The Linksys BEFSR41 cable/dsl router does a great job on our Verizon "business" dsl at work (which turns out to actually be an identical service to home DSL, aside from the cost). If you get the latest firmware update, it even generates the kind of data that their modems on the other end are looking for to detect non-idle. Before the latest firmware our connection would recycle every hour or so because we were deemed "idle" even though we may be in the middle of a download at the time.
It's a great NAT / firewall box that lets you statically open incoming ports to local machines if you desire, and prevents you from having to have their REALLY SUCKY software installed on your machine.
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no, I meant &, I was showing him how to put a (ampersand) in HTML.
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giggle, and you might want to use & instead of (ampersand)
hehe, beginner's course in HTML... irony is thick =)
An anecdotal example of one situation where college graduates were unable to cut it doesn't really deterministically state that college degrees are worthless. Self-taught programmers and college taught programmers all have their pros and cons. Personally I started out self taught and got my degree after a few years in the work world. You're never going to see a good team of programmers made up of all fresh college kids, they simply don't have the experience necessary to run a project, or to have a good idea of what works and doesn't work. But they'll have communication skills that a grizzled programmer could well lack. They'll also know things that can assist in their ability to be good programmers, but that a veteran self-taught won't possess.
Until you get your fingers in on a bread board inside of a computer, poking around with assembly, and lighting up leds toward some goal, you are not really going to know how a computer works.
Until you've attempted to write your own chained hash table, bucket sort algorithm, or DES encryption algorithm, you're really not going to appreciate that.
There is nothing taught in college that you can't teach yourself... someone had to do it at one point, right? But the problem is that if you're self taught, you're probably fanatical enough that your interest is solely in what tasks you have at hand, and you will not have the well roundedness that college, and college alone (in practice) will give you.
The problems you described weren't the result of the team of programmers being made up entirely of college grads, but rather the result of those college grads having no real world experience. If you had a team of self-taught individuals who had never worked in a group environment, you'd likely have had even worse results, as at least the college kids are likely to have a common knowledge base and knowledge structure whereas the self taught people will all know things in different ways.
Unless when you stopped playing the game(s), you could think of nothing else for days on end, but the game, and you lost sleep, paced endlessly, and basically had your entire life ruined for weeks, not able to perform normal functions, in a pain that lasted to some degree at least 6 months or more, if not for ever, then you weren't addicted.
Just because you could stop doesn't mean others can.
The one thing of particular note from my relatively short 23 years so far, is that nothing is inevitable. Things as trivial as this are certainly not inevitable, because things as complex as people with termial diseases do not inevitably die. Some few fortunate souls have had HIV for 25+ years with out ever suffering negative consequences. A guy out in my area several years fell off of the 10th floor of a construction project, and was impaled from his leg through the top of his skull, even through his heart by a lengthy bolt. They removed it and he is having a perfectly normal life, with a few good scars to show for it. People's parachutes fail to open and they walk away from it.
Are computer animated celebrities inevitable? No, I hardly think so. Likely perhaps but not inevitable.
I completely agree with withholding the details of how to conduct an exploit, but publically list affected version numbers as well as consequences of a security bug. In this case this is what RedHat did. The Security Focus posting by them does not contain any details of how to reproduce the security vulnerability, so the most they're doing is tipping off black hats that there is some buffer overflow. It will as long for the smart black hats to release the scripts for kiddies to play with as it will take the white hats to fix it.
Basically until everyone has had time to patch a security bug, just release enough information for people to conduct a risk analysis.
If RedHat had said instead, "Issue the following statement to Wu: xxxxxxxx, and you'll now have root shell access" then I'd say we should tar and feather them. That's far more information than is needed to conduct a risk analysis.
I'm not trying to flamebait when I say wake up and smell the coffee. Welcome to the work world, even when you're doing something that you love, almost no job will ever be your dream one. There are the fortunate few, but I freaking love to program, and I'm a programmer. I love the challenge of it, I love solving something that I never thought of before, I love telling people "Yes, I can do that" when I have no idea how I'm going to do it, and then going ahead and doing it.
