Your comments notwithstanding, even though an EVM and ATM are different in scope and function, wouldn't one think that Diebold would have reused much of their ATM-derived knowledge when launching a new product line? Engineers *hate* to build entire systems from scratch-- it's much more efficient and effective to modify and improve upon existing designs, regardless of what you're building.
No running on uneven terrain?
No bicycling on recently chipsealed asphalt?
No teeter-totters, swings, merry-go-rounds?
No plugging things into wall sockets?
No fireworks, no rollar blades, no trampolines?
No amusement parks, no swimming, no climbing of trees?
No sports, no model airplanes, no sleepovers?
Man, I'd hate to be your kid.
What people fail to realize is that kids are just little people, with worse risk-analysis skills. The key is teaching them how to deal with risk, not regimenting their lives to aviod it.
Think about it as a techical analogy (because/. loves those):
In a computer system, would you rather have everything 'dangerous' hidden away, a la Windows; or would you prefer to have the full ability to do anything you wished, even if it might be detrimental, simply for the joy of learning how it works, a la Linux?
If a kid grows up with 'Windows' parenting, when he's dumped into the real 'Linux' world, he'll be totally unable to make any educated dicisions about his well-being and happiness.
No offense intended, but that's got to be the dumbest thing I've read all day. Admittedly, it's early, and you might still be outdone, but holy shit, dude. Would you have wanted to grow up this way?
How about instead of rigidly controlling a child's diet until they graduate from high school, you teach them how to eat correctly? No one wants to be fat, after all.
To mix some metaphores, don't give a man a fish today, and he'll not gain the weight right now, but teach a man not to ever catch fish, and he'll never gain the weight at all.
Sure would've sucked to live in nearby, non-buried, wood and drywall Colorado Springs, in the event that the USSR *did* try dropping a nuke on Cheyenne Mtn there.
IMO, the exhibitionist streak stems from two sources:
First-- The actual whores, who want to entice someone, anyone, to have sex with them. (Please email me, girls!)
Second-- The pseudo-whores, who wish to bolster their self-esteem by attracting, then turning down, members of the opposite sex. Basically, they're like usenet trolls, but with more sex appeal.
Does anyone else fear that someday, the only export of America will be paperwork, and pencil pushers? Lawyers, managers, marketing, wheeling-dealing paperwork.
It seems like everyone I meet these days feels like they aren't making enough money, and they want to get into the paper pushing business, so they can buy bigger houses, faster cars, and vapid relationships. So, they go off and spend a big huge pile of money so learn the secret behind making $50k more a year by the addition of initials to their business cards.
Let me posit this: If graduate degrees, and college degrees in general, really make people smarter/faster/better/more virile, etc, like so many have claimed them to do, then why, please tell me *why,* they do such a terrible job of running the world?
Just look out and behold what's happening these days. Every senator, congressman, MP, business titan, military commander, banker, and judge has a graduate degree, and look at the choices they make!
It's a vicious circle-- people want to change and repair a broken system, a system that's devouring the planet and its population at an unprecedented rate, so they pay a huge amount of money for the system to educate them!
I think he was ragging on both. One would think that Bush's high-dollar education would have helped him make dicisions that weren't so... catastrophic.
In fact, Chuck P. based that premise on the real life Ford Motor Co's "Pinto." They had a nasty habit of bursting into flames when rear-ended. Their legal department decided it was cheaper to pay off the survivors than to recall the whole line. IIRC, some memo got out that cost them a whole bunch in a rather large class-action suit. I really don't know the details past what I saw on some pseudo-documentary several years ago. I'm sure if you're interested, Google will reveal all the dark secrets.
I've got something similar myself. The only thing I've ever found that helps is encouraging your users to occassional archive their old stuff. I've got a little shell script that looks at the size of the PSTs in their network shares, and emails them instructions on splitting their old stuff off when they hit >500MB.
The only education programs that ever seem to get increased funding are things like abstinance-only sex education. And abstinance-only drug education. And abstinance-only debate classes.
I should have prefaced that of course niether of the inventions I mentioned were especially developed by the government of the American nation. However, the economic projects of the 1930s, under FDR, did greatly assist in the delivery of these inventions to the world. The Works Progress Administration, for instance, built hundreds power plants, and pioneered many of the distribution techniques which have made electricity widely and cheaply available.
