The lack of standrads make things hard for the begginer. But it's usefull in terms of keeping the customer prisioner. That's how things work. We can all agree to emulate some implementation and make it a de-facto standard OR we can develop our own standard, make it open and convince producers to follow it. One way is wide and straight, the other is narrow and difficult...but we all know what we will find in the end. There's only some KEY FEATURES, that nobody follows: a) EASE OF USE b) SIMPLICITY
you can keep ading things here, but all refers to the same 2 things.
Obviously no project has achieved this two goals, because today "people like my mother" has a lot of trouble using computers.
YOU: "Yes Mom, I fixed that thing" MOM: "How did you do it?..What was wrong?" YOU: "Well, I just went to the Control Panel, and in the Networking Section y just fixed the IP number in the TCP/IP bar and changed it to 192. 168.X.X and then switched the Gateway to 192.168.X.1" MOM: ?????? YOU: Well...forget it now it's OK
As you see...the "Networking Options" in Windows are less than intuitive for the begginer. It would be expected that EVERY OPTION for a given subject would be presented in ONE PLACE. Those upper tags are more than disturbing for a newbie because leads to them in believing that represent DIFFERENT THINGS. This key design mistake has been copied by almost every UI. "Kill those bars, are just confusing people!!!" Gnome, KDE...Please!! stop copying errors!!!
Mr. Lucas has learned as the years went on since the first trilogy was relased, he was capable of keep making money from it. We, the stupid consumers, pay for anything "new", no matter if it is useless or not. We teached the lesson! Now, in a very smart move, Lucas delays the DVD relase of his picture in order to make the consumer, specially the Star Wars Fan, to pay/rent the movie now (maybe several times), and then relase the "New Thing", in this case, DVD and get profit again, years from now...
I would like to think that Lucas don't relase the PM DVD because he wants to fight a holy war against the stupid DVD encryption/zoning fiasco. But I know that his reasons are more economic than anything else.
I can't judge this behavior as bad. I think that if it works for him, it's OK, it's his movie and his money. But I'm sure I won't buy a DVD player, so I'll never be able to buy PM or any movie in that format. It's my little act of protest.
I have not seen any Star Blazers episode. In the pre-globalization era, many things didn't went around the globe as fast as today. But I do remember Robotech...Oh! Yes I do!!! I still wonder If there's some place selling Robotech entire collection...I would pay for it... I know "alternative" places to get Robotech VHS's, but AFAIK, they are low quality, and I'm not that kind of person.
Last thing...can anybody recomend me to download Star Blazers videos? Does it worth my time being a Robotech fan?
I actually was thinking in Sigmas's forthcomming products. I personally prefer cheap HW decoders than crappy SW decoding. That's the only way I have to turn an old computer into a Linux-Home Movie Theatre.;)
That's my philosophy when It comes to buying hardware. I hope that people at Sigma will learn and start thinking about relasing drivers to their cards. The idea is: We can do it with or without them.
-PeptoBismol (litres). -Notebook w/extra batteries. -Linux CD's -TUX Tatoo -Beer -GPS (just for holding something electronic while you hike) -Gb's of MP3's (have you ever noted that suddenly there's silence and you hear a guy asking "Did someone bring some music?" -Power Adapters (You never got one of them when on the road) -Tools (It's frustrating trying to open a notebook with a knife) -A signed note from your family were they certify their understanding of what means "Linuxbierwanderung".
Join our campaign to ban the Use of Darwin at schools. Help us to stop this hidden campaign to introduce this satanic, evolutionist, darwinian propaganda in the virgin minds of our kids. We all know that God (tm) is the creator of everything: Kernels, GUIs, Window Managers, OS. He also created the whole Internet, when he sent his own flesh (Al Gore). He created everything in 6 days and he did everything perfect. Our society don't need this kind of crap!!!
Call our troll free number 1-800-GOD and tell us if any kid in your classroom has already downloaded this satanic tool. You can get free Windows CDs, Windows T-Shirts and Microsoft shares.
Pinkerton People: Why, instead of prosecuting people on the sole basis that they are "different", attract those students using your "gifts & rewards" money to bring them talks, workshops and activities of their like? I go back in time, and I fell school would be much more interesting if I could attend to a "Java Workshop" instead of a "Football Championship".