Do I like my job? No. You know why? Because it's not my agenda which I need to satisfy at work. It's the agenda of my boss, of my production manager, of our clients. I program PHP, ASP, JSP, pages attaching to a variety of data sources. In my professional opinion, no webpage should ever have background music, it really really bothers me when I come across them on the web. The project I'm working on today, they want the bass line of Mission Impossible droning on endlessly in the background. Yes, the same 4 bars, nonstop. I'm forced to produce content that I professionally disagree with, because the client thinks it's "cool." Doing a lot of off-by-one debugging is also part of the job. Doing programming that you find trivial and mundane is part of the job. Let me tell you how many online quizzes I've done. Oh wait, my 0 key broke off last time I typed that number. Do you know why we do it though? Because once in a while you get something you can really sink your teeth in to. That makes the job worthwhile.
Some days I come home and plop down on the couch, having completely exhausted myself in something I hate. Other days, I come home and plop down on the couch, exhausted, but internally invigorated with the awesome code I wrote today. CS classes suck. They've sucked for years. I just graduated last year, and I hated my courses. For the most part they didn't teach me anything I couldn't have learned in half or a quarter of the time on my own, if they even managed to teach me anything. I'm telling you, a real job is more exciting, because you're often blazing new paths.
Don't forget that if after a year or two of programming, you find that programming as a professional really takes the joy out of all computing for you, you can still go back to school and finish another degree. You'll also appreciate that degree more having come from the real work world.
It might be considered a revolution if people started shaving their heads and sculpting their skulls into new shapes.
I concur, however, not for the reason you might expect. As I already perform this act upon myself, the real revolution here is that someone else in the world emulates me!!
Microsoft shall not retaliate against OEM's who are or are considering
1. developing, distributing, promoting, using, selling, or licensing any software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software or any product or service that distributes or promotes any Non-Microsoft Middleware;
2. shipping a Personal Computer that (a) includes both a Windows Operating System Product and a non-Microsoft Operating System, or (b) will boot with more than one Operating System; or
So, if a company is going to sell systems that have NO Windows operating systems on them, Microsoft may retaliate. According to this, if you wish for Microsoft to not be allowed to retaliate against you as an OEM, all your systems must come with a Windows license, even if you have the primary boot to another OS.
So what's the deal with that? They still get to force OEM's to sell a Winblows license on each machine or face retaliation. I bet that's why the states won't sign on.
IANAL (blah blah blah) but I believe I read it correctly.
Revolution = Drastic (and usually sudden) change. It doesn't imply better or worse. A revolutionary new fashion design would be for everyone to start wearing aluminum foil helmets. Definately not a forward step in fashion, but revolutionary nonetheless.
Evolution = Slow (but not always needed) change, typically considered to be forward movement, though again that's not necessarily the case. An ape born with out the genetic sequencing necessary to produce arms is a evolution of the ape line, albeit under negative effect.
Not quite true. At least in Pennsylvania (don't know if it's state or Federal law), it's one year. You say "Don't ever call me again," they say "Ok sir, we'll remove you from our list" or "We've placed you on our list not to call," and they only have to stick by that for one year. That's one year per company, and that doesn't prevent them from reselling that information to other companies.
I have no idea what rights you have against them if they violate that, or who to call, but I actually had a credit card company call me, I said to never call again, they said "blah blah blah" (insert appropriate statement), and called me the very next day. Of course when I asked for a manager, I got a lot of "Sir, we're very sorry, but it takes 48 hours for that list to update" sort of crap, and I just raised a big stink and left it at that because it was my senior year in college, and I knew I wasn't going to be at that number in another year. As long as I successfully got myself off the list for that year, I was happy.
There is always a person on the other end of the phone. A person has feelings. Yes, some of them need a job NOW or they lose their house, and telemarketing can pay well enough to prevent that from happening, unlike a lot of other menial dead-end jobs, like burger flipping. Telemarketing has decent pay because no one wants to do it. Do you think the person calling you is sitting on the other end of the phone thinking "SWEET, I woke him up from a nap!" I'm guessing there are probably a few like that, but I think they'd be the far minority.
If you've never been out of a job, looking, and needing money yesterday to buy food and pay bills, you simply can't comprehend what that's like. If you're threatened with homelessness, you'll take jobs like this, and they suck. They suck bad. They suck bad because of people like that. Are you allowed to be upset that they're bothering you at home? Yes, of course you are. Are you allowed to vent at them? Yes, of course you are. But should you at least take a minute to think that the person on the other end of the phone may not be any more happy about having to bother you at home than you are to be bothered? Yes, you should.