What many American citizens have forgotten is that the government was intended to be a tool of our will. Unfortunately, as with any nation, modern or historical, we are profoundly vulnerable to ignorance and fear. I agree that a scared man holding a gun is horribly dangerous, and as an American I greatly loath that this is how we're being perceived.
The point I was trying to make, and I fear may have been distracted by my mentioning technology, is that America, despite its current problems, is still not the evil vampiric nation, with lunatics poised to launch ICBMs at anyone who should displease us. The majority of citizens do *not* support the war in Iraq, nor do they support the president. The vast majority of citizens vigorously reject the recent anti-terror laws. A huge majority of citizens think we should engage Iran diplomatically.
Every American I talk to, conservative or liberal, Democrat or Republican (or 'other'), is incredibly dismayed at how the Bush administration has squandered America's position in the world, eroded our constitution, broken nearly three hundred years of American tradition by pre-emptively invading a sovreign nation, and dangerously blurred the lines between church and state.
People can call America a bully if they like, but the fact is that every country that's ever existed has been one at one point or another. Even if our current administration has run off the rails, I have confidence that the national identity and ideals of the American citizens will eventually correct the balance.
(As long as we're not sent to Guantanamo first, damnit...)
And, honestly, to say we're just a big bully is a bit harsh-- how about the polio vaccine? What about electricity? As a country, the US has made a few very important contributions which have made all of civilization better.
You know, I'm not sure that it's really so much the langauge, but the utter crap that people write in it. It's...disappointing....to download what you think might be a cool/useful/whatever program, only to find that it's a barely functional VB nightmare that crashes if your screen resolution is set wrong.
Of course, it all depends on the programmer, in the same way that, say, carpenters can do both good work and bad. Good just takes so much longer, and is a lot more challenging.
However, to rebut:
I don't like the frantic pace American society has taken on with this increase in business efficiency. Why am I now expected to work 60 hours a week, do all my eating in my car as I go from one job to the next, take my phone calls in thiry second snatches, and come home feeling exhausted and beat up every night? And, I've got a *good* job.
My wages haven't increased in parity with Wal-Mart's profits, and I don't see many Chinese seed-money startups. In fact, I see huge amounts of middle class Americans losing their good manufacturing jobs, forced to work for half their previous pay in a Burger King, slinging burgers to the children of the nuveau riche.
How about that CEOs are now making more than 10,000 times as much as their employees, and still laying people off to cut costs? How come employers don't have the money to pay American citizens anymore, and instead keep Mexican immigrants working like indentured servants, paying them only enough to ensure they can't leave, keeping them busy enough to make sure they can't find a better job?
What is of this economic malaise, where oil companies are bringing in record profits, and more and more citizens are having to make choices between gas or upkeep on their homes? How about the fact that we're now all expected to have our cell phones at all times, constantly negotiating, selling, buying, while the traditions of our culture are stripped more and more away by everyone always working, and never having enough money?
I know that Wally World isn't to blame for all these things, but the culture of "bigger! cheaper! faster!" is actively hurting the country that a large amount of us live in, and frankly, I want it to stop. I'd rather pay an extra dollar for a tool, knowing it was made by a guy who's getting a decent wage, who can take a few days off to spend with his family. I'd like my money to go to a gas company that realizes colluding to fix prices only harms the very people who are the "bread and butter" of the industry.
Basically, I'd like to see a bit of this greed rolled back. For people to realize again that there are more important things than having the most money, the most conspicuous consumption, the fastest car, the biggest house. I'd like to be able to clock out at five, and not have people calling me at nine that night, forcing me back into the business world. I'd prefer they stop building big-box warehouse stores in my town, because in twenty years, I doubt any of them will still be in business, and their hulks will be fucking ugly.
Actually, slavery was accepted by some, while others found it "bad." Both of these are opinions, and a neutral article ideally would show both...
Also, there really no way to objectivelly declare what's morally wrong, as it varies over people and cultures, and depends on opinions, and non-fact based convictions.
Ahem, actually, I think our species has the ability to objectively define slavery as "Bad." I say this because of this logical construct:
All cultures have some form of "The Golden Rule," which is to say that virtually all people agree that you should not treat other people in a way you would not want to be treated yourself.
