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Leonard Nimoy to Play Spock in Next Star Trek Movie
mcgrew writes "The AP is reporting that Leonard Nimoy will 'don his famous pointy ears again' in the next Star Trek movie, due out Christmas of next year. From the article: 'He greeted the crowd with a Vulcan salute. Nimoy was joined by the newly named young Spock, "Heroes" star Zachary Quinto [Sylar], who bears an uncanny resemblance to Nimoy. Both Spocks were introduced by the film's director and co-producer, J.J. Abrams.'"
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He'll be sitting in a rocking chair on his porch, playing his Vulcan lyre and stopping only to yell at kids for walking on his lawn.
In my heart, I hope this movie doesn't suck...
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I am really looking forward to this flick. J.J. Abrams pretty much has the midas touch when it comes to producing and directing on television. Love it or hate it, Lost and Alias is/was huge successes. Let's see if he can carry that over to this film.
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Spock: That smell is eminating from my adult diaper into which I've recently and uncontrollably evacuated my bowels.
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Ain't gonna happen. It's Star-trek college days.
It's gonna be animal house meet's star trek and it's gonna end with an interglactic kegger.
Basically lots of green bare breasts, Spock will discover his date is really only 14, and Kirk will be screaming for a road trip while they talk scotty into letting them use his brothers shuttlecraft.
It will all come together at the end when the group crashes the awards ceremony in the "death shuttle" with Kirk dressed as a pirate, sulu in buttless chaps hitting on all the men, and the ceremony ending in disaster.
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I'm certainly hoping he does not get replaced by Welshie.
Highly illogical. Star Trek has been headed by Rick Berman since the latter years of Star Trek: The Next Generation. In that time, Berman did everything possible to destroy the show. Logic dictates that a producer will actual talent could not perform worse than Berman.
Of further note, well-known scifi producer J. Michael Straczynski pitched a similar "reboot" of the Star Trek mythos, suggesting that a good portion of talented scifi producers are of the same line of thought: Berman has done irreparable damage to the franchise already.
Bones: "I don't see any pointy ears on your head boy, but you sound like a Vulcan!"
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That's been Shatner's motto for decades.
Will this be taking place from a nursing home, with Spock reminiscing about his earlier years?
It wouldn't be very logical of him, but he is half human.
Quinto will come to the inescapably logical conclusion that the best way to enact his part with a truly Nimoy-esque Spock character is to go psycho hack saw on Nimoy and EAT HIS BRAIN.
<homer> Mmm, brains... </homer>
Of course it will suck. It's "Teenage Starfleet Cadets". Maybe they won't have exploding toilet seats, but I'm not even that hopeful.
I know they're hoping this can resurrect the franchise, but it was a moronic idea when it was first floated in the early 90s, and it's still a moronic idea.
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If young Kirk/Spock and old Kirk/Spock are in it, this movie will either be about flashbacks or time travel.
AND, we all know which is more likely...
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I love the old Star Trek's and a few of the movies. But the series of remakes and the later movies, IMHO, have been bad at best.
Before they are done with their remakes Spock will be rolling out in Christopher Pike's wheelchair. Now wouldn't that be exciting.
of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... human.
Is Berman the one who turned it into a show for girls and SNAGs?
But, the fact that this ST is going to be prequel is bad.
Other than 'The Godfather', I can't think of one prequel that was good. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a movie version of Animal House set in the future.
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In my heart, I hope this movie doesn't suck...
Using a super advanced statistical technique I like to call "mod 2", I'm afraid it's a statistical certainty that Star Trek XI is going to suck. Sorry, try again with XII.
I still think it's too soon after the Enterprise debacle to be doing anything. I think a good decade ought to pass before anyone lights the fires again. Let some new talent in the door. But this idea in particular is just stupid. I know the underlying notion is to try to get old and new audiences to show up because it will have Kirk and Spock, but have it in their younger years, so as to be hip to the whole new scene, man...
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Sure, "odd-numbered-Star-Treks-suck" is a good rule of thumb, but that doesn't mean they uniformly suck. For example, The Search for Spock (3), in my opinion the best of the odd-numbered films, was better than Nemesis (10) even though Nemesis was even-numbered.
