You're right of course about the animated series, I'd forgotten all about that - never saw it, but read about it and of the appearance of the Kzinti in that series. But still...
They also made cameos in some of the movies that were based on the original series...
I'm a (formerly) VERY avid Trek fan, having seen all the movies multiple times (especially those based on TOS characters), and I don't ever recall seeing a Kzin or heavily Kzin-like character in any of the films, unless it was a very bit part and it went right by me (unlikely, but certainly possible). If anyone can point out the film and time index of this appearance(s), or at least the specific scene in which it occured, I'd greatly appreciate it. And remember -- webbed ears, ratlike tail; not just any feline humanoid species will suffice.:)
How is a flat tax and a near-dismantling of the Internal Revenue Service a "looney idea"? I don't care about his motives, only the idea itself. Really, the only debate on that one should be the amount of the tax itself, to keep the lower-class from paying more than what they are now. Please elaborate on how this would be "looney".
For those not informed, Star Fleet Battles was based on the original Star Trek series (with some changes . ..)
Such as the inclusion of the cat-like Kzin from Larry Niven's 'Known Space', among other decidedly non-Trek items. I can deal with minor techno-babble inconsistancies, that's par for the course (and rather entertaining in its own right), but something like introducing a race from a completely unrelated fictional universe always seemed absurd to me. Don't get me wrong, I like the Kzin, even read three Man-Kzin Wars novels, but I still have to wonder... why?
While I agree with the rest of your post, please make a distinction between U.S. citizens and its government, they are not one in the same, and there are a great many (myself included) who strongly disagree with many of the egregious actions taken by our current administration. There's quite a diversity of opinion and often sharp disagreement in this country, please don't lump us all into a single group.
...which intentionally cripples GPS accuracy for commercial uses...
Quite simple reason for that: Anything that's available for commercial use (especially radio waves from satellites) is potentially available for use by an enemy. You shouldn't need to let that idea bake for too long before understanding why the U.S. intentionally crippled its own GPS for commercial use, and wanted the ability to jam it on demand. Kinda dumb to allow an unfriendly nuclear-armed nation, eg. North Korea*, to use GPS to guide missiles against the U.S. or its allies. I've no doubt that the EU has taken similar precautions with the Galileo satellites as well.
*Note: That is nothing against the people of N.K., I'm speaking specifically of those currently in its top-level leadership.
You're right about the admin privileges, of course. It is damn near impossible to get any real work done in XP without admin or power user privs. However, 3rd-party software developers are (mostly) to blame for that sorry state. There are many, many rants all over/. about top-tier games (among many other apps) from major publishers that simply will not even install without admin rights, and that practice will only continue to make limited/restricted user access on XP all but pointless. While Microsoft have failed miserably to discourage this practice on the part of 3rd-party devs, those 3rd-party devs must also be held accountable for their software's requirements.
Of course IE is a gigantic security hole that should never have been tied into the OS itself. I never suggested otherwise. That is 100% Microsoft's fault. No argument there. (My recommendation to those who seem to get a lot of viruses is, as always, "use Firefox".)
Having said that...
The truth is, Microsoft Windows XP is responsible.
Again, not entirely. That's like saying that every time there's an automobile accident, it's the car's fault. Clearly that's not true. Barring a malfunction or defect causing the crash, it is a fault of one of the drivers involved. it's the responsibility of all drivers to keep their cars on the road, in the proper lane, and avoid collisions, and generally use common sense. If there's a defect in my car's electrical system that makes the car prone to catching fire, that's the manufacturer's fault. If I'm fiddling with the stereo while yapping on my cell and subsequently wrap my car around a phone pole or collide with another vehicle, that's MY fault.
sigh. This argument gets old, so I'll sum it up by saying that not everyone places the security of their home PC at the very top of their priorities list. (Oh no, shocking!) There are no 'classified secrets' on my system, nor data that must be 'locked-down'. I have unneeded system services disabled, email auto-preview disabled, and a few other small but very helpful measures taken. Sure, it's not bullet-proof, but it doesn't need to be, not for playing games, writing fiction, and doing the occasional hobbyist programming. Personally, I'll take my chances, if only because it's the OS I'm familiar with, not that it's necessarily the best -- I just know how to make a few tweaks to tighten up the leaks and avoid most major (non-hardware) problems.
