Uh- I hate to break it to you, but if you read FEMAs charter, and the executive orders (wait- are executive orders in the Constitution? Oh, no, they aren't), FEMA is there to protect the government, not the people.
So when the star impacts with Earth, the politicians will be safe in some space pod on the far side of the moon.
First off- allow me to apologize. My tone in my earlier reply was rude. I live in Ohio (Outside of Akron, as you know Akron-Canton are sort of lumped together as they are 20 minutes apart)As you can imagine, living down the road from Diebold, in addition to the fact that I live in Ohio, the most contested state, where during national elections all one hears are ads for politicians, politics sort of get me irritated. That, combined with the fact that I didn't have any coffee yesterday, led to my rudeness.
Anyhow- can we agree that voter fraud is an institution, whether electronic or paper?
Okay- I see your point. Not to be argumentative- but my friend, The difference is that if you want to burn ballots in the field, you have to physically go get the ballots, physically transport them, and physically destroy them. All of which carries some amount of risk of being caught by widely-understood, traditional methods of security.
Vote tampering is almost an institution in the US. From the very dawn of America. I really don't want to get into giving a history lesson, but I suggest doing a google search for vote tampering and only clicking on the.edu's.
I know that your points are great in theory, but unfortunately history disproves you.
Who thinks USA has anything to do with democracy?
Wow- not to be an ass- but the US isn't a Democracy. It is a representative republic. A true Democracy in the US would be sort of scary- Imagine mob rule. Think about it.
A well Written article on Democracy v. Republic http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detai l.php?ResourceID=4
Republic v. Democracy
by David Barton
We have grown accustomed to hearing that we are a democracy; such was never the intent. The form of government entrusted to us by our Founders was a republic, not a democracy.1 Our Founders had an opportunity to establish a democracy in America and chose not to. In fact, the Founders made clear that we were not, and were never to become, a democracy:
[D]emocracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.2 James Madison
Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.3 John Adams
A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way.4 The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness [excessive license] which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty.5 Fisher Ames, Author of the House Language for the First Amendment
We have seen the tumult of democracy terminate . . . as [it has] everywhere terminated, in despotism. . . . Democracy! savage and wild. Thou who wouldst bring down the virtuous and wise to thy level of folly and guilt.6 Gouverneur Morris, Signer and Penman of the Constitution
[T]he experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.7 John Quincy Adams
A simple democracy . . . is one of the greatest of evils.8 Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration
In democracy . . . there are commonly tumults and disorders. . . . Therefore a pure democracy is generally a very bad government. It is often the most tyrannical government on earth.9 Noah Webster
Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state, it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage.10 John Witherspoon, Signer of the Declaration
It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion.11 Zephaniah Swift, Author of America's First Legal Text Click link for more
Without starting a conversation about how everyone on Slashdot could hack into the computerized voting system undetected...
Keep this in mind. Many would say it is much easier to tamper with a paper ballot election. Ballots dissapear, ballots materialize out of nowhere etc. Burning boxes of ballots in fields is nothing new. One could postulate that tampering with computer ballots leave much more of a trail than traditional tampering.
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This is done by Dr. Robert White. He has done a lot of experiments where he transplanted animal heads, and they stayed alive for a while (hours).
I know this story sounds like cosmetic surgery, but it isn't. (Yes, I would like a more handsome face)It is for people who need it medically, at least for now...
Dr White's son, Mr. White was my Eighth grade Latin teacher at Shaker Heights Middle School, I kid you not.
As much as $3 a gallon gas has changed my habits, I guess it is good because it makes other, more environmentally friendly alternatives, an alternative price wise.
Here is my opinion on the global warming thing. I think it is Hubris for humans to think that we can destroy the Earth. We certainly can make it uninhabitable for certain flora and fauna, including Humans, but we can't destroy it. Humans weren't the first species, and we likely won't be here when the Sun finally goes out. If we screw the Earth up bad enough, she will just spin us off, and other species will take over.