Don't like being bothered by them while you're at home? Politely say "I'm not interested, please remove me from your list." It has exactly the same effect as emotionally breaking them down, because you know what? The person you're speaking to isn't the owner of the telemarketing company, the owners, and source of the problem are completely insulated from this because they're sitting in their offices with their blinds drawn, wondering if it would be more effective to get a large bald shirtless guy in there beating an onorous rhythm on a drum. Don't think to yourself "I wasn't really that terrible, just swore at him/her a few times," because if all you do all day is take a small amount of abuse repeatedly, it will break you down.
Don't assume that because you've never been in that situation, that others don't have to be. Don't think that because you have skills and talents to market that will be snatched up immediately, making you never in need of a job that other people have the same advantage. You hear the horror stories of IS related job hunts. People looking for *gasp* 6 to 10 months!! Guess what? That's still better than a lot of industries where that could well be considered a short job search! Try to find a terratology or zoology job, and you'll know what a long job search is. And in five years, when there's a honest glut of competent computer technicians, and you're spending 18 months looking for a job, do you seriously think that you'd rather starve to death living on the streets than telemarket? Placed in that situation, you'll be there filling out a job application just to stay alive. Don't know if you have kids, but I'll tell you that when I do, there isn't a job in the world I wouldn't take to make their and my wife's life as good as possible. When it's a choice between my whole family starving, or being the scuba diver who scrubs the bottom of septics with a toothbrush, I'll use my own if I have to.
Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it wrong.
If he was not willing to accept civilian casualties in this war that he started...
Sorry, but your post seems to imply that it's Bin Laden's decision whether it's acceptable to put up civilian lives for his cause. It also seems to imply that because Bin Laden is careless with civilian lives around him, we shouldn't be as concerned with those lives, because he made the decision for those people, and although we pulled the trigger (or pushed the button) we're not at all at fault, it was his decision.
I think you didn't intend to imply that, so sorry if I'm reading too much in to what you said.
1 Go to Radio Shack and get a 1/8" stereo phono plug to 1/8" stereo phono plug patch cord.
2 Plug one end into the headphone jack on your computer's cd/dvd player.
3 Plug the other end into the Line in jack of your sound card.
4 Audio-rip away!
No, that won't work. The problem isn't with the decoded audio not being able to get to your sound card, it's with the fact that your computer's CD/DVD player simply can't make heads or tails of the CD in the drive, gets confused and aborts. They insert data designed to confuse computer CD/DVD players, and so the drive is no more capable of playing to your earphone jack than it is to your sound card internally.
The way you'd have to do it is with a discman, or stereo which wouldn't be confused by the copy protection.
Ok, tell me exactly why copy protection won't lead to more MP3 swapping. Copy protection (at least some kinds, I'm not an expert) prevents the CD from being played on a computer, so not just anyone can rip an MP3 of it, you'd have to set up a conventional CD player in to your line in, which not everyone knows how or has the motivation to do.
So I want to have MP3's of CD's I own on my computer (fair use), what am I going to do? Go looking for someone else's MP3 of it! That's what! And I thought they were trying to reduce the number of MP3's being curculated around.
The difference here is between the United Federation of Planets (or whatever) and Starfleet. Starfleet is Earth, the UFP is a larger organization, to which Starfleet belongs (circa Piccard). The UFP had a bad first contact, long before Humans had warp, and in the pilot of "Enterprise," the humans are not yet associated with the UFP, and so the Klingons (whose only experience with humans to date has been their daring rescue of another klingon, and prevention of civil war). If they later joined the UFP, with which the Klingons were at war, then the humans, who've only proven themselves once, are now part of the enemy, and thus the war with humans, and bad first contact with the UFP.
I didn't intend to imply that Apple will necessarily backstab the BSD developers, let alone plan to for the future. As I said in another post on this thread, BSD is clearly adding a lot to OS-X, and they would be foolish to intentionally squash it. Looks like I might have unintentionally forged a mini holy war here. My original intent was to basically say "Watch out for embrace and extend"
I think this is clearly wrong. The growth of that operating system was mostly the result of a deliberate strategy to exploit the network-effects of controlling APIs, protocols, document formats, and distribution channels. Marketing played a role, but does not deserve singular credit for the success of Windows.
