One bad example doesn't demonstrate whether or not games have the capacity to invoke strong emotional reactions. I could say the same about children's books to dismiss literature's influence on our emotions but doing so would be pointless and wrong.
Yea, I figured that much. Anyway it's nice to know that somebody out there isn't trying to increase revenue by charging more rather than providing a better product...
No, they're not going to raise prices so you're not "paying pretty much the same price as a cd to have it in a proprietary, non-portable format with no artwork and nothing tangible."
They might be going off of any combination of inflation, production costs to revenue ratios, you name it. I'm sure there's a way to spin and twist the numbers to make it look like those poor Hollywood execs are really suffering.
"Two UMD movies sold 100,000 units within two months. By contrast, one of the earliest DVD releases, Air Force One, took nine to achieve the same goal."
Wait, and was Air Force One one of the two best-selling DVD's? I'd be more surprised if the two best-selling UMD movies didn't compare favorably to a poorly-selling DVD of my choosing. Add the fact that things probably just sell more today than they did then and I'm struggling to see the news here.
My point isn't that nobody's hyped about the 360. I'm just bothered by the fact that everybody was hyped for the PS3 when they have nothing but speculation and a history of less-than-spectacular launches (I can agree with... Dynasty Warriors 2 and NHL 2001 as good games).
Umm, which ones? And it's easy to compare to the 360 when nothing's even out yet. I'm having a hard time picking out anything on the PS2's launch list that's even worth mentioning, much less call excellent games.
But an HDTV isn't. Xboxes can output most games (like Chaos Theory) in highger resolutions than that. And I said "visuals," not specifically resolution. So if you build a PC that can produce the image (polygons, bump mapping normal mapping, and I don't know what shaders the Xbox supports if any) that an Xbox does for $150 I'll be floored.
All this console bashing and I'm still waiting for PC gamers to deliver.
You know, on a message board today we realized how amazing it is that Nintendo has generated so much hype by doing nothing. I thought Sony was the master at this but this is something else. A lot of people are expecting news about the controller but I think the launch is still too far out to ensure that the ideas won't be copied before Nintendo can even benefit from them.
Oblivion would do it for me. I'm also really tempted by Test Drive: Unlimited (I live in Hawaii) and I'll definitely be sold if I ever find release dates for Ninety-Nine Nights and Too Human.
Hey, find me a machine that can pump out visuals on par with Chaos Theory and Doom 3 (Xbox versions) for less than $150 and you'll have a worthwhile link on your hands.
HD-DVD editions and multiple discs nagate that entire point. And HD FMV's? Pre-rendered cutscenes are reaching the end of their time since the in-game engines of most games will rival anything that could be produced in a cutscene while using less disc space. And games like Half-Life 2 are the exception that could easily just be released on two or three discs.
Exactly. My point is that the PS3's lineup is only currently full of assumptions. Anyway, I am willing to sing many praises for one title I've seen, though the only name that comes to mind for it is the Godess of War joke since it really looks simiilar only in an ancient Japan/Star Wars Episode I environment. Oh, and Killing Day looked gorgeous.
The vast majority of games still don't take up a full 9 GB. I've seen parallels drawn between console games and PC games and they make sense. You think CD's will be replaced as the distribution within the next 5 or 6 years? Much less DVD's. These games can all be ported to PC for the most part, your post only proves that Sony's hype machine works (a point I've never argued against).
DVD's don't drive MS into any corners, it's smart for MS to hold off on the higher capacity formats while they sit and wait, probably pushing HD-DVD using their influence through Vista and when the time's right (along with the prices) the HD-DVD (or possibly even Blu-Ray) drive will be made available for the Xbox 360 along with a high-profile title or two. Dare I say Halo?
I agree whole heartedly that MS really stands as more of a contender and depending on my mood I can't for the life of me find it possible for either Sony or MS to even succeed. You know? I mean it's really that close at this point. But the more competition there is the better off we as consumers are, so bring on the race.
MS already manufactured an amazing console. It's called the Xbox. Unfortunately it carried the MS name with it and now it's being followed up with the very product it was accused of being: a low-end PC. I can't wait (read: I'd love) to see if Nintendo can really pull off a sucker punch to Sony and MS and remind everybody what console gaming's all about. A true three-way race doesn't seem too unlikely, but I'm not betting on it.
They don't support HD-DVD because its future is in question and increased media capacity isn't the most important thing in the world. Also, it saves them money on each 360 made (I believe they're going to make money on every Xbox 360 sold).
Well 99 Nights looks damn interesting, as does what little I've heard of Too Human. I'm probably going to hold off, though being a resident of Hawaii it's tempting to get Test Drive: Unlimited just to find places I went to the night before.
Rather than prove the Xbox 360's worth, I doubt anybody can do the same for the PS3 yet.
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One bad example doesn't demonstrate whether or not games have the capacity to invoke strong emotional reactions. I could say the same about children's books to dismiss literature's influence on our emotions but doing so would be pointless and wrong.
