And you're saying this...why? Are you somehow convinced that these processors show up as general purpose CPUs? They don't. There is no conceivable reason something like this "needs" Windows. You're going to have specialized compilers generating specialized code that gets handed off to the GPUs. OS is mostly a non-issue.
Who says they are free of charge? Like I said - tax it when the money goes to a person. Bump the capital gains tax up 10%, double the dividends tax, whatever. At least that would make sense. Taxing a corporation doesn't make sense and creates issues like these.
It's not wrong. You're tying two arbitrary and unrelated concepts together and claiming they are related when they're not. You're also just making a statement that it's wrong with no real backing other than the statement.
Microsoft has a net positive impact on Washington and they do pay taxes in Washington. They are entitled to services. If Washington doesn't like it they can change the laws. Microsoft has a responsibility to its shareholders and its employees.
Further, you assume the Washington tax is "fair". What if it's not? Should Microsoft be beholden to pay an unfair tax? What is a fair tax and who gets to decide?
Finally, the "rules" allow what Microsoft is doing. If they don't then they will be smacked down in court. So you've falsely concluded there are two sets of rules when there is only one set of rules - Washington state laws. And they appear to allow this.
I find this conversation and others about state taxes interesting because people rarely bring up the real problem.
Federal taxes.
I pay far, far more in Federal taxes than state taxes. And what do those assholes do with it? Send it to another state? Force the states to implement federal laws which the federal govt. has no jurisdiction over by holding back highway money to improve the road system I actually use? Use it to buy votes from old people and poor people? Pay assholes $8k to buy a house or $4.5k to buy a car? Seriously, wtf?
The Federal govt should be doing things like funding the military, cross-state law enforcement, food and drug safety, diplomacy, etc.. not bullshit vote pandering and wealth redistribution. I have no control over how the federal govt spends my money, I have 50-200X the control over my local state.
So quit whining about the big mean evil corporations and look at the real problem here.
Amen. It's hard for me to think in a way that makes corporate taxes logical. Tax the money when it comes out of the corporation. Increase dividend and capital gains taxes. Institute taxes on asshole CEO's who use corporate assets like jets and travel money for personal use. Taxing corporations only appeals to dimwitted hippies and other assorted anti-corporatist dipshits.
Bold statements. Do you have any evidence of a law being broken other than the law of "I don't like them or what they're doing"? Don't worry, it's a rhetorical question. I fully understand you're just talking made up bullshit out of your ass.
No... I don't make much money, and I've got a couple dependents... So I'm not really trying very hard to pay more than they ask me to... But I also don't put much time and effort into paying less than they ask me to either. I know most people try to find as many loopholes and deductions as they can, which is maybe what you're aiming for... But I don't think most people report their income in an entirely different state to avoid paying taxes.
Because they can't legally do so. If they could, they would. Personally I would avoid (there is a difference between avoiding and evading) taxes to the point where I was paying what I considered a fair amount, maybe 10-15% overall if I could legally do so and not feel in the slightest bit bad about it. Have you seen what they spend tax money on?
The problem is that the system is being abused - not that Microsoft is committing the abuse. Of course if Fisher Price were dodging taxes we probably wouldn't see the story here on Slashdot, but that wouldn't make it a non-story or an ok thing to do.
Dodging taxes (as in avoiding, not evading) is not abusing the system. Generally the "system" abuses everybody, not vice-versa. To put it in the parlance of the day, don't hate the player hate the game.
Your post displays a stunning lack of understanding about how government works. They will take as much as they can get. If Microsoft paid all this money to Washington instead of Nevada, people in Nevada would pay more and people in Washington would pay exactly what they do now. This is Government 101 stuff here, man.
You're joking right? MS SQL Server. MySQL? Are you joking? MySQL is a tinker toy. But to round out the list, those other products _are_ "it", along with many others.
First, there's prior art for this of course. Second, it's just like the old con of putting "on the internet" on the back of any old idea and claiming it's new.
Is Apple going to get one upped when some super-genius comes up with the amazing idea of Advertising on the OS...on a netbook! or Advertising on the OS...on a laptop! It's ridiculous. Advertising on _anything_ is inherently an obvious idea.
"OSS database enterprise market"? Are you kidding? So now we can just make obscure definitions for markets and then cry that they're being stomped by some big mean corporation?