Ok, good point, how about this: Why is Microsoft the big OS right now? Ethics free corporatism! :) Oops, was that Karma whoring?
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nahdude812 said, 'I'm just keeping an eye on the future, someone needed to bring it up!'
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It's a great NAT / firewall box that lets you statically open incoming ports to local machines if you desire, and prevents you from having to have their REALLY SUCKY software installed on your machine.
no, I meant &, I was showing him how to put a (ampersand) in HTML.
giggle, and you might want to use & instead of (ampersand)
hehe, beginner's course in HTML... irony is thick =)
An anecdotal example of one situation where college graduates were unable to cut it doesn't really deterministically state that college degrees are worthless. Self-taught programmers and college taught programmers all have their pros and cons. Personally I started out self taught and got my degree after a few years in the work world. You're never going to see a good team of programmers made up of all fresh college kids, they simply don't have the experience necessary to run a project, or to have a good idea of what works and doesn't work. But they'll have communication skills that a grizzled programmer could well lack. They'll also know things that can assist in their ability to be good programmers, but that a veteran self-taught won't possess.
Until you get your fingers in on a bread board inside of a computer, poking around with assembly, and lighting up leds toward some goal, you are not really going to know how a computer works.
Until you've attempted to write your own chained hash table, bucket sort algorithm, or DES encryption algorithm, you're really not going to appreciate that.
There is nothing taught in college that you can't teach yourself... someone had to do it at one point, right? But the problem is that if you're self taught, you're probably fanatical enough that your interest is solely in what tasks you have at hand, and you will not have the well roundedness that college, and college alone (in practice) will give you.
The problems you described weren't the result of the team of programmers being made up entirely of college grads, but rather the result of those college grads having no real world experience. If you had a team of self-taught individuals who had never worked in a group environment, you'd likely have had even worse results, as at least the college kids are likely to have a common knowledge base and knowledge structure whereas the self taught people will all know things in different ways.
Sorry friend, you missed one piece of functionality, perhaps for version 0.2.
--e eject toast forcibly so you can catch it in various suave fashions.
You know, when you read it in that context, yeah, it sounds a whole lot like love :)
Unless when you stopped playing the game(s), you could think of nothing else for days on end, but the game, and you lost sleep, paced endlessly, and basically had your entire life ruined for weeks, not able to perform normal functions, in a pain that lasted to some degree at least 6 months or more, if not for ever, then you weren't addicted.
Just because you could stop doesn't mean others can.
Whee. See this post: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=24337&cid=2636 676
The one thing of particular note from my relatively short 23 years so far, is that nothing is inevitable. Things as trivial as this are certainly not inevitable, because things as complex as people with termial diseases do not inevitably die. Some few fortunate souls have had HIV for 25+ years with out ever suffering negative consequences. A guy out in my area several years fell off of the 10th floor of a construction project, and was impaled from his leg through the top of his skull, even through his heart by a lengthy bolt. They removed it and he is having a perfectly normal life, with a few good scars to show for it. People's parachutes fail to open and they walk away from it.
Are computer animated celebrities inevitable? No, I hardly think so. Likely perhaps but not inevitable.
/tangent off
I completely agree with withholding the details of how to conduct an exploit, but publically list affected version numbers as well as consequences of a security bug. In this case this is what RedHat did. The Security Focus posting by them does not contain any details of how to reproduce the security vulnerability, so the most they're doing is tipping off black hats that there is some buffer overflow. It will as long for the smart black hats to release the scripts for kiddies to play with as it will take the white hats to fix it.
Basically until everyone has had time to patch a security bug, just release enough information for people to conduct a risk analysis.
If RedHat had said instead, "Issue the following statement to Wu: xxxxxxxx, and you'll now have root shell access" then I'd say we should tar and feather them. That's far more information than is needed to conduct a risk analysis.
I assume that statement was sarcastic, because it never really was. Security through obscurity is an oxymoron.
I'm not trying to flamebait when I say wake up and smell the coffee. Welcome to the work world, even when you're doing something that you love, almost no job will ever be your dream one. There are the fortunate few, but I freaking love to program, and I'm a programmer. I love the challenge of it, I love solving something that I never thought of before, I love telling people "Yes, I can do that" when I have no idea how I'm going to do it, and then going ahead and doing it.
