Poor Playstation 3. It Really is sad to see something with so much potential get burried.
Yeah, I'm all choked up. I think what you actually meant is its delicious just desserts to see an arrogant corporation lose money hand over fist on an overhyped, overpowered, overpriced, Luxury Item they are trying to sell to teenagers. While they are being beat down by an underated(initially anyway), inexpensive, underpowered, happy little fun box from their third place competitor.
I and others recognized this as soon as the prices were announced. No amount of linux booting, accelleromter adding, online shopping enabling, metooism is going to fix that. Only the inevitable Price Reduction will save them now.
I'm an open source fanatic. I prefer open to closed. Long live Linus and Stallman etcetera etcetera...
I use Kdevelop as exclusively as possible Compile in windows on the command line.
Naturally, when chained to a windows machine, I search for a comparative tool. I had been a party to more than one VB monstrosity, and the thought of going back made me want to retch. I used em all. CodeBlocks won out but only just.
The point of this story is Eclipse vs VisualStudio, So my Comparison: Based on previous the release of Eclipse CDT
Hated it period next option. (I'll try the new one, but no big hurry) I am a fair person. I tried Visual Studio Express due to its new license. Man was it a breeze. It did exactly what is was supposed to and was completely free and unrestricted. I used it for two projects (1 was an upgrade to a previous VB monstrosity, Oh they all are.) I cant stand the.net framework, But I have to admit if you can stand it Visual Studio is the way to go.
I wish the guys at sharpdevelop and Monodevelop all the best and I know in the end you'll get it just perfect and Microsoft will change
Back to real coding hence the codeblocks c++. Nice QT editor for windows. Cannot wait for KDE4 kdevelop on windows.
My argument is that community-supported Free & Open Source Software solutions a superior IDE make.
Thats not an argument, thats a statement. So far you've presented nothing to back it up.
I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. I can take BSD code and make it proprietary and not even tell the original author.
But if I use this piece of code (Dual Licensed) you think I am obligated to share it with the OpenBSD guys? Hmmmm.
Lemme google for a sec......... Ok.
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
* Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
* Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
* Neither the name of the nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
Were these conditions met? Yep. The way I see it you have two choices.
F Off, or Contact the author of modified code and ask for permission to use in openBSD code. Note, The author of modified code has the right to say no, the code is GPL only.
These semi-bi-annual rants kinda make me want to release a complete dupe OS based on openBSD with all the code GPL'd. GNBSD (GNBSDs not BSD) Who's with me?
Seriously, I've never seen anyone outside of Microsoft so Anti-GPL.
You know, Theo, There is a license available to meet your share and share alike requirements. I think its called the General Public License http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html or something, by some crazy hippie guy who believes software should be freely distributed, shared, and modified.
Of course he's on the fringe and nobody would use software under those conditions. I mean how are we to make money with a scheme like that?
Surely if it worked, I'm sure major Corporations like IBM, SUN, and others would use it almost exclusively right?
I happen to agree with him on this particular matter (ie, tax havening is often immoral), but I fail to see why his opinion should carry any more weight than mine.
You know, I have respect for Richard Stallman. And I find it amusing when people call him a hippie or whatnot. But this guy really wears outfits like that in public?
It is amazing that he looks more hippie than the guy in the next pic, Wavy Gravy.
Doom has been ported to everything in existence, so it was only a matter of time before it became playable on Web Radio.
I know you are joking but, I open Amarok and click Radio, Shoutcast, Game and 40 stations pop up many of which include Doom1,2,3 Level music, in regular rotation.
Nice to see you interested in our interest. I've read your lkml responses and they reinforce Linus' decision to chose you to Maintain the Scheduler (IMHO).
It should be pointed out to all Kernel Hackers, the kernel is the product, not a place for their pet project unmodified. No offense to Roman. This part of the code is a bit beyond me, But your approach to his patches seems reasonable. I hope he follows up with the patches you requested. We all want a faster "Fair" scheduler.
Like many here, I was intrigued by Con's claims of 3d improvements, and any work that moves us closer to better 3d Gaming is a good thing for Linux as a whole. It's good to see so much work in the Scheduler to squeeze every slice of time as much as possible.
Only one question, shouldn't you be working rather than reading Slashdot? I know its the weekend, just wanted to be on the other side of that question for once.