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There's a chance the writer of that article is confused. I read another write up of the same event that said Nimoy would be in the movie, but made no mention of his playing Spock again. I got the impression is would be more of a cameo role - a nod to the fans.
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And yet, even the worst of the best is better than almost all of the worst.
The rule still stands, despite the on oddity.
it is a time travel story! NOOOOooooooo.....
Or spock is telling the story from the academy days.
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An uncanny resemblance between Nimoy and the Sylar guy? I don't see it.
Perhaps you missed the Firefly movie that came out in '05.
Perhaps you mean to say "when they start making more Firefly movies", in which case, amen, brother...
In my heart, I hope this movie doesn't suck...
It certainly won't have any "teeth" to it. Of course it will suck. Or eat shoup.
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There are other creative venues to be explored. Let Star Trek die gracefully!
Sadly, because we still retell the Odyssey and Iliad, I can see this going on ad infinitum.
I hate to say it but I think Star Trek is a case of "Been done to death".
I really liked DS9 because it was frankly so different from STNG. There are so many ways that they could have gone with new Star Trek shows that would have been interesting. What was it like to be a normal person at that time? What was happening on Earth? What would it be like to be a settler on a distant planet? Frankly in the original Star Trek Earth was portrayed as almost a Marxist eden where everybody could just sit around being fat dumb and happy while a few brave souls went out and explored the universe. I loved it as a kid but frankly as an adult I see how it could be very boring to live in a world like that.
Oh well I think it is time for a new Space show. Why not one based on the works of Larry Niven?
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I believe the modified rule is:
mod 2 = suck
mod 5 = ultra-suck (think of star trek 5 and 10)
The last time we heard from him, he was going underground on Romulus. No update since then. Like a lot of minor TNG, characters the writers just forgot about him.
If you think that Picard was a wuss and wasn't fit to command, then you're just an elitist Original Series snob.
How many green chicks did Picard bang? None.
Hell, there was the one episode where the #2 in command was being hit on by the hot brunette, and he did nothing. Even Sulu would have been in there!
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The problem became evident when it was clear that he had nothing beyond what he had done for ST:NG, so just kept going down the same road, endlessly repeating the plot lines with ever-decreasing effectiveness. It was tolerable during the ST:DS9, mainly because the writing was reasonably good and the characters sufficiently interesting to hold our attention.
Both the late-TNG and DS9 have heavy influence from Ronald D. Moore (who now does Battlestar Galactica). Berman and Moore had a falling out during the first season of Voyager. The fact that Star Trek went steeply downhill just then can't be a coincidence.
Personally, I think Moore's gritty style makes for good stories, but ones that aren't necessarily appropriate for the utopian vision of Star Trek. This is particularly evident in DS9's Dominion War arc, with episodes like The Siege of AR-558. OTOH, the same style works really well for BSG.
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Wouldn't this only be news if he WASN'T the one playing Spock?
This only adds to the tons and tons of proof that Spock rocks!
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They should hire that old Asian dude from Heroes to play Sulu's dad
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That sounds like a movie I would pay good money to see.
I'm a old school trekkie (I watched TOS when it came out, sure I was 7, but still), but if they are going to even ATTEMPT to find someone to play Kirk, it had better be as a farce or parody.
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There's a high probability that the movie will start somewhere in the middle, like most of the episodes of ALIAS and MI:III. A "cliffhanger" beginning...or something like that. Personally, I'm a little interested to see the monster film that Abrams is cooking up (trailer was just before Transformers...and the movie doesn't have a real name yet.)
That's a shame, because he's been wanting to play Kirk for quite a while now.
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In my heart, I too hope it will not suck. The reason being, I will end up watching it whether it sucks or not. I am still in therapy for having watched "Nemesis." This will be an odd numbered movie so it should suck in theory. However, "Nemesis" was the worst Star Trek movie I have ever seen so things can only go up from here.
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So if this movie includes "young Spock" does this mean it takes place or at least flashes back to Captain Pike's time, or even the first Enterprise (though Spock didn't serve on that ship in any story I read). The founding of the Federation would make a good story, lots of characters and political views of the world, but few ships and an young federation means not much space battle, so they wouldn't be able to waste too much on special effects and can actually write a good story for once.