Slavery is of course enforced with the threat of violence.
Most people do not want violence committed against them.
Therefore, any rational person would conclude that slavery is bad.
And, lastly, those who would deny the innate evil of keeping other humans as slaves obviously have vested interests in slavery, which they feel are more important than basical social mores that have been in place since antiquity.
Just because people in the past (and present) still carry on barbaric behavior does not make that behavior neutral to the ideas of right and wrong. Barbarism is always wrong, as many barbarians have so decisively learned.
The same thing could be said for rape, murder, genocide, robbery, intimidation, etc. Just because there are adherents to a particular type of wrong behavior does not legitimize that behavior as "morally neutral."
Every opinion does not deserve equal time or creedence.
You can hardly blame the companies for the sins of the city planners. If you let the fox into the chicken coop, do you blame the fox for what happens next?
Sure, but you can't blame me for what I do to the fox after I catch the little bastard.
Did NPR report that US deaths in Iraq hit a 2-year low in March? Or did they report there was a "civil war" in Iraq? One of those is factually true, the other is not. Which of them makes one "better" informed? I guess it's a matter of opinion.
So, now, all this "Good news!" from Iraq that the liberal media aren't reporting is that for one month in a three year war, our causualty rate slowed a bit? Not stopped, but just slowed down? Oh, goody. We've turned a corner, victory is at hand. We're obviously in the last throes of the insurgency, and the damn media just can't stop concentrating on all those people and places that keep blowing up.
Crap on a cracker. Don't use the words "logical fallacy" unless you know exactly what they mean.
"Hot is cold" "The earth is flat" -- these are logical fallacies.
"Software company X's products have diminished in quality over the years" -- this is just someone's opinion.
Just because you disagree with an opinion doesn't make it illogical.
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Your comments notwithstanding, even though an EVM and ATM are different in scope and function, wouldn't one think that Diebold would have reused much of their ATM-derived knowledge when launching a new product line? Engineers *hate* to build entire systems from scratch-- it's much more efficient and effective to modify and improve upon existing designs, regardless of what you're building.
No running on uneven terrain?
/. loves those):
No bicycling on recently chipsealed asphalt?
No teeter-totters, swings, merry-go-rounds?
No plugging things into wall sockets?
No fireworks, no rollar blades, no trampolines?
No amusement parks, no swimming, no climbing of trees?
No sports, no model airplanes, no sleepovers?
Man, I'd hate to be your kid.
What people fail to realize is that kids are just little people, with worse risk-analysis skills. The key is teaching them how to deal with risk, not regimenting their lives to aviod it.
Think about it as a techical analogy (because
In a computer system, would you rather have everything 'dangerous' hidden away, a la Windows; or would you prefer to have the full ability to do anything you wished, even if it might be detrimental, simply for the joy of learning how it works, a la Linux?
If a kid grows up with 'Windows' parenting, when he's dumped into the real 'Linux' world, he'll be totally unable to make any educated dicisions about his well-being and happiness.
!!!!!
No offense intended, but that's got to be the dumbest thing I've read all day. Admittedly, it's early, and you might still be outdone, but holy shit, dude. Would you have wanted to grow up this way?
How about instead of rigidly controlling a child's diet until they graduate from high school, you teach them how to eat correctly? No one wants to be fat, after all.
To mix some metaphores, don't give a man a fish today, and he'll not gain the weight right now, but teach a man not to ever catch fish, and he'll never gain the weight at all.
Sure would've sucked to live in nearby, non-buried, wood and drywall Colorado Springs, in the event that the USSR *did* try dropping a nuke on Cheyenne Mtn there.
Yeah, just keep trusting the government. They *care* about you and your children.
IMO, the exhibitionist streak stems from two sources:
First-- The actual whores, who want to entice someone, anyone, to have sex with them. (Please email me, girls!)
Second-- The pseudo-whores, who wish to bolster their self-esteem by attracting, then turning down, members of the opposite sex. Basically, they're like usenet trolls, but with more sex appeal.
Awwww, c'mon. Haven't you ever snuck into a blind guy's apt. and rearranged all his furniture? Hilarious-- like watching a pinball table.
I don't think it's so much a matter of tolerance, more a matter of overcrowding.
