I'm sorry, I hate to say something good about an MS product, but this kinda thing dosen't happen. Perhaps you have substandard hardware? What kind of servers do you use? How familiar are you with NT? I manage over 20 NT servers, some of them offsite - I've only had a problem with one them when a power supply started hiccuping. What do these servers do? Are you running some strange random program from a noname dev shop? Have you applied service packs? The only time I've heard of something similiar was when the Exchange MTA caused 100% CPU utilization for no apparent reason. (Oh yeah, M$' fix was to get a second processor so you could stop the MTA service w/o rebooting!)
I read a while back that the cell phone companies funded research which answers one of your questions (and, IIRC, they found some dangers). Sorry I can't be of more help, but the info is out there.
Resetting your modem to fix ADSL problems? Thats almost as bad as a past T1 circuit provider's solution of resetting a CSU/DSU to fix line problems eventually determined to be caused by dyslexic technicians screwing with our circuit.
Aaaah, but it IS a fair comparison! In the near future, with networked appliances, if some remote control program on your PC crashes, your oven may turn on but not light, and the natural gas detectors may malfunction... imagine your surprise when you walk into your quiet home smoking a (insert item) and cause an explosion that levels the surrounding block. Thats not supposed to happen! That wouldn't have happened if the programmer who wrote the remote control software had been licensed! Augh!
Yeah... according to the docs you can't give ownership back.. with provided tools. If you know the API, you can throw together a program that'll become SYSTEM, then init a thread which will become the user you want and create an empty file with the original attributes. The original thread can open the file admin owns and pass the data to the new thread, which can write it to the file, close the file, *PewF* back to normal. Thats all assuming there isn't some easier way to just change the owner when your original thread is running as SYSTEM. Whew!
Okay, so Gates says if ya don't have a central testing point, things won't work. How 'bout this: if you follow accepted STANDARDS, things will work together fairly well.
Soon Gates might claim that standards aren't any good because people don't follow them, which is obvious to anyone with half a brain because things don't always work together. So then he leads Microsoft down the proprietary track and stomps on our freedoms.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. But look at it this way:
Why buy an OS and a bunch of expensive add-ons if you have a free OS and a bunch of free utilities that do the same thing? Because that other OS, the one that costs money, has a huge marketing department and name recognition behind it.
Sure, my information appliances manage to burn bread, but that will be fixed in the next release, no not service pack, a costly upgrade. Who cares if you can add your oven to the fridge-and-dishwasher network by rolling your own code or downloading someone elses? We have a support staff behind our $400 oven-add-on, and for only $100/hour we'll get you up and running.
For the average consumer, marketing sells. I thought M$ taught us this? Luckily Linux is getting some press, and people are realizing what it means to have a community working on an open project and contributing their time to a worthy cause, that of the common good. Isn't that what America is supposed to be about?
Right, Linus said he dosen't plan on it... but he also mentioned that scaling above 16 processors would require mods that I'm sure could be made into a patch of some sort. MPLinux? A small group of SMP people that follow the latest kernel and apply minor patches to bring it up to par? Couldn't be that difficult =)
seriously, it makes for a great day dosen't it? I've already been the recepient of a dozen strange looks as I've burst out laughing at random times, as I happen across a page in my list of links thats decided it'll play yet another april fool's joke.
Ahhhh, finally. Metalab was terrible, anyway. Good ridance! But, really, the Linus story wasn't very believable to begin with... I guess the slow people will gasp when reading this story. We need one of these days at the start of every month.
The article says they compared the GUID to other GUIDs in documents on the suspect's web site and found that they matched. Still dosen't prove it was him and not a disgruntled script kiddie, but at least it shows how they traced the GUID.
There is a devilish bug system, as anyone who has had the misfortune of doing extensive work with the Win32 API can tell you. Undocumented calls are numerous. There have been quite a few times when I dumped a list of called functions from a DLL, found one with a promising name, and then failed to find any documentation for it. For example, when dealing with kernel mode device drivers & the registry, there are a few f(x)'s missing from MSDN.
Nah, I'm not reading it only for linux... I also read it for the in-depth, unbiased reports and reviews of the latest and greatest hardware. Oh, wait, no... thats Ars Technica. My bad =D
How about you become a site that reprints lots of random, but mostly useless articles, with a user base growing from 10 to 10's of thousands, start alienating users, add a bunch of useless features, forget about broken code, sign on some obnoxious airbags to write bloated editorial pieces, only take story submissions from a small subset of the contributors who also happen to be close friends, develop an elaborate censorship system that dosen't exactly censor, but comes close, and then take a comment like this one and give it a -2389411 score? Oh, and you can call it SlapDash.
Yup. That was my first thought when I saw the wonderfully designed graphics. My two hunches are
a) that they got someone to design it 10 minutes after they were cracked,
b) the cracker has way too much free time and is proficient with Photoshop
c) this was planned, the graphic was developed over a few weeks, was probably finished around the time the "crack our password" announcement was made, and its a poorly planned publicity stunt that anyone with half a brain (granted, thats a small percentage of people) can see through
Your guess is as good as mine.;) But, like Obscure said... the site is still there. Since when do crackers forget to rm -rf, or at least make some minor but noticable changes to random pages throughout the site?
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Good point.
Hey, I resemb^H^Hnt that remark!
Actually, they have... the ability to change your font has appeard in recent versions of notepad )=
Uhm... you should have left the apostrophe out of "Nazi's" as you weren't discussing ownership. The grammatically correct version follows.
People are such grammar Nazis.