Maybe we will be able to keep ourselves going until we can develop ways to populate other planets- but it will require a concerted effort.
Like anything however, we (humans) usually need something really big to get our asses in gear. We are reactive, not proactive. So unless there is some giant event like the atmosphere suddenly disappearing, things aren't likely to change. Although I am holding out some glimmer of hope that we (humans) will decide to be better stewards of our land.
If you are a hard core scientist, then on an intellectual level you must want to help our Earth.
Whether you belive in creationism or God- you would think that serving God requires us to take care of what God blessed us with.
Whether Humans cause Global Climate Change or not, we need to take better care of our Earth. There is an old saying- you don't shit where you sleep....
Wow- J Crew U. To be honest, you sound jealous. I went to Ohio University (in Athens) for two years before transferring to Case Western (in Cleveland) Ohio has very good public universities. Anyhow, I spent a lot of time at Miami visiting high school friends that went there. It is a good school. It also was voted by Playboy a few years in a row as having the best looking coeds in the country.
Sure there are people that hate a school like that. But it is very good academically.
I wonder if the situation is different, legally, regarding the lost info because Miami is a Public school as opposed to private.
And one more thing- Miami is named after the Miami River valley in Ohio. The original settlers of Florida were from Ohio, and gave Florida cities a lot of Ohio names, such as Miami. A useless, but interesting factoid. (Dayton Ohio, Daytona Fla etc.)
And yes, a lot of guys hate Miami of Ohio because the chicks are hot, and none of us enjoy rejection from hot chicks. Some people get bitter about that. Others just go to the bars at 2am when we look good to the hot chicks. Because yes, beer goggles come in women's sizes.
The flip side of that coin, is that if you go after soneone for slander/libel, their statements had better be false.
For instance, if you say I am gay, and I sue you, I had better not be gay. (Replace gay witanything you want)
Someone with more time than I do right now, please let me know if you can find it out, but who was the actor that sued people in the mid 20th century for saying he was gay, and during the court case it came out that he was very gay?
And, as if on cue, a member of the PC police walks in and moderates my above post "flamebait." The examples in my above post are real. Not every mention of race is racist or flaming/trolling. However, thank you for proving my point.
What the hell kind of conversations do you go around having that you would feel compelled to wonder THAT?
Any time you are in an enviro where there are any non white males. For example, if you mention that the black guy in the office had a typo in his report- the PC Police will call you racist. They will research and find out every you let a white person's typo slide by. They will call you racist
Then there are the times (which is most of them) where you completely forget about race until something is said like:
The cafetria is serving fried chicken: you walk in, and your friend Tom, who happens to be black, is enjoying some of the delicous chicken. So you say- "Hey Tom, how is the chicken?" All the sudden, an awkward silence ensues. Not because Tom thinks that you are racist, but because you suddenly wonder- OMG- what if Tom thinks I'm racist, even though you were just wondering about the chicken.
The examples could go on forever- But the race card gets played all the time. And yes, some of my best friends ARE black
Funny Joke: What do you call a black man with an M.D.?
Answer: A doctor, you racist!
It plays on the fact that you are expecting a racist joke. As has been said over and over again, there are a lot fewer racial difference in the US than class differences. White people who wear those hilarious big pants and listen to rap music are more likely to drop out of high school and get pregnant at 13 than a black person who wears a tie....
How do you define racist speech? Believe me, there would be as many definitions as there are people.
For example, if I say "White men are violent" is that racist?
What if I say "Black males comprise 6% of the population in the US, but perpetrate 40% of the murders" Is that racist, if a statement of fact, because I didn't qualify it by saying that the high rate is due to 200+ years of oppression?
If I say "everyone but Asians are dumb" is that racist? What If I show test scores that show that Asians are more intelligent?
Believe me- just about anything you say can be construed as racist. "The sky is blue" "Why it gotta be blue? Why can't it be black, you racist..."
