I'm pretty sure that in the late 1930s, the process to make Little Boy and Fat Man would have been patentable under any purview that considered any kind of patents to be valid.
They were patented by Leo Szilard, US government stole/took over for free those patents and screwed the inventor.
Then you don't recall correctly, obviously. Microsoft did actually develop Project Natal within its own organization (and through a wholly-owned subsidiary). They are using hardware developed by an Israeli company.
reposting my old comment: "Actually NO, That "most successful company to ever exist" spends $600 million developing kinect (developing means running around buying out companies like 3DV Systems) and writing skeletal reconstruction code (that has a 0.5second LAG, just try playing Adventures and then compare lag to Fitness that doesnt use skeletal code and doesnt lag at all)... and in the end used PrimeSense Reference Design because what they developed in house DIDNT WORK."
and: "Its merely a partner agreement between Primesense and Microsoft. Microsoft doesnt own a single bit of hardware technology that goes into Kinect."
The sensor came from primasense. The algorithms in it are entirely from MSR.
Why can you download SDK with this software from Primasense directly, but not from Microsoft if the algorithms are M$ property? Looks like M$ is just appropriating third party research.
Classic misunderstanding. Nodding from a Japanese person does not indicate agreement - it merely indicates that they are paying attention. It is very common for western companies to misunderstand this. Personally I find this hilarious.
Not if they keep saying "yes" all the time. And my company knew they were lying 10 minutes after the meeting.
that pride also makes them nod and say yes when negotiating with western partners, even when that means LYING to your face. Its more honorable to lie directly into your face than to disagree lol. Not to mention honor demands from them covering up nuclear accidents (Monju).
There was The Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits (new series, dont remember which one tho) episode about this. About a guy whose job was to operate the "transporter". Transporter was actually making copies and mans duty was to push a button destroying the original, but only after getting confirmation that the copy was successfully reassembled at the destination. One day transporter malfunctions, confirmation doesnt come, man doesnt kill a woman transported. While they wait he gets to know her better. Later confirmation comes that the copy was reassembled and he has to destroy the original. Big moral dilemma, kill the woman or let her live and upset the Aliens that are overseeing whole thing and destroy any hope of human kind to know aliens better.
That was one of my fav episodes, next to the one with big spaceships that each had one human on board taking care of them.
I am by no means an MS fanboy, but you're talking bullshit. Xbox division is one of the few areas MS is making money. The 360 made money not long after it was released. Revenue for the Xbox division has been a steady US$8bn for a few years and profits have been far from abysmal (approx US$500m).
I am always amazed at what fanboys come up with, and I'd suspect you are a Sony fanboy.
500mil per year? on a >8B investment 11 years ago? and you think its great? Not to mention Games division started making profit only in 2007, so BEST case scenario is 2B return for >8B investment. Its not even a profit, They just started earning back the investment, 12 more years and they will be in the green.
And its time to invest another 8-10B....
A recent project of mine. I opened the package with the arduino ( Another similarity with apple , they include cute stickers:-D ) Ripped apart a Wii Motion plus controler. Strapped the innards of the WPM and the arduino to a pair of aluminum towel bars. Added 4 brushless motors and propellers. And had myself a working qudro copter ( if you dont know what it is , think helicopter with 4 blades and no moving parts besides the props ).
Congratulations, you made a prebuild kit (if you did make it at all, pics or gtfo). No code written, no designing involved, no knowledge gained, replication with ready made building blocks.
If you are trying to continue the fallacy and say that they are "expensive" , then you are highly mistaken.
Its a fact, I already told you where to buy whole 90mips dev board with tft LCD cheaper than bare arduino you were so praising. Hell, you can even buy arduino-like ARM boards cheaper than the board you mentioned http://leaflabs.com/store/ 90mips with arduino IDE.
There is NOTHING stopping you from downloding the source files for the board , and making your own. Not a thing at all.
