How do you get a 3 for Insightful? You are attacking the AC, which was me by the way. Spineless fairy? Special snowflake?
Can't handle criticism? Elect politicians who'd love to stamp out free speech? Arguments without merit?
Look in the mirror and tell me what you see.
Wow. We are talking about a user interface. It works for some but not for others. I stated that it was nice to give the users the ability to choose between the two. What is the big deal? This is not some life or death situation. It is just a personal preference. I do like change and am willing to try new interfaces. I have used most of them over the past 20 years. I just happen to like Unity. And the global menu is no big deal to me anymore. That is all I was saying. You, sir, went off the deep end with your response.
I would have made the same arguments epyT-R did whether you post as AC or under your own name. If you make baseless accusations that anyone who doesn't believe as you do is a right-wing highly conservative Luddite, then you've lost your right to complain when answered in kind. Resistance to change isn't limited to any political party. You just used a variant of the Godwin argument.
I always thought linux users were not afraid of change and welcomed the new. Sometimes I think some linux users are a bunch of luddites with strong
right wing conservative leanings. Who would have thought.
How does this one preference (each app having its own menu, instead of a single global menu) indicate any political leaning?
ology means the study of, so people might think that astrology is the study of stars. Not many people are familiar with nomos (the arrangement of). These two things have only relatively recently (17th century) split.
Goodbye to the ##altslashdot crowd, and thanks for all the fish...
Maybe now the rest of us who do not see Beta as the end of the world, but rather as an honest attempt to bring Slashdot into the mobile touchscreen 21st century, can enjoy our articles in peace...
Perhaps Dice could be smart about who's on a mobile device or tablet instead of forcing one interface on all platforms? That's the biggest complaint against Unity and Windows 8. A laptop or desktop with keyboard and mouse is vastly different from a mobile device or tablet with limited screen real estate and touch screen input.
What puzzles me is the fervor with which the article repeats the word "Obama", even where they have to rather stretch grammatical rules to work it in ("high-ranking President Barack Obama administration officials spent years covering it up." Nice to know which President Obama: the high-ranking one, not the low-ranking President Obama.).
This started in 2004, five years before Obama took office in 2009. So I'd say that they ought to give Bush a bit of the blame; at least, say, for the first five years spent covering it up.
Um, it's saying high-ranking officials in the Obama administration, not that President Obama is high-ranking. This was a faux-pas regardless of the political party involved (is the FBI linked to a particular party?).
lengthy doesn't mean well thought out.
It's rife with logical fallacies, pretentious BS, and flat out bad thinking.
I normally ignore the comments about Beta - I come to./ for real comments. However, when I saw someone expressing why they hate Beta so much, I had to reward him. As a regular part of my job I interact with clients who can't express themselves beyond "I don't like it". After two weeks of pulling teeth, I find out they don't like a particular shade of blue. This commentator gives some specific examples of things to change in Beta (such as storing functionality). No, the post wasn't perfect, but it was definitely a step up for the anti-Beta crowd.
Unlike most protestors, you seem to have a brain. Thank you for a well thought out exposition of what the movement really means instead of just parroting "F Beta".
I haven't yet been switched to the new LAF, so I can't comment on Beta's strengths and short-comings. If people, like you, would say why it's bad instead of spouting profanity, maybe Dice will listen. The current theme does look like it's from the 1990s. I'm not saying that's a bad thing - I remember using Archie and Mosaic. It was a great time for a geek to grow up. Dice wants a return on its investment, so that means that current users need to unblock ads (and actually click on a few), or Dice needs to attract a new crowd that will.
One gentleman was standing on a street corner, with his son, telling every woman that walked by in a skirt that she was... well, a lady of the night... anyways, I felt bad for his kid that was forced to hold up a not-very-nice sign while his father was clearly losing his mind in front of a crowd so I engaged the man. He actually claimed that he hadn't sinned in 10 years. Which means he clearly didn't understand that bible AT ALL. So it all came down to: "Sir, could God make a square circle?" which is of course the old Omnipotence paradox. He got angry and started yelling that I was just using a straw-man argument. I explained that I wasn't, and that this question did indeed have a correct answer. So I asked his kid holding the sign what he thought. He said "I don't know" and I told him "Neither do I! Welcome to the club!" While God may be omnipotent, he does not expect you to be. You can not know everything about about anything and he just expects you to do the best that you can.