I hereby protest the acquisition of LeisureCorp by DynaCorp. Dynacorp will be the only producer of green lawn furniture produced in a building that is energy efficient and which produces green lawn furniture with a nylon content of less than 25% and which offers MegaHealthCare insurance to its employees. This could be a market travesty!
Jesus Christ. The Database market (that's what it is, it's not an "OSS detabase enterprise market", jesus christ) is wide open and there are alternatives of every stripe up and down the market segment. These are simple facts.
Oh bullshit. There is no monopoly in the database market, there isn't even a duopoly. This whole thing is ridiculous and the US needs to take action. Fuck those EU bureaucrats.
They won't have a leg to stand on if they try to force this. There is an enormous amount of competition at all levels in all segments of the Database market.
Yeah, that Xbox 360 hacking scene is _really_ jumping... Microsoft threw down the gauntlet and pretty much have had their way with the hackers. It can certainly be done, but it's hard enough that only the really hard-core (small, small minority) do it. Compare this to the original Xbox which had a pretty thriving hack community.
Sorry, that's a bunch of wishy-washy idealistic nonsense. There are plenty of well educated jobless people out there. So by definition there's plenty of supply (educated people) for demand (jobs requiring educated people). If this gets out of balance, the pay for the jobs will go up high enough so as to be an incentive for people to pay the price for high education.
It's even worse than that. The Federal govt. gives the universities money for research, then allows the University to spin off and profit from a private company based on the research. How fucking retarded is that?
Because there are infinite jobs and we all benefit from everybody having a bachelor's or better, right?
I'm a little torn on this. Making education cost money filters out the people who are more likely to succeed, and there are already jobless people who are highly educated. There's only so much work to be done. On the other hand - education shouldn't saddle someone with a lifelong usurious debt.
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And you're saying this...why? Are you somehow convinced that these processors show up as general purpose CPUs? They don't. There is no conceivable reason something like this "needs" Windows. You're going to have specialized compilers generating specialized code that gets handed off to the GPUs. OS is mostly a non-issue.
Who says they are free of charge? Like I said - tax it when the money goes to a person. Bump the capital gains tax up 10%, double the dividends tax, whatever. At least that would make sense. Taxing a corporation doesn't make sense and creates issues like these.
It's not wrong. You're tying two arbitrary and unrelated concepts together and claiming they are related when they're not. You're also just making a statement that it's wrong with no real backing other than the statement.
Microsoft has a net positive impact on Washington and they do pay taxes in Washington. They are entitled to services. If Washington doesn't like it they can change the laws. Microsoft has a responsibility to its shareholders and its employees.
Further, you assume the Washington tax is "fair". What if it's not? Should Microsoft be beholden to pay an unfair tax? What is a fair tax and who gets to decide?
Finally, the "rules" allow what Microsoft is doing. If they don't then they will be smacked down in court. So you've falsely concluded there are two sets of rules when there is only one set of rules - Washington state laws. And they appear to allow this.
I find this conversation and others about state taxes interesting because people rarely bring up the real problem.
Federal taxes.
I pay far, far more in Federal taxes than state taxes. And what do those assholes do with it? Send it to another state? Force the states to implement federal laws which the federal govt. has no jurisdiction over by holding back highway money to improve the road system I actually use? Use it to buy votes from old people and poor people? Pay assholes $8k to buy a house or $4.5k to buy a car? Seriously, wtf?
The Federal govt should be doing things like funding the military, cross-state law enforcement, food and drug safety, diplomacy, etc.. not bullshit vote pandering and wealth redistribution. I have no control over how the federal govt spends my money, I have 50-200X the control over my local state.
So quit whining about the big mean evil corporations and look at the real problem here.
Amen. It's hard for me to think in a way that makes corporate taxes logical. Tax the money when it comes out of the corporation. Increase dividend and capital gains taxes. Institute taxes on asshole CEO's who use corporate assets like jets and travel money for personal use. Taxing corporations only appeals to dimwitted hippies and other assorted anti-corporatist dipshits.
Bold statements. Do you have any evidence of a law being broken other than the law of "I don't like them or what they're doing"? Don't worry, it's a rhetorical question. I fully understand you're just talking made up bullshit out of your ass.
No... I don't make much money, and I've got a couple dependents... So I'm not really trying very hard to pay more than they ask me to... But I also don't put much time and effort into paying less than they ask me to either. I know most people try to find as many loopholes and deductions as they can, which is maybe what you're aiming for... But I don't think most people report their income in an entirely different state to avoid paying taxes.