Uh- I'm pretty sure Slashdot is going to be outlawed in Singapore. Unless the GNAA is a legitimate advocacy organization. But food for thought, how many of the comments and of us make, in the course of intelligent (and not-so) conversation could be construed as racist by the PC police?
They are both being charged with committing a seditious act, by promoting feelings of ill-will and hostility between races in Singapore.
If this law were ever passed in the US, there would be more people in jail than out of it. Most News commentators gone, a lot of music illegal, etc.
I know this sounds trite, but I would rather have racists and other vermin allowed to be out in the open so at least we know who they are and can keep tabs on them. Once you force them underground, they become more dangerous...
What scares the crap out of me is the global nature of the net- and I am worried that larger corps like Yahoo (as in China) will get used to cooperating with the gov'ts in so called restrictive countries, and start giving info freely to good old uncle sam. er- wait- I am pretty sure they already do....
The Butt F%^K isn't anything to do with it. BFE is an old term that stood fof "Beyond F-ing Egypt." It meant really far away, as it does today. I am sure this will get modded offtopic, but BFE will be used a lot in replies to this story...
Now- do you know what RFD stands for, as in Mayberry?
with exceptions for just about every telemarketer including businesses, political parties, polling companies, and charities.
I am not sure if any businesses are exempt in the US Don't call list, but the US list does exempt charities, political parties and polls. Then again, would a legislative body ever pass a law that restricted themselves from calling?
Peter Gibbons: What would you do if you had a million dollars?
Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man, two chicks at the same time, man.
Peter Gibbons: That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?
Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had a million dollars I could hook that up, cause chicks dig a dude with money.
Peter Gibbons: Well, not all chicks.
Lawrence: Well the kind of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.
Peter Gibbons: Good point.
Lawrence: Well what about you now? what would you do?
Peter Gibbons: Besides two chicks at the same time?
Lawrence: Well yeah.
Peter Gibbons: Nothing.
Lawrence: Nothing, huh?
Peter Gibbons: I'd relax, I would sit on my ass all day, I would do nothing.
Lawrence: Well you don't need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Just take a look at my cousin, he's broke, don't do shit. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/quotes
NOw, if only FEMA would get with the times and realize that not everyone uses windows/IE...
Believe me- I understand that sentiment. But you have to figure that a lot of people (who had them) lost their computers along with their homes and the rest of their belongings. So I assume FEMA will set up trailers with computers, rooms at shelters with computers, send people to libraries etc. Every library (with the rare exception of a few Macs) has had windows machines. And if you are going to deploy mobile computer labs, why not deploy them with the platform most people are familiar with?
Complaining about using IE for the relief benefits sounds dort of diingenous and shrill. Sort of like a starving person complaining that the meal they are given "could use a more Paprika."
I don't think any of us really choose our instant messenger. At work I use ICQ because everyone else at work uses it. BUt I also use AIM, because my little sister is away at school, and she uses AIM. I hate AIM, but if I choose not to use AIM, I am only hurting myself because then I couldn't IM my sister.
The next logical Question- Why can't I get my sister to switch? All her friends use AIM. And so it goes.
For me, the main criteria for a game, movie or even book, is that it is interesting/challenging/entertaining enough to take my mind of the heavy things in my life.
Sure I can appreciate a book or game for its artistic merits, but the whole reason I play a game is to be entertained. The game can be something as simple as Tetris or Solitaire (perhaps with those, the word entertain doesn't fit perfectly- maybe distracted)
Anything that can be played by two people at once os also a bonus- as it lets you be around a friend without just hanging around talking, which is unmanly, unless of course we are both drunk and/or talking about sex/women in a dirty way.
It gives new meaning to "the stranger"
Rimshot
(The stranger is a masturbation tecnique whereby a male sits on his hand until it goes numb, at which point he can use the numb hand to stroke his willy, thereby recieveing tactile sensations on the male member, but not on the hand.)
Slashdot Mirror
Uh- I hate to break it to you, but if you read FEMAs charter, and the executive orders (wait- are executive orders in the Constitution? Oh, no, they aren't), FEMA is there to protect the government, not the people.