Just in case no one has said it lately, Thank You for your efforts.
Its official. The US of A is now an Official Police State (TM). Soon you will all be given your Federal IDs and fingerprinted at birth.
Ummm, I was born in 1972 and My Birth certificate has Full hand and Footprints, I keep it right next to my Social Security Card I received the same year.
This will stop the terrorists.
Yeah, so thats workin out well.
That's right you sheep, just stand there and take it.
I've got a better idea. Actively pursue better laws.
Since you Know your government is listening and reading your every text, Gives you an opportunity to speak directly to them. The subtler the better.
If someone were to comb through my Voice and Data History, I'd sure be interested in their world view afterwards. Of course my History is my own, and I cannot expect everyone to be as open to inspection as I may be. (What midgetPorn?)
I've got a NGage QD sitting right here.The games I've tried tend to suck. Using it as a phone is uncomfortable to say the least.
I'd prefer Nokia continue to work on their Tablet products. If the NGage is destined to becomes a gaming service, my only hope is it will be available for 770 and 800.http://europe.nokia.com/770
All in all a great idea, horribly executed. If the cost hadn't been next to nothing I would feel I wasted my money.
HA, Article tagged Patrick Stewart..........Classic
One of My Favorites, AdvanceCD is a bootable live CD, DVD and USB disk of a minimal Linux distribution containing the AdvanceMAME emulator.
You can boot it in any PC and play the contained games without any installation. The default distribution contains the arcade games Gridlee, Poly Play and Robby Roto and it uses only 20 Mbyte leaving the whole disk for your roms.
http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/cd-readme.html
The reason they can do this is because Delorean never did anything small. He had enough parts made to produce a ton of cars, these guys bought them all. They sell restorations and build new ones from new (warehoused) parts. Been doing it for years.
They do quite well for themselves. Not really news though.
The post above claims that Linus made the right choice because Con left. However, this is a fallacious argument equivalent to saying "your head is squishier than an egg, because if I leave the egg alone and hit your head with a sledgehammer, your skull will crack but the egg will be fine". There is no proof that the other programmer could survive such public, brutal character assasination.
Nice analogy, utterly flawed but has nice imagery.
I think you should read up on Ingo. I also think that we were not a party to the one sided arguement Linus was. It may have been rather compelling. It may have come from people Linus trusts, It may have been from Cons wife, the point is we don't know. He does. He makes these decisions. 'Brutal Character assasination', Again I don't see it. What are we children, No way, take the criticism and buck up and show him he was wrong. Quitting and whining just proves that point, he couldn't Hack it (Intentional Pun). Squishy Egg Head LOL.
I respect all the Kernel Devs, partly because it is all but thankless anonymous work. The best reasons to work on the kernel are your own pet projects. The worst reason is for your resume. It may turn out to be good looking on your resume if your pet project gets in the mainline. But that is an added benefit. I'm a gamer and I'd really love the kernel to be better suited to this task. Now we have lost the one dev who really seemed to care alot about this subject. Shame, though it is, I can't blame Linus for this. As I said, He is the decider. Con knew that going in. And He sure the hell knows it going out.
Really, calling for a Desktop fork, come on. Much more rational approach would be patching the CFS to be better suited for 3d Gaming. That is how it works. Never Give up. If Linus decides you can't be a maintainer and further has no problems with your code then you get your code to the new maintainer, If it works it get in.
...if you read the whole thread,...
I read many a thread my friend. This issue is important to me for selfish reasons. I read all the support from the -ck users, I read Linus' explanations. I even read some of the -ck threads. Nothing tells me why Linus made the wrong choice.
This is a clear indication that the captain is drunk at the wheel.
Puhlease. It indicates no such thing.
No self-respecting manager anywhere would behave this way and if this is how he makes decisions on a day-to-day basis,
Ever actually had a manager?
I am surprised Linux has any devs working on it at all anymore.
It's like saying, "I'm not putting this thing in because you're an asshole and you never listen and I don't like your little club house and you need to stfu because you're a stupid jewfag.
