If your interested in this have a look at quite a few other plans in the works, many not so far off (2004 and beyond) for new telescopes looking for extra-solar planets and such.
Not exactly true, well cable may be an oligopoly, but "broadband" isn't. ADSL you have a few players, although it can be hard to distinguish them, as with the exception of telstra (and aapt i think) most lease their infrastructure from someone else. Their are three main providers (wholesale that is!) here in Sydney, Telstra, XYZ, and AAPT (sorry not 100% on that one, heh and i resell the thing too!:]). They all resell to your ISP (whoever that may be).
Then you have satellite, Telstra provides that, as does iHug. Of course thats really only, semi-broadband.:)
So that's, almost seven options there available to most people down-under.
Unfortunatly as is always the case, it varies depending where you are, example, XYZ is as i understand capital cities (CBD / surrounding areas) only. So 30-50% of the population doesnt have much choice, (except for satellite..) but thats how it always is isnt it..
Your right, all *respectable* (and some not-so) Corporate Broadband providers here charge by the meg, and usually have minimum usage amounts.
Telstra Direct you looking at about $760 / Month for 1.5Mb ADSL, that includes around 4gig traffic, (at 16.2c / meg i think). Connect.com.au is slightly cheaper (about $100 / month), and their network is *actually* reliable.:) Telstra unfortunatly for adsl is all (obviously) on the same infrastructure as the Home (Bigpond Advance) broadband. That IMO is the worst done network in history!:( But who's to complain when its working you get 160k/sec sustained just about anywhere!
BTW, When talking ADSL, there are not just two players Optus doesnt actually do adsl, but when talking about infrastructure you have Telstra, XYZ, and AAPT (i think?). XYZ only re-sells to isp's, but if your interested DONT goto Bigpond or anyone who uses their network (such as iPrimus) that is if you like some sort of reliability. Because all the home users get all the bad side of the (already bad) network!
I think you seemed to answer your own question there, Russia like you said has a rich history and culure, although I would argue it was by no means damaged by the likes of Lenin and Marx, (btw Karl Marx may have been the visionary of something that turned out not so good, ie communism, but he was a brilliant man neverless.)
What reason too read Russian SF? Well why to you read English sci-fi? For the story! Not for the damned cultural background!:) Unfortunatly the language-barrier is as always so very big, but im sure Russia has GREAT writers, perhaps as many as say the UK or US. (Wild guess there, sorry)
Personally I find i cant find enough sci-fi that i truley like, i can be very picky.:( So a broader base of material, is a Damn Good Thing to me!
Okay, besides the fact this is going back so far and is unlikely to be seen, i feel i must make my point.:) (even if just to myself!)
Firstly i'll state I am first generation Australian. Not that that really matters, because i am absolutly disgusted with Australia especially the similar sort of nationalistic / isolationist policies it has apparently in common with the US. Before you say it, yes if ecomnomic times were better i would emigrate!:)
But onto the point, you called me a 'Nationalist' i cant understand at all where you got that from, (bad guess?) I am in fact the exact opposite, a Liberalist. And i strongly disagree with your view that "no one is a good neighbor in international politics", have you looked my at Europe for example? The European Union is far from a grouping of duplicitous bastards as you put it. Im not for a second saying they are perfect friendly peace-loving neighbours, but they are a damn sight better than a hundred years ago, or even fifty or twenty years ago!
Its only people who see they world in the way that you seem too that gives us all the trouble with such International Treaties. If you expect and project back-stabbing and lying, well thats *all you will get*. For everyone else, well they too will get what they _want_ from it.
A side note, i am an optimist, i see the world as what it could be, i also see in the next half century the world will change many ways, one being if the US continues its borderline isolationism then, it will get that in return. But to compensate, a future European Union, with 500Million+ inhabitants, will do a far better job competing head-to-head with the US, than any individual nation before it. Kyoto is a perfect example of that, the world is changing, Govt's all over are seeing, if the US doesnt want to play, we can go with you! (And fuck Australia if we just want to be your lap-dog! [sigh])
Can you think of the reason why it is as you say, that bands only make money from touring?
Could it be like it was said by Courtney and others, that the fact is TOURING is the only thing that the record label doesnt completly own! In other words, with the system like it is, that's all they have left! And that's one of the problems.
You can't really say that at $19.90 (or AU$35, shit i dont know dont by that crap!) CD's dont make any money?
