Yeah and a bungee cord is easier to hold your front door closed with than a deadbolt or even a standard doorknob but you'd still have to be a fucking moron to use one.
Nothing humans do is any more unnatural than ants making tunnels or chimps using sticks as tools. Just because we have consciousness does not mean we get to proclaim ourselves superior to and ungoverned by nature. Unless you're an Intelligent Design type, then you might have an argument.
Eh, I don't give a rat's ass about the game really. My annoyance (I gave up getting outraged over things on the Internet a long time ago) was for the twit assuming that everyone had a fast, stable Internet connection. Or even had the possibility of having one available to them.
You'd be surprised. Living out in the sticks where there simply is no broadband doesn't really have anything to do with whether you enjoy some quality video game carnage.
Internet connections these days are pretty damn reliable. Mine croaks maybe once or twice a year, and usually only for a few hours at worst.
Horseshit. Around forty percent of the US still do not have broadband and dial-up has never been reliable about disconnects. Even on broadband, if your line quality isn't top notch you're looking at a complete inability to play the games for hours at a time. That is not an experience I'd care to pay money for.
Everything sucks rocks (and quite a few other things) trying to run OpenOffice. It makes MSOffice look blazingly fast and I absolutely hate saying anything less than derogatory about MS.
You and he are making different points, and both of you suck.
Ha! See, now there's a response worthy of a thread that's a tangential troll of the OP. My point is mostly that college students are still barely informed idiots, and will be until they start thinking for themselves based on more than what a teacher/professor/TA/hot chick they want to nail/etc... tells them.
when really kids are just happy to rebel against any authoritarian figure regardless of political alignment.
I'll grant you the first two years weren't voluntary, and possibly even some of those recalled from IRR (though they knew this could be done, it's in their contract and explained when they sign it), but the majority were entirely voluntary knowing exactly what they would be doing.
It's funny, I keep hearing all these people solemnly proclaiming that "real conservatives" are opposed to foreign adventurism, and to fighting wars without paying for them. Of course, most of them started saying that only after Bush took a nosedive in the polls, and by all evidence they happily voted for Bush in 2004 and McCain in 2008 (and will probably vote for Palin in 2012) but supposedly there are a good many in America's right wing who thought the Iraq war was a bad idea from the get-go.
Buncha fair-weather asshats, yep. Not that I disagree that we should have paid for the war at the time instead of running up debt. I simply said so at the time and feel quite justified whenever the need strikes me to bitch about that rather than the other overspending Bush and now Obama have done.
Anyway, if you look over the other examples GPP cited, it's blindingly obvious that student protests are not linked to the left-right axis. The young tend to be more liberal than the old, it's true (and anyone who digs out the quote commonly misattributed to Churchill at this point will be send back to remedial classes) but what constitutes "liberal" in any particular time and place is generally defined by opposition to the existing power structure.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if the young tend to be more liberal than the old, and students are primarily young, doesn't it follow that students tend to be more liberal than the national average? You kind of made my point for me there. I'll give you a pass though being as you posted in the middle of the night where I live and quite possibly either had a surplus of alcohol or deficit of caffeine in your system at the time.
I'm sorry, you thought I was spouting a talking point? Sorry, no. You'll have to make do with facts and well thought out arguments. Citation needed? Here you go.
Like how the students in Iran that protest their government are doing so because they're incited by "leftist professors". Or students protesting against the communists in Soviet Russia or during Ukraine's "Orange Revolution".
Oh my! You mean fighting an oppressive government isn't a hallmark of the left, even when they're not even when they're not actually being oppressed? Yes, I'd say exactly like that. I just happen to agree with them in those cases. Not having thought out your argument worth a damn doesn't mean you're necessarily wrong, e.g., Sean Hannity. Sean's so stupid it hurts to listen to him. Even when he's right in his position it's for completely the wrong reasons.
How about all those students protesting against the Iraq war in the USA and the UK?
Yes. Again, exactly like that. The students protesting that war almost certainly sacrificed little or nothing to the war effort. They protested on behalf of an Iraqi public whose opinion on the matter they didn't care to know and on behalf of the soldiers who volunteered to fight the war. Well thought out, yeah?