So when the star impacts with Earth, the politicians will be safe in some space pod on the far side of the moon.
First off- allow me to apologize. My tone in my earlier reply was rude. I live in Ohio (Outside of Akron, as you know Akron-Canton are sort of lumped together as they are 20 minutes apart)As you can imagine, living down the road from Diebold, in addition to the fact that I live in Ohio, the most contested state, where during national elections all one hears are ads for politicians, politics sort of get me irritated. That, combined with the fact that I didn't have any coffee yesterday, led to my rudeness.
Anyhow- can we agree that voter fraud is an institution, whether electronic or paper?
Okay- I see your point. Not to be argumentative- but my friend, .edu's.
The difference is that if you want to burn ballots in the field, you have to physically go get the ballots, physically transport them, and physically destroy them. All of which carries some amount of risk of being caught by widely-understood, traditional methods of security.
Vote tampering is almost an institution in the US. From the very dawn of America. I really don't want to get into giving a history lesson, but I suggest doing a google search for vote tampering and only clicking on the
I know that your points are great in theory, but unfortunately history disproves you.
Who thinks USA has anything to do with democracy?i l.php?ResourceID=4
Wow- not to be an ass- but the US isn't a Democracy. It is a representative republic.
A true Democracy in the US would be sort of scary- Imagine mob rule. Think about it.
A well Written article on Democracy v. Republic
http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/deta
Republic v. Democracy
by David Barton
We have grown accustomed to hearing that we are a democracy; such was never the intent. The form of government entrusted to us by our Founders was a republic, not a democracy.1 Our Founders had an opportunity to establish a democracy in America and chose not to. In fact, the Founders made clear that we were not, and were never to become, a democracy:
[D]emocracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.2 James Madison
Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.3 John Adams
A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way.4 The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness [excessive license] which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty.5 Fisher Ames, Author of the House Language for the First Amendment
We have seen the tumult of democracy terminate . . . as [it has] everywhere terminated, in despotism. . . . Democracy! savage and wild. Thou who wouldst bring down the virtuous and wise to thy level of folly and guilt.6 Gouverneur Morris, Signer and Penman of the Constitution
[T]he experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.7 John Quincy Adams
A simple democracy . . . is one of the greatest of evils.8 Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration
In democracy . . . there are commonly tumults and disorders. . . . Therefore a pure democracy is generally a very bad government. It is often the most tyrannical government on earth.9 Noah Webster
Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state, it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage.10 John Witherspoon, Signer of the Declaration
It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion.11 Zephaniah Swift, Author of America's First Legal Text Click link for more
Without starting a conversation about how everyone on Slashdot could hack into the computerized voting system undetected...
Keep this in mind. Many would say it is much easier to tamper with a paper ballot election. Ballots dissapear, ballots materialize out of nowhere etc. Burning boxes of ballots in fields is nothing new. One could postulate that tampering with computer ballots leave much more of a trail than traditional tampering.
This is done by Dr. Robert White. He has done a lot of experiments where he transplanted animal heads, and they stayed alive for a while (hours).
I know this story sounds like cosmetic surgery, but it isn't. (Yes, I would like a more handsome face)It is for people who need it medically, at least for now...
Dr White's son, Mr. White was my Eighth grade Latin teacher at Shaker Heights Middle School, I kid you not.
Well, I guess we get knocked down, but we get up again! They ain't never ever ever gonaa win!
As much as $3 a gallon gas has changed my habits, I guess it is good because it makes other, more environmentally friendly alternatives, an alternative price wise.
Here is my opinion on the global warming thing. I think it is Hubris for humans to think that we can destroy the Earth. We certainly can make it uninhabitable for certain flora and fauna, including Humans, but we can't destroy it. Humans weren't the first species, and we likely won't be here when the Sun finally goes out. If we screw the Earth up bad enough, she will just spin us off, and other species will take over.