Again, just my two cents, and your mileage may certainly vary.
How is that an ostrich argument? I do much the same as GP, with the exception of the ZoneAlarm firewall (love it, never going back to MS' built-in firewall), and I use Firefox not because it's safer -- the extra security's a nice bonus -- but because, IMO, it's simply much better than IE in terms of functionality and reliability. I don't run AV software because, as mostly everyone here knows, it bogs the system down to being nearly useless for anything beyond surfing and email (I play and program 3D games as hobbies, which AV software makes a frustrating experience). I don't catch spyware or viruses because, quite simply, I don't click every Shiny Widget(tm) that flashes before me. I've had this XP installation for nearly two years, and it's never been hosed. Yes, I download a lot of stuff (new LPB!), I simply think before I click.
Disclaimer: I'm not a MS apologist, I use Windows because that's where my apps of choice are at, and I'm familiar with XP so there's no learning curve for me. I have nothing against OSS (hello? Firefox?), nor any non-MS OS -- that's simply a matter of preference. I'm just saying that the OS is not (entirely) to blame when someone catches a new virus every five minutes; clearly, the user is doing something very wrong.
Sorry, but you're waaay late in the game there -- Blizzard hardly even comes close to inventing the idea. In P&P RPGs, Marvel Superheroes et al had Reputation (or Popularity or other close-enough synonym) as far back as the late 80's, so this is hardly a new concept in RPGs, generally speaking.
And where is the documentation on the Linux box for how and why to setup multiple partitions for your linux install?
Nevermind that some Linux distro's don't come in a box (ISO downloads/torrents), but how is parent a Troll? Why is it perfectly to ask a question for one side, but wrong to do so for the other? Mind you, I'm not defending either side here, I'm talking about hypocrisy, something that by its very nature should be vigorously attacked whenever it rears its ugly head.
It's not right to hold opposing sides up to different standards. If one does so, and believes that to be acceptable, then one must admit that the comparison is really apples and oranges after all -- they're not the same. And if that's the case, then maybe they're not really in direct competition at all (regardless of anything Bill babbles on about). Maybe there really is room for both, as they suit different users' various needs.
I'm not sayin' that's true, I'm just sayin'... Something to think about.
No, actually Firefox 1.5 has treated me quite well so far (plugin issues not withstanding). Was more a case of "I don' nee' no steenkin' Preview button!" syndrome biting me on the ass. In other words, Entirely My Own Stupid Fault.
Props to parent for hitting the nail on the head. If trees are "the problem" they why the hell is it so much cooler in the countryside than in the city, or even a large town, where it is noticably much warmer? I've noticed this for decades, and have long just assumed it was the concrete and asphalt covering everything in urban areas. The ground can't dissipate heat nearly as well through that stuff. No doubt someone here has more knowledge on the subject than me (geologists?), so feel free to chime in here.
If you're only using P2P to "steal" music, or for w4r3z, I say fuck off: you're tainting a legitimate utility. If you're dumb enough to want to listen to the shit they call music or movies nowadays, you're dumb enough to go out and pay for it. Get off the Internet and stop wasting our bandwidth, you parasitic roaches.
Personal taste not withstanding (and judging from your comments, you seem quite intolerant of any personal preference that disagrees with your own), I guess it would surpise the hell out of you to learn that I've actually purchased DVDs of movies I'd previously downloaded, simply because I liked them... "Spiderman", "Underworld", etc. I also know quite a few others who've done the same, both personally (IRL, ie. siblings, personal friends) and online.
So much for the notion that every download is money "stolen" from the *AA. While I do agree that those who only download copyrighted material are contributing to the problem, berating those people only ignores the underlying problem of an utterly broken copyright system.
...and not even a single new artist has interested me in some years.
Sounds like you've decided to take the stale old "nothing new can possibly be good, only the old stuff is worth anything" approach that is so typical of those who are resistant to pretty much all change. I'm not much younger than you (just hit 34 in October). Almost 40? Big Frickin' Deal, that's not so old. Yeah, I too still love some older music and movies (classic rock, for ex.), but that doesn't automatically mean "new = crap". Yes, there is some new stuff that I would describe as crap, but there's also some great new music -- just bought Corrosion of Conformity's latest, and I dare say the forefathers of metal (Zep, Sabbath) would be proud. And movies: You're old enough to recall the classic Spiderman comics, and can probably attest to how faithful the movie was to the original story... unless, of course, comics are too "low-brow" for you. Seems to me you've let yourself become a stereotypical Grumpy Old Bastard long before your time.