Personally, I'm looking more forward to Babylon 5's upcoming flick than this, but we'll give it a shot anyway.
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Surely you are not saying this is a good thing?
Firefly with Whedon is the closest thing to a spiritual heir to TOS that I've seen.
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The utopian notions of Star Trek were dumped after ST:NG. There may have been a bit of lip-service paid to it, but by the time of Star Trek: Insurrection, the Federation as the goody-goody government had been ripped out of the plot line. In fact, I view that entire film as something of a requiem to the last vestiges of Gene Roddenberry's vision.
Still, that might very well have been something that a new batch of writers could have worked with. The sketchy idea of Riker commanding a starship that has mutined against Star Fleet as the Federation plunges into some sort of vague, self-serving dictatorship or even civil war might have been very interesting. You could have kept the Roddenberry-esque ideals alive, kept a good chunk of the longest-running and arguably most popular Star Trek cast (I'm a huge TOS fan, but still, the fact is that more people probably identify with the NG cast now), had plenty of opportunities for battles, espionage, idealism and even exploration. I know we would have had to do without Spiner's Data, but I really do think the character had totally run out of steam anyways.
Hell, barring that, I think there was a damn good argument for going with a movie with Captain Sulu. His all-too-brief glimpses in the Undiscovered Country make me think that at least a good action movie could have been found in there.
So many missed opportunities while Berman was permitted to rotate tired time travel and Borg storylines until even many diehard fans just said "fuck it" and turned to more interest fare. The movies became repetitive and dull (just look at the last couple of movies to see how even the actors had clearly lost any enthusiasm, it was clearly "we're doing it for the money" situation). I think everyone knew the franchise was going down the tubes, and wanted to milk it for whatever was left.
I dunno, maybe the movie will be really great, and won't be some sort of Animal House in Space like so many of us think it's going to be. It's difficult to judge something that isn't even in any kind of meaningful production yet. Still, there's many reasons to figure it will be a disaster, and damn few reasons to think it will revitalize what was once the most successful franchise out there.
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I know. They fired his ass. Isn't it great? :D
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Well, there is an infinitesimal chance that another Firefly will be made. If I remember correctly, the deal left the option open for 2 more movies, -IF- the studio thought they would be viable. Yeah, I know, I know. At least it went out with a heckuva movie.
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Young McCoy: Spock, just what is on your Vulcan mind?
Young Spock: Murder.
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The writers still gave some support to the Federation Utopia in Enterprise, with Cogenitor. They meet an alien species, and instead of charging weapons, they become friends and work together in exploring a nearby star. The episode would have worked without any conflict at all.
Unfortunately, Trip had to do something stupid (why is the dumbest man on the ship also the chief engineer?) and cause a bunch of problems. Throw those bits out and you'll have a wonderful episode that brings back a sense of wonder to space exploration.
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Do you really think they look so much the same?
I'm sure it will be more impressive once Hollywood get's their claws... er, hands on him.
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Hope he gets his own ship...
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I often hear how many consider the tenth movie, Nemesis, the worst of the Star Trek films. I've determined that this is because the ninth movie, Insurrection, was in fact so horrible and vapid that it was excised from the collective consciousness.
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Berman wasn't perfect but if Roddenberry had continued at the helm, STNG would have died in 2 or 3 seasons. It was mostly crap until "Yesterday's Enterprise".
I don't know. Star Trek the Motion Picture was very long and very boring. Nemesis at least had some plot. The funny thing about STTMP is that they "fixed" it later by adding more scenes, thus making it even longer and even more boring.
Don't forget Mission Impossible 3.
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No kiddings guys... I think Leonard Nimoy might really be Vulcan...
It's the only logical explanation for being around for 150 years.
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I think Enterprise was a failed attempt to get Roddenberry's vision back up and running. That's the whole point behind the prequel series. Rather than have another series or movie that showed the Federation falling ever more short of Roddenberry's basic ideas, they thought they could get some mileage out of showing how that vision came into play.
It probably would have worked, too, if they hadn't started sprinkling crap like the Borg, time travel and dumb-looking-like-last-week's-alien aliens into the mix. Their messed-up view of the Vulcans, seriously compromising the canon, was also disasterous.
