Why should you have access to the playground? You still have your shovel. Nobody took that from you.
Straight up, anybody that declares a BSD-licensed project to be "less free" than a GPL-licenses project is either intellectually dishonest, confused, or an imbecile. (I apologize in advance if anybody falls into category 1 or 3)
Given that you know what baksheesh is and used the term correctly, as well as being familiar with Icelandic last names for females, I would guess you probably have not lived in Southern Louisiana all your life. Maybe oil brought your Dad to Africa or the middle east when you were a child? Wild guess...
Not saying either product is better than the other but you're acting like a guy selling you a BMW 325i with a burtn out headlight is selling you the same thing as the other guy who is trying to sell you a 1982 Yugo Cabrio with a blown engine
It depends. What kind of blower does the Yugo have? Turbo or supercharger? Is a hole cut out hood to accommodate? The Yugo might be pretty sweet!
The comment is funny, but even for Slashdot the punctuation is awful. you probably mean:
Heh, I thought Comcast was only in the Americas.
or "Heh", I thought, "Comcast was only in the Americas."
or Heh, I thought. Comcast was only in the Americas.
or if the separate sentences are consequential: Heh, I thought; Comcast was only in the Americas.
or use a conjunction: Heh, I thought and Comcast was only in the Americas.
What were you doing during 7th grade english class?
There are a lot of things Stallman can be considered and the majority of them are not flattering.
Bringing up Bitkeeper doesn't make any sense here. What if Bitkeeper was CDDL, BSD, or Mozilla licensed? There would have been no problem using it to track the Linux configuration. Stallman correctly predicted the final consequence of using Bitkeeper, but that had nothing to do with the GPL or his agency of 100% open source code. That's just keeping yourself outside the mercy of others which applies in all walks of life.
Are you talking about ZFS under the CDDL which is considered GPL-incompatible and thus can't be used by Linux?
So whose fault is that? ZFS has been and continues to be adopted by other operating systems. The GPL is a manifestation of a polical agenda and the inability to incorporate ZFS is a consequence. That is Linux's problem, not the folks that release their open-source filesystems under the licenses of their choosing.
Just because somebody doesn't buy into Stallman's agenda doesn't mean they are a douchebag.
I'm not French, but I have been living in Toulouse for 10 months. I discovered one computer assembly good company that lets you customize everything you want, including the option of having no operating system. There's no hassle, you just move the dropdown form control from whatever version of Windows Vista to "none" and the price of the PC automatically drops (I recall it dropping about 95 euros).
I don't know if ASUS does, but you can buy new computers without an operating system here. I moved to Southern France about 10 months ago and bought two computers from Multimedis during that time. They allow you to alter any standard package including opting not to have any version of windows. I recall that the price of the computer fell about 95 Euros when I did that.
Seriously - have you ever stumbled on a long-running blog that is 1 page long? Ever article the author ever wrote is stacked one after another, complete with more than hundred images. It can take minutes to load the entire page.
I don't know if the blog software is to blame, the clueless blogger, or if it was intentional in order to have the most pointers from Google. If I end up at one I immediately back out -- I don't need to hear the opinion of anyone that maintains a site like that.
The multi-megabyte one page blogs are a scourge on the internet.
Not every user? Thus implying more than half the users are programmers? From what I've heard about the quality of the contribution of these people that fancy themselves as programmers, you'd probably be better off waiting for a professional to do it.
Frankly I am tired of this "You can fix it yourself" mantra. A very, very small percentage of users even have the capability and of those, only a small percentage have the motivation and time to attempt it.
I fully agree with you with the exception of "pkgadd -d is too hard for you"? KentRecal is right about the lack of package management. Blastwave is terrible. I also believe the absence of current, sun-sponsored and daily updated package repository is completely unacceptable. The new graphic installer and supplied programs that come with OpenSolaris developer editions are nice, but the package issue should be considered the #1 problem. I don't know how Project Indiana is planning to address this, but I don't get the feeling it will be done properly.
The download manager works just fine. I even live in Southern France which has about the most primitive internet capability, a real pain after my stints in the Netherlands and Germany. If I can get the downloads in one go, anybody can. Sounds like a problem with your computer, not Sun.
I've installed openSolaris dev edition from scratch and 4 months later performed a live update to the new version. It worked perfectly to the letter as outlined on Sun's excellent documentation.
On the dev editions most things work pretty well -- There's been a couple of hickups like the ethernet card going down during FTP transfers between computers on the same LAN.