PS: Roaches are not parasites, they are scavengers.
Not at all. Read back to what Anne Honime(828246) said:
Basically, the author can't give away the [monetary, ie. distribution] rights of the 2nd category, therefore anytime in the future, he can forbid any exploitation of his work without justification, provided he pays back the holders of other kinds of money-worth rights for the damage they face after that decision.
Emphasis mine. So, for the original author to change their mind after agreeing to distribution, he must pay the distribitor for losses that result from that decision. It's nowhere near as arbitrary as you paint it. This structure protects the author's rights but does't allow them to cause severe economic harm to a distributor by changing their mind on a whim -- otherwise, such a thing could be abused to intentionally harm a distributor they don't like by setting them up (think guerilla tactics).
My kingdom for a mod point. Thank you for a reasoned, articulate commentary on this volatile topic. Especially:
...the atheist believes in basic principles of science, which fundamentalists frequently deny. However, that comparison doesn't always hold true when you compare rational athiests versus rational believers. There is room to believe in the existence of a God without falling into the trap of believing in superstitions and mysticism.
Very well said.
There are people who are afraid that they (and their successors) will loose their current power if American Children are well educated on scientific topics.
If they want the U.S. to keep the power it has, then those people had better realise how much more harm they are doing than good. The world as a whole is experiencing technological and scientific progress at an astonishing rate, and those who think the U.S. can keep its position of economic strength by creating future generations who are ignorant of knowledge and understanding -- and are, indeed, incapable of truly learning after being psychologically conditioned by formal education -- are contributing to our doom. Our public education system (really a mental conditioning system in disguise) does not teach kids how to think; it teaches them what to think, and punishes them for arguing against established dogma -- whatever that may be at the moment -- and for not regurgitating the accepted answers.
Quite correct. The Control Panel GUI is rendered by MSHTML.DLL, and is intended as an easy-access interface for the average end-user, but it's not the only way to access the Windows Control Panel applets. All that's needed to access those are a command-line interface and RUNDLL32.EXE. In fact, you can bypass CONTROL.EXE entirely by simply entering the *.cpl applet's name (sysdm.cpl, desk.cpl, etc.) in the command line, which in turn recognizes the file type (by extension) and invokes RUNDLL32.EXE, passing the *.cpl name as an argument, to execute the code contained in the CPL applet. In fact I'm wondering why they even keep CONTROL.EXE around anymore...
Unfortunatly (or perhaps fortunatly) it IS still a Microsoft world, and many people don't know other browsers exist. [If] you come across a website/company that doesn't utilize a browser, let them know, it does work.
Aw c'mon, someone mod parent up if only to get that message out. Really, if no one complains or offers constructive critisism to these institutions, they won't know that some of their customers want other options. Y'know, squeaky wheel gets the grease, and all that.
Hey mods, throw parent a bone here, eh? Get the word out.
Maybe they could build tank armor out of the stuff that would be lighter or more effective than heavy steel...
Or better yet, use this material as a secondary (tertiary?) armor layer beneath the ablative-reactive armor deployed on most M1 tanks, perhaps beneath the conventional steel of the tank's hull, thus affording greater protection for the crew (arguably the greatest asset of the tank).
I will have some more worthy sources for you by the end of the night.
Please do! I live in rural Pennsylvania, where there are a lot of hunters. I don't myself hunt, but having grown up in the area, well let's just say I'm intrigued by the premise of a standard hunter's arrow penetrating the armor of even a light military vehicle.
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The fact that "extortion" won't be a factor in the case?
Say, that's a nice patent ya got there. Shame if something were to... happen to it.
You're right of course about the animated series, I'd forgotten all about that - never saw it, but read about it and of the appearance of the Kzinti in that series. But still...
:)
They also made cameos in some of the movies that were based on the original series...
I'm a (formerly) VERY avid Trek fan, having seen all the movies multiple times (especially those based on TOS characters), and I don't ever recall seeing a Kzin or heavily Kzin-like character in any of the films, unless it was a very bit part and it went right by me (unlikely, but certainly possible). If anyone can point out the film and time index of this appearance(s), or at least the specific scene in which it occured, I'd greatly appreciate it. And remember -- webbed ears, ratlike tail; not just any feline humanoid species will suffice.
