Well, since the Treo 650 is no longer available, I can only basically compare the 750 to the iPhone.
Memory storage:
750 = 128MB (64MB user accessible), up to 2GB available (sold separately)
iPhone = 4 or 8GB
Processor:
750 = 300MHz Samsung
iPhone = 667MHz ARM (possibly the Samsung S3C6400)
Display:
750 = 240 x 240 (16bit) basic touchscreen
iPhone = 480 x 320 (160dpi) multitouch
Weight:
750 = 154 grams
iPhone = 135 grams
OS:
750 = Windows Mobile
iPhone = OS X
So while it's obvious the Treo has more total features, it's not accurate to say it has "everything" the iPhone does. Though I suppose on a basic level it does. It has a screen. It has memory. It has a processor. I guess to some that's "everything". I was actually quite surprised, for example, that I would need to buy an extra adapter to use 3.5mm stereo headphones, I can't play m4v,.mp4, and.mov files, or that I can't connect with Bluetooth 2.0. The iPhone also claims to have double the amount of talk-time battery life, though the stand-bye hours claims are similar. In any case, this is just a cursory comparison. I know that there are other things the this Treo can't offer, just as there are feature the iPhone doesn't have yet. But it's really not accurate to claim that the Treo has everything the iPhone does, because it clearly does not.
And no I was not be "obtuse", nor was I being bumptious.
Your Treo does wifi and has a touch screen? And how much does the "sold separately" expansion card for the MP3 player hold? Does it also run OS X? That screen sure is big. Watch movies on it do you?
Please pardon my ignorance, but just because a bill passes committee does that automatically make it law? Doesn't it have to go to a full vote in the Senate first? And since it appears to have originated in the Senate, wouldn't it also have to pass the House too?
I no longer know a single person who uses Hotmail for their personal email account (not there aren't a few left who do, but I don't know them). In fact I'm pretty sure that Hotmail's raison d'etre is spam. It is the home of spammers. So I really don't care what MS does with it because it is to me a worthless service anyway.
"Yeah, except Edmonton (where U of Alberta is) doesn't get Chinooks.
Just one of the many, many reasons why Calgary is better than Edmonton."
Baloney. Edmonton gets Chinooks, just not as many. And stop with the childish my-city-is-better-than-your-city nonsense. You're all Albertans, be proud of that fact.
It's not about their basic service, which works just fine. It's about the value-added services, which you are paying for but can't use if you don't use Windows or IE or WMP.
Example: You can't watch streaming hockey on your Mac even if you use the outdated WMP 9 for Mac (or Flip4Mac) because the connection scripts the stream uses only work with Windows versions of WMP. It used to work with a complicated work around, so the next season they changed it so the stream address was masked to prevent all but Windows users from connecting. This is just one example of how the extra services they provide as part of your broadband package are geared towards Windows users only.
"Couple that with people who don't live in AT&T's serviceable area"
This would be a relatively small percentage of people since AT+T covers most of the US including almost all of Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Anchorage Alaska.
"I could, quite frankly, care less if I had an iPhone with a Sprint logo on it."
No, but Apple does. There are no logos other than Apple's on an iPhone. From what I understand, Apple initially approached the other providers about making a deal and was turned down by all except AT&T.
Why the sarcasm? And where does TFA say anything about "better"?
Apple did exactly this with the original iPod. They released two smaller, substantially less expensive versions of it. What makes you think they won't follow the same business plan with the iPhone?
"They are happy to admit that officially they spy on and steal trade secrets from their own allies for the commercial gain of French industry, specifically."
Well good to know you have made your own definition then. Personally, I'd rather take the advice of the other posters in this thread who have offered cogent insights into the real meaning of this horribly overused insult.
I thought the "correct" definition is that "fanboy" (or its alternative "fanboi") is an informal derogatory term for "obsessive male fan, usually of movies, science fiction or comic books." (Oxford American Dictionary).
Given this definition, just coming to a forum and talking about a topic you enjoy doesn't make you a fanboy.
How is this any different than the CIA? The French are trying to protect their information while doing their best to collect it from other countries. This is no different than any other Western country is it?
"Whaling has always been a prominent source of food for Alaskans, and is monitored by the International Whaling Commission. A hunting quota for the Alaska Eskimo Whaling Commission was recently renewed, allowing 255 whales to be harvested by 10 Alaskan villages over five years."
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Well, since the Treo 650 is no longer available, I can only basically compare the 750 to the iPhone.
.mp4, and .mov files, or that I can't connect with Bluetooth 2.0. The iPhone also claims to have double the amount of talk-time battery life, though the stand-bye hours claims are similar. In any case, this is just a cursory comparison. I know that there are other things the this Treo can't offer, just as there are feature the iPhone doesn't have yet. But it's really not accurate to claim that the Treo has everything the iPhone does, because it clearly does not.