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I know Roddenberry really hated the direction that Star Trek took once he had lost all meaningful control, but if you look at what he did have involvement in; ST:TOS in particular, you see that he had no problem displaying wars and violence, he simply made the Klingons, Romulans and other baddies the proxies, and always showed the Federation as *reacting* to them, or at least pre-emptively trying to get in their way.
Roddenberry's ideas were noble, but hardly realistic. I think any government with a technologically advanced and well equipped military will always take part in adventurism. They were sending out diplomats on the Five Year Mission, they were sending out a heavily-armed interstellar vessel crewed and commanded by the military. This seems more like the "peaceful" exploration of guys like Admiral Perry.
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It would be news if it would have said: Leonard Nimoy to Play Captain Jean-Luc Picard in the next Star Wars musical.
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Voyager.
I agree but Ring World is pretty far into Known Space. I was thinking the time before the Kzin wars for a start. There would be very little "space" travel in it. How about one about "We made it".
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That's been Shatner's motto for decades.
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Not quite.
The
There you go. It's not true Shatner unless it's overacted.
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I do think you are being a little jaded.
I can see sending out armed space craft since other races where less then friendly at times. Defending yourself is normal.
I look at DS9 as showing the Federation as for lack of a better term human.
It is hard to keep your ideals when your very survival is threatened. It is harder still to keep your ideals when your survival is threatened by those that don't share your ideals to start with.
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Oh, you said canon. I take that back, then.
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Now all that's left is for Captain Kirk to yell "DENNY CRANE!" as he tackles a pissed off alien and beats the hell out of it.
Right, but it means we could reasonably hope for something the equal of ST III.
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Roddenberry wasn't stupid. He knew that the first season wasn't working. That's why they shook up the second season before finally falling into place with the third season. If you recall, the Borg were introduced in the second season. They were actually part of an overall story-arc (S1:The Neutral Zone & S2:Q-Who?) that was supposed to be completed as the season finale. The only problem was that production ran out of money, so we got the cliposode "Shades of Grey" instead.
:-P
All in all, it was probably a good thing that the Borg assault was delayed. While "Best of Both Worlds" caused a few minor continuity problems with "The Neutral Zone" season 1 finale, it greatly benefited from Michael Piller's temporary departure at the end of Season 3. Knowing that BoBW would be the last episode he would ever pen, Piller created an impossible situation for other writers to get out of. It was partially brought about by his frustration with Star Trek production at the time, but the effect was pronounced. BoBW is still remembered as one of the best cliffhangers of all time.
Of course, the story doesn't end there. During the summer months, Roddenberry managed to patch things up with Piller and brought him back on board. As a result, Piller was forced to find a solution to his own impossible plot! Whoops.
Another thing to keep in mind was that The Next Generation was originally launched on a tight schedule, reusing a lot of the work that had gone into the previous Star Trek: Phase II plans. (Phase II was the unproduced Star Trek show that became the Motion Picture.) As a result, all the characters had personalities that were not their own. Troi sat in for Illia, Riker sat in for Decker, Data sat in for Xon (they killed him in the first few minutes of the movie due to Nimoy signing back on), Crusher sat in for Doctor Chapel and McCoy, and Picard was Captain Pike revived. Worf was thrown in to show the resolution of the Klingon issues, Tasha Yar was a strong female character (originally auditioned for by Sirtis while Crosby auditioned for Troi!), and Wesley was intended to be a reflection of Gene as a child.
It took a bit of time and effort for all the characters to finally fall into place. But such is the way of things when productions are pushed into being on a tight schedule. Gene departed this world during the fifth season of TNG. Which explains why TNG started to run out of momentum in Season 6.
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I actually think this could be quite good. All the original Trek characters had really interesting back-stories that have not been thoroughly explored. There's Mr. Spock and Captain Pike. Kirk as the youngest captain ever in Starfleet. Scotty's being drummed out of the command corps.
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In fact, one of my favorite Star Trek books growing up was one entitled Kobayashi Maru, where each of the senior staff takes turns recalling their experiences in Star Fleet academy. It primarily focuses on each of their experiences with the Kobayashi Maru simulation at the academy, but also delves into some personal stories about these folks as young officers about to become Starfleet officers. Sulu's story was extremely moving (at least from my teenage recollections) and well-written. Scotty's was hilarious, and Chekov's was quite good too.