Thank you, have a wonderful day =)
I'm sorry, I hate to say something good about an MS product, but this kinda thing dosen't happen. Perhaps you have substandard hardware? What kind of servers do you use? How familiar are you with NT? I manage over 20 NT servers, some of them offsite - I've only had a problem with one them when a power supply started hiccuping. What do these servers do? Are you running some strange random program from a noname dev shop? Have you applied service packs? The only time I've heard of something similiar was when the Exchange MTA caused 100% CPU utilization for no apparent reason. (Oh yeah, M$' fix was to get a second processor so you could stop the MTA service w/o rebooting!)
I read a while back that the cell phone companies funded research which answers one of your questions (and, IIRC, they found some dangers). Sorry I can't be of more help, but the info is out there.
Resetting your modem to fix ADSL problems? Thats almost as bad as a past T1 circuit provider's solution of resetting a CSU/DSU to fix line problems eventually determined to be caused by dyslexic technicians screwing with our circuit.
Aaaah, but it IS a fair comparison! In the near future, with networked appliances, if some remote control program on your PC crashes, your oven may turn on but not light, and the natural gas detectors may malfunction... imagine your surprise when you walk into your quiet home smoking a (insert item) and cause an explosion that levels the surrounding block. Thats not supposed to happen! That wouldn't have happened if the programmer who wrote the remote control software had been licensed! Augh!
Yeah... according to the docs you can't give ownership back.. with provided tools. If you know the API, you can throw together a program that'll become SYSTEM, then init a thread which will become the user you want and create an empty file with the original attributes. The original thread can open the file admin owns and pass the data to the new thread, which can write it to the file, close the file, *PewF* back to normal. Thats all assuming there isn't some easier way to just change the owner when your original thread is running as SYSTEM. Whew!
Okay, so Gates says if ya don't have a central testing point, things won't work. How 'bout this: if you follow accepted STANDARDS, things will work together fairly well.
Soon Gates might claim that standards aren't any good because people don't follow them, which is obvious to anyone with half a brain because things don't always work together. So then he leads Microsoft down the proprietary track and stomps on our freedoms.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. But look at it this way:
Why buy an OS and a bunch of expensive add-ons if you have a free OS and a bunch of free utilities that do the same thing? Because that other OS, the one that costs money, has a huge marketing department and name recognition behind it.
Sure, my information appliances manage to burn bread, but that will be fixed in the next release, no not service pack, a costly upgrade. Who cares if you can add your oven to the fridge-and-dishwasher network by rolling your own code or downloading someone elses? We have a support staff behind our $400 oven-add-on, and for only $100/hour we'll get you up and running.
For the average consumer, marketing sells. I thought M$ taught us this? Luckily Linux is getting some press, and people are realizing what it means to have a community working on an open project and contributing their time to a worthy cause, that of the common good. Isn't that what America is supposed to be about?
Right, Linus said he dosen't plan on it... but he also mentioned that scaling above 16 processors would require mods that I'm sure could be made into a patch of some sort. MPLinux? A small group of SMP people that follow the latest kernel and apply minor patches to bring it up to par? Couldn't be that difficult =)
we can only hope so =)
seriously, it makes for a great day dosen't it? I've already been the recepient of a dozen strange looks as I've burst out laughing at random times, as I happen across a page in my list of links thats decided it'll play yet another april fool's joke.
Ahhhh, finally. Metalab was terrible, anyway. Good ridance! But, really, the Linus story wasn't very believable to begin with... I guess the slow people will gasp when reading this story. We need one of these days at the start of every month.
=)
And you think people make a full recovery from rape? Have some personal experience to share?
The article says they compared the GUID to other GUIDs in documents on the suspect's web site and found that they matched. Still dosen't prove it was him and not a disgruntled script kiddie, but at least it shows how they traced the GUID.
There is a devilish bug system, as anyone who has had the misfortune of doing extensive work with the Win32 API can tell you. Undocumented calls are numerous. There have been quite a few times when I dumped a list of called functions from a DLL, found one with a promising name, and then failed to find any documentation for it. For example, when dealing with kernel mode device drivers & the registry, there are a few f(x)'s missing from MSDN.
Nah, I'm not reading it only for linux... I also read it for the in-depth, unbiased reports and reviews of the latest and greatest hardware. Oh, wait, no... thats Ars Technica. My bad =D
C'mon, its news to CmdrTaco, so it must be =new= right? Yeah. =) Anywho...
How about you become a site that reprints lots of random, but mostly useless articles, with a user base growing from 10 to 10's of thousands, start alienating users, add a bunch of useless features, forget about broken code, sign on some obnoxious airbags to write bloated editorial pieces, only take story submissions from a small subset of the contributors who also happen to be close friends, develop an elaborate censorship system that dosen't exactly censor, but comes close, and then take a comment like this one and give it a -2389411 score? Oh, and you can call it SlapDash.
=)
Were I a moderator, you'd have a few more +1's on yer post. Lemme check Webster's, I seem to remember that definition from somewhere.
C'mon now, why does Katz get to plug his book every week? Can I do the same for my favorite authors? Its only fair, after all.
Oh yeah - I'm sure everyone has noticed, those fscking ?'s are back. I thought the problem had been solved...? Bah.
/me waits for the judgement of the benevolent moderators
Yup. That was my first thought when I saw the wonderfully designed graphics. My two hunches are
;) But, like Obscure said... the site is still there. Since when do crackers forget to rm -rf, or at least make some minor but noticable changes to random pages throughout the site?
a) that they got someone to design it 10 minutes after they were cracked,
b) the cracker has way too much free time and is proficient with Photoshop
c) this was planned, the graphic was developed over a few weeks, was probably finished around the time the "crack our password" announcement was made, and its a poorly planned publicity stunt that anyone with half a brain (granted, thats a small percentage of people) can see through
Your guess is as good as mine.
Yeah, the posted URL is wrong. Remove the trailing '"' from the Address field up at the top of your browser after you follow the link.
Sounds similiar to how the BSDs are dying.