Thanks in advance.
How is a flat tax and a near-dismantling of the Internal Revenue Service a "looney idea"? I don't care about his motives, only the idea itself. Really, the only debate on that one should be the amount of the tax itself, to keep the lower-class from paying more than what they are now. Please elaborate on how this would be "looney".
Thanks in advance.
That's very interesting, but it begs the question...
...WTF did you just say?!
Speaking of the original board game...
.)
For those not informed, Star Fleet Battles was based on the original Star Trek series (with some changes . .
Such as the inclusion of the cat-like Kzin from Larry Niven's 'Known Space', among other decidedly non-Trek items. I can deal with minor techno-babble inconsistancies, that's par for the course (and rather entertaining in its own right), but something like introducing a race from a completely unrelated fictional universe always seemed absurd to me. Don't get me wrong, I like the Kzin, even read three Man-Kzin Wars novels, but I still have to wonder... why?
Sorry, end of rant.
Very insightful cut-through-the-BS post. And...
Competition does not hurt, the lack of it does.
That sums up the whole issue quite nicely. Thanks.
While I agree with the rest of your post, please make a distinction between U.S. citizens and its government, they are not one in the same, and there are a great many (myself included) who strongly disagree with many of the egregious actions taken by our current administration. There's quite a diversity of opinion and often sharp disagreement in this country, please don't lump us all into a single group.
That's all I'm asking. Thanks.
...which intentionally cripples GPS accuracy for commercial uses...
Quite simple reason for that: Anything that's available for commercial use (especially radio waves from satellites) is potentially available for use by an enemy. You shouldn't need to let that idea bake for too long before understanding why the U.S. intentionally crippled its own GPS for commercial use, and wanted the ability to jam it on demand. Kinda dumb to allow an unfriendly nuclear-armed nation, eg. North Korea*, to use GPS to guide missiles against the U.S. or its allies. I've no doubt that the EU has taken similar precautions with the Galileo satellites as well.
*Note: That is nothing against the people of N.K., I'm speaking specifically of those currently in its top-level leadership.
You're right about the admin privileges, of course. It is damn near impossible to get any real work done in XP without admin or power user privs. However, 3rd-party software developers are (mostly) to blame for that sorry state. There are many, many rants all over /. about top-tier games (among many other apps) from major publishers that simply will not even install without admin rights, and that practice will only continue to make limited/restricted user access on XP all but pointless. While Microsoft have failed miserably to discourage this practice on the part of 3rd-party devs, those 3rd-party devs must also be held accountable for their software's requirements.
Of course IE is a gigantic security hole that should never have been tied into the OS itself. I never suggested otherwise. That is 100% Microsoft's fault. No argument there. (My recommendation to those who seem to get a lot of viruses is, as always, "use Firefox".)
Having said that...
The truth is, Microsoft Windows XP is responsible.
Again, not entirely. That's like saying that every time there's an automobile accident, it's the car's fault. Clearly that's not true. Barring a malfunction or defect causing the crash, it is a fault of one of the drivers involved. it's the responsibility of all drivers to keep their cars on the road, in the proper lane, and avoid collisions, and generally use common sense. If there's a defect in my car's electrical system that makes the car prone to catching fire, that's the manufacturer's fault. If I'm fiddling with the stereo while yapping on my cell and subsequently wrap my car around a phone pole or collide with another vehicle, that's MY fault.
sigh. This argument gets old, so I'll sum it up by saying that not everyone places the security of their home PC at the very top of their priorities list. (Oh no, shocking!) There are no 'classified secrets' on my system, nor data that must be 'locked-down'. I have unneeded system services disabled, email auto-preview disabled, and a few other small but very helpful measures taken. Sure, it's not bullet-proof, but it doesn't need to be, not for playing games, writing fiction, and doing the occasional hobbyist programming. Personally, I'll take my chances, if only because it's the OS I'm familiar with, not that it's necessarily the best -- I just know how to make a few tweaks to tighten up the leaks and avoid most major (non-hardware) problems.
Again, just my two cents, and your mileage may certainly vary.
