Possibily, but that's why you can either 1) configure it to not score those messages so high, or 2) use procmail/etc to avoid using SA for those mails altogether.
Don't expect software to work 100% as you want "out of the box" (or "off of the net" in this case.;))
I own a Toyota Prius, and love every minute of driving it. I have been promoting hybrids at work and came up with this list of URLs about the various mass-produced "green"/alternate fuel vehicles available today. There are also some other links associated with these cars (fuel efficiency guides, etc.) I know it's not a complete list, but it's a decent representation of what's out there. Here you go...:)
Well, your local Toyota dealer is on crack. You can most certainly take a test drive in a Prius -- heck, the test drive I took before buying a 2001 was over an hour. Let them copy my driver's license, then took it out through backroads, on the highway, all around. Placed an order the next day. Best car available today IMNSHO.
As for custom ordering, that was how they were doing it -- You would order the car with the options you wanted off of their website. You then goto your local dealer and finalize the order by giving them a deposit. 3-4 months later (they can't build them fast enough to keep up with demand), your car would come off a boat from Japan.
They've changed their policy in the last few months, you can now just go to a dealership and they'll have a number of cars on the lot that you can look at. For instance, here's a very Prius-friendly dealership in CA that currently has 23 Prius available on the lot:
At last check, if you want to buy one of their cars, and you're not in CA, they'll ship it anywhere in the US -- you pay them the price of the car and shipping, then pay sales tax to the state you live in.
As for a tax break, yes, there is the $2000 deduction. It would be nice if the $2000 credit would be available too (it's not clear from the IRS whether or not the credit is allowed since the vehicle power must be provided by non-gas for more than 50% of the time...)
There are many good sites with information on the Prius, here are a couple of good ones:
There seem to be many options available here for a and c. "no charge" does not mean "must cost money." What if I want to charge you by showing you an ad in a README?
What's the definition of "source code form"? Is distributing it as a tar file different that "source code form"? You can't compile a tar file. What about base-64 or rot-13 encoding? What if I distribute a script or binary that when it runs displays source code? I'd only be distributing a program which is not source code in and of itself.
The basics are to force computers to have copyright protection software on them, right? Which basically means that they're trying to force us to stop doing something that we might do.
Since when is something that you might do illegal? Isn't this essentially the same thing as thought police? "You were thinking about copying these CDs, but you didn't actually do it, and we're arresting you anyway." As much as I don't like things like the DMCA, it's based around things that you do being illegal, as it is with all of the other laws I can think of at the moment.
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This doesn't make sense -- don't attempt a query against server type X when the query is attempting to determine if the server is type X.
The open-relay checks are not made up of "bizarre malformed SMTP" commands. "HELO", "MAIL", "RCPT", "DATA", and "QUIT" are the only commands that one should be using to do relay checks. If a mail server gets into a tizzy with those, then it's a completely broken server since all other servers will be sending those commands.
As with the netcraft tests (ie: web servers unable to handle a "GET" request), it's not the fault of the person sending the request if the server is expected to know how to handle said requests.
I went to a college which was a heavily-UNIX-centric college (thankfully!) All of the CS classes were run using the standard UNIX systems on campus. Then in Senior year, they added some classes which were MS-only, and a majority of students in the class I was in got in an uproar. The argument from the administration was that we needed hands-on experience with what we'll find in the marketplace, which is mostly Windows-based machines. We thought this was a reasonable argument, but figured that the situation was more about the new computer lab that MS donated to the college.
I do agree that CS people specifically will likely continue to work on things that they started working on in college. I had never heard of UNIX before going to college, and I wouldn't use anything else by choice now.
I prefer the "learn the theory and then learn the syntax to do what you want," method of programming. The majority of an application is going to be the same whether it's on a PlayStation, running on UNIX, running on Windows, etc. There'll be some syntactic differences between programming languages, APIs, etc. If you understand the theory, the syntax should be easy.
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... since Intel basically already owned the Alpha chip, and the Alpha already outperforms the standard Intel chips, and the Alpha is already 64-bit, and already has software for it, and has a long proven track record, and had design plans going out many many years to make improvements to the design... Why is Intel spending so much time and money on this new chip which is already over budget and behind schedule?
You can get an Escalade 7850 for $550 or less, which is a single 64-bit card instead of the 4x Promise controllers. I don't know why there's a 20GB drive in there, maybe a boot drive? At $3k for 8 160GB drives, that's $375 each. Looking quickly at pricewatch, you can get the same Maxtor 160GB drives (5400RPM -- yuck!) for around $260 each. 8*160*(1000/1024) = 1250MB (actual MB) = 1.22 TB for a total of 550+8*260 = 2630 instead of 3580. Plus you have 3 PCI slots more than you had before.