Omnipotent: having all power (that exists) Omniscient: having all knowledge. While the question about the square circle is about omnipotence, not knowing that answer shows that you are not omniscient.
The question I've often heard is: Can God create a rock so large that He couldn't lift it?
Do you trust any company with all the data it would take to train the AI? Do you trust the employees of that company not to read your emails and online posts and use it against you before you die? Do you trust their servers not to get hacked resulting in massive identity theft?
Professionals use tools like netcat for testing connectivity between systems on specific TCP ports or to ensure there is a service listening.
Now if you need to actually interact with a service in a specific way, for example telnet to an smtp service to send mail, I guess telnet is useful in that case.
Verify that httpd is properly configured and running involves more than seeing if a server is listening on port 80 - it involves sending proper headers and comparing the response with what I'm expecting.
I use telnet to debug different servers. For example, I may telnet on port 80 to verify that httpd is running and is properly configured, or to get the real error message hidden by the "helpful" message by my email client.
That's the rub though- there is not 'white' identity. What is the culture of an Appalachian coal miner -vs- middle class suburban dweller outside Boston? Does this include Mormons? White doesn't really mean much anymore other than some kind of way to obfuscate a conversation- much like the term Hispanic.
Mormon is a religious classification, not a race. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints come from all races. A 2007 survey showed that 86% of Mormons in the US were White, 7% were Hispanic, and 3% Black. Only about 48% of LdS live within the US. The Church does not keep tabs on race, so figures outside the US are hard to find. Among my own family, two of my brothers married Asians, another brother married a Polynesian, another brother married a Latina (as did I), and my sister married a Latino. Three of our spouses were born outside the US, two of which immigrated to our country.
At least someone other than me noticed and pointed that out. But you know everyone on any side of this argument is extremely prejudiced and short-sighted due to pre-existing beliefs. See the very next root topic down for why people really ought to expand their thinking to consider all possible theories.
My dad is a prominent scientist and a Christian. I was raised not to believe in a literal 6-day Creation. I was also taught that science tries to explain things the best way possible according to what evidence we now have; explanations may be refined with further evidence.
TFA is itself flame bait. Note that the map shows schools that may teach alternative theories (including arguing against human caused global warming), but in the title implies that they do teach creationism using public funds.
"My neighbor asked me to come over and help fix his PC. Before he let me in the door he made my promise I wouldn't tell anyone what I saw. When I came in and saw his PC, it will filled with child porn. I called the police but they told me that I can't report it is a crime because it's a secret. So I took out a newspaper ad letting people know that my neighbor is a bad guy and is breaking the law. Since he's really big and has a lot of guns, I was afraid to go home, so I had to move half-way around the world to protect myself from being shot in the middle of the night."
That would be the appropriate parallel.
In your better example, I didn't break any law in order to obtain the evidence. Snowden obtained the evidence he released by stealing usernames and passwords.
This isn't about what the NSA did (that is a separate issue and should be dealt with). This is about how Snowden obtained the evidence, and the manner in which he released said evidence.
Snowden committed crimes. For the rule of law, he should be tried and sentenced to the prescribed penalty for those crimes.
I'm glad we know what he told us. But you can't not prosecute people who undoubtedly did commit crimes because you agree with their stated motives.
Where are mod points when I need them?
Snowden should be tried for the crimes he committed. Whistle blowers should be protected up to a point, but they are still responsible for the laws they break. This is not to say that the NSA isn't in need of reform and greater oversight.
If I broke into my neighbor's house (a crime), and while in there I find child porn, and thus report him to the police, what should happen? Do I get a free pass for my crime because I exposed a more despicable crime? Does my neighbor get charged despite the evidence being obtained illegally?