So what, because she made millions herself she's now _not allowed_ to complain that she was _ripped off_ tens or hundreds of millions?!?!
What kind of doubble standard is this? So only poor musicians should be out there complaining?
Oh please!
What she did with her money has got absolutly nothing to do with what she talks about and now fights for. As well the fact that if she's now as you say "unpopular" does not detract from the point she's making. Who cares if she's really just "trying to make a quick buck", that's capitalism for you! In no way what-so-ever does that diminish the real problem here.
Thats very true, i posted before about the value of TechNet, it is truley brilliant _most of the time_. There are occasions where it doesnt help too much, and i have experienced that exact Exchange problem. Unfortunatly that is one big document with a serious flaw. But after some other reading (inc non-ms sites), it wasnt too hard to find the real procedure.
Otherwise tho, ill say again, Technet is a brilliant source, probably 4/5 of those pesky event log errors you get on NT/2k/XP you can do a quick search for the number and find the cause AND solution!
This is one of those open-ended topics, each of us has their own way. Obviously you like the linux solution. Peronally I cant handle the linux desktop. I used to use it, actually my first linux-boxen was running Slackware in 94, since then i have always at least had one linux box around (actually not anymore, that machine runs OpenBSD now).
But my main point is here, given the choice of _anything_ at work i run Win2k on the desktop, and at home WinXP on my _main_ pc. The reason? I dont have time / patience anymore to tweak everylittle damn thing, or spend an hour setting up some hack to get xyz working. No time, and no patience, windows works for me, because i know how to _make_ it work (and that so often is overlooked) it runs Civ3, i can do my finances and it plays my DVD's, im happy, thats all i need.
When i needed to upgrade my Internet server / NAt box last year for Cable, i first used Redhat, then shortly after changed to BSD, because it fits the task perfectly!
Thats very true, and i have had similar experiences, both with Linux / BSD and to a far lesser extent NT. (Yes i had an NT server for one client with 460days uptime!)
The problem is, for example, say the something hardware goes wrong. Like you NIC starts broadcasting garbage because its faulty. That's not an easy problem to find in any operating system for an inexperienced sysadmin, thats where the vendor support comes in.
You cannot possibly expect that every sysadmin out there is an expert, its just not possible! But thats where those of us who are make our money. Im happy with that.:)
If you want to talk student level support, then its far easier! Technet there you have hundreds of thousands of pages of support for free, for EVERY MS product. All free, as in beer.
Incidentally that is the no.1 resource for anyone who supports MS software, and should _always_ be consulted before you even think of calling for support!
This article talked about myths and there are certainly a lot of them. I work in the WindowsNT/2000 world (disclaimer: although i have used Linux extensivly since 1994!) and MS support is as you say, efficient. And its true if you have some issue and you just want to call up MS and get them to fix it, its a per-incident charge, but one of the MYTHS is that you are paying to fix bugs! Wrong. If the incident is found to be a flaw in the software, the fee is REFUNDED.
I had that exact experience with a client roling out XP just last month. There was a bug, my client paid MS (AU$50 incidently for that trouble shooting) the problem was found to be a small bug, it was fixed, and the fee refunded. Client's very happy, and so am I.
But on that note, that is actually only the THIRD time i have ever had to contact Microsoft Support, in four years in my job. I would say 70% of the time i know the solutions (common probs), 20% of the time a Technet search solves the problem, 0.1% Call MS tech support. And the rest, its possible to work-around. Thats just my experenice, mainly with NT4, 2000, Exchange 5 -> 2000, etc..
Im not going to preach for Microsoft (well..), i hate them in a way very similar to the next un-informed/.er but I hate them for GOOD / real reasons!:)
If such studies show what you say, then care to explain why one particular country named The Netherlands (ala Amsterdam) has significantly LESS use of such drugs than even the United States. [link]
Also you may notice there some other facts such as the lower murder rate, and what i saw as the noticable level of ignorance of some American Politicians..:)
That $125M you mentioned saving could not quite have been saved had _NASA_ engineers used Metric, perhaps if the USA as a _whole_ converted to metric, then yes but, as your link states, the Imperial units were introduced by "Lockheed Martin", not NASA's JPL.
Who's fault that was well, i guess thats what those pesky congressional hearings are for.:)
(Disclaimer: I am not from the US. Sometimes it needs to be said)
It's good to hear some non-US centric views get some +1 mod's here, (as opposed to -1 flamebait) I agree almost completly with you, especially regarding international treaties. The US tends to do exactly what is good for the US, and _nothing_ more. Although I'll add thats completly understandable, (coming from a confessed arrogant bastard:]) but you cant have it both ways, no matter how big you are. In other words for example, you cant push for a free-open world economy, while raising your tarrifs because your farmers are protesting.