Was that a "left-right" issue.
Absofuckinglutely. Unless I missed it where all kinds of conservatives were shouting out against the war? I discount the buyer's remorse crowd because it means they were either sheep, too stupid to thoroughly consider their opinion beforehand, or simply saying whatever it took to get elected. In none of the previous cases are their positions of any strength or value whatsoever.
What exactly is "impressively stupid" about protesting any of the examples I gave?
See Iraq War protesters. Protesting for a group that you don't have any idea if the majority of that group agree with you (the Iraqi people) is impressively stupid. Protesting on behalf of a group that is overwhelmingly opposed to your viewpoint (members of the US military) is more along the lines of astoundingly stupid.
Or indeed protesting censorship laws that have been mis-represented to the public which is what the GP was talking about?
GP(now GGP) was not speaking to the censorship laws or protesting thereof, he was speaking in defense of his hypothesis that being college-aged is not a bad thing. GGP(now GGGP) fired off a trolling snark at college students and said nothing at all on censorship. OP was the one speaking of censorship laws and the protests thereof and I happen to agree with him. This entire argument is a troll-feeding tangent with little to do with TFA. Fun though.
Historically students also only have half a clue about what they're talking about while protesting. That half being primarily made up of what they were told by leftist professors.
I guess if you think about it though, talking someone into doing something impressively stupid without enough, or even correct, information is a good way to teach critical thinking.
Ask Google what site they were sent to for that exploit then go around visiting it on as many computers as you can find at work. Something will definitely change.
I'd say it's more along the lines of:
Linus already has all the tinkering he could ever want right in front of him; adding a phone to the mix would just be redundant.
Capitalism is not the same as Free Market. Regardless of that though, most anything taken to the extreme is a really bad idea and causes more problems than it solves. What you do is look at the extreme end of an idea and then back up until the problems it creates have disappeared or are balancing against a worse alternative if you kept backing up.
I think we must have vastly different definitions of what is cheap. To me, asking more for an ebook with zero permanence or physical existence than you are for a paperback is anything but cheap.
Of course you could have been talking about pirated ebooks, in which case nevermind.
Pretty flamish but I have to agree. Take a paperback at $5-8, remove the permanence by making it digital, restrict how/where/when it can be used, and then try to charge me two to three times what I have to pay for paperbacks? Yeah, thanks but no thanks. I'll keep buying hardcopy and if I want it in ebook form I'll pirate it until they drop their prices to around 20% of paperback price.
Yeah and a bungee cord is easier to hold your front door closed with than a deadbolt or even a standard doorknob but you'd still have to be a fucking moron to use one.
Nothing humans do is any more unnatural than ants making tunnels or chimps using sticks as tools. Just because we have consciousness does not mean we get to proclaim ourselves superior to and ungoverned by nature. Unless you're an Intelligent Design type, then you might have an argument.
Eh, I don't give a rat's ass about the game really. My annoyance (I gave up getting outraged over things on the Internet a long time ago) was for the twit assuming that everyone had a fast, stable Internet connection. Or even had the possibility of having one available to them.
You'd be surprised. Living out in the sticks where there simply is no broadband doesn't really have anything to do with whether you enjoy some quality video game carnage.
Horseshit. Around forty percent of the US still do not have broadband and dial-up has never been reliable about disconnects. Even on broadband, if your line quality isn't top notch you're looking at a complete inability to play the games for hours at a time. That is not an experience I'd care to pay money for.
Network admins are evil by default, Microsoft or not. Most of them aren't nearly as creatively hilarious as this though.
Yeah.. um... huh?
Everything sucks rocks (and quite a few other things) trying to run OpenOffice. It makes MSOffice look blazingly fast and I absolutely hate saying anything less than derogatory about MS.
Fair nuff. I'll be more precise with my terms next time.
Ha! See, now there's a response worthy of a thread that's a tangential troll of the OP. My point is mostly that college students are still barely informed idiots, and will be until they start thinking for themselves based on more than what a teacher/professor/TA/hot chick they want to nail/etc... tells them.
No disagreement here.