I've had it with people saying "MAC Address". If you're doing NAT, you're going through a NAT gateway. It rewrites the packets going out to look like the gateway is the originator of the packets. It then reverses the process for incoming packets.
ARP (IP->MAC translation) occurs below IP and allows hosts on an Ethernet network to communicate. IP, TCP, UDP, etc, doesn't care about MAC addresses. Therefore NAT doesn't care about MAC addresses.
What? Do you have any idea how NAT actually works? The MAC address that the cable folks see will be the same no matter who sends the packet through the NAT box. NAT, from a strictly network sense, is invisible.
What they could do is look at things like headers from HTTP requests. If there are requests from the same cable subscriber using different browsers at the same/near same time... It's likely to be a NAT setup. (it could also be someone using different browsers to look at pages. I do this with Opera and IE; I use Opera most of the time, but there are a couple of bugs which make me switch to IE for certain sites...)
Think about it: why don't you use a Mac? You like the design, right? Then what is it that stops you from using it? It's the same thing that is only giving Apple a 4.5% market share.
My wife is stopping people from buying Apple computers?!?
Seriously, that's all that's stopping me from buying one of these things right now (I'm looking to get an iBook at the moment...) It runs the apps I tend to run (SSH, Quicken, Turbotax, Diablo 2, Age of Empires 2), is a nice notebook, gets me away from the hated Windows, and with OSX I can feel at home in a UNIX-y environment. The pretty hip look/feel of the box and OS are a plus too.
It's semi-related to price, but more of a question of "Will it really be useful to get one?" As computers go these days, the price is fairly competitive.
Part of the reason more people don't buy Apple right now is that, unfortunately, it's a Windows-domainated world. They're used to Windows, they know Windows will do what they want (even though pretty much *everyone* I know who uses it complains about how the OS isn't stable, they have various problems, etc,) and non-Windows may not be an option. For instance, at a company I once was at (I'm an IT monkey BTW,) we supported all the UNIX boxes and the Windows desktops, but the Macs were left up to the people who wanted to use them. The majority of people didn't want to deal with the hassle of self-support and went with Windows. Others formed their own psuedo-IT group for just the Mac folks.
I would have to agree to some degree. I'm a sysadmin who was a CS. Thankfully, I went to a very UNIX-centric college and the CS group was UNIX-centric as well.
However, I was pondering switching to MIS once I learned that I enjoyed being a sysadmin (oh the horror!;) ) The first couple of required classes were: Introduction to Computers (what a printer is, how to turn a computer on, what memory is, etc...), How to use Office, Intro to VB, and a handful of other truly craptastic MS-related courses. My belief is that if you can't learn to use Office (or similar product) on your own and need a class for it, you really have no place being a technologist. I very happily decided to stay CS and became an admin apprentice during summers.
This isn't to say that some of those MIS people aren't sharp, but I wouldn't trust most of them with admin duties. They're more MIS Manager-types than MIS-admin types.
I propose a network-based automatic backup system for most people. You simply have your main system automatically backup it's data over the network to another system
Since you mentioned the shared medium problem, remember that the network is a shared medium as well. Earlier this year, I nearly lost all of the machines I have at home due to a lightning strike. I saw a flash across my ceiling and had all of my systems go down hard. (yes, each system has a UPS and anything not on a UPS is on a good quality surge supressor.) The boxes wouldn't even power on after the storm had passed. After a day or two of troubleshooting, I found that the switch and all network cards had been fried. The network cards were keeping the system from powering on (ATX motherboard).
Don't blame Linux man... Phasers, transporters, and the warp core are all proprietary pieces of hardware provided by Starfleet Inc, and they don't make drivers for Linux.
However, I'm sure if you send a few samples to a kernel developer, they can get a driver submitted for 2.5.;)
I agree with most folks that this should have waited for 2.5, 2.4 should only be bug fixes at this point. That's why it's the *stable* kernel tree. Big huge changes (and replacing the VM system is defintately in this category) are not appropriate here.
I wonder what Rik has to say about the new "blessed" VM? If he thinks it's a better all-around VM, then the debate can stop pretty quickly I would think.
I think it'll be interesting when the handoff occurs. Will people have to deal with different VMs constantly during official releases? 2.4.0-2.4.9, a change in 2.4.10-2.4.13, and a change back for 2.4.14 and beyond?