Jewfag, hmmm, I've read a crapload of LKML over the last few days checking into this, and I don't recall any personal attacks. I see Linus saying forking a desktop kernel is a bonehead idea, I see him say the messages he has been CC'd have cast an unfavorable light on Con's ability to be a good maintainer. But lemme check again, nope, no jewfag. I also see him stating that if the need arises he will revisit his decision in the future. Maybe I'm reading the wrong list.
There will always be complainers that don't make it in the tree. I've got no patches in either. But I'm not giving up. If I have something I feel important, I'll make my case and stick it out. We all know that the most usable solution usually wins out in the long run, guess he was a sprinter.
My home is decked out in Linux machines, and we use OpenOffice, even on the one last remaining Windows box. If the teacher can't read it I'll be happy to print it out for her on paper.
Really the nerve of some School boards, trying to upsell a useless upgrade. Ribbon, pffft. That's right I said it. pffft.
I say this because, As a practical matter Linus is right again.
One only has to look at the reaction of a programmer who quits because his pet project didn't get into the mainline kernel. He obviously was not the best choice for a long term maintainer.
Arguements over which code was superior are irrelevant at this point. The decision was made and will be made again when next revisited, after extensive testing and reporting. Right now the independent reports recieved by Linus were that they were pretty much equal. That only left him with the decision of who would be the better maintainer. He is the guy who gets to choose and I think he chose wisely. No offense to Con. I wish him all the best and hope he reconsiders as he matures.
I play games under Linux and I appreciate Con's efforts, but I understand that it is not the OS only focus. He didn't, Ingo does.
All Hail the Benovolent Dictator Linus. May his pragmatic glory shine upon thee.
What is sadder? Members of a rock band from the 60's or 70's playing country fairs or in Branson or a aging actor replaying a role he did 40 years ago on a cheesy TV show.
Hey now, Leonard Nimoy has played more State Fairs than the Beatles.
Wait, so Vista is a failure because you have no interest in it?
Isn't it possible that you don't really know much about Vista, and that you get most of your news from extremely biased sites like Slashdot, and therefore haven't been able to come to an educated conclusion about the product?
Um no. It is my job to keep abreast of the IT world. I read articles from all over the web. I read reviews from everywhere, and I have even been forced to use the new OS on more than one occasion. The Dreaded Vista has installed itself within my very family circle. My brother has it, I have used it while visiting his abode. I abhor it. I find nothing apealing in it, hate the UAC with a passion I can only describe as pathological. Every task has me muttering to myself "Fuckin Windows" As an update to XP; I suppose it fits that description. Not one I would personally pay for. If I am buying a new PC (I haven't done so in years, prefer building my own) I would rather have XP preinstalled (Not that it would last long anyway in my house).
My point was, I am now as then a Microsoft Partner (VAR) Microsoft has done nothing to keep me as a customer, nor have me reccomend Vista as an upgrade to my customers. (Short of bribery for favorable blog comments.) That is kinda their job and they failed miserably.
Wow. That was an absolutely quintessential ignorant slashdot post. I'm gonna bookmark this one for future reference.
I find your jump to this conclusion a little far fetched. I am sorry for shattering your misconceptions though.
Perhaps you could enlighten me how Vista has changed your computing experiences for the better. Ooo, I know, you can now play Halo2 (An XBOX game that was a what a 700mhz pc) thanks to DX10 only available on Vista. I can see why you are so excited.
Want me to say something positive about Vista. No problem, it runs Kubuntu great in VMPlayer.
Man I miss mine. And by miss, I mean I should really pull it out of the box again. But since I have long ago thrown away all those issues of Byte and Antic, I'd have to write all the software myself. Don't think I'll ever throw that thing away.Spent 2 summers trying to scrape up the cash for an ST.
Thanks Dad. Can't believe you paid $800 for it. Great Christmas though. Never told him I wanted an IBM, made the mistake of saying computer. Could have been much worse, Like a Tandy./shudder/
Hard to believe it had a color thermal printer in like 1984.
At XP Launch I was at Microsoft Event recieved Brand Spanking new RC1 for my PC, Installed my partners on a laptop during the ride home. Was greatly impressed. Installed it on My PC at home. USed it for 6 months. Reinstalled, used it 3 months Reinstalled. This went on and on, During all this time working as a tech "Repaired" meaning wiped and reinstalled about 45 machines.