AVRs are more expensive than anything else on the market, be it per mhz, per I/O, per KB, per unit, you name it. Why would i want to make my own board for $16 chip that has a performance of $3 competition?
Perhaps you tried to use the word gaming as humor. Apple is not known for gaming.
I know I only use them to play starcraft , perhaps some wow. OH and steam has a bunch of stuff that will run on mac.Oh dont let me forget my "onlive" account also.. To play call of duty , or something like that. I sit on my couch.
So you compare arduino to a laggy vaporware gaming platform, thank you for proving my point:)
( Oh.. and I was unable to locate this mystery board for $50 anyplace besides ebay
.. And even there I had no idea what I was looking at.
No doubt about it.
There were Items with penny starting bids.. and items with $270 buy it now prices
Yes, numbers are confusing, especially with dollar sign in front, thats why Adruino is so popular:)
..Also.. Not sure about you , but I tend to buy things from people I can trust. Not having to take a risk on some ebay shop.. Google shopping search for "STM32 development board " returns items in the low 3 digit price ranges.. 250ish.. )
Yes, Arduino is great because you are unable to shop online. Great arguments my friend:) There is a whole world of electronics out there, yet people threat Arduino as the only option.
Try a used inkjet/scanner combo with photo SD. That comes with sensors and prewired motor controllers. (see sig, though I haven't done an ARM based one yet, just PPC which are usually too old for SD slots, and nobody's shown any interest so development is stalled.)
No wonder, since "895cxi hack" in google doesnt return any results. What do you know about ARM based one? I happen to have HP Photosmart 8250 that is begging to get hacked since 2009:/ http://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1476830.html#7236348 How did you figure out how to flash yours?
For the amount of money they cost ?? 65 bucks for a completed 2560 with usb interface.. Completely assembled and tested.. You think thats alot ?? INCLUDING SOFTWARE TO PROGRAM IT !!!
It is cheap for the "I have zero knowledge about electronics, but I heard duino is kewl and hip" crowd.
For $50 you get real 32bit 70MHz ARM with 256kb flash, 48kb ram, 320x240 2.4" TFT LCD with touch (Ebay "STM32 STM32F103VCT6 development Board+2.4" TFT LCD Z" for example)
Arduiono is a synonym of gaming Apple computer in electronic world.
They are not the only options. I could use C on my ardinio.
You could. But the whole argument about Arduino being a BAD thing is people dont use C, they use C++, they use floating point math, they think its just a small computer... they have zero knowledge about hardware when they pick up Arduino, and they NEVER LEARN. Just look at RepRap code, they have Floating point emulation in INTERRUPT handler! At the same time they regularly jump to higher end AVRs because they cant fit that crappy code in previous Arduino chip.
Shareholders? You're kidding, right? It took 5 or 6 years for the Xbox to break even, before that Microsoft was burning thru tens of millions every year just keeping the xbox afloat. But guess what? It paid off
Xbox division stopped making a loss, they did NOT start making profit (and wont for next ~10 years). No, earning more than you spend during one quarter doesnt count if you pumped $6B in R&D and marketing. Kinect alone was $600mil in marketing _before_ if even hit the shelves.
Slashdot Mirror
They think this was all about stealing credit cards.
Wonder if anyone shorted a massive amount of Sony stock before the news broke.
I'm pretty sure that in the late 1930s, the process to make Little Boy and Fat Man would have been patentable under any purview that considered any kind of patents to be valid.
They were patented by Leo Szilard, US government stole/took over for free those patents and screwed the inventor.
Then you don't recall correctly, obviously. Microsoft did actually develop Project Natal within its own organization (and through a wholly-owned subsidiary). They are using hardware developed by an Israeli company.
reposting my old comment: ... and in the end used PrimeSense Reference Design because what they developed in house DIDNT WORK."