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Then again, I also remember Wesley's time at the academy. Ug, those were horrible TNG episodes! Yes, I know, I have the never-ending human capacity for self-delusion. What is it they say about second marriages? The triumph of hope over experience?
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I've... been... watching... Star Trek... since, uh,... damn I'm so old I forgot how long I've been watching Star Trek. Yes, some of the movies sucked donkey balls and that last TV series REALLY sucked (I must have erased its memory from my brain, don't remember what it was called but I do remember it had a TERRIBLE theme song) but I'm really hoping I die of old age before it does.
You young folks seeing the original TV series see it as hokey, and yes, from the 21st century it IS hokey, but you have to remember that 1966 was an incredibly primitive era. Color TVs had round screens and cost a fortune, if you were in a large city you were lucky to have 4 channels, there were no VCRs, no DVDs, no microwave ovens, no automatically opening doors (pioneered as scifi by Star Trek), no flat screens (also pioneered by Star Trek), no communicators... er, cell phones (ditto), no tricord... uh, blackberries (ditto ditto), no seat belts in cars, no air bags in cars, no lots of stuff. Including CGI. For its time and budget, it was incredibly good.
Star trek was uber-cool to a young nerd. OTOH "Lost in space" was a fucking embarrasment that I watched all of ten minutes of. I hated it when they dragged its rotting corpse up for a movie sequel.
But Star Trek, I am so glad it has lived long and prospered.
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I've recently rewatched ST:TNG seasons 1-7 and DS9 Season 1. Ronald D. Moore had AN influence, but not a HEAVY influence. Star Trek had gone downhill with the beginning of Season 1 of Voyager, the quality stayed around the same throughout the whole series (third bad episodes, third average episodes and third good episodes). Whoever rated this post is obviously a BSG fan.
Was Star Trek all that utopian even in TOS? It seems to me to be not as much utopian as heroic. The ST:TOS Federation, like most countries of the real world, is a nation whose identity certainly involves ideals that, were they fully realized, would characterize a utopia. And, sure, the main (protagonist) characters of TOS are portrayed in a way that mostly shows them a fine embodiments of those ideals. But, despite all the technology and economic plenty of TOS, the rest of the Federation government, and numerous of its citizens, portrayed in TOS exhibit the full range negative attributes of societies throughout time, overwhelming bureaucracy, self-promotion, greed, prejudice, etc. Sure, the crew always wins out, but the crew is also portrayed as being something rather special even within their setting in terms both of their idealism and their competence.
You mean Will Ferrel.
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The idea was first floated in the 70s, and was, IIRC, the first idea for the first Star Trek movie, and the only reason it hasn't happened before is that there was an existing cast that the idea didn't work with and that was more bankable than something completely new like the "academy movie" would entail.
(Whether its a "moronic" idea is, I think, something that isn't apparent at the broad brush level; there are ways it could be executed well, and, as usual with any broad film concept, many more ways that it could suck.)
Voyager. Enough said. Ugh. I used to consider myself a Trekkie before Voyager. After the first season of that, I quit entirely.
Or fucks it, which is more likely when you look at the Denny Crane and Kirk personalities :)
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Personally, I think Moore's gritty style makes for good stories, but ones that aren't necessarily appropriate for the utopian vision of Star Trek.
Hell, that's why I liked DS9, out of all the post ToS shows. Was finally a little gritty again, like the original one. Kirk was a loose cannon captain, rampaging over the rules like a loose cannon on ship deck, during a storm.
Now, is this movie supposed to be about a bunch of kids going off to a boarding school and the one raised by cruel aunt/uncle is marked for greatness? Or did I just imagine that?
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Man, I was really hoping that First Contact would play up the antipathy between Cisko and Picard and have them both go back in time, be forced to fight their common enemy and reconcile, but not like each other. Woulda' made a much more interesting movie, having Cisko not trusting Picard, and even making it seem as if Picard may in fact be working for the Borg. That woulda' been cool!