How is that an ostrich argument? I do much the same as GP, with the exception of the ZoneAlarm firewall (love it, never going back to MS' built-in firewall), and I use Firefox not because it's safer -- the extra security's a nice bonus -- but because, IMO, it's simply much better than IE in terms of functionality and reliability. I don't run AV software because, as mostly everyone here knows, it bogs the system down to being nearly useless for anything beyond surfing and email (I play and program 3D games as hobbies, which AV software makes a frustrating experience). I don't catch spyware or viruses because, quite simply, I don't click every Shiny Widget(tm) that flashes before me. I've had this XP installation for nearly two years, and it's never been hosed. Yes, I download a lot of stuff (new LPB!), I simply think before I click.
Disclaimer: I'm not a MS apologist, I use Windows because that's where my apps of choice are at, and I'm familiar with XP so there's no learning curve for me. I have nothing against OSS (hello? Firefox?), nor any non-MS OS -- that's simply a matter of preference. I'm just saying that the OS is not (entirely) to blame when someone catches a new virus every five minutes; clearly, the user is doing something very wrong.
Just my two cents.
Sorry, but you're waaay late in the game there -- Blizzard hardly even comes close to inventing the idea. In P&P RPGs, Marvel Superheroes et al had Reputation (or Popularity or other close-enough synonym) as far back as the late 80's, so this is hardly a new concept in RPGs, generally speaking.
And where is the documentation on the Linux box for how and why to setup multiple partitions for your linux install?
Nevermind that some Linux distro's don't come in a box (ISO downloads/torrents), but how is parent a Troll? Why is it perfectly to ask a question for one side, but wrong to do so for the other? Mind you, I'm not defending either side here, I'm talking about hypocrisy, something that by its very nature should be vigorously attacked whenever it rears its ugly head.
It's not right to hold opposing sides up to different standards. If one does so, and believes that to be acceptable, then one must admit that the comparison is really apples and oranges after all -- they're not the same. And if that's the case, then maybe they're not really in direct competition at all (regardless of anything Bill babbles on about). Maybe there really is room for both, as they suit different users' various needs.
I'm not sayin' that's true, I'm just sayin'... Something to think about.
Wow. Hey, they got these new things now. They're called "sentences".
Score:-1, Illiterate
No, actually Firefox 1.5 has treated me quite well so far (plugin issues not withstanding). Was more a case of "I don' nee' no steenkin' Preview button!" syndrome biting me on the ass. In other words, Entirely My Own Stupid Fault.
Crap, wrong copy-pasted quote at the top, but you get my point. I'll shuddup now... :/
You can't click on any of the ads. What's the point? Or am I missing something here?
Score:-1, Legally Blind
Yes, the URL is in the article, just not as a link - you'd have to copy/paste into your address bar, but it's there. Quote:
"He had the brainstorm for his million dollar home page, called, logically enough, www.milliondollarhomepage.com..."
Now go play in the street. Follow the sound of the bouncing ball...
Props to parent for hitting the nail on the head. If trees are "the problem" they why the hell is it so much cooler in the countryside than in the city, or even a large town, where it is noticably much warmer? I've noticed this for decades, and have long just assumed it was the concrete and asphalt covering everything in urban areas. The ground can't dissipate heat nearly as well through that stuff. No doubt someone here has more knowledge on the subject than me (geologists?), so feel free to chime in here.
I find this article rather dubious.
If you're only using P2P to "steal" music, or for w4r3z, I say fuck off: you're tainting a legitimate utility. If you're dumb enough to want to listen to the shit they call music or movies nowadays, you're dumb enough to go out and pay for it. Get off the Internet and stop wasting our bandwidth, you parasitic roaches.
...and not even a single new artist has interested me in some years.
Personal taste not withstanding (and judging from your comments, you seem quite intolerant of any personal preference that disagrees with your own), I guess it would surpise the hell out of you to learn that I've actually purchased DVDs of movies I'd previously downloaded, simply because I liked them... "Spiderman", "Underworld", etc. I also know quite a few others who've done the same, both personally (IRL, ie. siblings, personal friends) and online.
So much for the notion that every download is money "stolen" from the *AA. While I do agree that those who only download copyrighted material are contributing to the problem, berating those people only ignores the underlying problem of an utterly broken copyright system.