Memory storage:
750 = 128MB (64MB user accessible), up to 2GB available (sold separately)
iPhone = 4 or 8GB
Processor:
750 = 300MHz Samsung
iPhone = 667MHz ARM (possibly the Samsung S3C6400)
Display:
750 = 240 x 240 (16bit) basic touchscreen
iPhone = 480 x 320 (160dpi) multitouch
Weight:
750 = 154 grams
iPhone = 135 grams
OS:
750 = Windows Mobile
iPhone = OS X
So while it's obvious the Treo has more total features, it's not accurate to say it has "everything" the iPhone does. Though I suppose on a basic level it does. It has a screen. It has memory. It has a processor. I guess to some that's "everything". I was actually quite surprised, for example, that I would need to buy an extra adapter to use 3.5mm stereo headphones, I can't play m4v,
And no I was not be "obtuse", nor was I being bumptious.
"My Treo 650 can do everything the iPhone can"
Your Treo does wifi and has a touch screen? And how much does the "sold separately" expansion card for the MP3 player hold? Does it also run OS X? That screen sure is big. Watch movies on it do you?
Macs would still be running OS9 and trying to get their "new" OS out the door.
"I've never gotten such spam."
How do you know? Do you actually read all your spam?
Please pardon my ignorance, but just because a bill passes committee does that automatically make it law? Doesn't it have to go to a full vote in the Senate first? And since it appears to have originated in the Senate, wouldn't it also have to pass the House too?
I no longer know a single person who uses Hotmail for their personal email account (not there aren't a few left who do, but I don't know them). In fact I'm pretty sure that Hotmail's raison d'etre is spam. It is the home of spammers. So I really don't care what MS does with it because it is to me a worthless service anyway.
"Yeah, except Edmonton (where U of Alberta is) doesn't get Chinooks.
Just one of the many, many reasons why Calgary is better than Edmonton."
Baloney. Edmonton gets Chinooks, just not as many. And stop with the childish my-city-is-better-than-your-city nonsense. You're all Albertans, be proud of that fact.
Why yes, yes you are missing something.
It's not about their basic service, which works just fine. It's about the value-added services, which you are paying for but can't use if you don't use Windows or IE or WMP.
Example: You can't watch streaming hockey on your Mac even if you use the outdated WMP 9 for Mac (or Flip4Mac) because the connection scripts the stream uses only work with Windows versions of WMP. It used to work with a complicated work around, so the next season they changed it so the stream address was masked to prevent all but Windows users from connecting. This is just one example of how the extra services they provide as part of your broadband package are geared towards Windows users only.
Yes I read it, but I misunderstood it because it appeared at first reading to be sarcasm.
Apologies.
"Couple that with people who don't live in AT&T's serviceable area"
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This would be a relatively small percentage of people since AT+T covers most of the US including almost all of Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Anchorage Alaska.
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer?WT.svl
"I could, quite frankly, care less if I had an iPhone with a Sprint logo on it."
No, but Apple does. There are no logos other than Apple's on an iPhone. From what I understand, Apple initially approached the other providers about making a deal and was turned down by all except AT&T.
Why the sarcasm? And where does TFA say anything about "better"?
Apple did exactly this with the original iPod. They released two smaller, substantially less expensive versions of it. What makes you think they won't follow the same business plan with the iPhone?
I'm more concerned about dumping.
Quick! Poke it with a stick!
Deus Ex gets my vote.
"No wireless"
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"They are happy to admit that officially they spy on and steal trade secrets from their own allies for the commercial gain of French industry, specifically."
This sounds like refreshing honesty.
Well good to know you have made your own definition then. Personally, I'd rather take the advice of the other posters in this thread who have offered cogent insights into the real meaning of this horribly overused insult.
I thought the "correct" definition is that "fanboy" (or its alternative "fanboi") is an informal derogatory term for "obsessive male fan, usually of movies, science fiction or comic books." (Oxford American Dictionary).
Given this definition, just coming to a forum and talking about a topic you enjoy doesn't make you a fanboy.
How is this any different than the CIA? The French are trying to protect their information while doing their best to collect it from other countries. This is no different than any other Western country is it?
Overrated for asking a legitimate question? Nice going.
What American could possibly live on less than thirty cents an hour?
Let's see, would that be essential singularity, isolated singularity, mathematical singularity, movable singularity, rational singularity, removable singularity, singularity theory, gravitational singularity, mechanical singularity, Prandtl-Glauert singularity, singularity (climate), or technological singularity?
For what it's worth, TFA also states:
"Whaling has always been a prominent source of food for Alaskans, and is monitored by the International Whaling Commission. A hunting quota for the Alaska Eskimo Whaling Commission was recently renewed, allowing 255 whales to be harvested by 10 Alaskan villages over five years."
They say long pig is better /shrugs
Probably none since it will be coming from an AT&T partner site.