Exactly, which is why it's silly for the parent to write "Which is pure marketing because all the major distributions work equally well (or not well) with Windows." Ubuntu and SuSE do not work equally well with corporate Windows, particularly in respect to Microsoft Active Directory et. al.
Was just trying to point out that different distros, developed for different markets, do not in fact work equally well (or not well). They are not all created equally in respects to Windows integration.
This is blatantly incorrect. I can connect SuSE to our Active Directory during installation through a GUI quite easily, or after installation at any time through the YaST administrative utility. In a Microsoft environment, SuSE makes things easy.
Ubuntu, on the other hand, requires roughly 3 hours of hacking and coding. Canonical has no interest whatsoever in making it play nice with Windows beyond implementing and supporting SMB.
Not trying to be snide, but RTFA. I just finished all 103 posts in the mailing list and it's not really as bad as it seems.
I could write a long explanation of what 2.3 does and what the pros and cons are, but they've been enumerated in other posts here, and more eloquently and correctly in the original mailing list. I run WordPress as well, and will likely update when all is said and done. The issue really seems to be one of ethics and privacy concern rather than security, and I think the privacy concerns will be addressed adequately to soothe even my paranoid ire. Read what Matt (the lead developer) has to say rather than KDawson (the apparent bearer of all FUD) and then decide.
Is there a way to cross-post entries automagically to LiveJournal and Xanga? Without having to do anything other than install a plugin?
I won't be upgrading WordPress until I read more about this, but I'd rather be blogging than coding... considering I'm a writer, not a coder. And having WordPress push out to LJ and Xanga, which is how most of my friends read my blog (as opposed to random people, who hit my site first) is fantastic. Don't really want to give that up.
I do, and so do a lot of cash-paying gamers out there. Do you really think they'd make the games if people weren't buying them?
The videos for Assassin's Creed blew me away, and it may very well be the first game I've ever pre-ordered (though this is largely due to the fact that I had a gift-certificate to use and nothing else to use it on). It's exceedingly beautiful and the engine astounds me. That's what I'm paying for. The same goes for Gears of War. I bought it because it looked kind of cool; I didn't know how gameplay would be until I played it.
If it is pretty AND has great gameplay, that ensures I'll buy the sequel. But let's be honest: I buy the game up front because it looks cool.
AND, if you're instead referring to the Cisco Secure Services Client, Linux should be able to connect depending on what protocol they're using. What uni are you at, and what protocol is it (LEAP, PEAP, etc.)?
Feel free to contact me outside the limits of this message board. I work at a university in computer services and am one of two (staff) who run Linux on campus, so I know what it's like trying to get things to work in a Windows-centric environment.
That was the primary criticism he received about his data presentation. Everything he said, we already knew. Those who engaged in such trade had, for quite some time, been compiling their own data and making their own graphs. And that was without direct database access.
It was shiny, but it wasn't anything new or exciting (or at least exciting to the right people). Hopefully, his quarterly or annual report will be more beneficial. People had several requests in the forum thread for what they'd like to see him reporting on and taking into account, and since he comes from an "academic background that is driven by criticism," hopefully we'll see some progress.
I switched to Linux at home a few months ago and have been quite pleased. The only downside is that Ventrilo is either a pain to get working or doesn't work at all =( Other than that, I can play everything I had been playing before.
I subscribe to Cedega to help support the cause of gaming on Linux, but Wine is getting so good that it often works better just by itself... just finished a long session of WoW in Cedega, though, and was playing EVE-Online earlier. Haven't touched Oblivion for a while, but it works as well. Same for BF2 and CS:S.
There just aren't that many barriers anymore to switching.
Extreme cases != majority. I say this from the perspective of a member of a church in the Bible-Belt of the USA, part-time staff for the same church, and having been active in college ministry for several years.
Yeah, there are bad people. There are way more than there should be. But all a person being bad means is that the individual is wrong, or screwed up. Not that everyone else in their group/religion is. Claiming otherwise isn't a whole lot different than racism.
Actually, since Symantec's updates are coming pretty frequently, Norton Antivirus is able to disinfect computers with Storm and keep computers secure. Users just need to know to run their updates.
As for it being a trojan, that's not quite correct. In its original iteration, it did have to be run, but we are receiving more and more emails with code that is executed through the preview pane of Outlook. Depending on how Outlook is set up (which is always to the user's preference, as they tend to do that themselves), they may automatically download attachments, automatically view messages, etc. The main problem for us are the Storm infected PDFs we're receiving, as they're worming into computers without users even opening the attachment. Outlook's just not the most secure by default (though those options can be turned on).