I'll grant you the first two years weren't voluntary, and possibly even some of those recalled from IRR (though they knew this could be done, it's in their contract and explained when they sign it), but the majority were entirely voluntary knowing exactly what they would be doing.
Buncha fair-weather asshats, yep. Not that I disagree that we should have paid for the war at the time instead of running up debt. I simply said so at the time and feel quite justified whenever the need strikes me to bitch about that rather than the other overspending Bush and now Obama have done.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if the young tend to be more liberal than the old, and students are primarily young, doesn't it follow that students tend to be more liberal than the national average? You kind of made my point for me there. I'll give you a pass though being as you posted in the middle of the night where I live and quite possibly either had a surplus of alcohol or deficit of caffeine in your system at the time.
I'm sorry, you thought I was spouting a talking point? Sorry, no. You'll have to make do with facts and well thought out arguments. Citation needed? Here you go.
Oh my! You mean fighting an oppressive government isn't a hallmark of the left, even when they're not even when they're not actually being oppressed? Yes, I'd say exactly like that. I just happen to agree with them in those cases. Not having thought out your argument worth a damn doesn't mean you're necessarily wrong, e.g., Sean Hannity. Sean's so stupid it hurts to listen to him. Even when he's right in his position it's for completely the wrong reasons.
Yes. Again, exactly like that. The students protesting that war almost certainly sacrificed little or nothing to the war effort. They protested on behalf of an Iraqi public whose opinion on the matter they didn't care to know and on behalf of the soldiers who volunteered to fight the war. Well thought out, yeah?
Absofuckinglutely. Unless I missed it where all kinds of conservatives were shouting out against the war? I discount the buyer's remorse crowd because it means they were either sheep, too stupid to thoroughly consider their opinion beforehand, or simply saying whatever it took to get elected. In none of the previous cases are their positions of any strength or value whatsoever.
See Iraq War protesters. Protesting for a group that you don't have any idea if the majority of that group agree with you (the Iraqi people) is impressively stupid. Protesting on behalf of a group that is overwhelmingly opposed to your viewpoint (members of the US military) is more along the lines of astoundingly stupid.
GP(now GGP) was not speaking to the censorship laws or protesting thereof, he was speaking in defense of his hypothesis that being college-aged is not a bad thing. GGP(now GGGP) fired off a trolling snark at college students and said nothing at all on censorship. OP was the one speaking of censorship laws and the protests thereof and I happen to agree with him. This entire argument is a troll-feeding tangent with little to do with TFA. Fun though.
Historically students also only have half a clue about what they're talking about while protesting. That half being primarily made up of what they were told by leftist professors.
I guess if you think about it though, talking someone into doing something impressively stupid without enough, or even correct, information is a good way to teach critical thinking.
Ask Google what site they were sent to for that exploit then go around visiting it on as many computers as you can find at work. Something will definitely change.
More importantly, how does it affect those of us who only wear a beard in the winter for the added facial warmth?
Exactly, AC should be rejoicing that we'll have to go back to actual humor instead of 4chan humor.
No, they're obviously trying to crowdsource their network infrastructure load testing.
Here, same as always.
I'd say it's more along the lines of:
Linus already has all the tinkering he could ever want right in front of him; adding a phone to the mix would just be redundant.
That's GNECK/Beard, you insensitive clod!
Capitalism is not the same as Free Market. Regardless of that though, most anything taken to the extreme is a really bad idea and causes more problems than it solves. What you do is look at the extreme end of an idea and then back up until the problems it creates have disappeared or are balancing against a worse alternative if you kept backing up.
I think we must have vastly different definitions of what is cheap. To me, asking more for an ebook with zero permanence or physical existence than you are for a paperback is anything but cheap.
Of course you could have been talking about pirated ebooks, in which case nevermind.
Pretty flamish but I have to agree. Take a paperback at $5-8, remove the permanence by making it digital, restrict how/where/when it can be used, and then try to charge me two to three times what I have to pay for paperbacks? Yeah, thanks but no thanks. I'll keep buying hardcopy and if I want it in ebook form I'll pirate it until they drop their prices to around 20% of paperback price.
And here I thought I might be the only one annoyed at the whole grub2/upstart mess.