I think its almost on par with a course a friend of mine is doing here in Sydney Aus, titled: "Japanise Culture through Manga." Hah, yeah its basically an Arts course on Anime..
Sheash, and i sometimes wonder why i have such limited respect for Tertiary Education.:)
Am I the only one who noticed one key thing in all those Raid's? How the FBI got so far into the scene? Now its not like you can goto www.warez.com and find links to a DOD / Razor FTP site! The only way to get there is by TRADING. From that link, apparently certain sites were actually FED sites! Think about it, how many hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of software did the fed's trade to catch those few groups?:)
Regardless, this is not going to dent the warez scene at all, maybe a slight slow-down but it will be back bigger and better! Maybe more lame groups tho. But one thing, from now it will be much harder to catch them! A previous posters parallels with Drugs is appropriate, zero-tolerance policy doesnt work, as soon as you catch one big drug dealer another three take his place!
(Sorry almost Redundant, this i touched on in another reply, but i think its worth more thought)
Your quite wrong there i believe, as none of the 'big' groups busted, ie 'DOD' sold software. They crack it, trade it and so on, but they are not the ones down in Chinatown (local Sydney/Aus example) burning those to cd's and selling them for $5!
Okay i may be wrong now that's all based on my (relativly speaking) small warez scene exposure from years ago..
The whole point really there was the extent that worldwide law-enforment agencies went (not just the FBI) went to bust them.
From that info and what i would assume, the fed's had been infiltrating the sites for a long time, and the only way to get into the scene is to trade! Thats why if you look at those lists, _apparently_ there were a few FED (FBI / whatever) OPERATED WAREZ SITES! Now think about that for a second. Obviously they went all out in their attempts to infiltrate to the top, ie DOD, Razor, etc. I applaud them for that, at least you know they are doing their job well.;) (Of course we'll just have to ignore the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of software they probably traded!:)
One annoying thing i saw was my local respectable news paper (SMH.com.au) put a definate spin on the story, breaking from IMO their usual unbiased position. With the heading "Software pirates boast proves idle" with an excerpt: "[bandido DOD member] had boasted on the Internet that he would never be caught"
The funny thing is the article finnishes (quietly) with: "No arrests have been made."
Src: http://www.smh.com.au/news/0112/13/national/nation al16.html
Although any hype here is overrated, these busts are nothing like some of the Cracks/Warez party busts in Europe and the US back in the early 90's!:)
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The moon is in an orbit that as you said means we only see one side of it. Obviously since we see full-moon's / eclipses and all in between, that one side that we see does also see darkness.
But it is true that parts of the poles of the moon are almost eternally in the sunlight..
Im sorry i cant believe those prices? Now okay possibly you can get some cheaper drives on eBay but even still i was just recently looking at drive prices for a client and here's a comparison:
HP DLT 80Gig (40 native) = AU$4000
DLT Tapes = AU$150 / EACH
(For comparison)
HP DDS4 (20G Native) = AU$2300
DDS4 Tapes = $60 / Each..
Even after conversion to US$ ( AU$1 = US$0.50) thats way way out of im sure just about anyone's home backup solution price range!
But i completely agree with you, DLT is an Industrial strength backup solution, one I frequently recommend, but even DDS is far out of the price range for almost all home users..
I agree, personnally i have over 120GB of storage, mostly filled with stuff like mp3's and my video's etc, sure if my house burnt down it would suck, but i think a lot of other things lost to be worse than my music / pr0n collection.:)
I use an old DDS2 tape drive to backup my _data_, real data i mean like financial records, documents and the rest of the 600meg or so that is _actually_ important.:)
The rest of it, well i can get 90% of my mp3's back off my cd's or from friends who i have traded them with. Same with everything else really.
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If your interested in this have a look at quite a few other plans in the works, many not so far off (2004 and beyond) for new telescopes looking for extra-solar planets and such.
For example the Terrestrial Planet Finder (TPF) which although is currently un-funded, is targeted to launch around 2011.
More links and info.
These kinds of advancements make me happy to be alive now, and I look forward to 'seeing' the first "earth like" plannet!