Better education for our users would go a long way, but we can't convince them that they need it and the administration isn't going to make it mandatory to attend computer security courses. So in the end, your tirade is off topic, which you'd be aware of if you did more than read about a virus and actually had to deal with it. Intelligent users will always be able to overcome a virus, no matter what kind it is.
Dell's shipping their laptops with Linux compatible hardware. Chances are your "new low end desktop machine" doesn't fit that bill.
Generally, nVidia works well with Linux and Ubuntu in particular. What chipset do you have?
Also, yeah, they're probably shipping it with one of the free Ubuntu CDs that Canonical hands out by the truckload. Pretty sure Dell's just doing a fairly basic install of Ubuntu.
Honestly, I'm kind of surprised by your experience with Ubuntu. I was really anti-Ubuntu when I tried Edgy Eft (I learned after the fact that everyone thought Edgy sucked, but it was my first experience with Ubuntu) and it dive-bombed on 3 separate computers on me. However, loving Ubuntu's philosophy, I gave it a try on my laptop a few months after Feisty Fawn came out. Super fast, everything worked (wireless required some tweaks, but some nice guy had written a script that required nothing more than running it and clicking a button!), and I had Linux on a laptop with no troubles. Decided to try it at home and my desktop is faster than ever. It boots significantly faster than XP did, it's (of course) more secure, though I already had my XP install pretty locked down, and it's got all the many benefits of Linux. The GUI's fast and intuitive, my fiance figured out on her own how to import photos from our digital camera (simply by plugging it in; it just worked!) and how to navigate to upload them to Facebook, and I play World of Warcraft, Oblivion, and EVE-Online on it without a problem (most of the time >_> ). My experience with Feisty Fawn has been flawless, and I recommend it to everyone now.
Maybe my system's just a bit faster to get over some threshold, but my laptop's 3 years old and nothing to brag about anymore (was a nice gaming laptop when I bought it). I'm guessing you had some hardware issue or, perhaps, were you using Edgy Eft? Feisty Fawn feels lightyears ahead of Edgy.
k3b is the first thing that comes to mind for me, but it's certainly not the only piece of software that comes bundled or, at the least, easily installable on Linux for FREE that does a fantastic job. I can't burn CDs, DVDs, and ISOs on Windows easily or for free (admittedly, the machines we receive at work come with a limited version of Roxio, but it's not great), and I certainly can't mount ISOs (mount ftw) without "acquiring" an app to do the job.
More tools are built into the command line in Linux than Windows is capable of doing through the GUI. More tools come for free in the GUI of Linux than all of Windows can offer without shelling out loads of cash. The first time I can boot someone into Linux and show them all they can do right out of the box, they're hooked. And for me, that has been every time.
I'd guess that someone had already combined a web interface with something like an NFS/AFS share long before S3.
First thing that popped into my head was Webmin. Strip it down to just the FTP functionality and you're close.
Not saying that Webmin = Amazon S3 (which I haven't seen and have no experience with), just that I can't see accessing storage through a web interface as something that is patentable. Reminds me too much of other apps I've seen. I don't see how a patent like this can do anything other than to stifle competition and help ensure a (temporary) monopoly.
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I suspect the requirement that one must be a US citizen is because the camp is subsidized by US taxes and due to laziness. Not that laziness is a bad thing; taking care of the paperwork for non-citizens and international students at a state university is a PITA, and for professors who are working for cheap over the summer, there's not a lot of incentive to do all the extra work.
I got through to two of my three representatives listed on SaveNetRadio.org. The first in the list had a busy signal, so maybe he's getting flooded with calls *crosses his fingers*
The two offices I did get a hold of stated that the representatives had not taken a stance on the issue yet, but that they would be happy to pass my message along. To be honest, this is the first time I've called. Feels like a meager effort, but at least I did something. Just wish I could do more... like vote on the issue myself.
Conversely, I bought a video iPod specifically for the video functionality. I take telecourses at the college I work at, so I get them on DVD and watch them during lunch or while I'm traveling somewhere (walking or riding the bus). Makes my semesters significantly easier.
It is correct to state that the iPod excels because of how little it does. What it does, it does well. It's simple and straightforward. It does what I want it to, and doesn't do all the junk I don't need. In short, it is efficient, and that is what appeals most to me.