I'm not sure if I want to see MacroViruses in Linux... Maybe Microsoft just want to extinguish many Office Packages that has grown around because of their multi-platform capabilities. Anyway, If it's from Microsoft, I can only expect some trick to hurt competition. But that is only a feeling...
Many third world countries still use DOS as it's operating system. Let's be real, not every country can afford $1200 systems to load $250 Operating Systems just to start rebuilding their old DOS apps written in Fox or Clipper or whatever...
Anyway, I still want to know how good has became sound and joystick support in 1.0..err...well...some people in third world countries still likes those old dos games...
Congratulations dosemu team!
<flame> Yes, a 30 years old OS, emulating a 20 years Old OS, that's far stable that those supposed 0 years old OS that perform worse than 10 years ago... </flame>
I don't get it...as described in their page... The called "Patented Type Enforcement Security" is just a re-implementation of protection domains... So, what's new about it? and how is it going to make "EVERYTHING" secure?? AFAIK, the whole idea of protection domains is to make "programs" run in it's enviroment without screwing the next door's process...(some toy OS forget this issue). But this doesn't mean that nobody will find it's way into the server, in whatever protection domain he/she gained acces and screw things up anyway...so, where's the ultrasecure thing about this???
I don't get it...as described in their page... The called "Patented Type Enforcement Security" is just a re-implementation of protection domains... So, what's new about it? and how is it going to make "EVERYTHING" secure?? AFAIK, the whole idea of protection domains is to make "programs" run in it's enviroment without screwing the next door's process...(some toy OS forget this issue). But this doesn't mean that nobody will find it's way into the server, in whatever protection domain he/she gained acces and screw things up anyway...so, where's the ultrasecure thing??? Maybe I'm missing a point...enlighthen me...
I'm happy that space agencies and researchers in general understood the importance of funding to make serious investigation. The humanity, (that people out there who don't care a sh*t about investigation) don't like governments spending money in space investigation. That's why whe are almost in the 21st century and we went as far as 40 years ago...Voyager, Mariner, Apollo...what the hell have we done to understand our universe? Lifting a telescope? Yes, I know, it's good and I like it, Hubble gives us a lot of information and nice backgrounds to our desktops, but...Whe are far from making "real" travels across our solar system...I mean, with people actually going somewhere. BUT if researchers use the magic word ("Martian") cash flows into research.
I guess the humanity (in a whole) is like a bunch of idiots still waiting to know if there are little green people in mars. So if it's that what people want...keep looking for Martians (bacteria, green people or whatever).
Poor Carl Sagan...He wouldn't see something interesting even if he would live 100 more years...
I think, like many geeks maybe, that the only way to do things right is doing them myself OR contract somebody like me to do it. Some day, a wire to get my linux and bsd boxes connected to the internet would be cheap, and my ecommerce site will be up as long as I pay a sub 30$ bill to a fair company that will give me a quality service. Until that, I fell that we well see MANY more hosting providers messing our lives. There's a still a long way to go, I know...
I still remember a case about reverse engeniering of console games (nintendo or something) made by accolade (but I'm not sure)...but the idea was similar. Some guys (accolade?) reversed some part of the code of a game console ROM to be able to produce games for that console. The console's company sued the game company and the game company alleged "Fair Use" and won.
I trust this kind of tests as I trust the tests my girlfriend rips off from Cosmopolitan and Elle.
A test that tries to link a single fact with a single source to made a biased conlcusion.
Let's say: In highschool I was a Loner, because I could not integrate with the rest of the people because 70% of them were on drougs and I did not like that. I formed a small circle of clean people and we where the target for jokes and the like. My self esteem was dynamic, some weeks high and others low, as any adolescent. I liked weapons, especially War Airplanes, and WW2 history...I readed many books about and I still do it. I play Quake and Unreal in a weekly basis with friends (lan parties). The difference is that now some of them bring their wifes and babies, and we dring less beer and more bourbon. My school marks were awfull since I started working, because I needed money. My house, as every one I know can be labeled "dysfunctional". No drugs...thanks god. No attention seeking, but don't like clueless people, trying to take attention, to criticise my solids point of view.
Well, In this "Gilrlie Magazine" Test, I'm a psycho ready to kill...
And now I understand why agencies are so useless to prevent incidents, they think they can make a "Mosaic" of people, that everybody is a cloned entity and all act and react the same... They are really clueless and I thank god that I graduated a long time ago...