Not exactly true, well cable may be an oligopoly, but "broadband" isn't. ADSL you have a few players, although it can be hard to distinguish them, as with the exception of telstra (and aapt i think) most lease their infrastructure from someone else. Their are three main providers (wholesale that is!) here in Sydney, Telstra, XYZ, and AAPT (sorry not 100% on that one, heh and i resell the thing too! :]). They all resell to your ISP (whoever that may be).
:)
Then you have satellite, Telstra provides that, as does iHug. Of course thats really only, semi-broadband.
So that's, almost seven options there available to most people down-under.
Unfortunatly as is always the case, it varies depending where you are, example, XYZ is as i understand capital cities (CBD / surrounding areas) only. So 30-50% of the population doesnt have much choice, (except for satellite..) but thats how it always is isnt it..
Err sorry, slight clarification, that Connect.com.au price should be 'about $100 / month LESS' than telstra.
:)
*hic*, merry christmas!
Your right, all *respectable* (and some not-so) Corporate Broadband providers here charge by the meg, and usually have minimum usage amounts.
:) Telstra unfortunatly for adsl is all (obviously) on the same infrastructure as the Home (Bigpond Advance) broadband. That IMO is the worst done network in history! :( But who's to complain when its working you get 160k/sec sustained just about anywhere!
Telstra Direct you looking at about $760 / Month for 1.5Mb ADSL, that includes around 4gig traffic, (at 16.2c / meg i think). Connect.com.au is slightly cheaper (about $100 / month), and their network is *actually* reliable.
BTW, When talking ADSL, there are not just two players Optus doesnt actually do adsl, but when talking about infrastructure you have Telstra, XYZ, and AAPT (i think?). XYZ only re-sells to isp's, but if your interested DONT goto Bigpond or anyone who uses their network (such as iPrimus) that is if you like some sort of reliability. Because all the home users get all the bad side of the (already bad) network!
I think you seemed to answer your own question there, Russia like you said has a rich history and culure, although I would argue it was by no means damaged by the likes of Lenin and Marx, (btw Karl Marx may have been the visionary of something that turned out not so good, ie communism, but he was a brilliant man neverless.)
:) Unfortunatly the language-barrier is as always so very big, but im sure Russia has GREAT writers, perhaps as many as say the UK or US. (Wild guess there, sorry)
:( So a broader base of material, is a Damn Good Thing to me!
What reason too read Russian SF? Well why to you read English sci-fi? For the story! Not for the damned cultural background!
Personally I find i cant find enough sci-fi that i truley like, i can be very picky.
Okay, besides the fact this is going back so far and is unlikely to be seen, i feel i must make my point. :) (even if just to myself!)
:)
Firstly i'll state I am first generation Australian. Not that that really matters, because i am absolutly disgusted with Australia especially the similar sort of nationalistic / isolationist policies it has apparently in common with the US. Before you say it, yes if ecomnomic times were better i would emigrate!
But onto the point, you called me a 'Nationalist' i cant understand at all where you got that from, (bad guess?) I am in fact the exact opposite, a Liberalist. And i strongly disagree with your view that "no one is a good neighbor in international politics", have you looked my at Europe for example? The European Union is far from a grouping of duplicitous bastards as you put it. Im not for a second saying they are perfect friendly peace-loving neighbours, but they are a damn sight better than a hundred years ago, or even fifty or twenty years ago!
Its only people who see they world in the way that you seem too that gives us all the trouble with such International Treaties. If you expect and project back-stabbing and lying, well thats *all you will get*. For everyone else, well they too will get what they _want_ from it.
A side note, i am an optimist, i see the world as what it could be, i also see in the next half century the world will change many ways, one being if the US continues its borderline isolationism then, it will get that in return. But to compensate, a future European Union, with 500Million+ inhabitants, will do a far better job competing head-to-head with the US, than any individual nation before it. Kyoto is a perfect example of that, the world is changing, Govt's all over are seeing, if the US doesnt want to play, we can go with you! (And fuck Australia if we just want to be your lap-dog! [sigh])
Can you think of the reason why it is as you say, that bands only make money from touring?
Could it be like it was said by Courtney and others, that the fact is TOURING is the only thing that the record label doesnt completly own! In other words, with the system like it is, that's all they have left! And that's one of the problems.
You can't really say that at $19.90 (or AU$35, shit i dont know dont by that crap!) CD's dont make any money?
So what, because she made millions herself she's now _not allowed_ to complain that she was _ripped off_ tens or hundreds of millions?!?!
