Root for MS to make a boatload of cash in the Console market. Stay with me now, If PC OS sales (or PC sales) drop and Xbox's are in every home, Bill makes it primary biz.
I know, I know, we all "hate" MS, but they will not go away. They might diversify and restructure. DirectX is not "evil" tech, games run smooth, almost never crash on an Xbox. Has your XboX been infected with spyware/viri, ever? I personally hope they end up in more devices and get off our PCs. We have to make it profitable for them though. If I've got to keep an MS partition for games, I think I'd rather it be in my Xbox than on my "Work"Station.
BTW, I don't keep a WINDOWs partition, I pay for Cedega, but I hear/read a lot of us slashdiots do.
I have an 8 1/2 yr old. She draws no distinction from a game on the HardDrive/CD/Web/Gamecube.
She likes some games, Hates others. She like multiplayer. She likes single player. She likes Realistic, She likes cartoony. She likes cute. She hates Scary.
Except for that last one, I find her representative of the overall community. It's the GAMEPLAY! Not the Genre, Not Multi-Single Player, Not the Graphics, Not the Medium, Not the Cutscenes. pause.
eg.. LOTR 2 towers on GC. She loves playing co-op hates the 5 minute cutscenes./pause
Whatever the medium, we're gamers, we buy games. This "prediction" is about as good as saying in 1984 that PC games will encounter a "major shift" away from being shipped on floppy disks and using single button joysticks.
My Salary is a constant. Cost of Hardware is roughly constant. Linux = FREE. Win2000 Server around $1100
I therefore have proved Linux TCO is $1100 lower than Win2k Server.
I should add, our linux Servers have considerably more software (which is $0), so if you add in non crossplatform equivalents it looks considerably worse for MS.
Wish I could get rid of that last Win2k, but It's still doin the job. Hacked/Cracked twice for a total of 2hrs in 5 yrs, but No Data Loss/Damage so I keep it humming along.(Has previous programmers Custom Apps/Servers which I can't rewrite for linux until it is neccessary.)
#1 Use GPL code & librarys to do rapid development. It costs the company nothing & you get a near complete app which needs further development.#2
Impress him with the features and ease of use/cost.
#4 Explain that it must be rewritten at a significant toolkit/developer cost or for nothing, we can release it under the terms of the GPL.
His next question is what are our requirements under the GPL? Every CD ships with the source code, keep copyrights & GPL notices, done. In my case, He agrees, since we are a hardware house and his money isn't made with CD sales anyway but with device sales.
YMMV, he wants to know whats in it for him, NEVER FORGET Your time costs him money.
This whole thing smacks of remember us, SONY, EQ2, SWG? We have subscribers/dupers/money/auctions/ways to eat up all your free time (and ~25 bucks a month) too.
Good thing too. I thought everybody had left for WoW.
There is room on the web for a print layout style. So some of you don't like it, color me shocked.
Every once in a while its refreshing. Fullscreen the browser and it's similar to reading an article from a periodical (or Magazine, yes that's where zine comes from, damn kids/grumpy old man.)
I thought it was stylistic, and more to the point it made me turn the page past this article to the next. For contrast, you can just open the http://www.gnu.org/ site to balance out your Web Shui. There all better.
Ok maybe a little insightful.
Wow look at that. It's like I paused my stream of conciousness.
Whoa extra emphasis on the fact that I'm changing the paragraph.
If only someone would be kind enough to show you then maybe you wouldn't make my brain hurt so much. Yeah thats it. Nobody loved you, I get it. Her ya go man, if you type br enclosed in less than and greater than symbols that will cause a new line. If you type p also enclosed that will cause a new paragraph.
Its pretty easy you can even copy paste em from the bottom of the form where it says Allowed Html.
If You switch the numbers for IE & Firefox, It perfectly describes my surfing behaviour.
87% of the time I am using Firefox on Windows & on Linux.
8% of time I HAVE to use IE. (Media/Updates)
.5% of time some Linux app opens Mozilla Browser by default. Cedega/Point2Play I'm looking at you.
Occasionally for compat testing I use KonQueror, Glinks and links (or if I am stuck in a console).
Sorry Opera, Don't feel the need.