Next week's FBI test will let us find "The Perfect Lover Profile Test" two pages after the "Millenium Linguini Recipe" and just before the "New Trends for next Winter"...Don't miss the interview with Brad Pitt!!
Why in the earth should we use this? Why not enabling a "simple script" (TM) to search your/home/ftp/pub and post it contents to a central server, and then making another "simple script" (TM) to connect to that server and make searchs on it? Why reinvent the wheel? (or the ftpd in this case)
I'm sorry, I don't buy...
Leave your opinion about starting a project like this, but opensourced...I know there are many maniacs around there..
Remember Al Gore invented the internet, and thanks to his visionary mind, we are all now enjoying e-mail and web pages, that of course were also invented by Al Gore. (Oh! I almost forget it!!, Al Gore also invented ALGORithms) Also remember that Microsoft invented GUI, and the windows concept, thanks to the innovation that Microsoft has brought to our lives, we live in a better world. We can actually write letters in our computers!! Thanks Microsoft!
So why we worry, Al Gore is just teaming up with people like him, because I'm sure that, when his political life is over, he will join Microsoft to make our world even better! I'm confident about Al! He's my life model!!
First I want to state something: I Hate Spam I used to be a fierce anti-spammer. Now, I'm more flexible... In a civiliced society, unsolicited mail should be clearly marked so the "potential" customer could choose to open it or dump it. In our society that doesn't happen. What's more likely to happen in our society is that, when one regulation forbids or regulates some kind of communication, then ANY kind of communication can be forbidden. I don't want nobody telling me what I can mail, so I will forgive those ugly spammers, tighten my filters and continue living. Regulations usually fuck up people's rights... (But a "spam" tag in the headers of mails would be great...isn't it?)
Slashdot readers and "posters" are a group of widely different persons, ranging from adolescents to senior proffesionals. Extracting the dumbest comments on the threads and "cuting & pasting" them in an article is very biased and unethic. I really don't care about mass media (you), and I think journalists are usefull idiots who casually have the same point of view of your editorial. If the editorial change it's point of view, journalists are just discarded or converted to the new dogma. I know that, you know that and your readers know that (hey, we all agree!) But this is MY PERSONAL point of view, and not necesarilly means that every person who writes something in slashdot thinks the same. As you see, common people is not enforced to think and write in a determinated way...we are IT professionals, techies, geeks or just "nerds" who use a different scale to measure things. We are not a bunch of stupid people saying "Windoze SuKs, BiLL Gate$ is EvIL!" There are a tons of more interesting things to report from here...If your judgment is still clean and you are not worried of terminating your usefullness cycle in a particular publication.
Just my 0.02$ comment not so anonymous, find me as snullo at yahoo dot com
Linux is quickly getting fantastic games. RRT is a good example. I'm of the old school of stratergy games and I really liked it. But games like Quake3 and Unreal Tournament are just fantastic. (if you own a 3dfx...) I would like to see some other major game developers to work on Linux versions of their games.
Linux is slowly but firmly getting to the point that even my mother can write her notes and my 4 years old son can have fun. And none of them can mess my work or the whole system.
I mostly agree. But in some ways...now, right now, Corel is making a mistake, probably because of those middle managment levels that are hard to reorinet when a company tries to change it's philosophy in a radical way.
I understand the Mozilla problem, is hard to get people working in something apparently useless. But if Corel is about to lunch a beta, I can't imagine that they're launching a useless distribution that actually will be reviewed and commented by thousends of magazines and journalists. So, the case is really different from Mozilla's... The real issue here is that Corel is slowly making a hughe culture change on their company. Not only the culture, goals and methods to achieve it are changing. And those changes are always seen first by upper managment and in this case, the general public. Not by middle components of the company... WE expect to see a open source Corel, THEY want to be a open source Corel, but if they not redefine clearly their methods, THEY will fail to be what they wanna be, because WE will not see it...sounds tricky but it's quite simple. Other companies that just relase their products for Linux are not critiziced, because they never show to the public a desire to be open source. If Corel says: "I'll port all my products to Linux"...it's OK, but if they say: "We will relase an Open Source distro", and then they licence it propietary...there's a hughe mistake from them. I like Corel, but they need time and criticism from the public.
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The lack of standrads make things hard for the begginer. But it's usefull in terms of keeping the customer prisioner. That's how things work.
We can all agree to emulate some implementation and make it a de-facto standard OR we can develop our own standard, make it open and convince producers to follow it.