After working with Vista on RC1 and learning it at work for support, then teaching a few intro classes on it, I switched to Linux. Now I've got a number of other people interested in switching because I'm able to continue playing WoW, EVE, Oblivion, et. al. while avoiding Vista and Microsoft's philosophy of DRM. Even have my fiance using Ubuntu now.
I'm not anti-M$--I love my XBox 360, and Office 2007 is all kinds of shiny--I'm just anti-Windows.
I went with OpenSuSE 10.2 at work because it Just Works(TM) with Active Directory and Windows networks. For the environment we have at our university, OpenSuSE just seems to work better. But when I needed to rebuild my laptop (which is only used by my fiance to browse the web, check email, and play World of Warcraft), I decided to put Ubuntu on it. I'm going to get her a laptop in a few months, probably one of the Dell Ubuntu ones, and figured I should start her off now getting used to the OS.
It went so smoothly, I installed Ubuntu over SuSE. It has been very slick, and for the first time ever, it feels like Ubuntu is Just Working for me. It never has before... and the Synaptics Package Manager is so much faster than YaST that I'm completely sold. Feels like Gnome is more efficient on Ubuntu as well.
Consider me consolidated. Novell's agreement with Microsoft (though I didn't read about it until long after the fact) put a sour taste in my mouth. I'm relatively new to Linux, but a big pull for me was to escape M$. I feel a bit more free using Ubuntu.
I've been using OpenSUSE for a few months now--my first concerted foray into Linux besides a Mandriva webserver I set up a couple of years ago to start learning--and really liking it, but the patent-deals I wasn't aware of then are making me uncomfortable now. As frustrating as Ubuntu has been for me (I feel like my hands are tied with it, compared to being more free to do whatever I want in SuSE), I'm seriously considering switching just to be more free. My sense of independence is very important to me, and I don't like the idea of having my PC so tied to Microsoft...
That or I'll go to Fedora Core, since I really like my RPM repositories...
If I vote for someone based on their position and they do not abide by that position (because they lied or got bribed or whatever the case may be), I feel that I have the right to hold them accountable to that.
If I vote for someone other than the person who wins, I still retain my right to voice my opinion and speak out against their policies.
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Or you could just invest in Transgaming and Wine development.
Exactly, which is why it's silly for the parent to write "Which is pure marketing because all the major distributions work equally well (or not well) with Windows." Ubuntu and SuSE do not work equally well with corporate Windows, particularly in respect to Microsoft Active Directory et. al.
Was just trying to point out that different distros, developed for different markets, do not in fact work equally well (or not well). They are not all created equally in respects to Windows integration.
SuSE integrates with Microsoft Active Directory much more easily than any distro I've used.
This is blatantly incorrect. I can connect SuSE to our Active Directory during installation through a GUI quite easily, or after installation at any time through the YaST administrative utility. In a Microsoft environment, SuSE makes things easy.
Ubuntu, on the other hand, requires roughly 3 hours of hacking and coding. Canonical has no interest whatsoever in making it play nice with Windows beyond implementing and supporting SMB.
Not trying to be snide, but RTFA. I just finished all 103 posts in the mailing list and it's not really as bad as it seems.
I could write a long explanation of what 2.3 does and what the pros and cons are, but they've been enumerated in other posts here, and more eloquently and correctly in the original mailing list. I run WordPress as well, and will likely update when all is said and done. The issue really seems to be one of ethics and privacy concern rather than security, and I think the privacy concerns will be addressed adequately to soothe even my paranoid ire. Read what Matt (the lead developer) has to say rather than KDawson (the apparent bearer of all FUD) and then decide.
Is there a way to cross-post entries automagically to LiveJournal and Xanga? Without having to do anything other than install a plugin?
I won't be upgrading WordPress until I read more about this, but I'd rather be blogging than coding... considering I'm a writer, not a coder. And having WordPress push out to LJ and Xanga, which is how most of my friends read my blog (as opposed to random people, who hit my site first) is fantastic. Don't really want to give that up.
I do, and so do a lot of cash-paying gamers out there. Do you really think they'd make the games if people weren't buying them?
The videos for Assassin's Creed blew me away, and it may very well be the first game I've ever pre-ordered (though this is largely due to the fact that I had a gift-certificate to use and nothing else to use it on). It's exceedingly beautiful and the engine astounds me. That's what I'm paying for. The same goes for Gears of War. I bought it because it looked kind of cool; I didn't know how gameplay would be until I played it.
If it is pretty AND has great gameplay, that ensures I'll buy the sequel. But let's be honest: I buy the game up front because it looks cool.