At Vista Launch I was sitting here at my Debian Desktop. My Daughter is sitteng at her Kubuntu, My Stubborn Gamer Son is still sitting at his XP desktop. None of us have even a remote interest in purchasing/installing Vista.
I understand your excitement at installing Vista, Xp was a great improvement over 98 and Ungh ME. I was excited too. It'll fade.
Meanwhile new version of my OS comes out. I just apt-get it. No money. No disappointment. No Party. Just a small news item.
I've been Windows free for years now. Feels really good. Feels right. Do miss those free pens, keychains and lunches though. Guess I need to get out to a LinuxWorld Conf.
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It is not about how many stock options you have, it's about how much copper you can pull out of the walls on the way out.
HaHa.
Yeah, I'm all choked up. I think what you actually meant is its delicious just desserts to see an arrogant corporation lose money hand over fist on an overhyped, overpowered, overpriced, Luxury Item they are trying to sell to teenagers. While they are being beat down by an underated(initially anyway), inexpensive, underpowered, happy little fun box from their third place competitor.
I and others recognized this as soon as the prices were announced. No amount of linux booting, accelleromter adding, online shopping enabling, metooism is going to fix that. Only the inevitable Price Reduction will save them now.
Console wars 2007. Who wins, WII do.
Wow, I'll be avoiding this at all costs. Shame, I like dragons.
Google Talk, Gtalk , gtalk . gtalk gtalkgtalkgtalk....Goggletalk
I use Kdevelop as exclusively as possible Compile in windows on the command line.
Naturally, when chained to a windows machine, I search for a comparative tool. I had been a party to more than one VB monstrosity, and the thought of going back made me want to retch. I used em all. CodeBlocks won out but only just.
The point of this story is Eclipse vs VisualStudio, So my Comparison: Based on previous the release of Eclipse CDT Hated it period next option. (I'll try the new one, but no big hurry) I am a fair person. I tried Visual Studio Express due to its new license. Man was it a breeze. It did exactly what is was supposed to and was completely free and unrestricted. I used it for two projects (1 was an upgrade to a previous VB monstrosity, Oh they all are.) I cant stand the .net framework, But I have to admit if you can stand it Visual Studio is the way to go.
I wish the guys at sharpdevelop and Monodevelop all the best and I know in the end you'll get it just perfect and Microsoft will change Back to real coding hence the codeblocks c++. Nice QT editor for windows. Cannot wait for KDE4 kdevelop on windows.
Thats not an argument, thats a statement. So far you've presented nothing to back it up.
Can be.
I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. I can take BSD code and make it proprietary and not even tell the original author.
But if I use this piece of code (Dual Licensed) you think I am obligated to share it with the OpenBSD guys? Hmmmm.
Lemme google for a sec......... Ok.
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
* Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
* Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
* Neither the name of the nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
Were these conditions met? Yep. The way I see it you have two choices.
F Off, or Contact the author of modified code and ask for permission to use in openBSD code. Note, The author of modified code has the right to say no, the code is GPL only.
These semi-bi-annual rants kinda make me want to release a complete dupe OS based on openBSD with all the code GPL'd. GNBSD (GNBSDs not BSD) Who's with me?
Seriously, I've never seen anyone outside of Microsoft so Anti-GPL.
You know, Theo, There is a license available to meet your share and share alike requirements. I think its called the General Public License http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html or something, by some crazy hippie guy who believes software should be freely distributed, shared, and modified.
Of course he's on the fringe and nobody would use software under those conditions. I mean how are we to make money with a scheme like that?
Surely if it worked, I'm sure major Corporations like IBM, SUN, and others would use it almost exclusively right?
Dude, its the hat.
Sure, but uh psst. She don't wear any. I don't think she has a pant drawer.
It is amazing that he looks more hippie than the guy in the next pic, Wavy Gravy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavy_Gravy
I know you are joking but, I open Amarok and click Radio, Shoutcast, Game and 40 stations pop up many of which include Doom1,2,3 Level music, in regular rotation.
Not to mention the plethora of sites like http://www.doomworld.com/classicdoom/info/music.ph p
Sometimes its comforting.
It should be pointed out to all Kernel Hackers, the kernel is the product, not a place for their pet project unmodified. No offense to Roman. This part of the code is a bit beyond me, But your approach to his patches seems reasonable. I hope he follows up with the patches you requested. We all want a faster "Fair" scheduler.