Because they can't legally do so. If they could, they would. Personally I would avoid (there is a difference between avoiding and evading) taxes to the point where I was paying what I considered a fair amount, maybe 10-15% overall if I could legally do so and not feel in the slightest bit bad about it. Have you seen what they spend tax money on?
The problem is that the system is being abused - not that Microsoft is committing the abuse. Of course if Fisher Price were dodging taxes we probably wouldn't see the story here on Slashdot, but that wouldn't make it a non-story or an ok thing to do.
Dodging taxes (as in avoiding, not evading) is not abusing the system. Generally the "system" abuses everybody, not vice-versa. To put it in the parlance of the day, don't hate the player hate the game.
The riffraff don't understand this, though. They think "fat cat" corporations are pulling one over on the "little man" if you don't tax them.
They should just stop taxing corporations and increase the capital gains tax and taxes on dividends.
What is this apparently obvious ethical system you're using to decide this is not ethical? I don't think ethics means what you think it means.
Your post displays a stunning lack of understanding about how government works. They will take as much as they can get. If Microsoft paid all this money to Washington instead of Nevada, people in Nevada would pay more and people in Washington would pay exactly what they do now. This is Government 101 stuff here, man.
You're joking right? MS SQL Server. MySQL? Are you joking? MySQL is a tinker toy. But to round out the list, those other products _are_ "it", along with many others.
First, there's prior art for this of course. Second, it's just like the old con of putting "on the internet" on the back of any old idea and claiming it's new.
Is Apple going to get one upped when some super-genius comes up with the amazing idea of Advertising on the OS...on a netbook! or Advertising on the OS...on a laptop! It's ridiculous. Advertising on _anything_ is inherently an obvious idea.
Yeah, because Windows Server is a minority actor in the corporate/enterprise space. I assume that's the "point" you're trying to make?
Bullshit. There are these things called "shared library dependencies". Look it up.
They are not guarding the market. The market is fine. There are countless alternatives to both Oracle and MySQL.
"OSS database enterprise market"? Are you kidding? So now we can just make obscure definitions for markets and then cry that they're being stomped by some big mean corporation?
I hereby protest the acquisition of LeisureCorp by DynaCorp. Dynacorp will be the only producer of green lawn furniture produced in a building that is energy efficient and which produces green lawn furniture with a nylon content of less than 25% and which offers MegaHealthCare insurance to its employees. This could be a market travesty!
Jesus Christ. The Database market (that's what it is, it's not an "OSS detabase enterprise market", jesus christ) is wide open and there are alternatives of every stripe up and down the market segment. These are simple facts.
Which is complete shit and they are certainly _not_ the two biggest database solutions out there.
Furthermore, there is a low barrier to entry and a shitload of alternatives: Databases.
This is just the EU bureaucrats exerting power for their own benefit. If those fuckers want a trade war, I say we give it to them.
Oh bullshit. There is no monopoly in the database market, there isn't even a duopoly. This whole thing is ridiculous and the US needs to take action. Fuck those EU bureaucrats.
Little bit of a drama queen, are we?
They won't have a leg to stand on if they try to force this. There is an enormous amount of competition at all levels in all segments of the Database market.
Yeah, that Xbox 360 hacking scene is _really_ jumping... Microsoft threw down the gauntlet and pretty much have had their way with the hackers. It can certainly be done, but it's hard enough that only the really hard-core (small, small minority) do it. Compare this to the original Xbox which had a pretty thriving hack community.
If only this worked in places that are actually hot, say Arizona or Texas.
Sorry, that's a bunch of wishy-washy idealistic nonsense. There are plenty of well educated jobless people out there. So by definition there's plenty of supply (educated people) for demand (jobs requiring educated people). If this gets out of balance, the pay for the jobs will go up high enough so as to be an incentive for people to pay the price for high education.
It's even worse than that. The Federal govt. gives the universities money for research, then allows the University to spin off and profit from a private company based on the research. How fucking retarded is that?
Because there are infinite jobs and we all benefit from everybody having a bachelor's or better, right?
I'm a little torn on this. Making education cost money filters out the people who are more likely to succeed, and there are already jobless people who are highly educated. There's only so much work to be done. On the other hand - education shouldn't saddle someone with a lifelong usurious debt.