I also wonder which way major distros will go (since most people don't deviate from those kernels.) RedHat, for instance, usually bases themselves on the AC kernel tree (surprise) and then additionally patch it a whole lot more. While others take the most recent blessed kernel and go with it straight. Should be interesting.
My overall view of this is simple though: Linus is God, in relation to the kernel, until he says otherwise. (to paraphrase Eric Raymond) If someone wants to maintain a patch against the now-blessed VM to revert to the previous behavior, fine. The decision has been made for the new VM though, let's continue on with things shall we?
The government has three problems with their idea to require backdoors:
1) The currently available, fairly unbreakable ciphers, are unsurprisingly already available. If criminals have access to these programs (gnupg, pgp, ssl/tls, etc,) then a requirement to have a backdoor is meaningless.
2) Foreign nations have learned about multiplication and software development. They could develop their own ciphers/software.
3) Even if the above 2 aren't true, there are books which legally can be distributed with printed source code for programs that implement the algorithms.
You can't close Pandora's box after it's been opened. All a "backdoor requirement" would do is limit the privacy rights of individuals.
I can always backup and reinstall or copy my files to a new partition.
Good for you. My server is located an hour from my house (and work), so getting over there to to the backup/format/restore shuffle is an annoying whole day event. ext3/tux2 lets me upgrade w/ a quick file edit and a reboot (all from remote). (one of these days, I'll convince myself to get a PC Weasel so I can try out new kernels as well...)
As for the "standard" business, I think pretty much everyone else summed it up. The kernel shouldn't care what FS is running, that's the VFS' job. I really hope that ext2 hard-codes have been removed from the rest of the kernel if they were there at all.
The current "standard" *is* ext2, because it's the FS that is available everywhere. I would think that ext3/tux2 becomes the next standard for compatibility reasons. However, nothing will stop you from using any of the other fses available (even included with the kernel), including reiserfs. It's like now, with a different set of file systems available.
I've used a gig. Nothing special. Just never swap, and buffers up the wazooo.
Well... it depends what you do. Where I work (in the EDA industry), most of our boxes are 2Gb, and we have a few 4Gb boxes, and that's not enough... We still swap like crazy for some jobs.
I unfortunately can't find more than 4Gb on UltraSparcs (our main platform) without going to a large server. 8(
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Possibily, but that's why you can either 1) configure it to not score those messages so high, or 2) use procmail/etc to avoid using SA for those mails altogether.
;))
Don't expect software to work 100% as you want "out of the box" (or "off of the net" in this case.
- http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/vehicles/prius/id
e x.html, Toyota Prius, currently available
- http://civichybrid.honda.com/, Honda Civic Hybrid, due out RSN, starting to be available for test drives
- http://www.hondacars.com/models/insight/index.htm
l , Honda Insight, currently available
- http://rav4ev.toyota.com/, Toyota RAV4 EV (it's not a hybrid, sorry), only available in CA currently
- http://uktoyotaestimasite.tripod.com/, Toyota Estima, hybrid minivan. Not currently scheduled for release in the US
- http://hybridford.com/, Ford Escape, SUV, planned to be available in 2003. Ford licensed the Toyota HEV system for this
There's a good amount of information available about clean vehicles at:As for custom ordering, that was how they were doing it -- You would order the car with the options you wanted off of their website. You then goto your local dealer and finalize the order by giving them a deposit. 3-4 months later (they can't build them fast enough to keep up with demand), your car would come off a boat from Japan.
They've changed their policy in the last few months, you can now just go to a dealership and they'll have a number of cars on the lot that you can look at. For instance, here's a very Prius-friendly dealership in CA that currently has 23 Prius available on the lot:
http://carsontoyota.com/priusorders.html
At last check, if you want to buy one of their cars, and you're not in CA, they'll ship it anywhere in the US -- you pay them the price of the car and shipping, then pay sales tax to the state you live in.
As for a tax break, yes, there is the $2000 deduction. It would be nice if the $2000 credit would be available too (it's not clear from the IRS whether or not the credit is allowed since the vehicle power must be provided by non-gas for more than 50% of the time...)
There are many good sites with information on the Prius, here are a couple of good ones:
The Toyota Prius Yahoo Group
The Prius homepage at Toyota
Statistical Information about my Prius, if you're interested
So the update reduces the installation to just an icon? Sweet. ;)
There seem to be many options available here for a and c. "no charge" does not mean "must cost money." What if I want to charge you by showing you an ad in a README?