Yes it does answer the question. The course and the test come as one. You don't get to 'just sign up for the course'. You could skip the exam but you'd be taking an F and Fs look bad.
At my high school, it was not mandatory to take the exam for AP classes. I chose to take the AP Calculus exam (got 13 credit hours for my score), but opted out of my AP English exam (my school really taught Pidgin, so I wasn't sure how I would do in American English). Grades were based on homework and sample tests.
How recent is the CS AP exam? I couldn't take CS classes at my high school - I graduated in '98 and high school level comp sci wasn't even a thing yet except at specialty schools. So, the exam itself is probably less than 15 years old - I suspect it's much newer than that.
AP exams also cost money to take, and they're only worth it if the college you're planning to attend accepts it in exchange for credit. How many colleges accept a passing AP exam score to opt out of Comp Sci 101?
I graduated in 1994. My "computer" class involved playing console games. Grading was based entirely on attendance. I had to teach my teacher how to password-protect his computer. The class didn't even cover basic typing, much less electronics or programming. At the time, the other AP exams I was aware of cost $75.
REAL REASON ==> HS girls don't want to take a class filled with Slashdot types.
REAL REASON #2 ==> AP Computer Science classes are mostly offered in the wealthy suburbs where few minorities live.
REAL REASON #3 Very few high schools in the US offer AP classes in CS. My high school only had AP classes in English, History, and Mathematics. In fact, no school in my entire state offered AP classes in CS when I was a student.
You don't 'have enough nuclear weapons on hand to destroy the world'. That would take a fsckload more than we had even at the peak of the Cold War. That's why the anti-nukes had to invent 'nuclear winter' to make nukes seem scarier.
A nuclear war with the current stockpiles would be a really bad day, but nothing even approaching 'destroying the world'.
When people talk about enough nukes to destroy the world, they generally mean enough nukes to destroy everything on this rock. The planet will continue to exist, but nothing (or next to nothing) will survive.
I think the whole point is that TFS makes it sound like no geek has ever analyzed code shown in movies or on TV. There are geek points available for identifying the language shown (bonus points for identifying the project). I would be concerned about anyone who thought it was a revelation that the code displayed almost never does what the characters say it does.
Really? How is this a slashdot conversation piece?
Every person here has seen a freeze frame from a stupid news story or Hollywood movie that is obvious simple HTML, a directory listing, a CSS file, or something inconsequential. Not a surprise to anyone who even know what slashdot is.
I totally agree that most geeks I know have already pointed out the bogus code from movies. Would it be better to show the source code of a real virus if John Q. Public can't tell the difference and some script kiddie decides to try it out?
Climate scientists do NOT make those claims and have been explicitly stating that no single weather event can conclusively be linked to AGW.
Also, the "G" in AGW stands for GLOBAL, which seems to be a difficult concept for some North Americans to grasp.
While the polar vortex was wreaking havoc in America, much of Scandinavia was having an unusually warm winter, with flowering plants & bears coming out of hibernation.
Global means everywhere. Warm winter in Scandinavia is local; polar vortex in North America is local. GLOBAL warming is a myth. The evidence supports global climate CHANGE; this change is warming in some places and cooling in others.
"There's no global warming because I'm cold."
"There's no poverty because I'm rich."
"There's no racism because I'm white."
There is no global warming, just global climate change. I'm seeing trends in local weather getting more extreme (hotter in some places, cooler in others).
I'm neither rich nor poor, but I personally know millionaires and people who earn less than $250 per month. It's the old joke about the difference between a recession and depression (it's a depression if I am affected, but just a recession if a friend is affected).
I grew up in Hawaii. Only 20% of my high school was White. Believe me that racism against Whites was rampant. A friend of mine had his arm broken for being White.