AND, if you're instead referring to the Cisco Secure Services Client, Linux should be able to connect depending on what protocol they're using. What uni are you at, and what protocol is it (LEAP, PEAP, etc.)?
Feel free to contact me outside the limits of this message board. I work at a university in computer services and am one of two (staff) who run Linux on campus, so I know what it's like trying to get things to work in a Windows-centric environment.
That was the primary criticism he received about his data presentation. Everything he said, we already knew. Those who engaged in such trade had, for quite some time, been compiling their own data and making their own graphs. And that was without direct database access.
It was shiny, but it wasn't anything new or exciting (or at least exciting to the right people). Hopefully, his quarterly or annual report will be more beneficial. People had several requests in the forum thread for what they'd like to see him reporting on and taking into account, and since he comes from an "academic background that is driven by criticism," hopefully we'll see some progress.
I switched to Linux at home a few months ago and have been quite pleased. The only downside is that Ventrilo is either a pain to get working or doesn't work at all =( Other than that, I can play everything I had been playing before.
I subscribe to Cedega to help support the cause of gaming on Linux, but Wine is getting so good that it often works better just by itself... just finished a long session of WoW in Cedega, though, and was playing EVE-Online earlier. Haven't touched Oblivion for a while, but it works as well. Same for BF2 and CS:S.
There just aren't that many barriers anymore to switching.
Do you know anyone who does that?
Have you heard of more than, say, 3 or 4?
Extreme cases != majority. I say this from the perspective of a member of a church in the Bible-Belt of the USA, part-time staff for the same church, and having been active in college ministry for several years.
Yeah, there are bad people. There are way more than there should be. But all a person being bad means is that the individual is wrong, or screwed up. Not that everyone else in their group/religion is. Claiming otherwise isn't a whole lot different than racism.
Actually, since Symantec's updates are coming pretty frequently, Norton Antivirus is able to disinfect computers with Storm and keep computers secure. Users just need to know to run their updates.
As for it being a trojan, that's not quite correct. In its original iteration, it did have to be run, but we are receiving more and more emails with code that is executed through the preview pane of Outlook. Depending on how Outlook is set up (which is always to the user's preference, as they tend to do that themselves), they may automatically download attachments, automatically view messages, etc. The main problem for us are the Storm infected PDFs we're receiving, as they're worming into computers without users even opening the attachment. Outlook's just not the most secure by default (though those options can be turned on).
Better education for our users would go a long way, but we can't convince them that they need it and the administration isn't going to make it mandatory to attend computer security courses. So in the end, your tirade is off topic, which you'd be aware of if you did more than read about a virus and actually had to deal with it. Intelligent users will always be able to overcome a virus, no matter what kind it is.
Dell's shipping their laptops with Linux compatible hardware. Chances are your "new low end desktop machine" doesn't fit that bill.
Generally, nVidia works well with Linux and Ubuntu in particular. What chipset do you have?
Also, yeah, they're probably shipping it with one of the free Ubuntu CDs that Canonical hands out by the truckload. Pretty sure Dell's just doing a fairly basic install of Ubuntu.
Honestly, I'm kind of surprised by your experience with Ubuntu. I was really anti-Ubuntu when I tried Edgy Eft (I learned after the fact that everyone thought Edgy sucked, but it was my first experience with Ubuntu) and it dive-bombed on 3 separate computers on me. However, loving Ubuntu's philosophy, I gave it a try on my laptop a few months after Feisty Fawn came out. Super fast, everything worked (wireless required some tweaks, but some nice guy had written a script that required nothing more than running it and clicking a button!), and I had Linux on a laptop with no troubles. Decided to try it at home and my desktop is faster than ever. It boots significantly faster than XP did, it's (of course) more secure, though I already had my XP install pretty locked down, and it's got all the many benefits of Linux. The GUI's fast and intuitive, my fiance figured out on her own how to import photos from our digital camera (simply by plugging it in; it just worked!) and how to navigate to upload them to Facebook, and I play World of Warcraft, Oblivion, and EVE-Online on it without a problem (most of the time >_> ). My experience with Feisty Fawn has been flawless, and I recommend it to everyone now.