One way is wide and straight, the other is narrow and difficult...but we all know what we will find in the end.
There's only some KEY FEATURES, that nobody follows:
a) EASE OF USE
b) SIMPLICITY
you can keep ading things here, but all refers to the same 2 things.
Obviously no project has achieved this two goals, because today "people like my mother" has a lot of trouble using computers.
YOU: "Yes Mom, I fixed that thing"
MOM: "How did you do it?..What was wrong?"
YOU: "Well, I just went to the Control Panel, and in the Networking Section y just fixed the IP number in the TCP/IP bar and changed it to 192.
168.X.X and then switched the Gateway to 192.168.X.1"
MOM: ??????
YOU: Well...forget it now it's OK
As you see...the "Networking Options" in Windows are less than intuitive for the begginer. It would be expected that EVERY OPTION for a given subject would be presented in ONE PLACE. Those upper tags are more than disturbing for a newbie because leads to them in believing that represent DIFFERENT THINGS. This key design mistake has been copied by almost every UI.
"Kill those bars, are just confusing people!!!"
Gnome, KDE...Please!! stop copying errors!!!
Mr. Lucas has learned as the years went on since the first trilogy was relased, he was capable of keep making money from it.
We, the stupid consumers, pay for anything "new", no matter if it is useless or not. We teached the lesson!
Now, in a very smart move, Lucas delays the DVD relase of his picture in order to make the consumer, specially the Star Wars Fan, to pay/rent the movie now (maybe several times), and then relase the "New Thing", in this case, DVD and get profit again, years from now...
I would like to think that Lucas don't relase the PM DVD because he wants to fight a holy war against the stupid DVD encryption/zoning fiasco. But I know that his reasons are more economic than anything else.
I can't judge this behavior as bad. I think that if it works for him, it's OK, it's his movie and his money.
But I'm sure I won't buy a DVD player, so I'll never be able to buy PM or any movie in that format. It's my little act of protest.
I have not seen any Star Blazers episode.
In the pre-globalization era, many things didn't went around the globe as fast as today.
But I do remember Robotech...Oh! Yes I do!!!
I still wonder If there's some place selling Robotech entire collection...I would pay for it...
I know "alternative" places to get Robotech VHS's, but AFAIK, they are low quality, and I'm not that kind of person.
Last thing...can anybody recomend me to download Star Blazers videos? Does it worth my time being a Robotech fan?
I actually was thinking in Sigmas's forthcomming products. ;)
I personally prefer cheap HW decoders than crappy SW decoding. That's the only way I have to turn an old computer into a Linux-Home Movie Theatre.
That's my philosophy when It comes to buying hardware.
I hope that people at Sigma will learn and start thinking about relasing drivers to their cards.
The idea is: We can do it with or without them.
-PeptoBismol (litres).
-Notebook w/extra batteries.
-Linux CD's
-TUX Tatoo
-Beer
-GPS (just for holding something electronic while you hike)
-Gb's of MP3's (have you ever noted that suddenly there's silence and you hear a guy asking "Did someone bring some music?"
-Power Adapters (You never got one of them when on the road)
-Tools (It's frustrating trying to open a notebook with a knife)
-A signed note from your family were they certify their understanding of what means "Linuxbierwanderung".
Join our campaign to ban the Use of Darwin at schools.
Help us to stop this hidden campaign to introduce this satanic, evolutionist, darwinian propaganda in the virgin minds of our kids.
We all know that God (tm) is the creator of everything: Kernels, GUIs, Window Managers, OS. He also created the whole Internet, when he sent his own flesh (Al Gore). He created everything in 6 days and he did everything perfect. Our society don't need this kind of crap!!!
Call our troll free number 1-800-GOD and tell us if any kid in your classroom has already downloaded this satanic tool. You can get free Windows CDs, Windows T-Shirts and Microsoft shares.
Pinkerton People:
Why, instead of prosecuting people on the sole basis that they are "different", attract those students using your "gifts & rewards" money to bring them talks, workshops and activities of their like?
I go back in time, and I fell school would be much more interesting if I could attend to a "Java Workshop" instead of a "Football Championship".
I'm not sure if I want to see MacroViruses in Linux... Maybe Microsoft just want to extinguish many Office Packages that has grown around because of their multi-platform capabilities. Anyway, If it's from Microsoft, I can only expect some trick to hurt competition. But that is only a feeling...
