretty much 100% in fact.
chroot is not a security tool. Never has been, never will be. Still a handy tool though.
It's possible that you know this due to bitter experience and a deep knowledge of Unix internals.
It's about a thousand times more likely that you simply read the story about it on Slashdot last week and are parroting someone else's opinion in an attempt to appear informed. I'm certain it's the second explanation we're looking at here due to the fact that he didn't actually call it a security tool and that it's the only part of his post you felt able to reply to. In which case, congratulations! You are single handedly innovating a new kind of pathetic.
Brass Eye is a very good parody of media hysteria.
Especially the pedophilia episode which caused media hysteria.
There are a huge number of threads I could reply to on this topic, but I'm doing so via an iPod Touch in a McDonald's.
Oh, how nice for you! Please do not hesitate to let us know if you buy any additional consumer products in the future. I do like to keep track of what people own.
Certainly calling this "resolved" is very, very premature. You don't get to call this "resolved" until the other guy agrees not to sue.
I really hope that Theo does sue over this, even if the matter is said to be resolved. Of course, this is because I would like to see him waste a lot of money, publicly humiliate himself and slow the adoption of his project due to the perceived legal risks. I have nothing against the OpenBSD project and no real opinion on the BSD Vs GPL license issues, but I do love seeing arrogant little fucks get what's coming to them, especially when it's by their own hand. I'd also like to see the OpenBSD devs counter-sued over the BCM driver affair. I know that Theo thinks there's a world of difference and that it can be dismissed as a deliberate attack by those "inhuman" Linux devs, but judges tend not to suffer from paranoid schizophrenia and may not see things the same way. Once you start threatening legal action, there tend to be consequences.
Do you think that Theo's handling of this matter has increased or decreased the amount of people who share my opinion?
Did anyone else notice the RJ45 jack on the back? What's that for?
An Internet connection of course. How else are they going to disable it when you play non-approved content?
How hard is it to run a tcpdump (or IOS's equivalent) on a core router to see what type of traffic is saturating the network?
It's very easy indeed to run these sort of debug commands on Cisco routers.
However, running them without crashing the router tends to take slightly more expertise. I highly recommend that anyone reading this who has access to a production Cisco router try running the "debug all" command. Mainly because I'm currently looking for a job and it would be good if a few vacancies suddenly opened up.
This isn't an isolated incident either. You cannot browse Google Groups in Konqueror. In the bug report they legitimately argue that it's Google's fault for not adhering to standards, but they still lost me as a user, and undoubtedly others also. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140531 [kde.org]
Firstly, this is offtopic and has nothing to do with Debian. Secondly either Google or the KHTML team must have fixed it because I couldn't reproduce the bug in Konqueror.
When you say they've lost you as a user, do you just mean Konqueror? If so, is there anything we can do to lose you as a Linux user as well?
Software produced by Fortinet, but not administered, supervised or maintained by Fortinet, is used by the government of Myanmar to censor the MWW.
Yes, you're quite right. Fortinet are only making money out of the situation and therefore should be entirely excused of any suggestion of wrongdoing. Likewise anyone selling arms to the Burmese government should also be excused because they're not the ones actually shooting monks in the fucking head.
If you disagree with my comparison, please do feel free to let us know exactly where the difference lies.
With a proprietary vendor you can take it back for repairs or replacement. How exactly will the "l33t dudes" in #linux on IRC help you in your time of need if you don't know how to fix your free software problem yourself?
This may come as a shock but generally speaking, phones which run Linux are actually manufactured by, well, manufacturers. They're not assembled from dumpster dived components by bearded hippies and then sold to unsuspecting consumers. I believe that some of them even come with warranties! And I would imagine that unlike Apple they have mastered the idea of having a boot ROM with sufficient smarts to fully reload the factory firmware no matter what bloody state the rest of the system is in. I don't know whether Apple created this situation due to evil or simple incompetence. But I would probably lean towards incompetence, because it's likely to annoy you more.