All of these numbers are meaningless to anyone but me. Same goes for their numbers. Write your sites to the standards and who cares what accesses it, just be happy anyone did.
Only 4% of those questioned expected their use of open source software to reduce over the next five years, while 19% were unsure at this stage of the potential influence of open source on their company's IT strategy.
So 23% interviewed/surveyed worked in Redmond?
Seriously, you'd have to be still using only a typewriter, to not see the increase of open source in day to day business. (Although, most home users would be suprised at how many aplliances in their homes already run open source software, so why not biz users too.)
I must take this comment to say thank you. That was +5 informative. Cleared it all up for me.
No thanks. I gotta compile all of my own source, I don't wanna compile everybody else's too. I know binary packages are available, just not as many as debian. Nvidia card wasted.
I guess I still need one of those some-linux-done-me-wrong songs to play out before I'll jump in bed with the devil. Plus I dig cumpulsory sharing, It reminds me of kindergarten, teachers forcing the bullys to share their toys with the meek.
We do not like this. Any of it. We will resist. You will lose money.
How about a little lipservice to the **AAs and you start valuing your customers.
If you build it to play fair, We will buy it, Studios will distribute to the MARKET. Don't let the media producers dictate to you the formats.
This is a little fuzzy in Sony's case, I understand. But they know it too. Sony sells music on all formats not just their own atrac or whatever its called. DVD & UMD, CD and ATRAC.
The Consumer is in charge, like it or not. If you fence us in, we will let you starve. There are far too many options available to us to try to force an exclusive one now.
You guys are as worse as the Microsoft PR machine.
Nice. Do you know why I am replying to your post sir? Slept through english, right. This time we'll let you off with just a warning. Don't get caught by the grammar police again today or we'll be forced to give you a ticket.
I can tell you that all I care about is getting the job done. I could care less whether that solution is MS or linux. Whatever works.
What works right now, won't always work in a Windows world.
Linux Zealots aren't born, we evolve from niave little IT workers like you. It's true, I was like you once, trusting, happy my computer worked at all. Thanking Bill everyday for rebooting my computer to "RESET" it when it got "Confused".
After "learning" VB and re-learning it in.Net and watching my expensively developed App get broken by.Net 1.1, I had had enough finally. ( 10 yrs as PC TECH (Wipe,REINSTALL,Repeat) is enough for most to switch, but not me, I had to be a programmer too. )
None too soon, I might add, otherwise I'd probably be pulling my hair out over some unfixable Windows CE bug, rather then shipping my Embedded Linux Controllers.
We'll send him 10 - 12 of the highest-moderated ones and post his answers next Monday.
If you go back and look at the linked article you will see he asked 10 of the top moderated questions.
I was personally waiting for his answer to this one.
I'd like to step aside from all the hardware and software questions people are going to throw at you and focus on a more tangible topic: footware. When someone like yourselves accept a job stomping on baby ducks all day, do you invest in new boots, or do you just come to work in whatever old shoes you have in your closet?
Appreciatively,
Seth
Does anyone think that we actually can develop this technology successfully?
Obviously, I do.
Its like shooting down a bullet with another bullet.
No its like shooting down a ballistic missle with a bullet/laser/Laser guided bullet.
All the Missile Shield test results I've seen have been huge failures.
All the Military/DOD "Tests" have been failures, even the rigged ones. They rushed implementation due to an Executive order to Deploy NOW. That's what keeps causing the failures. The DOD should give up & fund private research in this area.
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PC gaming was essentially farcical until the arrival of the 486 DX2 66Mhz and either Wing Commander or Doom, depending on your point of view.
If you exclude the GREAT Infocom games, and exclude my Atari 800XL from PC then I agree.
Frankly, after writing BASIC games out of ANTIC & other mags that looked better than the NES crap, I was dissapointed in the graphics on consoles for quite a few years. I do have some fond memories of a Sub Sim on my old 286 that was pretty good. Oh yeah lest we forget CGA Spiderman.
"They are a lot more liberal -- quietly liberal -- in releasing chunks of their code to the developer community," says Mr. Singleton
You know how hard it is to get source out of those linux guys, Thank You Microsoft for saving us from our multi-vendor lock out.
of Tommy Hilfiger, who said he has greater confidence in a single vendor in controlling the evolution of its products. "They jumped through a lot of hoops to help us out."