What kind of doubble standard is this? So only poor musicians should be out there complaining?
Oh please!
What she did with her money has got absolutly nothing to do with what she talks about and now fights for. As well the fact that if she's now as you say "unpopular" does not detract from the point she's making. Who cares if she's really just "trying to make a quick buck", that's capitalism for you! In no way what-so-ever does that diminish the real problem here.
Thats very true, i posted before about the value of TechNet, it is truley brilliant _most of the time_. There are occasions where it doesnt help too much, and i have experienced that exact Exchange problem. Unfortunatly that is one big document with a serious flaw. But after some other reading (inc non-ms sites), it wasnt too hard to find the real procedure.
Otherwise tho, ill say again, Technet is a brilliant source, probably 4/5 of those pesky event log errors you get on NT/2k/XP you can do a quick search for the number and find the cause AND solution!
This is one of those open-ended topics, each of us has their own way. Obviously you like the linux solution. Peronally I cant handle the linux desktop. I used to use it, actually my first linux-boxen was running Slackware in 94, since then i have always at least had one linux box around (actually not anymore, that machine runs OpenBSD now).
But my main point is here, given the choice of _anything_ at work i run Win2k on the desktop, and at home WinXP on my _main_ pc. The reason? I dont have time / patience anymore to tweak everylittle damn thing, or spend an hour setting up some hack to get xyz working. No time, and no patience, windows works for me, because i know how to _make_ it work (and that so often is overlooked) it runs Civ3, i can do my finances and it plays my DVD's, im happy, thats all i need.
When i needed to upgrade my Internet server / NAt box last year for Cable, i first used Redhat, then shortly after changed to BSD, because it fits the task perfectly!
Its that simple.
Thats very true, and i have had similar experiences, both with Linux / BSD and to a far lesser extent NT. (Yes i had an NT server for one client with 460days uptime!)
:)
The problem is, for example, say the something hardware goes wrong. Like you NIC starts broadcasting garbage because its faulty. That's not an easy problem to find in any operating system for an inexperienced sysadmin, thats where the vendor support comes in.
You cannot possibly expect that every sysadmin out there is an expert, its just not possible! But thats where those of us who are make our money. Im happy with that.
If you want to talk student level support, then its far easier! Technet there you have hundreds of thousands of pages of support for free, for EVERY MS product. All free, as in beer. Incidentally that is the no.1 resource for anyone who supports MS software, and should _always_ be consulted before you even think of calling for support!
This article talked about myths and there are certainly a lot of them. I work in the WindowsNT/2000 world (disclaimer: although i have used Linux extensivly since 1994!) and MS support is as you say, efficient. And its true if you have some issue and you just want to call up MS and get them to fix it, its a per-incident charge, but one of the MYTHS is that you are paying to fix bugs! Wrong. If the incident is found to be a flaw in the software, the fee is REFUNDED.
/.er but I hate them for GOOD / real reasons! :)
I had that exact experience with a client roling out XP just last month. There was a bug, my client paid MS (AU$50 incidently for that trouble shooting) the problem was found to be a small bug, it was fixed, and the fee refunded. Client's very happy, and so am I.
But on that note, that is actually only the THIRD time i have ever had to contact Microsoft Support, in four years in my job. I would say 70% of the time i know the solutions (common probs), 20% of the time a Technet search solves the problem, 0.1% Call MS tech support. And the rest, its possible to work-around. Thats just my experenice, mainly with NT4, 2000, Exchange 5 -> 2000, etc..
Im not going to preach for Microsoft (well..), i hate them in a way very similar to the next un-informed
Despite being so offtopic, i feel i must inject.
:)
If such studies show what you say, then care to explain why one particular country named The Netherlands (ala Amsterdam) has significantly LESS use of such drugs than even the United States. [link]
Also you may notice there some other facts such as the lower murder rate, and what i saw as the noticable level of ignorance of some American Politicians..
Your right there about competition, nothing like the threat of Good-Old Thermoneuclear war to get the Space race going!
Pitty we dont have that anymore..
/end sarcasm.
That $125M you mentioned saving could not quite have been saved had _NASA_ engineers used Metric, perhaps if the USA as a _whole_ converted to metric, then yes but, as your link states, the Imperial units were introduced by "Lockheed Martin", not NASA's JPL.
:)
Who's fault that was well, i guess thats what those pesky congressional hearings are for.