Do I like my job? No. You know why? Because it's not my agenda which I need to satisfy at work. It's the agenda of my boss, of my production manager, of our clients. I program PHP, ASP, JSP, pages attaching to a variety of data sources. In my professional opinion, no webpage should ever have background music, it really really bothers me when I come across them on the web. The project I'm working on today, they want the bass line of Mission Impossible droning on endlessly in the background. Yes, the same 4 bars, nonstop. I'm forced to produce content that I professionally disagree with, because the client thinks it's "cool." Doing a lot of off-by-one debugging is also part of the job. Doing programming that you find trivial and mundane is part of the job. Let me tell you how many online quizzes I've done. Oh wait, my 0 key broke off last time I typed that number. Do you know why we do it though? Because once in a while you get something you can really sink your teeth in to. That makes the job worthwhile.
Some days I come home and plop down on the couch, having completely exhausted myself in something I hate. Other days, I come home and plop down on the couch, exhausted, but internally invigorated with the awesome code I wrote today. CS classes suck. They've sucked for years. I just graduated last year, and I hated my courses. For the most part they didn't teach me anything I couldn't have learned in half or a quarter of the time on my own, if they even managed to teach me anything. I'm telling you, a real job is more exciting, because you're often blazing new paths.
Don't forget that if after a year or two of programming, you find that programming as a professional really takes the joy out of all computing for you, you can still go back to school and finish another degree. You'll also appreciate that degree more having come from the real work world.
It might be considered a revolution if people started shaving their heads and sculpting their skulls into new shapes.
I concur, however, not for the reason you might expect. As I already perform this act upon myself, the real revolution here is that someone else in the world emulates me!!
Muahaha!
Microsoft shall not retaliate against OEM's who are or are considering
1. developing, distributing, promoting, using, selling, or licensing any software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software or any product or service that distributes or promotes any Non-Microsoft Middleware;
2. shipping a Personal Computer that (a) includes both a Windows Operating System Product and a non-Microsoft Operating System, or (b) will boot with more than one Operating System; or
So, if a company is going to sell systems that have NO Windows operating systems on them, Microsoft may retaliate. According to this, if you wish for Microsoft to not be allowed to retaliate against you as an OEM, all your systems must come with a Windows license, even if you have the primary boot to another OS.
So what's the deal with that? They still get to force OEM's to sell a Winblows license on each machine or face retaliation. I bet that's why the states won't sign on.
IANAL (blah blah blah) but I believe I read it correctly.
Revolution = Drastic (and usually sudden) change. It doesn't imply better or worse. A revolutionary new fashion design would be for everyone to start wearing aluminum foil helmets. Definately not a forward step in fashion, but revolutionary nonetheless.
Evolution = Slow (but not always needed) change, typically considered to be forward movement, though again that's not necessarily the case. An ape born with out the genetic sequencing necessary to produce arms is a evolution of the ape line, albeit under negative effect.
Back a Long Time Ago (1997? 98?)
:)
hehe
Not quite true. At least in Pennsylvania (don't know if it's state or Federal law), it's one year. You say "Don't ever call me again," they say "Ok sir, we'll remove you from our list" or "We've placed you on our list not to call," and they only have to stick by that for one year. That's one year per company, and that doesn't prevent them from reselling that information to other companies.
I have no idea what rights you have against them if they violate that, or who to call, but I actually had a credit card company call me, I said to never call again, they said "blah blah blah" (insert appropriate statement), and called me the very next day. Of course when I asked for a manager, I got a lot of "Sir, we're very sorry, but it takes 48 hours for that list to update" sort of crap, and I just raised a big stink and left it at that because it was my senior year in college, and I knew I wasn't going to be at that number in another year. As long as I successfully got myself off the list for that year, I was happy.
There is always a person on the other end of the phone. A person has feelings. Yes, some of them need a job NOW or they lose their house, and telemarketing can pay well enough to prevent that from happening, unlike a lot of other menial dead-end jobs, like burger flipping. Telemarketing has decent pay because no one wants to do it. Do you think the person calling you is sitting on the other end of the phone thinking "SWEET, I woke him up from a nap!" I'm guessing there are probably a few like that, but I think they'd be the far minority.