In general, openSolaris works extremely well on my new core2duo machine although it didn't recognize the built in gigalan connection on the ASUS motherboard (I had to install an old ethernet card I had lying around).
If I could change one thing, I would love openSolaris to have a ports system like FreeBSD. Blastwave is not even close. It's too hard to install, compile, or maintain these programs. I have to manually configure and compile almost every program and every dependency and it wastes a lot of time. It's frustrating, especially since I have FreeBSD 7 installed on a sister server and I can experience the differences between the two firsthand.
Project Indiana is supposed to address the missing official package repository issue, but it will have a long way to go to be comparable to FreeBSD.
I've replaced the gauge on a mid-eighties Buick a number of times and I can tell you live wires go into the gas tank. The transducer was a one-piece unit. Did you ever consider there is more than one way to design something? Your point, therefore, is invalid.
I use Calc at least casually and I prefer it to Excel, of which I consider myself an expert. I didn't get your "cut and paste" example at all. Calc pastes data exactly where you say and you're upset because it overwrites data that you left in the target area? What?
So thanks for your opinion, mine differs.
I would be shocked if you could prove that you have ever modified the source of Konquerer, much less contributed to the code base. More likely you are just another guy screaming the have the source code without the ability to personally do anything with it. I know, you never actually do scan code of open source products, but you could if you wanted too.
So your position is that ultimately these companies need to completely open source all their current products, release all new products as F/OSS, and move over to the certification, consulting, and training for income model, or risk extinction? Companies have to be either entirely closed or entirely open? You can't mix-and-match based on market and product?
I'll let IBM, Oracle, and Microsoft know they are ultimately doomed right away! F/OSS will overcome!
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Why should you have access to the playground? You still have your shovel. Nobody took that from you.
Straight up, anybody that declares a BSD-licensed project to be "less free" than a GPL-licenses project is either intellectually dishonest, confused, or an imbecile. (I apologize in advance if anybody falls into category 1 or 3)
Given that you know what baksheesh is and used the term correctly, as well as being familiar with Icelandic last names for females, I would guess you probably have not lived in Southern Louisiana all your life. Maybe oil brought your Dad to Africa or the middle east when you were a child? Wild guess...
Don't worry about the dupe. I'll be honest; I haven't read all 26,405,708 previous comments yet.
Not saying either product is better than the other but you're acting like a guy selling you a BMW 325i with a burtn out headlight is selling you the same thing as the other guy who is trying to sell you a 1982 Yugo Cabrio with a blown engine
It depends. What kind of blower does the Yugo have? Turbo or supercharger? Is a hole cut out hood to accommodate? The Yugo might be pretty sweet!
If you use hacker-ish sounding names like CapnCrunch or Dildog then you're asking for notoriety and your ass will be laughed at in a LUG.
Are you speaking from experience, Ethanol-Fueled?
This opinion just might be the stupidest thing I've read recently, but then again I haven't been on Slashdot long today.
The comment is funny, but even for Slashdot the punctuation is awful. you probably mean:
Heh, I thought Comcast was only in the Americas.
or
"Heh", I thought, "Comcast was only in the Americas."
or
Heh, I thought. Comcast was only in the Americas.
or if the separate sentences are consequential:
Heh, I thought; Comcast was only in the Americas.
or use a conjunction:
Heh, I thought and Comcast was only in the Americas.
What were you doing during 7th grade english class?
There are a lot of things Stallman can be considered and the majority of them are not flattering.
Bringing up Bitkeeper doesn't make any sense here. What if Bitkeeper was CDDL, BSD, or Mozilla licensed? There would have been no problem using it to track the Linux configuration. Stallman correctly predicted the final consequence of using Bitkeeper, but that had nothing to do with the GPL or his agency of 100% open source code. That's just keeping yourself outside the mercy of others which applies in all walks of life.
FreeBSD 7.0 has experimental support for ZFS ( http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html ).
That means CDDL doesn't give BSD-licensed systems any problems. Obviously ZFS also works on OpenSolaris which is fully open source as well.
Are you talking about ZFS under the CDDL which is considered GPL-incompatible and thus can't be used by Linux?
So whose fault is that? ZFS has been and continues to be adopted by other operating systems. The GPL is a manifestation of a polical agenda and the inability to incorporate ZFS is a consequence. That is Linux's problem, not the folks that release their open-source filesystems under the licenses of their choosing.
Just because somebody doesn't buy into Stallman's agenda doesn't mean they are a douchebag.
