So if I was really evil, I could just have this be part of the payload for a big, well established botnet and end up killing lots of people at once?
This sounds like the FDA will not be happy..
So what you are telling me is that if I wanted to, I could - hypothetically - write an iphone app that would detect people with this exploit in their chest, and if I wanted to and was evil enough to do so make them have a heart attack?
Mod Parent Up.
I am currently a software developer with an FDA regulated product, and we have to sign a form explaining what we did when we check in. Yes, a hand written form, showing and explaining what was changed, how it was changed, and its impact on the product. Not just your normal check-in comments; this is a multiple page form/essay that what we checked in is what we said we checked in. Every time.
The FDA has STRICT rules about software quality and security due to what in the FDA regulated software industry is known as "negative impact events".. basically anything that hurts the patient or has the ability to risk the patients health, even if they just have a worry (as stress can create physiological pain, etc). In this case, the security exploit by itself would be so negative that it can get a product pulled and the company selling it fined into oblivion.
If anything the company that build this software is trying to cover its ass, and will fight as much as it can to not release the source code.. or risk death by FDA audit. And yes they exist; all FDA projects get audited sometimes, but when it happens its a massive company wide effort not to piss off the auditors or show them things they donty ask for explicitly as they are usually only raping with no lube.. it can get MUCH worse.
Basically they forgot that forking is perfectly legal. Then they complained and whined and now the fork will have the full support of the apache foundation.. oops.
Nothing to see here, move along.
No. I started a company; Then I hired a lawyer to set things up correctly so that under the IRS tax rules as the owner of the company I was exempt from things like underage hour limits, etc. Not that I worked full time, of course.
And thats why one of my biggest expenses month to main is in my continual education. Not just in computer science, but in business, marketing, etc as well as other topics.
Making the more important words in upper case to make a point. The same could be expected of the 50 year old OP. I dont care how old he is, only that he has CARED to keep his skills CURRENT and he still maintains the mental agility to SOLVE problems. Thats easy enough to check in an interview.
And for the record, you are wrong about the "setting the bar too high" stuff, as that way of thinking is exactly why most people fail; They dont set the bar high enough. There is always still competition for mediocrity, less so for excellence or success. I learned at a young age if you fail to make your goals, you either didn't work hard enough, or your setting goals that are not worth reaching for.
Playing the devils advocate, If you don't love it enough that you have 10 years of experience in something as simple as C by the time your 20, why are you in the industry? Seriously?
Maybe my perspective is biased. I started coding when I was 8. I'm older but not yet 30 and I have almost 20 years experience working in the industry professionally. I started young because I loved what I was doing and realized I could make money doing what I loved instead of forcing myself to come to work every day to something I hated.
So as the manager looking to hire somebody, If you don't like what you do every day, can't I safely assume that your not going to be as good at it as somebody who honestly loves doing it? And if so, why should I hire you over the guy who loves it?
In my mind age is not the issue.It would also be illegal for em to make it an issue. In the end, I want to hires somebody who loves what they are doing and cares enough to keep themselves educated in it.. and if they are 50 years old I dont care as long as they are reading books and taking classes in their own time.
Lets try this again:
I don't see Rift, Eve Online (Who actualy dropped support but had it once, due to what Im discussing about) or other games being developed for Linux.
Lets confuse the issue more:
In fact if I do a search for linux gaming I get old games, bad games, unfinished games that were abandoned, and a very few clones of the classics done as a learning exercise.. all in opengl.
And lets not forget to piss some people off:
Why? Because in general the so called "pro game devs" only leech from the open source community by using it to learn, and in general they never give back by using the skills to make a game hat will actually run on Linux well without emulation.
No not management, I'm a full time dev and part time entrepreneur.
And you are making a lot of bad assumptions with your ad-hom attacks and fallacious logic. You are wrong about me; You and I have a lot in common actually. Except I make more than you, have a better understanding of the target markets, and yes I would probably hire you if you could prove your skills because lets face it, school doesn't matter and what you learn does.
The lesson to be learned here is that value can be added in many ways, its not a one sided thing like you seem to -ironically - be suggesting. You sit here and get angry because somebody wanted more data on the value of this, and yet you dismiss the value behind the idea that people who run companies and worry about this stuff are the same people hiring people like you, even as you allude to it as a part of a ad-hom attack.
Ad-hom attacks and fallacious logic gets you no where.
I never said "new tools are bad". I asked "What are these new tools good for?" and "Why should I use them"?
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So if I was really evil, I could just have this be part of the payload for a big, well established botnet and end up killing lots of people at once? This sounds like the FDA will not be happy..
So what you are telling me is that if I wanted to, I could - hypothetically - write an iphone app that would detect people with this exploit in their chest, and if I wanted to and was evil enough to do so make them have a heart attack?