Does anyone else fear that someday, the only export of America will be paperwork, and pencil pushers? Lawyers, managers, marketing, wheeling-dealing paperwork.
It seems like everyone I meet these days feels like they aren't making enough money, and they want to get into the paper pushing business, so they can buy bigger houses, faster cars, and vapid relationships. So, they go off and spend a big huge pile of money so learn the secret behind making $50k more a year by the addition of initials to their business cards.
Let me posit this: If graduate degrees, and college degrees in general, really make people smarter/faster/better/more virile, etc, like so many have claimed them to do, then why, please tell me *why,* they do such a terrible job of running the world?
Just look out and behold what's happening these days. Every senator, congressman, MP, business titan, military commander, banker, and judge has a graduate degree, and look at the choices they make!
It's a vicious circle-- people want to change and repair a broken system, a system that's devouring the planet and its population at an unprecedented rate, so they pay a huge amount of money for the system to educate them!
I think he was ragging on both. One would think that Bush's high-dollar education would have helped him make dicisions that weren't so... catastrophic.
In fact, Chuck P. based that premise on the real life Ford Motor Co's "Pinto." They had a nasty habit of bursting into flames when rear-ended. Their legal department decided it was cheaper to pay off the survivors than to recall the whole line. IIRC, some memo got out that cost them a whole bunch in a rather large class-action suit. I really don't know the details past what I saw on some pseudo-documentary several years ago. I'm sure if you're interested, Google will reveal all the dark secrets.
I've got something similar myself. The only thing I've ever found that helps is encouraging your users to occassional archive their old stuff. I've got a little shell script that looks at the size of the PSTs in their network shares, and emails them instructions on splitting their old stuff off when they hit >500MB.
The only education programs that ever seem to get increased funding are things like abstinance-only sex education. And abstinance-only drug education. And abstinance-only debate classes.
Y'know, things that make us better at war.
Heh, that AC was a bit bent.
I should have prefaced that of course niether of the inventions I mentioned were especially developed by the government of the American nation. However, the economic projects of the 1930s, under FDR, did greatly assist in the delivery of these inventions to the world. The Works Progress Administration, for instance, built hundreds power plants, and pioneered many of the distribution techniques which have made electricity widely and cheaply available.
What many American citizens have forgotten is that the government was intended to be a tool of our will. Unfortunately, as with any nation, modern or historical, we are profoundly vulnerable to ignorance and fear. I agree that a scared man holding a gun is horribly dangerous, and as an American I greatly loath that this is how we're being perceived.
The point I was trying to make, and I fear may have been distracted by my mentioning technology, is that America, despite its current problems, is still not the evil vampiric nation, with lunatics poised to launch ICBMs at anyone who should displease us. The majority of citizens do *not* support the war in Iraq, nor do they support the president. The vast majority of citizens vigorously reject the recent anti-terror laws. A huge majority of citizens think we should engage Iran diplomatically.
Every American I talk to, conservative or liberal, Democrat or Republican (or 'other'), is incredibly dismayed at how the Bush administration has squandered America's position in the world, eroded our constitution, broken nearly three hundred years of American tradition by pre-emptively invading a sovreign nation, and dangerously blurred the lines between church and state.
People can call America a bully if they like, but the fact is that every country that's ever existed has been one at one point or another. Even if our current administration has run off the rails, I have confidence that the national identity and ideals of the American citizens will eventually correct the balance.
(As long as we're not sent to Guantanamo first, damnit...)
You know, there isn't actually a big red button.
And, honestly, to say we're just a big bully is a bit harsh-- how about the polio vaccine? What about electricity? As a country, the US has made a few very important contributions which have made all of civilization better.
I've never wasted a whole Sunday morning in supplication to an invisible man who lives in the sky, for one.
You can't be arrested for plagerism in the US.
You know, I'm not sure that it's really so much the langauge, but the utter crap that people write in it. It's...disappointing....to download what you think might be a cool/useful/whatever program, only to find that it's a barely functional VB nightmare that crashes if your screen resolution is set wrong.
Of course, it all depends on the programmer, in the same way that, say, carpenters can do both good work and bad. Good just takes so much longer, and is a lot more challenging.
No mini-PCI slots either (as far as I know), but who uses those anyway?
There are a lot of wifi cards that plug into mini-PCI slots, IIRC.
I actually like your comments about efficiency.