Slashdot Mirror
How do you get a 3 for Insightful? You are attacking the AC, which was me by the way. Spineless fairy? Special snowflake? Can't handle criticism? Elect politicians who'd love to stamp out free speech? Arguments without merit? Look in the mirror and tell me what you see. Wow. We are talking about a user interface. It works for some but not for others. I stated that it was nice to give the users the ability to choose between the two. What is the big deal? This is not some life or death situation. It is just a personal preference. I do like change and am willing to try new interfaces. I have used most of them over the past 20 years. I just happen to like Unity. And the global menu is no big deal to me anymore. That is all I was saying. You, sir, went off the deep end with your response.
I would have made the same arguments epyT-R did whether you post as AC or under your own name. If you make baseless accusations that anyone who doesn't believe as you do is a right-wing highly conservative Luddite, then you've lost your right to complain when answered in kind. Resistance to change isn't limited to any political party. You just used a variant of the Godwin argument.
I always thought linux users were not afraid of change and welcomed the new. Sometimes I think some linux users are a bunch of luddites with strong right wing conservative leanings. Who would have thought.
How does this one preference (each app having its own menu, instead of a single global menu) indicate any political leaning?
ology means the study of, so people might think that astrology is the study of stars. Not many people are familiar with nomos (the arrangement of). These two things have only relatively recently (17th century) split.
Goodbye to the ##altslashdot crowd, and thanks for all the fish...
Maybe now the rest of us who do not see Beta as the end of the world, but rather as an honest attempt to bring Slashdot into the mobile touchscreen 21st century, can enjoy our articles in peace...
Perhaps Dice could be smart about who's on a mobile device or tablet instead of forcing one interface on all platforms? That's the biggest complaint against Unity and Windows 8. A laptop or desktop with keyboard and mouse is vastly different from a mobile device or tablet with limited screen real estate and touch screen input.
What puzzles me is the fervor with which the article repeats the word "Obama", even where they have to rather stretch grammatical rules to work it in ("high-ranking President Barack Obama administration officials spent years covering it up." Nice to know which President Obama: the high-ranking one, not the low-ranking President Obama.).
This started in 2004, five years before Obama took office in 2009. So I'd say that they ought to give Bush a bit of the blame; at least, say, for the first five years spent covering it up.
Um, it's saying high-ranking officials in the Obama administration, not that President Obama is high-ranking. This was a faux-pas regardless of the political party involved (is the FBI linked to a particular party?).
lengthy doesn't mean well thought out. It's rife with logical fallacies, pretentious BS, and flat out bad thinking.
I normally ignore the comments about Beta - I come to ./ for real comments. However, when I saw someone expressing why they hate Beta so much, I had to reward him. As a regular part of my job I interact with clients who can't express themselves beyond "I don't like it". After two weeks of pulling teeth, I find out they don't like a particular shade of blue. This commentator gives some specific examples of things to change in Beta (such as storing functionality). No, the post wasn't perfect, but it was definitely a step up for the anti-Beta crowd.
Unlike most protestors, you seem to have a brain. Thank you for a well thought out exposition of what the movement really means instead of just parroting "F Beta".
I haven't yet been switched to the new LAF, so I can't comment on Beta's strengths and short-comings. If people, like you, would say why it's bad instead of spouting profanity, maybe Dice will listen. The current theme does look like it's from the 1990s. I'm not saying that's a bad thing - I remember using Archie and Mosaic. It was a great time for a geek to grow up. Dice wants a return on its investment, so that means that current users need to unblock ads (and actually click on a few), or Dice needs to attract a new crowd that will.
One gentleman was standing on a street corner, with his son, telling every woman that walked by in a skirt that she was... well, a lady of the night... anyways, I felt bad for his kid that was forced to hold up a not-very-nice sign while his father was clearly losing his mind in front of a crowd so I engaged the man. He actually claimed that he hadn't sinned in 10 years. Which means he clearly didn't understand that bible AT ALL. So it all came down to: "Sir, could God make a square circle?" which is of course the old Omnipotence paradox. He got angry and started yelling that I was just using a straw-man argument. I explained that I wasn't, and that this question did indeed have a correct answer. So I asked his kid holding the sign what he thought. He said "I don't know" and I told him "Neither do I! Welcome to the club!" While God may be omnipotent, he does not expect you to be. You can not know everything about about anything and he just expects you to do the best that you can.