Maybe we will be able to keep ourselves going until we can develop ways to populate other planets- but it will require a concerted effort.
Like anything however, we (humans) usually need something really big to get our asses in gear. We are reactive, not proactive. So unless there is some giant event like the atmosphere suddenly disappearing, things aren't likely to change. Although I am holding out some glimmer of hope that we (humans) will decide to be better stewards of our land.
If you are a hard core scientist, then on an intellectual level you must want to help our Earth.
Whether you belive in creationism or God- you would think that serving God requires us to take care of what God blessed us with.
Whether Humans cause Global Climate Change or not, we need to take better care of our Earth. There is an old saying- you don't shit where you sleep....
Wow- J Crew U. To be honest, you sound jealous. I went to Ohio University (in Athens) for two years before transferring to Case Western (in Cleveland) Ohio has very good public universities. Anyhow, I spent a lot of time at Miami visiting high school friends that went there. It is a good school. It also was voted by Playboy a few years in a row as having the best looking coeds in the country.
Sure there are people that hate a school like that. But it is very good academically.
I wonder if the situation is different, legally, regarding the lost info because Miami is a Public school as opposed to private. And one more thing- Miami is named after the Miami River valley in Ohio. The original settlers of Florida were from Ohio, and gave Florida cities a lot of Ohio names, such as Miami. A useless, but interesting factoid. (Dayton Ohio, Daytona Fla etc.)
And yes, a lot of guys hate Miami of Ohio because the chicks are hot, and none of us enjoy rejection from hot chicks. Some people get bitter about that. Others just go to the bars at 2am when we look good to the hot chicks. Because yes, beer goggles come in women's sizes.
The flip side of that coin, is that if you go after soneone for slander/libel, their statements had better be false.
For instance, if you say I am gay, and I sue you, I had better not be gay. (Replace gay witanything you want)
Someone with more time than I do right now, please let me know if you can find it out, but who was the actor that sued people in the mid 20th century for saying he was gay, and during the court case it came out that he was very gay?
And, as if on cue, a member of the PC police walks in and moderates my above post "flamebait." The examples in my above post are real. Not every mention of race is racist or flaming/trolling. However, thank you for proving my point.
Yes, but will it make Vanilla Ice...?
Rollin', in my 5.0 with the top left back so my hair can blow...
What the hell kind of conversations do you go around having that you would feel compelled to wonder THAT?
Any time you are in an enviro where there are any non white males. For example, if you mention that the black guy in the office had a typo in his report- the PC Police will call you racist. They will research and find out every you let a white person's typo slide by. They will call you racist
Then there are the times (which is most of them) where you completely forget about race until something is said like:
The cafetria is serving fried chicken: you walk in, and your friend Tom, who happens to be black, is enjoying some of the delicous chicken. So you say- "Hey Tom, how is the chicken?" All the sudden, an awkward silence ensues. Not because Tom thinks that you are racist, but because you suddenly wonder- OMG- what if Tom thinks I'm racist, even though you were just wondering about the chicken.
The examples could go on forever- But the race card gets played all the time.
And yes, some of my best friends ARE black
Funny Joke: What do you call a black man with an M.D.?
Answer: A doctor, you racist!
It plays on the fact that you are expecting a racist joke. As has been said over and over again, there are a lot fewer racial difference in the US than class differences. White people who wear those hilarious big pants and listen to rap music are more likely to drop out of high school and get pregnant at 13 than a black person who wears a tie....
How do you define racist speech? Believe me, there would be as many definitions as there are people.
For example, if I say "White men are violent" is that racist?
What if I say "Black males comprise 6% of the population in the US, but perpetrate 40% of the murders" Is that racist, if a statement of fact, because I didn't qualify it by saying that the high rate is due to 200+ years of oppression?
If I say "everyone but Asians are dumb" is that racist? What If I show test scores that show that Asians are more intelligent?
Believe me- just about anything you say can be construed as racist. "The sky is blue" "Why it gotta be blue? Why can't it be black, you racist..."