Translation:
PAYOLA and Deep Discounts. Sent out a few FAEs to help out Tommy boy. Pretty tuff for the KDE guys to do, but RedHat not able?
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Not at the center at the END. MilliWays, great Beef with a spectacular show.
I know, I know, we all "hate" MS, but they will not go away. They might diversify and restructure. DirectX is not "evil" tech, games run smooth, almost never crash on an Xbox. Has your XboX been infected with spyware/viri, ever? I personally hope they end up in more devices and get off our PCs. We have to make it profitable for them though. If I've got to keep an MS partition for games, I think I'd rather it be in my Xbox than on my "Work"Station.
BTW, I don't keep a WINDOWs partition, I pay for Cedega, but I hear/read a lot of us slashdiots do.
She likes some games, Hates others. She like multiplayer. She likes single player. She likes Realistic, She likes cartoony. She likes cute. She hates Scary.
Except for that last one, I find her representative of the overall community. It's the GAMEPLAY! Not the Genre, Not Multi-Single Player, Not the Graphics, Not the Medium, Not the Cutscenes. pause.
eg.. LOTR 2 towers on GC. She loves playing co-op hates the 5 minute cutscenes./pause
Whatever the medium, we're gamers, we buy games. This "prediction" is about as good as saying in 1984 that PC games will encounter a "major shift" away from being shipped on floppy disks and using single button joysticks.
Cost of Hardware + Cost of Software + My Salary.
My Salary is a constant. Cost of Hardware is roughly constant. Linux = FREE. Win2000 Server around $1100
I therefore have proved Linux TCO is $1100 lower than Win2k Server.
I should add, our linux Servers have considerably more software (which is $0), so if you add in non crossplatform equivalents it looks considerably worse for MS.
Wish I could get rid of that last Win2k, but It's still doin the job. Hacked/Cracked twice for a total of 2hrs in 5 yrs, but No Data Loss/Damage so I keep it humming along.(Has previous programmers Custom Apps/Servers which I can't rewrite for linux until it is neccessary.)
It costs the company nothing & you get a near complete app which needs further development.#2
Impress him with the features and ease of use/cost.
#4 Explain that it must be rewritten at a significant toolkit/developer cost
or
for nothing, we can release it under the terms of the GPL.
His next question is what are our requirements under the GPL? Every CD ships with the source code, keep copyrights & GPL notices, done. In my case, He agrees, since we are a hardware house and his money isn't made with CD sales anyway but with device sales.
YMMV, he wants to know whats in it for him, NEVER FORGET Your time costs him money.
Still not, damn.
Good thing too. I thought everybody had left for WoW.
Feeling strange need... to.. play.. Guild Wars.
Every once in a while its refreshing. Fullscreen the browser and it's similar to reading an article from a periodical (or Magazine, yes that's where zine comes from, damn kids /grumpy old man.)
I thought it was stylistic, and more to the point it made me turn the page past this article to the next. For contrast, you can just open the http://www.gnu.org/ site to balance out your Web Shui. There all better.
Wow look at that. It's like I paused my stream of conciousness.
Whoa extra emphasis on the fact that I'm changing the paragraph.
If only someone would be kind enough to show you then maybe you wouldn't make my brain hurt so much. Yeah thats it. Nobody loved you, I get it. Her ya go man, if you type br enclosed in less than and greater than symbols that will cause a new line. If you type p also enclosed that will cause a new paragraph.
Its pretty easy you can even copy paste em from the bottom of the form where it says Allowed Html.
SpyWare Friendly?
Forced Muliple windows & entries in the taskbar.
Lest we forget c.)Took out the trash.
87% of the time I am using Firefox on Windows & on Linux.
8% of time I HAVE to use IE. (Media/Updates)
Occasionally for compat testing I use KonQueror, Glinks and links (or if I am stuck in a console).
Sorry Opera, Don't feel the need.
All of these numbers are meaningless to anyone but me. Same goes for their numbers. Write your sites to the standards and who cares what accesses it, just be happy anyone did.
#1 Takes 15 minutes to install the OS from LiveCD.