Omnipotent: having all power (that exists)
Omniscient: having all knowledge. While the question about the square circle is about omnipotence, not knowing that answer shows that you are not omniscient.
The question I've often heard is: Can God create a rock so large that He couldn't lift it?
Do you trust any company with all the data it would take to train the AI? Do you trust the employees of that company not to read your emails and online posts and use it against you before you die? Do you trust their servers not to get hacked resulting in massive identity theft?
Professionals use tools like netcat for testing connectivity between systems on specific TCP ports or to ensure there is a service listening.
Now if you need to actually interact with a service in a specific way, for example telnet to an smtp service to send mail, I guess telnet is useful in that case.
Verify that httpd is properly configured and running involves more than seeing if a server is listening on port 80 - it involves sending proper headers and comparing the response with what I'm expecting.
Whilst the USA might be having an unusually cold snap, how often is the temp below 0F there, other than Alaska?
Northern Utah went below 0F for a couple of days in December. I must admit, though, that sub-zero and below-freezing are more common terms here.
I use telnet to debug different servers. For example, I may telnet on port 80 to verify that httpd is running and is properly configured, or to get the real error message hidden by the "helpful" message by my email client.
That's the rub though- there is not 'white' identity. What is the culture of an Appalachian coal miner -vs- middle class suburban dweller outside Boston? Does this include Mormons? White doesn't really mean much anymore other than some kind of way to obfuscate a conversation- much like the term Hispanic.
Mormon is a religious classification, not a race. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints come from all races. A 2007 survey showed that 86% of Mormons in the US were White, 7% were Hispanic, and 3% Black. Only about 48% of LdS live within the US. The Church does not keep tabs on race, so figures outside the US are hard to find. Among my own family, two of my brothers married Asians, another brother married a Polynesian, another brother married a Latina (as did I), and my sister married a Latino. Three of our spouses were born outside the US, two of which immigrated to our country.
At least someone other than me noticed and pointed that out. But you know everyone on any side of this argument is extremely prejudiced and short-sighted due to pre-existing beliefs. See the very next root topic down for why people really ought to expand their thinking to consider all possible theories.
My dad is a prominent scientist and a Christian. I was raised not to believe in a literal 6-day Creation. I was also taught that science tries to explain things the best way possible according to what evidence we now have; explanations may be refined with further evidence.
TFA is itself flame bait. Note that the map shows schools that may teach alternative theories (including arguing against human caused global warming), but in the title implies that they do teach creationism using public funds.
A better example is:
"My neighbor asked me to come over and help fix his PC. Before he let me in the door he made my promise I wouldn't tell anyone what I saw. When I came in and saw his PC, it will filled with child porn. I called the police but they told me that I can't report it is a crime because it's a secret. So I took out a newspaper ad letting people know that my neighbor is a bad guy and is breaking the law. Since he's really big and has a lot of guns, I was afraid to go home, so I had to move half-way around the world to protect myself from being shot in the middle of the night."
That would be the appropriate parallel.
In your better example, I didn't break any law in order to obtain the evidence. Snowden obtained the evidence he released by stealing usernames and passwords.
This isn't about what the NSA did (that is a separate issue and should be dealt with). This is about how Snowden obtained the evidence, and the manner in which he released said evidence.
Snowden committed crimes. For the rule of law, he should be tried and sentenced to the prescribed penalty for those crimes.
I'm glad we know what he told us. But you can't not prosecute people who undoubtedly did commit crimes because you agree with their stated motives.
Where are mod points when I need them?
Snowden should be tried for the crimes he committed. Whistle blowers should be protected up to a point, but they are still responsible for the laws they break. This is not to say that the NSA isn't in need of reform and greater oversight.