Sounds like you've decided to take the stale old "nothing new can possibly be good, only the old stuff is worth anything" approach that is so typical of those who are resistant to pretty much all change. I'm not much younger than you (just hit 34 in October). Almost 40? Big Frickin' Deal, that's not so old. Yeah, I too still love some older music and movies (classic rock, for ex.), but that doesn't automatically mean "new = crap". Yes, there is some new stuff that I would describe as crap, but there's also some great new music -- just bought Corrosion of Conformity's latest, and I dare say the forefathers of metal (Zep, Sabbath) would be proud. And movies: You're old enough to recall the classic Spiderman comics, and can probably attest to how faithful the movie was to the original story... unless, of course, comics are too "low-brow" for you. Seems to me you've let yourself become a stereotypical Grumpy Old Bastard long before your time.
PS: Roaches are not parasites, they are scavengers.
If only I had a mod point... yes, even for an AC. Damn, that's funny. :)
Not at all. Read back to what Anne Honime(828246) said:
Basically, the author can't give away the [monetary, ie. distribution] rights of the 2nd category, therefore anytime in the future, he can forbid any exploitation of his work without justification, provided he pays back the holders of other kinds of money-worth rights for the damage they face after that decision.
Emphasis mine. So, for the original author to change their mind after agreeing to distribution, he must pay the distribitor for losses that result from that decision. It's nowhere near as arbitrary as you paint it. This structure protects the author's rights but does't allow them to cause severe economic harm to a distributor by changing their mind on a whim -- otherwise, such a thing could be abused to intentionally harm a distributor they don't like by setting them up (think guerilla tactics).
My kingdom for a mod point. Thank you for a reasoned, articulate commentary on this volatile topic. Especially:
...the atheist believes in basic principles of science, which fundamentalists frequently deny. However, that comparison doesn't always hold true when you compare rational athiests versus rational believers. There is room to believe in the existence of a God without falling into the trap of believing in superstitions and mysticism.
Very well said.
There are people who are afraid that they (and their successors) will loose their current power if American Children are well educated on scientific topics.
If they want the U.S. to keep the power it has, then those people had better realise how much more harm they are doing than good. The world as a whole is experiencing technological and scientific progress at an astonishing rate, and those who think the U.S. can keep its position of economic strength by creating future generations who are ignorant of knowledge and understanding -- and are, indeed, incapable of truly learning after being psychologically conditioned by formal education -- are contributing to our doom. Our public education system (really a mental conditioning system in disguise) does not teach kids how to think; it teaches them what to think, and punishes them for arguing against established dogma -- whatever that may be at the moment -- and for not regurgitating the accepted answers.
You sure about that? Try running cmd.exe...
Quite correct. The Control Panel GUI is rendered by MSHTML.DLL, and is intended as an easy-access interface for the average end-user, but it's not the only way to access the Windows Control Panel applets. All that's needed to access those are a command-line interface and RUNDLL32.EXE. In fact, you can bypass CONTROL.EXE entirely by simply entering the *.cpl applet's name (sysdm.cpl, desk.cpl, etc.) in the command line, which in turn recognizes the file type (by extension) and invokes RUNDLL32.EXE, passing the *.cpl name as an argument, to execute the code contained in the CPL applet. In fact I'm wondering why they even keep CONTROL.EXE around anymore...
Unfortunatly (or perhaps fortunatly) it IS still a Microsoft world, and many people don't know other browsers exist. [If] you come across a website/company that doesn't utilize a browser, let them know, it does work.
Aw c'mon, someone mod parent up if only to get that message out. Really, if no one complains or offers constructive critisism to these institutions, they won't know that some of their customers want other options. Y'know, squeaky wheel gets the grease, and all that.
Hey mods, throw parent a bone here, eh? Get the word out.
Maybe they could build tank armor out of the stuff that would be lighter or more effective than heavy steel...
Or better yet, use this material as a secondary (tertiary?) armor layer beneath the ablative-reactive armor deployed on most M1 tanks, perhaps beneath the conventional steel of the tank's hull, thus affording greater protection for the crew (arguably the greatest asset of the tank).
Erm... just a thought.
I will have some more worthy sources for you by the end of the night.
Please do! I live in rural Pennsylvania, where there are a lot of hunters. I don't myself hunt, but having grown up in the area, well let's just say I'm intrigued by the premise of a standard hunter's arrow penetrating the armor of even a light military vehicle.