Yea, I figured that much. Anyway it's nice to know that somebody out there isn't trying to increase revenue by charging more rather than providing a better product...
No, they're not going to raise prices so you're not "paying pretty much the same price as a cd to have it in a proprietary, non-portable format with no artwork and nothing tangible."
They might be going off of any combination of inflation, production costs to revenue ratios, you name it. I'm sure there's a way to spin and twist the numbers to make it look like those poor Hollywood execs are really suffering.
Wait, and was Air Force One one of the two best-selling DVD's? I'd be more surprised if the two best-selling UMD movies didn't compare favorably to a poorly-selling DVD of my choosing. Add the fact that things probably just sell more today than they did then and I'm struggling to see the news here.
My point isn't that nobody's hyped about the 360. I'm just bothered by the fact that everybody was hyped for the PS3 when they have nothing but speculation and a history of less-than-spectacular launches (I can agree with... Dynasty Warriors 2 and NHL 2001 as good games).
Umm, which ones? And it's easy to compare to the 360 when nothing's even out yet. I'm having a hard time picking out anything on the PS2's launch list that's even worth mentioning, much less call excellent games.
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But an HDTV isn't. Xboxes can output most games (like Chaos Theory) in highger resolutions than that. And I said "visuals," not specifically resolution. So if you build a PC that can produce the image (polygons, bump mapping normal mapping, and I don't know what shaders the Xbox supports if any) that an Xbox does for $150 I'll be floored.
All this console bashing and I'm still waiting for PC gamers to deliver.
That post was supposed to be longer and I was gonna elaborate some more but for the record I'm rooting for Nintendo in this upcoming generation.
You know, on a message board today we realized how amazing it is that Nintendo has generated so much hype by doing nothing. I thought Sony was the master at this but this is something else. A lot of people are expecting news about the controller but I think the launch is still too far out to ensure that the ideas won't be copied before Nintendo can even benefit from them.
Oblivion would do it for me. I'm also really tempted by Test Drive: Unlimited (I live in Hawaii) and I'll definitely be sold if I ever find release dates for Ninety-Nine Nights and Too Human.
And the PS2 was?
I suppose it's just best not to ever even think of doing anything in space at all until every single problem on Earth is addressed forever.
Slowly?
Hey, find me a machine that can pump out visuals on par with Chaos Theory and Doom 3 (Xbox versions) for less than $150 and you'll have a worthwhile link on your hands.
No, but that's an extremely specific scenario. The point is that in general, use of the in-game engine and multiple discs are a very viable solution.
HD-DVD editions and multiple discs nagate that entire point. And HD FMV's? Pre-rendered cutscenes are reaching the end of their time since the in-game engines of most games will rival anything that could be produced in a cutscene while using less disc space. And games like Half-Life 2 are the exception that could easily just be released on two or three discs.
Exactly. My point is that the PS3's lineup is only currently full of assumptions. Anyway, I am willing to sing many praises for one title I've seen, though the only name that comes to mind for it is the Godess of War joke since it really looks simiilar only in an ancient Japan/Star Wars Episode I environment. Oh, and Killing Day looked gorgeous.
The vast majority of games still don't take up a full 9 GB. I've seen parallels drawn between console games and PC games and they make sense. You think CD's will be replaced as the distribution within the next 5 or 6 years? Much less DVD's. These games can all be ported to PC for the most part, your post only proves that Sony's hype machine works (a point I've never argued against).
DVD's don't drive MS into any corners, it's smart for MS to hold off on the higher capacity formats while they sit and wait, probably pushing HD-DVD using their influence through Vista and when the time's right (along with the prices) the HD-DVD (or possibly even Blu-Ray) drive will be made available for the Xbox 360 along with a high-profile title or two. Dare I say Halo?
I agree whole heartedly that MS really stands as more of a contender and depending on my mood I can't for the life of me find it possible for either Sony or MS to even succeed. You know? I mean it's really that close at this point. But the more competition there is the better off we as consumers are, so bring on the race.
MS already manufactured an amazing console. It's called the Xbox. Unfortunately it carried the MS name with it and now it's being followed up with the very product it was accused of being: a low-end PC. I can't wait (read: I'd love) to see if Nintendo can really pull off a sucker punch to Sony and MS and remind everybody what console gaming's all about. A true three-way race doesn't seem too unlikely, but I'm not betting on it.
They don't support HD-DVD because its future is in question and increased media capacity isn't the most important thing in the world. Also, it saves them money on each 360 made (I believe they're going to make money on every Xbox 360 sold).
Well 99 Nights looks damn interesting, as does what little I've heard of Too Human. I'm probably going to hold off, though being a resident of Hawaii it's tempting to get Test Drive: Unlimited just to find places I went to the night before.
Rather than prove the Xbox 360's worth, I doubt anybody can do the same for the PS3 yet.