However, to rebut:
I don't like the frantic pace American society has taken on with this increase in business efficiency. Why am I now expected to work 60 hours a week, do all my eating in my car as I go from one job to the next, take my phone calls in thiry second snatches, and come home feeling exhausted and beat up every night? And, I've got a *good* job.
My wages haven't increased in parity with Wal-Mart's profits, and I don't see many Chinese seed-money startups. In fact, I see huge amounts of middle class Americans losing their good manufacturing jobs, forced to work for half their previous pay in a Burger King, slinging burgers to the children of the nuveau riche.
How about that CEOs are now making more than 10,000 times as much as their employees, and still laying people off to cut costs? How come employers don't have the money to pay American citizens anymore, and instead keep Mexican immigrants working like indentured servants, paying them only enough to ensure they can't leave, keeping them busy enough to make sure they can't find a better job?
What is of this economic malaise, where oil companies are bringing in record profits, and more and more citizens are having to make choices between gas or upkeep on their homes? How about the fact that we're now all expected to have our cell phones at all times, constantly negotiating, selling, buying, while the traditions of our culture are stripped more and more away by everyone always working, and never having enough money?
I know that Wally World isn't to blame for all these things, but the culture of "bigger! cheaper! faster!" is actively hurting the country that a large amount of us live in, and frankly, I want it to stop. I'd rather pay an extra dollar for a tool, knowing it was made by a guy who's getting a decent wage, who can take a few days off to spend with his family. I'd like my money to go to a gas company that realizes colluding to fix prices only harms the very people who are the "bread and butter" of the industry.
Basically, I'd like to see a bit of this greed rolled back. For people to realize again that there are more important things than having the most money, the most conspicuous consumption, the fastest car, the biggest house. I'd like to be able to clock out at five, and not have people calling me at nine that night, forcing me back into the business world. I'd prefer they stop building big-box warehouse stores in my town, because in twenty years, I doubt any of them will still be in business, and their hulks will be fucking ugly.
Actually, slavery was accepted by some, while others found it "bad." Both of these are opinions, and a neutral article ideally would show both... Also, there really no way to objectivelly declare what's morally wrong, as it varies over people and cultures, and depends on opinions, and non-fact based convictions.
Ahem, actually, I think our species has the ability to objectively define slavery as "Bad." I say this because of this logical construct:
All cultures have some form of "The Golden Rule," which is to say that virtually all people agree that you should not treat other people in a way you would not want to be treated yourself.
Slavery is of course enforced with the threat of violence.
Most people do not want violence committed against them.
Therefore, any rational person would conclude that slavery is bad.
And, lastly, those who would deny the innate evil of keeping other humans as slaves obviously have vested interests in slavery, which they feel are more important than basical social mores that have been in place since antiquity.
Just because people in the past (and present) still carry on barbaric behavior does not make that behavior neutral to the ideas of right and wrong. Barbarism is always wrong, as many barbarians have so decisively learned.
The same thing could be said for rape, murder, genocide, robbery, intimidation, etc. Just because there are adherents to a particular type of wrong behavior does not legitimize that behavior as "morally neutral."
Every opinion does not deserve equal time or creedence.
You can hardly blame the companies for the sins of the city planners. If you let the fox into the chicken coop, do you blame the fox for what happens next?
Sure, but you can't blame me for what I do to the fox after I catch the little bastard.
Did NPR report that US deaths in Iraq hit a 2-year low in March? Or did they report there was a "civil war" in Iraq? One of those is factually true, the other is not. Which of them makes one "better" informed? I guess it's a matter of opinion.
So, now, all this "Good news!" from Iraq that the liberal media aren't reporting is that for one month in a three year war, our causualty rate slowed a bit? Not stopped, but just slowed down? Oh, goody. We've turned a corner, victory is at hand. We're obviously in the last throes of the insurgency, and the damn media just can't stop concentrating on all those people and places that keep blowing up.
+1 offtopic, but your sig made me laugh out loud into my coffee.
Crap on a cracker. Don't use the words "logical fallacy" unless you know exactly what they mean. "Hot is cold" "The earth is flat" -- these are logical fallacies. "Software company X's products have diminished in quality over the years" -- this is just someone's opinion. Just because you disagree with an opinion doesn't make it illogical.