It should read: The United States Supreme Court unanimously confirmed that using this service to trade copyrighted material without the copyright owner's permission is illegal.
Of course, it isn't illegal, but the way these warnings are worded can sometimes make it seem that way.
Leaving out the paragraph between those two lines makes your quoting of my original post way out of context. For more info, see my post further down in this thread. And as an example of a legal download via P2P of a copyrighted work, fire up a Gnutella client if you have one, then search for and download a file called otterwars_0001.wmv (Sorry about it being a Windows Media file. A friend of mine on an action figure forum I frequent took, with my permission, the original ogm file I posted and added the sound effects, then saved it as wmv. I'll be reworking it into a different format eventually though, now that I'm finally getting the hang of AVIDemux and mencoder.)
Anyway, that file is a copyrighted work, which I am making freely distributable via a P2P service. The original point of my previous post was simply to point out the ambiguity in the warning on Grokster's site. They state that distributing copyrighted works via P2P services is illegal. If taken to the extreme, that would also make distributing the above little animation that I created also illegal, since it is copyrighted. And that is all I was trying to get at when I said the warning should be changed slightly to reflect that it is only illegal to trade copyrighted works without the copyright holder's permission.
Are there even authorized peer-to-peer services where I can copy copyrighted motion picture and music files? I thought not.
If I was musically talented, and decided to write and record a song, that song automatically becomes copyrighted as soon as it's created. The way the warning on Grokster is worded, it sounds like it would be illegal for me to then distribute my own works on a P2P service like Gnutella, since those works are copyrighted. That was the point I was trying to get across in my original post about the warning being misleading.
If the owner of a copyrighted work authorizes his or her creations to be distributed via P2P, then that makes whatever P2P sevice it is distributed on authorized for those copyrighted works. Just because someone releases their work via P2P does not mean those works are no longer copyrighted.
The United States Supreme Court unanimously confirmed
that using this service to trade copyrighted material is illegal.
It should read...
The United States Supreme Court unanimously confirmed
that using this service to trade copyrighted material without the copyright owner's permission is illegal.
The way they worded it makes it sound like it is even illegal for people to distribute their own materials that they have created themselves via P2P. So, I guess according to the powers that be, I'm now a criminal for using Gnutella to distribute my own stories and animations that I have created, and to which I own the copyrights.
Of course, it isn't illegal, but the way these warnings are worded can sometimes make it seem that way.
We all know only the Mormons go to heaven.. Everybody else goes to hell.. unless god's armies need beefing up.
I may have posted this here previously, but it's worth a repeat. This episode of The Grim Reaper Show... http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/72146 provides a bit of insight into what people of various beliefs can look forward to.
"The FAA mentions the possibility of incorporating the "no-fly" list of the TSA into security requirements for space travel."
So then, would people in the U.S. who are on the no fly list who really want to be space tourists be able to get around this restriction by simply going to Canada and booking a flight on a ship from there instead? (That is, if any Canadian companies get into this biz.)
This new legislation allows copyright holders to obtain an "ex parte" court order to enter and search private homes without informing the people living in these private homes if the copyright holder can show that it is "probable" that someone living there has infringed on a copyright. There is no requirement that the police be involved in such searches of private homes (first time this has been allowed in my country)
Fuck. Here in the U.S., a search like that without a police presence and without a warrant would probably be considered breaking and entering or home invasion, and would probably result in the intruder getting a couple 9mm pieces of lead implanted in his body.
These companies ASSUME that file sharing is evil...and therefore a proper punishment would be to post free files on those networks. That is completely bogus! Actually, it is great advertising for Sony and their products. It is not a punishment at all...it's an incentive.
And then they could write off each download on their taxes as a $100,000 loss. Isn't that what the max penalty per song downloaded is? Or is it $10,000 per song?
I am reminded of one of the statements in an "Introduction To Quantum Mechanics" course: If anyone says they understand quantum mechanics they are probably lying.
They also need to add a warning... "May cause spontaneous cerebral detonation."
Actually, this term was coined by Nikola Tesla and refered to his observations of the violent sub-molecular reaction created when a cat with a cheese pizza tied to its back is dropped onto expensive carpeting.
I thought it was supposed to be a slice of buttered toast strapped butter-side up to the cat's back; the feline-toast turbine, which operates on the principals of:
1 - A cat always lands on its feet. 2 - A slice of buttered toast, when dropped on an expensive carpet, will always land butter-side down.
My bank just made me click through on an agreement never to use anything but IE or netscape on windows and IE or Safari on Macos to use their online banking services. (I lied - I use firefox on linux most of the time - but if they find out they can stop my access to online banking.)
Ah. So you are a Bank of America customer too, I take it? I encountered the same WTF moment myself a couple weeks back when I logged in on their online banking site. And like you, I went ahead and lied about what I was using to access their site (I also use Linux and Firefox), muttering "What the fuck ever," as I continued on my way. If they ever do cut off my access to online banking over this, I would have no qualms about dropping them after finding another bank that doesn't care what OS and browser you use to access their online banking. And I would let them know exactly why they were losing a customer who has been with them for over 10 years (back when they were SeaFirst Bank in these parts).
A better statement is: "The enemy of my enemy is helping me so long as he causes my enemy to expend resources, which might have been used against my interests, without improving his own position with respect to myself in an amount greater than the gain in strength of my own position with respect to my enemy, although situations such as this do not lend themselves to so simple an analysis, and are often very nonlinear and chaotic in their behavior."