If you've never been out of a job, looking, and needing money yesterday to buy food and pay bills, you simply can't comprehend what that's like. If you're threatened with homelessness, you'll take jobs like this, and they suck. They suck bad. They suck bad because of people like that. Are you allowed to be upset that they're bothering you at home? Yes, of course you are. Are you allowed to vent at them? Yes, of course you are. But should you at least take a minute to think that the person on the other end of the phone may not be any more happy about having to bother you at home than you are to be bothered? Yes, you should.
Don't like being bothered by them while you're at home? Politely say "I'm not interested, please remove me from your list." It has exactly the same effect as emotionally breaking them down, because you know what? The person you're speaking to isn't the owner of the telemarketing company, the owners, and source of the problem are completely insulated from this because they're sitting in their offices with their blinds drawn, wondering if it would be more effective to get a large bald shirtless guy in there beating an onorous rhythm on a drum. Don't think to yourself "I wasn't really that terrible, just swore at him/her a few times," because if all you do all day is take a small amount of abuse repeatedly, it will break you down.
Don't assume that because you've never been in that situation, that others don't have to be. Don't think that because you have skills and talents to market that will be snatched up immediately, making you never in need of a job that other people have the same advantage. You hear the horror stories of IS related job hunts. People looking for *gasp* 6 to 10 months!! Guess what? That's still better than a lot of industries where that could well be considered a short job search! Try to find a terratology or zoology job, and you'll know what a long job search is. And in five years, when there's a honest glut of competent computer technicians, and you're spending 18 months looking for a job, do you seriously think that you'd rather starve to death living on the streets than telemarket? Placed in that situation, you'll be there filling out a job application just to stay alive. Don't know if you have kids, but I'll tell you that when I do, there isn't a job in the world I wouldn't take to make their and my wife's life as good as possible. When it's a choice between my whole family starving, or being the scuba diver who scrubs the bottom of septics with a toothbrush, I'll use my own if I have to.
Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it wrong.
If he was not willing to accept civilian casualties in this war that he started...
Sorry, but your post seems to imply that it's Bin Laden's decision whether it's acceptable to put up civilian lives for his cause. It also seems to imply that because Bin Laden is careless with civilian lives around him, we shouldn't be as concerned with those lives, because he made the decision for those people, and although we pulled the trigger (or pushed the button) we're not at all at fault, it was his decision.
I think you didn't intend to imply that, so sorry if I'm reading too much in to what you said.
No, that won't work. The problem isn't with the decoded audio not being able to get to your sound card, it's with the fact that your computer's CD/DVD player simply can't make heads or tails of the CD in the drive, gets confused and aborts. They insert data designed to confuse computer CD/DVD players, and so the drive is no more capable of playing to your earphone jack than it is to your sound card internally.
The way you'd have to do it is with a discman, or stereo which wouldn't be confused by the copy protection.
Ok, tell me exactly why copy protection won't lead to more MP3 swapping. Copy protection (at least some kinds, I'm not an expert) prevents the CD from being played on a computer, so not just anyone can rip an MP3 of it, you'd have to set up a conventional CD player in to your line in, which not everyone knows how or has the motivation to do.
So I want to have MP3's of CD's I own on my computer (fair use), what am I going to do? Go looking for someone else's MP3 of it! That's what! And I thought they were trying to reduce the number of MP3's being curculated around.
The difference here is between the United Federation of Planets (or whatever) and Starfleet. Starfleet is Earth, the UFP is a larger organization, to which Starfleet belongs (circa Piccard). The UFP had a bad first contact, long before Humans had warp, and in the pilot of "Enterprise," the humans are not yet associated with the UFP, and so the Klingons (whose only experience with humans to date has been their daring rescue of another klingon, and prevention of civil war). If they later joined the UFP, with which the Klingons were at war, then the humans, who've only proven themselves once, are now part of the enemy, and thus the war with humans, and bad first contact with the UFP.
Wow, I'm such a nerd!
Well said, valid point, this deserves mod up!
I didn't intend to imply that Apple will necessarily backstab the BSD developers, let alone plan to for the future. As I said in another post on this thread, BSD is clearly adding a lot to OS-X, and they would be foolish to intentionally squash it. Looks like I might have unintentionally forged a mini holy war here. My original intent was to basically say "Watch out for embrace and extend"
Very well said!
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iNik said, 'As ever, be vigilant, but don't bundle your undies just yet.'
nahdude812 points to the subject; Potential Danger
nahdude812 said, 'I'm just keeping an eye on the future, someone needed to bring it up!'