Depends what you're doing on the ground. If you're welding pipe, about $2450 per week, and possibly an extra 400-700 weekly per diem depending who is hiring you.
If you're welding beams(non-pipe), about $1500ish per week, with the same per diem.
If you are welding boilers(which is more dangerous than all of the above in long-term health effects), you can expect $3500ish and up per week, with the same per diem.
Keep in mind those are just estimates where I live and work(Arkansas, Texas, mid-south), and if you travel north the rates go up nearly double once you reach WI & MI.
I can't be the only person hanging from a crane welding in new support beams on a bridge...also reminding myself to submit my kernel patches when I get home.
The pay by the way, is about the same. (30-50 for nubs, 50-100 for traveling pros)
We don't pay CS majors 65k a year out of school. You get less than half of that.
Reality is alot less comforting than your parents "computers are the future!" speech I imagine.
It does have it perks though, you will never put in a "hard days work", although you might have to press the buttons on your blackberry on the weekend.
I agree with you 100%. Banks I've worked with will hire Indian workers at 20k to network admin over 1000+ clients. That's a bare minimum 50k to a US worker. It's bullshit. I know about "hard times", but like you said, if it's hard times, then execs shouldn't be getting 7 figures.
..first one to register and create something like "seethebudget.com", mirror the gov page with forums, comments, and articles about specific parts of the budget - will be a millionaire.
Tons of folks logging on to bitch, moan, flame, and look at banner ads. Sounds like a winner =P
No, they are NOT programming languages. Don't ever delude yourself into thinking they are. A perl/python/ruby/whatever-you-learned-while-NOT-getting-a-cs program has no concept of memory management.
I modded my xbox (250gb hd, xeniumgold chip), and it doesn't even HAVE an xbox game on it. I did it to put on all my emus and about 300-350 DivX movies I ftp to it over from my PC. Also, the controller and such is so easy that my girlfriend and house guests can figure out how to watch movies, or play old emu games without me having to walk them through installing ZSNES and using bittorrent on a pc.
You both know the saying, "arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olym....", you're both retarded.
Have either of you even been inside a hydroelectric dam? Coal plan? Nuclear reactor? Ever seen the environment around where we build them? Didn't think so. Go back to work in your cubicle kiddos, we'll keep delivering your power to your homes.
Natural gas is already at quite a high pressure when coming out of the well, otherwise we wouldn't be welding 2 inch thick walled mild steel pipes to contain it[at the well].
Heating oil is for remote places [I have worked], where natural gas pipelines aren't economic, like Nome, Fairbanks, Northpoint, and erm, to be honest....entirely in Alaska and remote farming communities.
About your article: who cares? Stop wasting front page space with shit like this. Better not quit your day job fixing our McMuffins, writing might not be for you.
Exactly, who cares if people can't wrap their small minds around it. If they can't figure it out, chances are they don't need it. No use in dumbing down our tools so the cretins can feel clever with them.
Does it matter if there ever is a "year of the Linux desktop"?....Not to me.
We have several flavors of Linux to choose from, from the my-mom-can't-use-it Slackware, to my-mom-uses-it Ubuntu, SuSe, Fedora, and plenty more.
Who cares if I can't buy a Linux-loaded PC at Best Buy or other chain stores? I don't buy my PC's or parts from big box stores anyway, wtf does it matter if they carry preloaded Linux systems.
These "year of the Linux des...blahblahblah" stories are getting old. I don't want more masses of idiots using the same OS I do, or they are going to ask me for help the way they used to with Windows. It's still an incredibly useful OS, regardless of whether anyone else thinks so, or it gains "widespread adoption"[which it has].
One solution is to impose an across the board tariff on all manufactured goods entering the country, say 10% to 15%. Enough to compensate for the regulatory burden on US manufacturers, but not enough to protect inefficency.
So you think we should all pay 10 to 15 percent more for these products? Because they aren't just going to eat the tax, they are going to pass it right along to us with price increases on the products.
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Depends what you're doing on the ground. If you're welding pipe, about $2450 per week, and possibly an extra 400-700 weekly per diem depending who is hiring you.
If you're welding beams(non-pipe), about $1500ish per week, with the same per diem.
If you are welding boilers(which is more dangerous than all of the above in long-term health effects), you can expect $3500ish and up per week, with the same per diem.
Keep in mind those are just estimates where I live and work(Arkansas, Texas, mid-south), and if you travel north the rates go up nearly double once you reach WI & MI.