Mod Parent Up. I am currently a software developer with an FDA regulated product, and we have to sign a form explaining what we did when we check in. Yes, a hand written form, showing and explaining what was changed, how it was changed, and its impact on the product. Not just your normal check-in comments; this is a multiple page form/essay that what we checked in is what we said we checked in. Every time. The FDA has STRICT rules about software quality and security due to what in the FDA regulated software industry is known as "negative impact events".. basically anything that hurts the patient or has the ability to risk the patients health, even if they just have a worry (as stress can create physiological pain, etc). In this case, the security exploit by itself would be so negative that it can get a product pulled and the company selling it fined into oblivion. If anything the company that build this software is trying to cover its ass, and will fight as much as it can to not release the source code.. or risk death by FDA audit. And yes they exist; all FDA projects get audited sometimes, but when it happens its a massive company wide effort not to piss off the auditors or show them things they donty ask for explicitly as they are usually only raping with no lube.. it can get MUCH worse.
Are you saying these are universal binaries?
Yet the change was not retroactive, and by claiming otherwise they lose all rights under the DMCA they abused.
Basically they forgot that forking is perfectly legal. Then they complained and whined and now the fork will have the full support of the apache foundation.. oops. Nothing to see here, move along.
Its not my native first language. .. and I had not had my morning tea yet.
No. I started a company; Then I hired a lawyer to set things up correctly so that under the IRS tax rules as the owner of the company I was exempt from things like underage hour limits, etc. Not that I worked full time, of course.
And thats why one of my biggest expenses month to main is in my continual education. Not just in computer science, but in business, marketing, etc as well as other topics. Making the more important words in upper case to make a point. The same could be expected of the 50 year old OP. I dont care how old he is, only that he has CARED to keep his skills CURRENT and he still maintains the mental agility to SOLVE problems. Thats easy enough to check in an interview. And for the record, you are wrong about the "setting the bar too high" stuff, as that way of thinking is exactly why most people fail; They dont set the bar high enough. There is always still competition for mediocrity, less so for excellence or success. I learned at a young age if you fail to make your goals, you either didn't work hard enough, or your setting goals that are not worth reaching for.
Playing the devils advocate, If you don't love it enough that you have 10 years of experience in something as simple as C by the time your 20, why are you in the industry? Seriously? Maybe my perspective is biased. I started coding when I was 8. I'm older but not yet 30 and I have almost 20 years experience working in the industry professionally. I started young because I loved what I was doing and realized I could make money doing what I loved instead of forcing myself to come to work every day to something I hated. So as the manager looking to hire somebody, If you don't like what you do every day, can't I safely assume that your not going to be as good at it as somebody who honestly loves doing it? And if so, why should I hire you over the guy who loves it? In my mind age is not the issue.It would also be illegal for em to make it an issue. In the end, I want to hires somebody who loves what they are doing and cares enough to keep themselves educated in it.. and if they are 50 years old I dont care as long as they are reading books and taking classes in their own time.
The last thing they need is bibles. They need STEM education; a bible is antithetical to this.
.. I always wanted to be like Tony Stark.
No it would be worthless since it would just detect every file as insecure.
You must be new here.. we are only allowed to bash M$. ;)
.. no holodec for you.
... Except its batteries can run out when the person is in the middle of a busy highway.
Women have holes in them and I use them for their functional biological use - sex - just fine.
I never said otherwise. What exactly are you accusing me of?
Warning: Parent is GOATSE Troll..
Thank you.
Lets try this again:
I don't see Rift, Eve Online (Who actualy dropped support but had it once, due to what Im discussing about) or other games being developed for Linux.
Lets confuse the issue more:
In fact if I do a search for linux gaming I get old games, bad games, unfinished games that were abandoned, and a very few clones of the classics done as a learning exercise.. all in opengl.
And lets not forget to piss some people off:
Why? Because in general the so called "pro game devs" only leech from the open source community by using it to learn, and in general they never give back by using the skills to make a game hat will actually run on Linux well without emulation.
That work? ;)
Warning: Parent is GOATSE Troll.
Wait , I really hope you are not saying VOXELS are ready for prime time over the standard polygon model?
No not management, I'm a full time dev and part time entrepreneur. And you are making a lot of bad assumptions with your ad-hom attacks and fallacious logic. You are wrong about me; You and I have a lot in common actually. Except I make more than you, have a better understanding of the target markets, and yes I would probably hire you if you could prove your skills because lets face it, school doesn't matter and what you learn does. The lesson to be learned here is that value can be added in many ways, its not a one sided thing like you seem to -ironically - be suggesting. You sit here and get angry because somebody wanted more data on the value of this, and yet you dismiss the value behind the idea that people who run companies and worry about this stuff are the same people hiring people like you, even as you allude to it as a part of a ad-hom attack.
This was the sort of reply I wanted, asked for, but never got before your post (while being trolled and attacked for asking). Thank you.
Ad-hom attacks and fallacious logic gets you no where. I never said "new tools are bad". I asked "What are these new tools good for?" and "Why should I use them"?