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What's the definition of "source code form"? Is distributing it as a tar file different that "source code form"? You can't compile a tar file. What about base-64 or rot-13 encoding? What if I distribute a script or binary that when it runs displays source code? I'd only be distributing a program which is not source code in and of itself.
Just some thoughts
Since when is something that you might do illegal? Isn't this essentially the same thing as thought police? "You were thinking about copying these CDs, but you didn't actually do it, and we're arresting you anyway." As much as I don't like things like the DMCA, it's based around things that you do being illegal, as it is with all of the other laws I can think of at the moment.
The open-relay checks are not made up of "bizarre malformed SMTP" commands. "HELO", "MAIL", "RCPT", "DATA", and "QUIT" are the only commands that one should be using to do relay checks. If a mail server gets into a tizzy with those, then it's a completely broken server since all other servers will be sending those commands.
As with the netcraft tests (ie: web servers unable to handle a "GET" request), it's not the fault of the person sending the request if the server is expected to know how to handle said requests.
"Of course my password is the same as my pet's name.
My cat's name was Q47pY!3, but I change it every 90 days." - Roddy Vagg
I went to a college which was a heavily-UNIX-centric college (thankfully!) All of the CS classes were run using the standard UNIX systems on campus. Then in Senior year, they added some classes which were MS-only, and a majority of students in the class I was in got in an uproar. The argument from the administration was that we needed hands-on experience with what we'll find in the marketplace, which is mostly Windows-based machines. We thought this was a reasonable argument, but figured that the situation was more about the new computer lab that MS donated to the college.
I do agree that CS people specifically will likely continue to work on things that they started working on in college. I had never heard of UNIX before going to college, and I wouldn't use anything else by choice now.
I prefer the "learn the theory and then learn the syntax to do what you want," method of programming. The majority of an application is going to be the same whether it's on a PlayStation, running on UNIX, running on Windows, etc. There'll be some syntactic differences between programming languages, APIs, etc. If you understand the theory, the syntax should be easy.
I've never been able to figure that out.
Promise FastTrak 100TX2 * 4 $500
Maxtor DiamondMax 160GB Drive * 8 $3000
Maxtor DiamondMax 20GB Drive $80
You can get an Escalade 7850 for $550 or less, which is a single 64-bit card instead of the 4x Promise controllers. I don't know why there's a 20GB drive in there, maybe a boot drive? At $3k for 8 160GB drives, that's $375 each. Looking quickly at pricewatch, you can get the same Maxtor 160GB drives (5400RPM -- yuck!) for around $260 each. 8*160*(1000/1024) = 1250MB (actual MB) = 1.22 TB for a total of 550+8*260 = 2630 instead of 3580. Plus you have 3 PCI slots more than you had before.
If you look at the RFC for IP: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc791.html, and TCP: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc793.html, you'll notice that MAC address is not listed in either of these.
ARP (IP->MAC translation) occurs below IP and allows hosts on an Ethernet network to communicate. IP, TCP, UDP, etc, doesn't care about MAC addresses. Therefore NAT doesn't care about MAC addresses.
What they could do is look at things like headers from HTTP requests. If there are requests from the same cable subscriber using different browsers at the same/near same time ... It's likely to be a NAT setup. (it could also be someone using different browsers to look at pages. I do this with Opera and IE; I use Opera most of the time, but there are a couple of bugs which make me switch to IE for certain sites...)
My wife is stopping people from buying Apple computers?!?
Seriously, that's all that's stopping me from buying one of these things right now (I'm looking to get an iBook at the moment...) It runs the apps I tend to run (SSH, Quicken, Turbotax, Diablo 2, Age of Empires 2), is a nice notebook, gets me away from the hated Windows, and with OSX I can feel at home in a UNIX-y environment. The pretty hip look/feel of the box and OS are a plus too.
It's semi-related to price, but more of a question of "Will it really be useful to get one?" As computers go these days, the price is fairly competitive.
Part of the reason more people don't buy Apple right now is that, unfortunately, it's a Windows-domainated world. They're used to Windows, they know Windows will do what they want (even though pretty much *everyone* I know who uses it complains about how the OS isn't stable, they have various problems, etc,) and non-Windows may not be an option. For instance, at a company I once was at (I'm an IT monkey BTW,) we supported all the UNIX boxes and the Windows desktops, but the Macs were left up to the people who wanted to use them. The majority of people didn't want to deal with the hassle of self-support and went with Windows. Others formed their own psuedo-IT group for just the Mac folks.