"Actually NO, That "most successful company to ever exist" spends $600 million developing kinect (developing means running around buying out companies like 3DV Systems) and writing skeletal reconstruction code (that has a 0.5second LAG, just try playing Adventures and then compare lag to Fitness that doesnt use skeletal code and doesnt lag at all)
and:
"Its merely a partner agreement between Primesense and Microsoft. Microsoft doesnt own a single bit of hardware technology that goes into Kinect."
You know Kathy Griffin?
Yeah, he tapped that.
Are you that stupid? Cant you tell PR and RealityTV from reality?
The sensor came from primasense. The algorithms in it are entirely from MSR.
Why can you download SDK with this software from Primasense directly, but not from Microsoft if the algorithms are M$ property?
Looks like M$ is just appropriating third party research.
I know it's just a rendering... ...but why is the Kinect so much larger than their reference design?
http://www.primesense.com/?p=487
4 microphones array for audio 3d localization
Classic misunderstanding. Nodding from a Japanese person does not indicate agreement - it merely indicates that they are paying attention. It is very common for western companies to misunderstand this. Personally I find this hilarious.
Not if they keep saying "yes" all the time. And my company knew they were lying 10 minutes after the meeting.
that pride also makes them nod and say yes when negotiating with western partners, even when that means LYING to your face. Its more honorable to lie directly into your face than to disagree lol.
Not to mention honor demands from them covering up nuclear accidents (Monju).
>Epic's Unreal engine, Crytek's Cryengine 3, and DICE's Frostbite 2
those are ALL console engines
There was The Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits (new series, dont remember which one tho) episode about this. About a guy whose job was to operate the "transporter". Transporter was actually making copies and mans duty was to push a button destroying the original, but only after getting confirmation that the copy was successfully reassembled at the destination. One day transporter malfunctions, confirmation doesnt come, man doesnt kill a woman transported. While they wait he gets to know her better. Later confirmation comes that the copy was reassembled and he has to destroy the original. Big moral dilemma, kill the woman or let her live and upset the Aliens that are overseeing whole thing and destroy any hope of human kind to know aliens better.
That was one of my fav episodes, next to the one with big spaceships that each had one human on board taking care of them.
1 dont play EA games :)
2 PVP against humans, not the best AI around, but better than computer one
I am by no means an MS fanboy, but you're talking bullshit. Xbox division is one of the few areas MS is making money. The 360 made money not long after it was released. Revenue for the Xbox division has been a steady US$8bn for a few years and profits have been far from abysmal (approx US$500m).
I am always amazed at what fanboys come up with, and I'd suspect you are a Sony fanboy.
500mil per year? on a >8B investment 11 years ago? and you think its great? ....
Not to mention Games division started making profit only in 2007, so BEST case scenario is 2B return for >8B investment.
Its not even a profit, They just started earning back the investment, 12 more years and they will be in the green.
And its time to invest another 8-10B
When they have enough importance that they're not channel 305, and when advertisers
Its called Education. WTF, doesnt US fund educational TV channels like the rest of civilized world?
You can pay, you cant sell
Why do you have to be such an ass ?? Really ...
Its because I HATE arduino!
Please do the world a favor , and never reproduce.
If you want to have a real discussion , feel free to respond. If you want to be an ass .. Go troll someplace else please.
Go build a blinking led with 2560 arduino.
Not sure what you mean by that.
I know
If by that you mean "It just works"
no
A recent project of mine. I opened the package with the arduino ( Another similarity with apple , they include cute stickers :-D ) Ripped apart a Wii Motion plus controler. Strapped the innards of the WPM and the arduino to a pair of aluminum towel bars. Added 4 brushless motors and propellers. And had myself a working qudro copter ( if you dont know what it is , think helicopter with 4 blades and no moving parts besides the props ).
Congratulations, you made a prebuild kit (if you did make it at all, pics or gtfo). No code written, no designing involved, no knowledge gained, replication with ready made building blocks.
If you are trying to continue the fallacy and say that they are "expensive" , then you are highly mistaken.
Its a fact, I already told you where to buy whole 90mips dev board with tft LCD cheaper than bare arduino you were so praising.