#2 apt-get install kdevelop3*
done. You'll thank me later. Pretty much any Debian will suit your needs, and get you out of this 10hr maintainability problem.
Course you could be one of those sadistic Gentoo users.
Did ya try here?http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=3 .2/download.html
10Hrs, Wow. I have only hit this mark creating/transcoding DVDs. Although Trolltech's QT can be a bitch to compile on a slow machine.
So 23% interviewed/surveyed worked in Redmond?
Seriously, you'd have to be still using only a typewriter, to not see the increase of open source in day to day business. (Although, most home users would be suprised at how many aplliances in their homes already run open source software, so why not biz users too.)
No thanks. I gotta compile all of my own source, I don't wanna compile everybody else's too.
I know binary packages are available, just not as many as debian.
Nvidia card wasted.
I guess I still need one of those some-linux-done-me-wrong songs to play out before I'll jump in bed with the devil. Plus I dig cumpulsory sharing, It reminds me of kindergarten, teachers forcing the bullys to share their toys with the meek.
Although they do rock I'll give ya that one.
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158566&t hreshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=88&mode=thread&cid=13 283304
I cut my hair, but parts of me are occasionally smelly, despite the frequency of bathing.
How about a little lipservice to the **AAs and you start valuing your customers.
If you build it to play fair, We will buy it, Studios will distribute to the MARKET. Don't let the media producers dictate to you the formats.
This is a little fuzzy in Sony's case, I understand. But they know it too. Sony sells music on all formats not just their own atrac or whatever its called. DVD & UMD, CD and ATRAC.
The Consumer is in charge, like it or not. If you fence us in, we will let you starve. There are far too many options available to us to try to force an exclusive one now.
Nice. Do you know why I am replying to your post sir? Slept through english, right. This time we'll let you off with just a warning. Don't get caught by the grammar police again today or we'll be forced to give you a ticket.
What works right now, won't always work in a Windows world.
Linux Zealots aren't born, we evolve from niave little IT workers like you. It's true, I was like you once, trusting, happy my computer worked at all. Thanking Bill everyday for rebooting my computer to "RESET" it when it got "Confused".
After "learning" VB and re-learning it in .Net and watching my expensively developed App get broken by .Net 1.1, I had had enough finally. ( 10 yrs as PC TECH (Wipe,REINSTALL,Repeat) is enough for most to switch, but not me, I had to be a programmer too. )
None too soon, I might add, otherwise I'd probably be pulling my hair out over some unfixable Windows CE bug, rather then shipping my Embedded Linux Controllers.
We'll send him 10 - 12 of the highest-moderated ones and post his answers next Monday.
If you go back and look at the linked article you will see he asked 10 of the top moderated questions.
I was personally waiting for his answer to this one.
I'd like to step aside from all the hardware and software questions people are going to throw at you and focus on a more tangible topic: footware. When someone like yourselves accept a job stomping on baby ducks all day, do you invest in new boots, or do you just come to work in whatever old shoes you have in your closet? Appreciatively, Seth
ha
Obviously, I do.
Its like shooting down a bullet with another bullet.
No its like shooting down a ballistic missle with a bullet/laser/Laser guided bullet.
All the Missile Shield test results I've seen have been huge failures.
All the Military/DOD "Tests" have been failures, even the rigged ones. They rushed implementation due to an Executive order to Deploy NOW. That's what keeps causing the failures. The DOD should give up & fund private research in this area.
If you exclude the GREAT Infocom games, and exclude my Atari 800XL from PC then I agree.
Frankly, after writing BASIC games out of ANTIC & other mags that looked better than the NES crap, I was dissapointed in the graphics on consoles for quite a few years. I do have some fond memories of a Sub Sim on my old 286 that was pretty good. Oh yeah lest we forget CGA Spiderman.
You know how hard it is to get source out of those linux guys, Thank You Microsoft for saving us from our multi-vendor lock out.
of Tommy Hilfiger, who said he has greater confidence in a single vendor in controlling the evolution of its products. "They jumped through a lot of hoops to help us out."
Translation:
PAYOLA and Deep Discounts. Sent out a few FAEs to help out Tommy boy. Pretty tuff for the KDE guys to do, but RedHat not able?