Like many here, I was intrigued by Con's claims of 3d improvements, and any work that moves us closer to better 3d Gaming is a good thing for Linux as a whole. It's good to see so much work in the Scheduler to squeeze every slice of time as much as possible.
Only one question, shouldn't you be working rather than reading Slashdot? I know its the weekend, just wanted to be on the other side of that question for once.
Just in case no one has said it lately, Thank You for your efforts.
Ummm, I was born in 1972 and My Birth certificate has Full hand and Footprints, I keep it right next to my Social Security Card I received the same year. This will stop the terrorists.
Yeah, so thats workin out well. That's right you sheep, just stand there and take it.
I've got a better idea. Actively pursue better laws.
Since you Know your government is listening and reading your every text, Gives you an opportunity to speak directly to them. The subtler the better. If someone were to comb through my Voice and Data History, I'd sure be interested in their world view afterwards. Of course my History is my own, and I cannot expect everyone to be as open to inspection as I may be. (What midgetPorn?)
I'd prefer Nokia continue to work on their Tablet products. If the NGage is destined to becomes a gaming service, my only hope is it will be available for 770 and 800.http://europe.nokia.com/770
All in all a great idea, horribly executed. If the cost hadn't been next to nothing I would feel I wasted my money.
HA, Article tagged Patrick Stewart..........Classic
live.linuX-gamers.net is a Linux live-dvd distribution: "boot 'n play" http://live.linux-gamers.net/
One of My Favorites, AdvanceCD is a bootable live CD, DVD and USB disk of a minimal Linux distribution containing the AdvanceMAME emulator.
You can boot it in any PC and play the contained games without any installation. The default distribution contains the arcade games Gridlee, Poly Play and Robby Roto and it uses only 20 Mbyte leaving the whole disk for your roms. http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/cd-readme.html
Games Knoppix
Review http://www.linux.com/articles/113906
Download http://www.games-knoppix.org/
http://gamer-linux.pappapc.com/
and on and on and on. You have heard of Google, yeah?
They do quite well for themselves. Not really news though.
Nice analogy, utterly flawed but has nice imagery. I think you should read up on Ingo. I also think that we were not a party to the one sided arguement Linus was. It may have been rather compelling. It may have come from people Linus trusts, It may have been from Cons wife, the point is we don't know. He does. He makes these decisions. 'Brutal Character assasination', Again I don't see it. What are we children, No way, take the criticism and buck up and show him he was wrong. Quitting and whining just proves that point, he couldn't Hack it (Intentional Pun). Squishy Egg Head LOL.
I respect all the Kernel Devs, partly because it is all but thankless anonymous work. The best reasons to work on the kernel are your own pet projects. The worst reason is for your resume. It may turn out to be good looking on your resume if your pet project gets in the mainline. But that is an added benefit. I'm a gamer and I'd really love the kernel to be better suited to this task. Now we have lost the one dev who really seemed to care alot about this subject. Shame, though it is, I can't blame Linus for this. As I said, He is the decider. Con knew that going in. And He sure the hell knows it going out.
Really, calling for a Desktop fork, come on. Much more rational approach would be patching the CFS to be better suited for 3d Gaming. That is how it works. Never Give up. If Linus decides you can't be a maintainer and further has no problems with your code then you get your code to the new maintainer, If it works it get in.
I read many a thread my friend. This issue is important to me for selfish reasons. I read all the support from the -ck users, I read Linus' explanations. I even read some of the -ck threads. Nothing tells me why Linus made the wrong choice. This is a clear indication that the captain is drunk at the wheel.
Puhlease. It indicates no such thing.
No self-respecting manager anywhere would behave this way and if this is how he makes decisions on a day-to-day basis,
Ever actually had a manager?
I am surprised Linux has any devs working on it at all anymore.
Stop it, I'm gonna pee. ACs kill me.
Jewfag, hmmm, I've read a crapload of LKML over the last few days checking into this, and I don't recall any personal attacks. I see Linus saying forking a desktop kernel is a bonehead idea, I see him say the messages he has been CC'd have cast an unfavorable light on Con's ability to be a good maintainer. But lemme check again, nope, no jewfag. I also see him stating that if the need arises he will revisit his decision in the future. Maybe I'm reading the wrong list.