Hell, you can even buy arduino-like ARM boards cheaper than the board you mentioned
http://leaflabs.com/store/
90mips with arduino IDE.
There is NOTHING stopping you from downloding the source files for the board , and making your own. Not a thing at all.
AVRs are more expensive than anything else on the market, be it per mhz, per I/O, per KB, per unit, you name it.
Why would i want to make my own board for $16 chip that has a performance of $3 competition?
Perhaps you tried to use the word gaming as humor. Apple is not known for gaming.
I know I only use them to play starcraft , perhaps some wow. OH and steam has a bunch of stuff that will run on mac.Oh dont let me forget my "onlive" account also.. To play call of duty , or something like that. I sit on my couch.
So you compare arduino to a laggy vaporware gaming platform, thank you for proving my point :)
( Oh .. and I was unable to locate this mystery board for $50 anyplace besides ebay
http://www.micro4you.com/store/mini-stm32-stm32f103-tft-lcd-board-v4/prod_164.html
No doubt about it.
There were Items with penny starting bids .. and items with $270 buy it now prices
Yes, numbers are confusing, especially with dollar sign in front, thats why Adruino is so popular :)
Yes, Arduino is great because you are unable to shop online. Great arguments my friend :)
There is a whole world of electronics out there, yet people threat Arduino as the only option.
Try a used inkjet/scanner combo with photo SD. That comes with sensors and prewired motor controllers. (see sig, though I haven't done an ARM based one yet, just PPC which are usually too old for SD slots, and nobody's shown any interest so development is stalled.)
No wonder, since "895cxi hack" in google doesnt return any results. :/
What do you know about ARM based one? I happen to have HP Photosmart 8250 that is begging to get hacked since 2009
http://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1476830.html#7236348
How did you figure out how to flash yours?
I was thinking of something in the $50
Buy an openWRT router, problem solved.
With the LaunchPad you have to deal with propritary IDEs that cost lots of money for anything but the basics. The official Arduino's IDE
With Arduino, you are left with IDE that lets you do ONLY the basics.
For the amount of money they cost ?? .. Completely assembled and tested .. You think thats alot ?? INCLUDING SOFTWARE TO PROGRAM IT !!!
65 bucks for a completed 2560 with usb interface
It is cheap for the "I have zero knowledge about electronics, but I heard duino is kewl and hip" crowd.
For $50 you get real 32bit 70MHz ARM with 256kb flash, 48kb ram, 320x240 2.4" TFT LCD with touch (Ebay "STM32 STM32F103VCT6 development Board+2.4" TFT LCD Z" for example)
Arduiono is a synonym of gaming Apple computer in electronic world.
They are not the only options. I could use C on my ardinio.
You could. But the whole argument about Arduino being a BAD thing is people dont use C, they use C++, they use floating point math, they think its just a small computer ... they have zero knowledge about hardware when they pick up Arduino, and they NEVER LEARN. Just look at RepRap code, they have Floating point emulation in INTERRUPT handler! At the same time they regularly jump to higher end AVRs because they cant fit that crappy code in previous Arduino chip.
Shareholders? You're kidding, right? It took 5 or 6 years for the Xbox to break even, before that Microsoft was burning thru tens of millions every year just keeping the xbox afloat. But guess what? It paid off
Xbox division stopped making a loss, they did NOT start making profit (and wont for next ~10 years).
No, earning more than you spend during one quarter doesnt count if you pumped $6B in R&D and marketing.
Kinect alone was $600mil in marketing _before_ if even hit the shelves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wJHj3hOcuI I did this with about $3000 as part of my thesis. Nobody wanted to buy the tech afterward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNuZwY2iDcM
Sold to Polish army for ~$1mil a pop (unofficial, obviously price secret).
I'm a judge of character
Rockets are build by Engineers, not judges of character. No one gives a shit about your opinion.
Think of the Will Smith movie version of "I, Robot" where the robot cooks an apple pie from scratch.
Crumbly, but good!