Maybe my system's just a bit faster to get over some threshold, but my laptop's 3 years old and nothing to brag about anymore (was a nice gaming laptop when I bought it). I'm guessing you had some hardware issue or, perhaps, were you using Edgy Eft? Feisty Fawn feels lightyears ahead of Edgy.
k3b is the first thing that comes to mind for me, but it's certainly not the only piece of software that comes bundled or, at the least, easily installable on Linux for FREE that does a fantastic job. I can't burn CDs, DVDs, and ISOs on Windows easily or for free (admittedly, the machines we receive at work come with a limited version of Roxio, but it's not great), and I certainly can't mount ISOs (mount ftw) without "acquiring" an app to do the job.
More tools are built into the command line in Linux than Windows is capable of doing through the GUI. More tools come for free in the GUI of Linux than all of Windows can offer without shelling out loads of cash. The first time I can boot someone into Linux and show them all they can do right out of the box, they're hooked. And for me, that has been every time.
I'd guess that someone had already combined a web interface with something like an NFS/AFS share long before S3.
First thing that popped into my head was Webmin. Strip it down to just the FTP functionality and you're close.
Not saying that Webmin = Amazon S3 (which I haven't seen and have no experience with), just that I can't see accessing storage through a web interface as something that is patentable. Reminds me too much of other apps I've seen. I don't see how a patent like this can do anything other than to stifle competition and help ensure a (temporary) monopoly.
I suspect the requirement that one must be a US citizen is because the camp is subsidized by US taxes and due to laziness. Not that laziness is a bad thing; taking care of the paperwork for non-citizens and international students at a state university is a PITA, and for professors who are working for cheap over the summer, there's not a lot of incentive to do all the extra work.
Can you fill me in on what it is? I'm rather out of the loop on current events and politics these days.
I got through to two of my three representatives listed on SaveNetRadio.org. The first in the list had a busy signal, so maybe he's getting flooded with calls *crosses his fingers*
The two offices I did get a hold of stated that the representatives had not taken a stance on the issue yet, but that they would be happy to pass my message along. To be honest, this is the first time I've called. Feels like a meager effort, but at least I did something. Just wish I could do more... like vote on the issue myself.
Conversely, I bought a video iPod specifically for the video functionality. I take telecourses at the college I work at, so I get them on DVD and watch them during lunch or while I'm traveling somewhere (walking or riding the bus). Makes my semesters significantly easier.
It is correct to state that the iPod excels because of how little it does. What it does, it does well. It's simple and straightforward. It does what I want it to, and doesn't do all the junk I don't need. In short, it is efficient, and that is what appeals most to me.
After working with Vista on RC1 and learning it at work for support, then teaching a few intro classes on it, I switched to Linux. Now I've got a number of other people interested in switching because I'm able to continue playing WoW, EVE, Oblivion, et. al. while avoiding Vista and Microsoft's philosophy of DRM. Even have my fiance using Ubuntu now.
I'm not anti-M$--I love my XBox 360, and Office 2007 is all kinds of shiny--I'm just anti-Windows.
I went with OpenSuSE 10.2 at work because it Just Works(TM) with Active Directory and Windows networks. For the environment we have at our university, OpenSuSE just seems to work better. But when I needed to rebuild my laptop (which is only used by my fiance to browse the web, check email, and play World of Warcraft), I decided to put Ubuntu on it. I'm going to get her a laptop in a few months, probably one of the Dell Ubuntu ones, and figured I should start her off now getting used to the OS.
It went so smoothly, I installed Ubuntu over SuSE. It has been very slick, and for the first time ever, it feels like Ubuntu is Just Working for me. It never has before... and the Synaptics Package Manager is so much faster than YaST that I'm completely sold. Feels like Gnome is more efficient on Ubuntu as well.
Consider me consolidated. Novell's agreement with Microsoft (though I didn't read about it until long after the fact) put a sour taste in my mouth. I'm relatively new to Linux, but a big pull for me was to escape M$. I feel a bit more free using Ubuntu.
I've been using OpenSUSE for a few months now--my first concerted foray into Linux besides a Mandriva webserver I set up a couple of years ago to start learning--and really liking it, but the patent-deals I wasn't aware of then are making me uncomfortable now. As frustrating as Ubuntu has been for me (I feel like my hands are tied with it, compared to being more free to do whatever I want in SuSE), I'm seriously considering switching just to be more free. My sense of independence is very important to me, and I don't like the idea of having my PC so tied to Microsoft...
That or I'll go to Fedora Core, since I really like my RPM repositories...
Considering I lost mine, I very well might.
If I vote for someone based on their position and they do not abide by that position (because they lied or got bribed or whatever the case may be), I feel that I have the right to hold them accountable to that.
If I vote for someone other than the person who wins, I still retain my right to voice my opinion and speak out against their policies.