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I still think they should grab the rights to "Starship Exeter" and do something with that instead of sort of reimagining established characters. Another thought is to take one of the books based on the original series and make that a movie or something. Wasn't there a Commander Piper on a ship called the "Banana Republic" and there were a lot of felineoid type people? Maybe something along those lines for something different.
They never showed the Quentin Tarrantino DS9 episode. :-(
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When's Wrath of Khan II coming out?
Young Star Trek! GOD NO! Trek: The Academy Days, sheesh.
> the newly named young Spock, "Heroes" star Zachary Quinto [Sylar]
Oh, that wouldn't be too bad!
Wasn't Spock like 70 or something in TOS? How could he even be a 30-something professor during Kirk's Academy days, to say nothing of some kind of graduate student.
And didn't Spock help invent the teleporter? Or has that been retconned away now, too, thanks to the bastard of Enterprise?
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I think the Federation as a Utopia still holds true even in the far later seasons of Voyager. Yes, there are humans who leave the federation and do shit like join the Orion Syndicate, but if you live on earth or any number of colonies or civilized worlds, you're guaranteed a relatively comfortable life. Despite section 31 and the dirty dealings therein,
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Enterprise.
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I really hope Berman isn't involved in this movie. I've been a Trekk(ie)/(er) all my life, but, come on, Time Traveling Nazi Aliens? That's when I threw up my hands and gave up hope.
... oh no, young doppleganger is in trouble! Will he survive?? Oh, right, we just saw his 80-year-old self. *sigh* .... start Trek drinking game..."
If Berman is involved, I'm sure his next brilliant move will be having that old Asian guy from Heros show up.
On another note... Nimoy is 76? Wow, the heros of the old days get old quick. Of course, this pretty much sets up the movie as "Old guys sitting around the old captains home, thinking about the old days... queue movie-length flashback
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Star Trek 5 is the 2nd best Trek movie. 4 was the best. What does God need with a starship?
I don't believe that the secondary actors, such as Leonard Nimoy, actually got much in way of royalties from the original series, because that's how The System worked back in the 1960's when the original series was released on TV. And because people strongly identify Nimoy as a Vulcan, Nimoy (along with other actors) got typecast and had difficulty finding alternative roles. Nimoy resented being typecast, even going so far as to write a book entitled something like "I am not Spock" in 1977; he later recanted with a book "I am Spock" in 1995.
So in a way, I'm glad that he's getting paychecks and royalties for the movies, even if they are lousy, because I don't think he's compensated in any way for all of the syndicated reruns and DVD releases of the original series.
Isnt he like 70 years old now?
OTOH, I'm not that big a fan of the original Star Trek, or the Star Trek films, and it's notable that ST:TMP doesn't feel as much like Star Trek as the other films. Perhaps (as has been suggested elsewhere), this is a reason that fans don't like it.
On the other hand, I feel that it is an interesting take on the original crew getting back together after some time, and in a different context (both from their point-of-view and the filmic world in which they've been put). So it's Star Trek, just not as we know it.
Sorry
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Spock: Captain Kirk, this is Spock, please step on the transporter
Scott: Dilithium crystals! Hit by Klingon missiles! No!
McCoy: I'm a doctor
Kirk: Not an actor
McCoy: Not a milkman
Kirk: What does that mean?
McCoy: And i'm sorry, he's dead Jim
Chekov: Photon torpedo..oo.oo..
Kirk: Lieutenant Uhura, open hailing frequencies
Uhura: Yes, Captain Kirk, opening hailing frequencies, Sir
Kirk: Let's boldly go where noone's gone before (chuckles)
Kirk: Beam me up, Mr. Scott, Sulu go to warp
Sulu: Warp three sir
Kirk: No! that will be way too slow
Sulu: Warp four, sir?
Kirk: That still is way too slow
Sulu: Warp five, sir?
Kirk: It still is too damn slow
Sulu: Warp six?
Kirk: It's too damn slow
Sulu: Warp seven
Kirk: It's too damn slow
Chorus: It's too damn slo.oo.oo.ww
Kirk: No no no no no no no, Mr. Chekov, Mr. Chekov
Chekov: I am firing torpedo
Spock: That will not work and will be illogical to me, to me, to meeeeeee from the Hillman Morning Show
Were that I say, pancakes?