If I broke into my neighbor's house (a crime), and while in there I find child porn, and thus report him to the police, what should happen? Do I get a free pass for my crime because I exposed a more despicable crime? Does my neighbor get charged despite the evidence being obtained illegally?
Yes it does answer the question. The course and the test come as one. You don't get to 'just sign up for the course'. You could skip the exam but you'd be taking an F and Fs look bad.
At my high school, it was not mandatory to take the exam for AP classes. I chose to take the AP Calculus exam (got 13 credit hours for my score), but opted out of my AP English exam (my school really taught Pidgin, so I wasn't sure how I would do in American English). Grades were based on homework and sample tests.
How recent is the CS AP exam? I couldn't take CS classes at my high school - I graduated in '98 and high school level comp sci wasn't even a thing yet except at specialty schools. So, the exam itself is probably less than 15 years old - I suspect it's much newer than that. AP exams also cost money to take, and they're only worth it if the college you're planning to attend accepts it in exchange for credit. How many colleges accept a passing AP exam score to opt out of Comp Sci 101?
I graduated in 1994. My "computer" class involved playing console games. Grading was based entirely on attendance. I had to teach my teacher how to password-protect his computer. The class didn't even cover basic typing, much less electronics or programming. At the time, the other AP exams I was aware of cost $75.
Heh.
REAL REASON ==> HS girls don't want to take a class filled with Slashdot types.
REAL REASON #2 ==> AP Computer Science classes are mostly offered in the wealthy suburbs where few minorities live.
REAL REASON #3 Very few high schools in the US offer AP classes in CS. My high school only had AP classes in English, History, and Mathematics. In fact, no school in my entire state offered AP classes in CS when I was a student.
You don't 'have enough nuclear weapons on hand to destroy the world'. That would take a fsckload more than we had even at the peak of the Cold War. That's why the anti-nukes had to invent 'nuclear winter' to make nukes seem scarier.
A nuclear war with the current stockpiles would be a really bad day, but nothing even approaching 'destroying the world'.
When people talk about enough nukes to destroy the world, they generally mean enough nukes to destroy everything on this rock. The planet will continue to exist, but nothing (or next to nothing) will survive.
I think the whole point is that TFS makes it sound like no geek has ever analyzed code shown in movies or on TV. There are geek points available for identifying the language shown (bonus points for identifying the project). I would be concerned about anyone who thought it was a revelation that the code displayed almost never does what the characters say it does.
Really? How is this a slashdot conversation piece?
Every person here has seen a freeze frame from a stupid news story or Hollywood movie that is obvious simple HTML, a directory listing, a CSS file, or something inconsequential. Not a surprise to anyone who even know what slashdot is.
I totally agree that most geeks I know have already pointed out the bogus code from movies. Would it be better to show the source code of a real virus if John Q. Public can't tell the difference and some script kiddie decides to try it out?
Climate scientists do NOT make those claims and have been explicitly stating that no single weather event can conclusively be linked to AGW.
Also, the "G" in AGW stands for GLOBAL, which seems to be a difficult concept for some North Americans to grasp.
While the polar vortex was wreaking havoc in America, much of Scandinavia was having an unusually warm winter, with flowering plants & bears coming out of hibernation.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/10/polar-vortex-us-mild-weather-scandinavia
So whose narrative does that jibe with?
Global means everywhere. Warm winter in Scandinavia is local; polar vortex in North America is local. GLOBAL warming is a myth. The evidence supports global climate CHANGE; this change is warming in some places and cooling in others.
It's all the same
"There's no global warming because I'm cold." "There's no poverty because I'm rich." "There's no racism because I'm white."
There is no global warming, just global climate change. I'm seeing trends in local weather getting more extreme (hotter in some places, cooler in others).
I'm neither rich nor poor, but I personally know millionaires and people who earn less than $250 per month. It's the old joke about the difference between a recession and depression (it's a depression if I am affected, but just a recession if a friend is affected).
I grew up in Hawaii. Only 20% of my high school was White. Believe me that racism against Whites was rampant. A friend of mine had his arm broken for being White.