Your answer, it's called "welding school".
I can't be the only person hanging from a crane welding in new support beams on a bridge...also reminding myself to submit my kernel patches when I get home.
The pay by the way, is about the same. (30-50 for nubs, 50-100 for traveling pros)
We don't pay CS majors 65k a year out of school. You get less than half of that.
Reality is alot less comforting than your parents "computers are the future!" speech I imagine.
It does have it perks though, you will never put in a "hard days work", although you might have to press the buttons on your blackberry on the weekend.
I agree with you 100%. Banks I've worked with will hire Indian workers at 20k to network admin over 1000+ clients. That's a bare minimum 50k to a US worker. It's bullshit. I know about "hard times", but like you said, if it's hard times, then execs shouldn't be getting 7 figures.
Take is slow
damnit i can't stop! there is a "page 2" link at the bottom, but no page 3 =( and it's all in italian, but goddamn!
bwahahahahahahahaha.
..first one to register and create something like "seethebudget.com", mirror the gov page with forums, comments, and articles about specific parts of the budget - will be a millionaire.
Tons of folks logging on to bitch, moan, flame, and look at banner ads. Sounds like a winner =P
That makes far too much sense to ever pass. I don't know how our system can be changed without t
No, they are NOT programming languages. Don't ever delude yourself into thinking they are. A perl/python/ruby/whatever-you-learned-while-NOT-getting-a-cs program has no concept of memory management.
/agree
ready, it's got more work than any one human can pull off, and it's located at http://kernel.org/
Please stop submitting stories, each one is uniquely similar to shit.
I modded my xbox (250gb hd, xeniumgold chip), and it doesn't even HAVE an xbox game on it. I did it to put on all my emus and about 300-350 DivX movies I ftp to it over from my PC. Also, the controller and such is so easy that my girlfriend and house guests can figure out how to watch movies, or play old emu games without me having to walk them through installing ZSNES and using bittorrent on a pc.
The sad part is, you wouldn't even grasp how to rub the sticks together to heat up your bark to gnaw on.
Bono doesn't have any musical tutorials for you either =(
So at the end of the day, my equipment consumes 100 liters of diesel, and produces 11 kilograms of uranium ripe for enrichment.
You are comparing the expenditure of a flashlight battery to acquire the energy of a star.
You both know the saying, "arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olym....", you're both retarded.
Have either of you even been inside a hydroelectric dam? Coal plan? Nuclear reactor? Ever seen the environment around where we build them? Didn't think so. Go back to work in your cubicle kiddos, we'll keep delivering your power to your homes.
Natural gas is already at quite a high pressure when coming out of the well, otherwise we wouldn't be welding 2 inch thick walled mild steel pipes to contain it[at the well].
Heating oil is for remote places [I have worked], where natural gas pipelines aren't economic, like Nome, Fairbanks, Northpoint, and erm, to be honest....entirely in Alaska and remote farming communities.
Who lets this kid on the front page of my slashdot. Pathetic.
About your article: who cares? Stop wasting front page space with shit like this. Better not quit your day job fixing our McMuffins, writing might not be for you.
Sad state of affairs. At first I wanted to disagree with you, but I suppose you're right. It is a con.
Exactly, who cares if people can't wrap their small minds around it. If they can't figure it out, chances are they don't need it. No use in dumbing down our tools so the cretins can feel clever with them.
Does it matter if there ever is a "year of the Linux desktop"? ....Not to me.
We have several flavors of Linux to choose from, from the my-mom-can't-use-it Slackware, to my-mom-uses-it Ubuntu, SuSe, Fedora, and plenty more.
Who cares if I can't buy a Linux-loaded PC at Best Buy or other chain stores? I don't buy my PC's or parts from big box stores anyway, wtf does it matter if they carry preloaded Linux systems.
These "year of the Linux des...blahblahblah" stories are getting old. I don't want more masses of idiots using the same OS I do, or they are going to ask me for help the way they used to with Windows. It's still an incredibly useful OS, regardless of whether anyone else thinks so, or it gains "widespread adoption"[which it has].
One solution is to impose an across the board tariff on all manufactured goods entering the country, say 10% to 15%. Enough to compensate for the regulatory burden on US manufacturers, but not enough to protect inefficency.
So you think we should all pay 10 to 15 percent more for these products? Because they aren't just going to eat the tax, they are going to pass it right along to us with price increases on the products.
"Wall Street" isn't obligated to fund anything.