Ha, that was one of the things I thought Enterprise did really well, finally presenting the Vulcans as a real species with real problems rather than just inherently better than everyone else in every way, except we get to look down on them for not having our hu-man emotions.
According to http://memory-alpha.org/ Kirk was born 2233, and Spock was born 2232. They are only a year apart.
I still think it's too soon after the Enterprise debacle to be doing anything. I think a good decade ought to pass before anyone lights the fires again.
I think what would work is two federation humans stationed on a Klingon ship just after the Klingons join the federation. It would be the ultimate culture clash, something both WWF fans and nerds will enjoy. On the first episode, a Klingon "encourages" the newbie earthlings to eat a live snake-like worm. Ratings city.
Table-ized A.I.
Syler as Spock brings a whole new meaning to the term "Mind Meld".
Who's playing young Kirk? Is it still Matt Damon?
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Voyager was my favourite of all the myriad series, so obviously not everybody shares your opinions.
On the other hand, it really was tending to get repetitive, and I do eagerly await this new movie. I expect it to be fresh.
It's a bit unfortunate they decided to get rid of EVERYBODY involved with the previous franchise, though. Michael Westmore did a great job on makeup...
Once you've watched Farscape, any news about Star Trek new movies or TV series don't bring the same excitement anymore.
Star Trek is still among my favourite shows, but watching Farscape (and I'd add Firefly too) did raise my expectations. I'm not sure even an un-Bermanized ST franchise would fit them.
Or both...
Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
...and an unscheduled Pon'far, which gives him a stroke. He will end up in a wacky wheelchair like Pike for most of the movie.
Nimoy is notoriously lazy like that.
*BOOOP*
*BOOOOOP*
I don't know why people are complaining about the Borg episodes. It'd be one thing if they had them every week, but the two-parter they had was cool and fit into the continuity very well, in a sort of Time's Arrow way, caused by something in the future we already saw, and, in turn, causing something. Yeah, yeah, that means Starfleet should have heard of them, but that's easy to fanwank...either record-keeping was much laxer, or the time police cleaned up the records at some point in time.
The problem isn't the enemies they did have, it was the enemies they inexplicably didn't have, the Klingons and the Romulans. Seriously. The Andorians were lots of fun as an almost enemy, but we should have had at least one of them. Or even both of them, the Romulans acting covertly (Which we did get once.) and the Klingons acting opening.
And the other problem was the stupid temporal war. You know, that could been the greatest idea ever, if they'd actually done it. Just hinting at the damn thing is stupid, have some actual known villain that was actually seen on screen go back in time and manipulate things, specifically because of something Archer was going to do.
I don't know what villain, there was that guy who stole a time machine once, as did Janeway, so it's not like it would have to be someone with advanced technology. The Borg have time travel technology, but would have made a very bad manipulate-the-past villain, because the Borg cannot do subtle manipulation whatsoever. The Marquis might have been fun and nicely morally ambivalent, except Voyager already did it. I dunno, but someone from the 'present' ST universe should have been used if they were going to have a 'temporal cold war', not someone we have no idea of in a plotline that's never wrapped up except to say 'it never happened'.
And I agree with you about the Vulcans. Yet another thing that was patched up to something resembling actual canon in season four, along with the Klingons.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
I'm somewhat disturbed by the appearance of both a young Spock and an old Spock in the same movie, as well as a potential for an old Kirk (see article). I'm worried this is going to end up like Star Trek: Generations or All Good Things... (the TNG finale).
Yeah. You know Star Trek is dead when fans are more excited about a redo of a 20-year-old series whose plotline is borrowed from the Book of Mormon.
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Spock, Sr: It's 106 parsecs to Rigel 7, we got a full tank of antimatter, half a crystal of dilithium, it's dark, and we're wearing pointy ears.
Spock, Jr: Hit it.