However, I was pondering switching to MIS once I learned that I enjoyed being a sysadmin (oh the horror! ;) ) The first couple of required classes were: Introduction to Computers (what a printer is, how to turn a computer on, what memory is, etc...), How to use Office, Intro to VB, and a handful of other truly craptastic MS-related courses. My belief is that if you can't learn to use Office (or similar product) on your own and need a class for it, you really have no place being a technologist. I very happily decided to stay CS and became an admin apprentice during summers.
This isn't to say that some of those MIS people aren't sharp, but I wouldn't trust most of them with admin duties. They're more MIS Manager-types than MIS-admin types.
Since you mentioned the shared medium problem, remember that the network is a shared medium as well. Earlier this year, I nearly lost all of the machines I have at home due to a lightning strike. I saw a flash across my ceiling and had all of my systems go down hard. (yes, each system has a UPS and anything not on a UPS is on a good quality surge supressor.) The boxes wouldn't even power on after the storm had passed. After a day or two of troubleshooting, I found that the switch and all network cards had been fried. The network cards were keeping the system from powering on (ATX motherboard).
Don't blame Linux man ... Phasers, transporters, and the warp core are all proprietary pieces of hardware provided by Starfleet Inc, and they don't make drivers for Linux.
;)
However, I'm sure if you send a few samples to a kernel developer, they can get a driver submitted for 2.5.
I agree with most folks that this should have waited for 2.5, 2.4 should only be bug fixes at this point. That's why it's the *stable* kernel tree. Big huge changes (and replacing the VM system is defintately in this category) are not appropriate here.
I wonder what Rik has to say about the new "blessed" VM? If he thinks it's a better all-around VM, then the debate can stop pretty quickly I would think.
I think it'll be interesting when the handoff occurs. Will people have to deal with different VMs constantly during official releases? 2.4.0-2.4.9, a change in 2.4.10-2.4.13, and a change back for 2.4.14 and beyond?
I also wonder which way major distros will go (since most people don't deviate from those kernels.) RedHat, for instance, usually bases themselves on the AC kernel tree (surprise) and then additionally patch it a whole lot more. While others take the most recent blessed kernel and go with it straight. Should be interesting.
My overall view of this is simple though: Linus is God, in relation to the kernel, until he says otherwise. (to paraphrase Eric Raymond) If someone wants to maintain a patch against the now-blessed VM to revert to the previous behavior, fine. The decision has been made for the new VM though, let's continue on with things shall we?
The government has three problems with their idea to require backdoors:
1) The currently available, fairly unbreakable ciphers, are unsurprisingly already available. If criminals have access to these programs (gnupg, pgp, ssl/tls, etc,) then a requirement to have a backdoor is meaningless.
2) Foreign nations have learned about multiplication and software development. They could develop their own ciphers/software.
3) Even if the above 2 aren't true, there are books which legally can be distributed with printed source code for programs that implement the algorithms.
You can't close Pandora's box after it's been opened. All a "backdoor requirement" would do is limit the privacy rights of individuals.
Good for you. My server is located an hour from my house (and work), so getting over there to to the backup/format/restore shuffle is an annoying whole day event. ext3/tux2 lets me upgrade w/ a quick file edit and a reboot (all from remote). (one of these days, I'll convince myself to get a PC Weasel so I can try out new kernels as well...)
As for the "standard" business, I think pretty much everyone else summed it up. The kernel shouldn't care what FS is running, that's the VFS' job. I really hope that ext2 hard-codes have been removed from the rest of the kernel if they were there at all.
The current "standard" *is* ext2, because it's the FS that is available everywhere. I would think that ext3/tux2 becomes the next standard for compatibility reasons. However, nothing will stop you from using any of the other fses available (even included with the kernel), including reiserfs. It's like now, with a different set of file systems available.
That would depend on the price. From Cobalt I could expect to pay X for an appliance. From Sun, it'll probably be 3X.
Be careful, GWB hasn't announced a running-mate yet ...
As you said, see www.colltech.com for more information.
So does anyone know if EIS is planning to do binary-only releases, or might source be available at some point?
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I wouldn't mind lending a hand in porting the beastie to *nix
A GPL'd release would be cool too, but I won't hold my breath yet.
Well ... it depends what you do. Where I work (in the EDA industry), most of our boxes are 2Gb, and we have a few 4Gb boxes, and that's not enough... We still swap like crazy for some jobs.
I unfortunately can't find more than 4Gb on UltraSparcs (our main platform) without going to a large server. 8(