Many third world countries still use DOS as it's operating system. Let's be real, not every country can afford $1200 systems to load $250 Operating Systems just to start rebuilding their old DOS apps written in Fox or Clipper or whatever...
..err...well...some people in third world countries still likes those old dos games...
Anyway, I still want to know how good has became sound and joystick support in 1.0
Congratulations dosemu team!
<flame>
Yes, a 30 years old OS, emulating a 20 years Old OS, that's far stable that those supposed 0 years old OS that perform worse than 10 years ago...
</flame>
I don't get it...as described in their page...
The called "Patented Type Enforcement Security" is just a re-implementation of protection domains...
So, what's new about it? and how is it going to make "EVERYTHING" secure??
AFAIK, the whole idea of protection domains is to make "programs" run in it's enviroment without screwing the next door's process...(some toy OS forget this issue).
But this doesn't mean that nobody will find it's way into the server, in whatever protection domain he/she gained acces and screw things up anyway...so, where's the ultrasecure thing about this???
I don't get it...as described in their page...
The called "Patented Type Enforcement Security" is just a re-implementation of protection domains...
So, what's new about it? and how is it going to make "EVERYTHING" secure??
AFAIK, the whole idea of protection domains is to make "programs" run in it's enviroment without screwing the next door's process...(some toy OS forget this issue).
But this doesn't mean that nobody will find it's way into the server, in whatever protection domain he/she gained acces and screw things up anyway...so, where's the ultrasecure thing??? Maybe I'm missing a point...enlighthen me...
I'm happy that space agencies and researchers in general understood the importance of funding to make serious investigation.
The humanity, (that people out there who don't care a sh*t about investigation) don't like governments spending money in space investigation. That's why whe are almost in the 21st century and we went as far as 40 years ago...Voyager, Mariner, Apollo...what the hell have we done to understand our universe?
Lifting a telescope? Yes, I know, it's good and I like it, Hubble gives us a lot of information and nice backgrounds to our desktops, but...Whe are far from making "real" travels across our solar system...I mean, with people actually going somewhere.
BUT if researchers use the magic word ("Martian") cash flows into research.
I guess the humanity (in a whole) is like a bunch of idiots still waiting to know if there are little green people in mars.
So if it's that what people want...keep looking for Martians (bacteria, green people or whatever).
Poor Carl Sagan...He wouldn't see something interesting even if he would live 100 more years...
I think, like many geeks maybe, that the only way to do things right is doing them myself OR contract somebody like me to do it.
Some day, a wire to get my linux and bsd boxes connected to the internet would be cheap, and my ecommerce site will be up as long as I pay a sub 30$ bill to a fair company that will give me a quality service.
Until that, I fell that we well see MANY more hosting providers messing our lives.
There's a still a long way to go, I know...
I still remember a case about reverse engeniering of console games (nintendo or something) made by accolade (but I'm not sure)...but the idea was similar. Some guys (accolade?) reversed some part of the code of a game console ROM to be able to produce games for that console.
The console's company sued the game company and the game company alleged "Fair Use" and won.
I trust this kind of tests as I trust the tests my girlfriend rips off from Cosmopolitan and Elle.
A test that tries to link a single fact with a single source to made a biased conlcusion.
Let's say:
In highschool I was a Loner, because I could not integrate with the rest of the people because 70% of them were on drougs and I did not like that.
I formed a small circle of clean people and we where the target for jokes and the like.
My self esteem was dynamic, some weeks high and others low, as any adolescent.
I liked weapons, especially War Airplanes, and WW2 history...I readed many books about and I still do it.
I play Quake and Unreal in a weekly basis with friends (lan parties). The difference is that now some of them bring their wifes and babies, and we dring less beer and more bourbon.
My school marks were awfull since I started working, because I needed money.
My house, as every one I know can be labeled "dysfunctional".
No drugs...thanks god.
No attention seeking, but don't like clueless people, trying to take attention, to criticise my solids point of view.
Well, In this "Gilrlie Magazine" Test, I'm a psycho ready to kill...
And now I understand why agencies are so useless to prevent incidents, they think they can make a "Mosaic" of people, that everybody is a cloned entity and all act and react the same...
They are really clueless and I thank god that I graduated a long time ago...
Next week's FBI test will let us find "The Perfect Lover Profile Test" two pages after the "Millenium Linguini Recipe" and just before the "New Trends for next Winter"...Don't miss the interview with Brad Pitt!!