Uh- I'm pretty sure Slashdot is going to be outlawed in Singapore. Unless the GNAA is a legitimate advocacy organization. But food for thought, how many of the comments and of us make, in the course of intelligent (and not-so) conversation could be construed as racist by the PC police?
They are both being charged with committing a seditious act, by promoting feelings of ill-will and hostility between races in Singapore.
If this law were ever passed in the US, there would be more people in jail than out of it. Most News commentators gone, a lot of music illegal, etc.
I know this sounds trite, but I would rather have racists and other vermin allowed to be out in the open so at least we know who they are and can keep tabs on them. Once you force them underground, they become more dangerous...
What scares the crap out of me is the global nature of the net- and I am worried that larger corps like Yahoo (as in China) will get used to cooperating with the gov'ts in so called restrictive countries, and start giving info freely to good old uncle sam. er- wait- I am pretty sure they already do....
The Butt F%^K isn't anything to do with it. BFE is an old term that stood fof "Beyond F-ing Egypt." It meant really far away, as it does today. I am sure this will get modded offtopic, but BFE will be used a lot in replies to this story...
Now- do you know what RFD stands for, as in Mayberry?
with exceptions for just about every telemarketer including businesses, political parties, polling companies, and charities.
I am not sure if any businesses are exempt in the US Don't call list, but the US list does exempt charities, political parties and polls. Then again, would a legislative body ever pass a law that restricted themselves from calling?
Peter Gibbons: What would you do if you had a million dollars?
Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man, two chicks at the same time, man.
Peter Gibbons: That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?
Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had a million dollars I could hook that up, cause chicks dig a dude with money.
Peter Gibbons: Well, not all chicks.
Lawrence: Well the kind of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.
Peter Gibbons: Good point.
Lawrence: Well what about you now? what would you do?
Peter Gibbons: Besides two chicks at the same time?
Lawrence: Well yeah.
Peter Gibbons: Nothing.
Lawrence: Nothing, huh? Peter Gibbons: I'd relax, I would sit on my ass all day, I would do nothing.
Lawrence: Well you don't need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Just take a look at my cousin, he's broke, don't do shit.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/quotes
NOw, if only FEMA would get with the times and realize that not everyone uses windows/IE...
Believe me- I understand that sentiment. But you have to figure that a lot of people (who had them) lost their computers along with their homes and the rest of their belongings. So I assume FEMA will set up trailers with computers, rooms at shelters with computers, send people to libraries etc. Every library (with the rare exception of a few Macs) has had windows machines. And if you are going to deploy mobile computer labs, why not deploy them with the platform most people are familiar with?
Complaining about using IE for the relief benefits sounds dort of diingenous and shrill. Sort of like a starving person complaining that the meal they are given "could use a more Paprika."
I don't think any of us really choose our instant messenger. At work I use ICQ because everyone else at work uses it. BUt I also use AIM, because my little sister is away at school, and she uses AIM. I hate AIM, but if I choose not to use AIM, I am only hurting myself because then I couldn't IM my sister.
The next logical Question- Why can't I get my sister to switch? All her friends use AIM. And so it goes.
HP tend to be very easy to hook up, and integrate well with Windows. Aside from that, I can't help you.
For me, the main criteria for a game, movie or even book, is that it is interesting/challenging/entertaining enough to take my mind of the heavy things in my life.
Sure I can appreciate a book or game for its artistic merits, but the whole reason I play a game is to be entertained. The game can be something as simple as Tetris or Solitaire (perhaps with those, the word entertain doesn't fit perfectly- maybe distracted)
Anything that can be played by two people at once os also a bonus- as it lets you be around a friend without just hanging around talking, which is unmanly, unless of course we are both drunk and/or talking about sex/women in a dirty way.
It gives new meaning to "the stranger"
Rimshot
(The stranger is a masturbation tecnique whereby a male sits on his hand until it goes numb, at which point he can use the numb hand to stroke his willy, thereby recieveing tactile sensations on the male member, but not on the hand.)