(Disclaimer: I am not from the US. Sometimes it needs to be said)
It's good to hear some non-US centric views get some +1 mod's here, (as opposed to -1 flamebait) I agree almost completly with you, especially regarding international treaties. The US tends to do exactly what is good for the US, and _nothing_ more. Although I'll add thats completly understandable, (coming from a confessed arrogant bastard :]) but you cant have it both ways, no matter how big you are. In other words for example, you cant push for a free-open world economy, while raising your tarrifs because your farmers are protesting.
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I think its almost on par with a course a friend of mine is doing here in Sydney Aus, titled: "Japanise Culture through Manga." Hah, yeah its basically an Arts course on Anime..
:)
Sheash, and i sometimes wonder why i have such limited respect for Tertiary Education.
Am I the only one who noticed one key thing in all those Raid's? How the FBI got so far into the scene? Now its not like you can goto www.warez.com and find links to a DOD / Razor FTP site! The only way to get there is by TRADING. From that link, apparently certain sites were actually FED sites! Think about it, how many hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of software did the fed's trade to catch those few groups? :)
Regardless, this is not going to dent the warez scene at all, maybe a slight slow-down but it will be back bigger and better! Maybe more lame groups tho. But one thing, from now it will be much harder to catch them! A previous posters parallels with Drugs is appropriate, zero-tolerance policy doesnt work, as soon as you catch one big drug dealer another three take his place!
(Sorry almost Redundant, this i touched on in another reply, but i think its worth more thought)
Your quite wrong there i believe, as none of the 'big' groups busted, ie 'DOD' sold software. They crack it, trade it and so on, but they are not the ones down in Chinatown (local Sydney/Aus example) burning those to cd's and selling them for $5!
Okay i may be wrong now that's all based on my (relativly speaking) small warez scene exposure from years ago..
The whole point really there was the extent that worldwide law-enforment agencies went (not just the FBI) went to bust them.
;) (Of course we'll just have to ignore the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of software they probably traded! :)
n al16.html
:)
From that info and what i would assume, the fed's had been infiltrating the sites for a long time, and the only way to get into the scene is to trade! Thats why if you look at those lists, _apparently_ there were a few FED (FBI / whatever) OPERATED WAREZ SITES! Now think about that for a second. Obviously they went all out in their attempts to infiltrate to the top, ie DOD, Razor, etc. I applaud them for that, at least you know they are doing their job well.
One annoying thing i saw was my local respectable news paper (SMH.com.au) put a definate spin on the story, breaking from IMO their usual unbiased position. With the heading "Software pirates boast proves idle" with an excerpt: "[bandido DOD member] had boasted on the Internet that he would never be caught"
The funny thing is the article finnishes (quietly) with: "No arrests have been made."
Src: http://www.smh.com.au/news/0112/13/national/natio
Although any hype here is overrated, these busts are nothing like some of the Cracks/Warez party busts in Europe and the US back in the early 90's!
The moon is in an orbit that as you said means we only see one side of it. Obviously since we see full-moon's / eclipses and all in between, that one side that we see does also see darkness.
But it is true that parts of the poles of the moon are almost eternally in the sunlight..
I also have a not so common name, but i found it quite amusing to read some of my posts from 93/94, damn its a real flashback to see some of that..
:)
But all I can say is _thank god_ most of the BBS / Fidonet forums i used to write (read: flame) too arn't quite as easy to search!
Im sorry i cant believe those prices? Now okay possibly you can get some cheaper drives on eBay but even still i was just recently looking at drive prices for a client and here's a comparison:
HP DLT 80Gig (40 native) = AU$4000
DLT Tapes = AU$150 / EACH
(For comparison)
HP DDS4 (20G Native) = AU$2300
DDS4 Tapes = $60 / Each..
Even after conversion to US$ ( AU$1 = US$0.50) thats way way out of im sure just about anyone's home backup solution price range!
But i completely agree with you, DLT is an Industrial strength backup solution, one I frequently recommend, but even DDS is far out of the price range for almost all home users..
I agree, personnally i have over 120GB of storage, mostly filled with stuff like mp3's and my video's etc, sure if my house burnt down it would suck, but i think a lot of other things lost to be worse than my music / pr0n collection. :)
:)
I use an old DDS2 tape drive to backup my _data_, real data i mean like financial records, documents and the rest of the 600meg or so that is _actually_ important.
The rest of it, well i can get 90% of my mp3's back off my cd's or from friends who i have traded them with. Same with everything else really.