Why in the earth should we use this? /home/ftp/pub and post it contents to a central server, and then making another "simple script" (TM) to connect to that server and make searchs on it?
Why not enabling a "simple script" (TM) to search your
Why reinvent the wheel? (or the ftpd in this case)
I'm sorry, I don't buy...
Leave your opinion about starting a project like this, but opensourced...I know there are many maniacs around there..
Remember Al Gore invented the internet, and thanks to his visionary mind, we are all now enjoying e-mail and web pages, that of course were also invented by Al Gore. (Oh! I almost forget it!!, Al Gore also invented ALGORithms)
Also remember that Microsoft invented GUI, and the windows concept, thanks to the innovation that Microsoft has brought to our lives, we live in a better world. We can actually write letters in our computers!! Thanks Microsoft!
So why we worry, Al Gore is just teaming up with people like him, because I'm sure that, when his political life is over, he will join Microsoft to make our world even better!
I'm confident about Al! He's my life model!!
Thanks Al!!
I just can't stop voting for you!!!
First I want to state something: I Hate Spam I used to be a fierce anti-spammer. Now, I'm more flexible... In a civiliced society, unsolicited mail should be clearly marked so the "potential" customer could choose to open it or dump it. In our society that doesn't happen. What's more likely to happen in our society is that, when one regulation forbids or regulates some kind of communication, then ANY kind of communication can be forbidden. I don't want nobody telling me what I can mail, so I will forgive those ugly spammers, tighten my filters and continue living. Regulations usually fuck up people's rights... (But a "spam" tag in the headers of mails would be great...isn't it?)
Slashdot readers and "posters" are a group of widely different persons, ranging from adolescents to senior proffesionals.
Extracting the dumbest comments on the threads and "cuting & pasting" them in an article is very biased and unethic.
I really don't care about mass media (you), and I think journalists are usefull idiots who casually have the same point of view of your editorial. If the editorial change it's point of view, journalists are just discarded or converted to the new dogma.
I know that, you know that and your readers know that (hey, we all agree!)
But this is MY PERSONAL point of view, and not necesarilly means that every person who writes something in slashdot thinks the same. As you see, common people is not enforced to think and write in a determinated way...we are IT professionals, techies, geeks or just "nerds" who use a different scale to measure things.
We are not a bunch of stupid people saying "Windoze SuKs, BiLL Gate$ is EvIL!"
There are a tons of more interesting things to report from here...If your judgment is still clean and you are not worried of terminating your usefullness cycle in a particular publication.
Just my 0.02$ comment
not so anonymous, find me as snullo at yahoo dot com
Linux is quickly getting fantastic games.
RRT is a good example. I'm of the old school of stratergy games and I really liked it.
But games like Quake3 and Unreal Tournament are just fantastic. (if you own a 3dfx...)
I would like to see some other major game developers to work on Linux versions of their games.
Linux is slowly but firmly getting to the point that even my mother can write her notes and my 4 years old son can have fun. And none of them can mess my work or the whole system.
Wich kind of metrics did you use to choose Linux as the "Crown" Web Server? Certainly, money is not a restriction when we speak of the British Crown.
But what else can you expect from C-net...
I mostly agree. But in some ways...now, right now, Corel is making a mistake, probably because of those middle managment levels that are hard to reorinet when a company tries to change it's philosophy in a radical way.
I understand the Mozilla problem, is hard to get people working in something apparently useless. But if Corel is about to lunch a beta, I can't imagine that they're launching a useless distribution that actually will be reviewed and commented by thousends of magazines and journalists.
So, the case is really different from Mozilla's...
The real issue here is that Corel is slowly making a hughe culture change on their company. Not only the culture, goals and methods to achieve it are changing. And those changes are always seen first by upper managment and in this case, the general public. Not by middle components of the company...
WE expect to see a open source Corel, THEY want to be a open source Corel, but if they not redefine clearly their methods, THEY will fail to be what they wanna be, because WE will not see it...sounds tricky but it's quite simple.
Other companies that just relase their products for Linux are not critiziced, because they never show to the public a desire to be open source.
If Corel says: "I'll port all my products to Linux"...it's OK, but if they say: "We will relase an Open Source distro", and then they licence it propietary...there's a hughe mistake from them.
I like Corel, but they need time and criticism from the public.