"Hey, the third matrix movie would have been good except for the plot,story, and acting." --AC
I'm so disgusted with this trend in Sci-Fi recently. I don't know about you, but I have NO INTEREST IN PREQUELS! I already know the story, and as a fan who has spent years caring about the characters, I want to know what happens next. I think these people who have these franchises are too afraid to go where Battlestar Galactica is going - treating the viewer with respect and dignity while telling a gripping story that dares to actually move towards a natural conclusion. I'm tired of people insisting that we tread water with these franchises, I want to see the fall of the Federation and the rise of the Klingon Empire, I want to see new crews and tense space battles where something more than just the main character's hair gets out of sorts. In short, I want to see a continuation of TNG (preferably starting with that crew as a segue to what's next in the story) where life is not perfect and everything is on the line. Am I alone in this?? NO MORE PREQUELS!!!! MOVE THE STORIES FORWARD!!!!
Close, but not quite. Shatner would actually run several words together and THEN pause. ("We...aretheCreator!") The infamously-repeated meter of emphasizing Every! Single! Word! is a lot closer to the technique of Avery Brooks, who overacted the role of Commander Sisko on DS9.
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Both TOS and TNG had several moments* where other races/species (notably the Wussies of WUSS-11) complained that the Enterprise and the Federation were war-like since they had a lot of armament, were in conflict with the Klingons/Romulans/what have you... To which the respective Captain (or other representative) would respond, "Hey, these are defensive weapons!" Of course any competent agent of their government would say the same, whether the government be the United States, England, Iran, or North Korea.
It was this kind of moment that gave Star Trek its real-world smell, not Gene Roddenberry's preaching about a future where money is worthless, yet Poker is a favorite past time.
* (Sorry, I am not going to look up real examples. If pressed, I might do so, but I think everyone here can relate.)
Dark Reflection
When you can travel from star to shining star, you don't go to war anymore, as you no longer have any lack of resources to go to war over. You don't even go to war for some irrational reason, as someone with more resources will just eradicate you.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
The "Get a life" sketch showed just how much dignity who has. It was also hilarious.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
Actually I was thinking cary elwes, but he's too old.
moved over to Tim Allen, but they already made a Star Trek parody with him. and he's WAY too old.
After that, I give up. If there is a actor that could do a decent Kirk parody of the right age, I don't know who it would be.
As to playing a straight Kirk...Impossible. Kirk was a happy accident that could not be repeated.
Why, yes, I AM a Pagan Libertarian.
Maybe that guy on Psych? He has a Seth Greene vibe going.
I drank what? -- Socrates
We are DOOMED!
Someone say OMG! ponies! This is better than any "April Fools" joke I've ever seen on this site, and so frankly terrifying as a real story. Seriously, is the new ship in this movie going to be the NCC-0401?
Jeepers.
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Toro
... realistic"
Maybe so but the guy was a WW II bomber pilot. He probably saw his fair share of carnage and hoped for a better future.
Don't forget 7 of 9... What a remarkable body!
Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
I'm still hoping for an Enterprise C movie or series. There has been little information about it other than what we saw in "Yesterday's Enterprise".
That was Scorpius, you insensitive clod!!
Thank you those of you who pointed out the ghastly possibility (probability?) that the story will involve time travel. I HATE time travel!! And I know you all do, too. At least, you should, if you love science 1/50th as much as you love scifi.
Now, let's all get together and email any and all persons responsible for some part of the movie, and beg them, "Please no time travel, it's lame!!"
Thanks.
I find it telling that nobody has had the guts or the wherewithal to comment back to me directly with their concerns. From my perspective, I can only think that the reason for this is that there is nothing which can be argued. And there isn't. It's just knee-jerk reaction bourn of automatic emotional responses baked into people through the society we live in. Whether or not one is able to rise above the programming to ask, "Why do I feel the need to jerk my knee?" is what separates the warriors from the cattle.
If you are afraid to look reality in the face and you decide to turn away and not think about it, then that is a Choice. That's fine. It's your choice to make. But it should be noted that the battle on this world right now is one of awareness, and every choice you make today determines who you become tomorrow.
Those with the courage of a lion will not have the fate of a mouse.
-FL
I've been watching DS9 on DVD. Is Berman responsible for all these Vic Fontaine episodes? Because I'm really get sick of them. Last night I watched the "Oceans 11" episode. I mean, Seriously?!? WTF?
Kinda reminds me of that Japanese zombie porn pic I once saw. Half-rotten zombies aren't supposed to look cute...
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
By this standard, all Western nations are utopias.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.