There will always be complainers that don't make it in the tree. I've got no patches in either. But I'm not giving up. If I have something I feel important, I'll make my case and stick it out. We all know that the most usable solution usually wins out in the long run, guess he was a sprinter.
My home is decked out in Linux machines, and we use OpenOffice, even on the one last remaining Windows box. If the teacher can't read it I'll be happy to print it out for her on paper.
Really the nerve of some School boards, trying to upsell a useless upgrade.
Ribbon, pffft. That's right I said it. pffft.
One only has to look at the reaction of a programmer who quits because his pet project didn't get into the mainline kernel. He obviously was not the best choice for a long term maintainer.
Arguements over which code was superior are irrelevant at this point. The decision was made and will be made again when next revisited, after extensive testing and reporting. Right now the independent reports recieved by Linus were that they were pretty much equal. That only left him with the decision of who would be the better maintainer. He is the guy who gets to choose and I think he chose wisely. No offense to Con. I wish him all the best and hope he reconsiders as he matures.
I play games under Linux and I appreciate Con's efforts, but I understand that it is not the OS only focus. He didn't, Ingo does.
All Hail the Benovolent Dictator Linus. May his pragmatic glory shine upon thee.
Hey now, Leonard Nimoy has played more State Fairs than the Beatles.
Um no. It is my job to keep abreast of the IT world. I read articles from all over the web. I read reviews from everywhere, and I have even been forced to use the new OS on more than one occasion. The Dreaded Vista has installed itself within my very family circle. My brother has it, I have used it while visiting his abode. I abhor it. I find nothing apealing in it, hate the UAC with a passion I can only describe as pathological. Every task has me muttering to myself "Fuckin Windows" As an update to XP; I suppose it fits that description. Not one I would personally pay for. If I am buying a new PC (I haven't done so in years, prefer building my own) I would rather have XP preinstalled (Not that it would last long anyway in my house).
My point was, I am now as then a Microsoft Partner (VAR) Microsoft has done nothing to keep me as a customer, nor have me reccomend Vista as an upgrade to my customers. (Short of bribery for favorable blog comments.) That is kinda their job and they failed miserably.
Wow. That was an absolutely quintessential ignorant slashdot post. I'm gonna bookmark this one for future reference.
I find your jump to this conclusion a little far fetched. I am sorry for shattering your misconceptions though.
Perhaps you could enlighten me how Vista has changed your computing experiences for the better. Ooo, I know, you can now play Halo2 (An XBOX game that was a what a 700mhz pc) thanks to DX10 only available on Vista. I can see why you are so excited.
Want me to say something positive about Vista. No problem, it runs Kubuntu great in VMPlayer.
Man I miss mine. And by miss, I mean I should really pull it out of the box again. But since I have long ago thrown away all those issues of Byte and Antic, I'd have to write all the software myself. Don't think I'll ever throw that thing away.Spent 2 summers trying to scrape up the cash for an ST.
Thanks Dad. Can't believe you paid $800 for it. Great Christmas though. Never told him I wanted an IBM, made the mistake of saying computer. Could have been much worse, Like a Tandy./shudder/
Hard to believe it had a color thermal printer in like 1984.
At XP Launch I was at Microsoft Event recieved Brand Spanking new RC1 for my PC, Installed my partners on a laptop during the ride home. Was greatly impressed. Installed it on My PC at home. USed it for 6 months. Reinstalled, used it 3 months Reinstalled. This went on and on, During all this time working as a tech "Repaired" meaning wiped and reinstalled about 45 machines.
At Vista Launch I was sitting here at my Debian Desktop. My Daughter is sitteng at her Kubuntu, My Stubborn Gamer Son is still sitting at his XP desktop. None of us have even a remote interest in purchasing/installing Vista.
I understand your excitement at installing Vista, Xp was a great improvement over 98 and Ungh ME. I was excited too. It'll fade.
Meanwhile new version of my OS comes out. I just apt-get it. No money. No disappointment. No Party. Just a small news item. I've been Windows free for years now. Feels really good. Feels right. Do miss those free pens, keychains and lunches though. Guess I need to get out to a LinuxWorld Conf.
I wont believe it until its confirmed by netcraft.