I'm not French, but I have been living in Toulouse for 10 months. I discovered one computer assembly good company that lets you customize everything you want, including the option of having no operating system. There's no hassle, you just move the dropdown form control from whatever version of Windows Vista to "none" and the price of the PC automatically drops (I recall it dropping about 95 euros).
I got two computers this way from http://www.multimedis.fr/
I don't know if ASUS does, but you can buy new computers without an operating system here. I moved to Southern France about 10 months ago and bought two computers from Multimedis during that time. They allow you to alter any standard package including opting not to have any version of windows. I recall that the price of the computer fell about 95 Euros when I did that.
Unless it's Scottish...
He said the lawyers don't want smart people with critical skills on the jury.
Given that you didn't comprehend that, I'm guessing you'd be perfect for jury duty actually.
Seriously - have you ever stumbled on a long-running blog that is 1 page long? Ever article the author ever wrote is stacked one after another, complete with more than hundred images. It can take minutes to load the entire page.
I don't know if the blog software is to blame, the clueless blogger, or if it was intentional in order to have the most pointers from Google. If I end up at one I immediately back out -- I don't need to hear the opinion of anyone that maintains a site like that.
The multi-megabyte one page blogs are a scourge on the internet.
Not every user? Thus implying more than half the users are programmers? From what I've heard about the quality of the contribution of these people that fancy themselves as programmers, you'd probably be better off waiting for a professional to do it.
Frankly I am tired of this "You can fix it yourself" mantra. A very, very small percentage of users even have the capability and of those, only a small percentage have the motivation and time to attempt it.
I fully agree with you with the exception of "pkgadd -d is too hard for you"? KentRecal is right about the lack of package management. Blastwave is terrible. I also believe the absence of current, sun-sponsored and daily updated package repository is completely unacceptable. The new graphic installer and supplied programs that come with OpenSolaris developer editions are nice, but the package issue should be considered the #1 problem. I don't know how Project Indiana is planning to address this, but I don't get the feeling it will be done properly.
That's really a crock, sorry.
The download manager works just fine. I even live in Southern France which has about the most primitive internet capability, a real pain after my stints in the Netherlands and Germany. If I can get the downloads in one go, anybody can. Sounds like a problem with your computer, not Sun.
I've installed openSolaris dev edition from scratch and 4 months later performed a live update to the new version. It worked perfectly to the letter as outlined on Sun's excellent documentation.
On the dev editions most things work pretty well -- There's been a couple of hickups like the ethernet card going down during FTP transfers between computers on the same LAN.
In general, openSolaris works extremely well on my new core2duo machine although it didn't recognize the built in gigalan connection on the ASUS motherboard (I had to install an old ethernet card I had lying around).
If I could change one thing, I would love openSolaris to have a ports system like FreeBSD. Blastwave is not even close. It's too hard to install, compile, or maintain these programs. I have to manually configure and compile almost every program and every dependency and it wastes a lot of time. It's frustrating, especially since I have FreeBSD 7 installed on a sister server and I can experience the differences between the two firsthand.
Project Indiana is supposed to address the missing official package repository issue, but it will have a long way to go to be comparable to FreeBSD.
I've replaced the gauge on a mid-eighties Buick a number of times and I can tell you live wires go into the gas tank. The transducer was a one-piece unit. Did you ever consider there is more than one way to design something? Your point, therefore, is invalid.
Google uses properly formed HTML?
Have you actually ever validated their pages? Here's the english version of the Google/Firefox start page:
http://www.google.com/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
Run that through the W3C markup validation service. I did and it fails to validate due to 54 errors. Don't give Google credit when they don't earn it.
The guy from Memento could have used this! Even using Microsoft products has to be less painful than constantly tatooing yourself.
I use Calc at least casually and I prefer it to Excel, of which I consider myself an expert. I didn't get your "cut and paste" example at all. Calc pastes data exactly where you say and you're upset because it overwrites data that you left in the target area? What? So thanks for your opinion, mine differs.
I would be shocked if you could prove that you have ever modified the source of Konquerer, much less contributed to the code base. More likely you are just another guy screaming the have the source code without the ability to personally do anything with it. I know, you never actually do scan code of open source products, but you could if you wanted too.
The scary thing is that I think you're serious.
So your position is that ultimately these companies need to completely open source all their current products, release all new products as F/OSS, and move over to the certification, consulting, and training for income model, or risk extinction? Companies have to be either entirely closed or entirely open? You can't mix-and-match based on market and product? I'll let IBM, Oracle, and Microsoft know they are ultimately doomed right away! F/OSS will overcome!