I think an even better statement in this regard would be, "The enemy of my enemy is simply my enemy's enemy; nothing more, nothing less, until proven otherwise."
1: Did you buy your laptop new or used? 2: If you purchased it new, did you get a significant discount for not having Windows preinstalled on it? 3: If you did get a discount for not getting Windows preinstalled, then would you please be so kind as to reveal which vendor you purchased your laptop from?
but if you've ever seen boys play with dolls, they're more likely to play with the Ken doll and race around in the sports car than play with Barbie.
Ah, they would more than likely have GI Joe kick Ken's ass (mounting his head on a plaque for the trophy room), and then get it on with Barbie, at least until an 82nd Airborne GI Jane or a Cy Girl arrives, then Babs would be kicked out on her ass in favor of the more able-bodied gal(s).;)
These mods did nothing but add to the longevity of their games
Isn't longevity something the game publishers, for the most part, do not want? After all, how can they expect to sell you the same thing over again, repackaged with the eye candy changed around a bit, if you are still happily plugging away with the game's previous incarnation a half a year or more later?
The CD Ripping process is mostly an unattended operation, so unless you or your computer are incapable of multitasking, then the time to rip a CD shouldn't even be a factor. For instance, just moments before I started this post, I put my 2112 CD in the drive and fired up KAudioCreator. The prog immediately read the disc and brought up a menu with 2 choices from a CDDB database (Progressive Rock or Heavy Metal). I made my choice, selected OK, and the CD Ripping began automatically.
No need for me to just watch the CD Ripping screen the entire time. While SunBlossom (my primary workstation) is busy ripping the CD, I can go do other stuff, like posting on Slashdot, taking care of my eBay auctions, working on one of my stories, cramming for my upcoming NCO Academy test, etc.
Additionally, who says that one has to rip their entire collection in one sitting? It's not like it's a super top-priority tasking or anything like that. Just do a few whenever you feel like it, and eventually, you will have your collection archived.
Now, I think a more useful service as far as music archiving goes would be recording cassette, vinyl, and 8Track collections to mp3 or ogg. That does take considerably more work than ripping CDs.
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Ah good. 2112 is done. Time to start Fly By Night...
The difference is termininology - Muslim extremists, Christian fundamentalists.. in fact there's little difference - both prepared to kill for their beliefs.
There is a big difference between the two. Although both are prepared to kill for their beliefs, typically only one group is also prepared to die for their beliefs. Of course, they are both still evil. I just wanted to point out that overlooked difference there.;)
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Leaving out the paragraph between those two lines makes your quoting of my original post way out of context. For more info, see my post further down in this thread. And as an example of a legal download via P2P of a copyrighted work, fire up a Gnutella client if you have one, then search for and download a file called otterwars_0001.wmv (Sorry about it being a Windows Media file. A friend of mine on an action figure forum I frequent took, with my permission, the original ogm file I posted and added the sound effects, then saved it as wmv. I'll be reworking it into a different format eventually though, now that I'm finally getting the hang of AVIDemux and mencoder.)
Anyway, that file is a copyrighted work, which I am making freely distributable via a P2P service. The original point of my previous post was simply to point out the ambiguity in the warning on Grokster's site. They state that distributing copyrighted works via P2P services is illegal. If taken to the extreme, that would also make distributing the above little animation that I created also illegal, since it is copyrighted. And that is all I was trying to get at when I said the warning should be changed slightly to reflect that it is only illegal to trade copyrighted works without the copyright holder's permission.
If I was musically talented, and decided to write and record a song, that song automatically becomes copyrighted as soon as it's created. The way the warning on Grokster is worded, it sounds like it would be illegal for me to then distribute my own works on a P2P service like Gnutella, since those works are copyrighted. That was the point I was trying to get across in my original post about the warning being misleading.
If the owner of a copyrighted work authorizes his or her creations to be distributed via P2P, then that makes whatever P2P sevice it is distributed on authorized for those copyrighted works. Just because someone releases their work via P2P does not mean those works are no longer copyrighted.
It should read...
The way they worded it makes it sound like it is even illegal for people to distribute their own materials that they have created themselves via P2P. So, I guess according to the powers that be, I'm now a criminal for using Gnutella to distribute my own stories and animations that I have created, and to which I own the copyrights.
Of course, it isn't illegal, but the way these warnings are worded can sometimes make it seem that way.
I may have posted this here previously, but it's worth a repeat. This episode of The Grim Reaper Show... http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/72146 provides a bit of insight into what people of various beliefs can look forward to.
Okay, perhaps not, but it's still, to quote the Reaper from this later episode... http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/226663, pretty fuckin' hilarious.
Sign me up for that Floating Island of Mandango, please.
So then, would people in the U.S. who are on the no fly list who really want to be space tourists be able to get around this restriction by simply going to Canada and booking a flight on a ship from there instead? (That is, if any Canadian companies get into this biz.)
Fuck. Here in the U.S., a search like that without a police presence and without a warrant would probably be considered breaking and entering or home invasion, and would probably result in the intruder getting a couple 9mm pieces of lead implanted in his body.
And then they could write off each download on their taxes as a $100,000 loss. Isn't that what the max penalty per song downloaded is? Or is it $10,000 per song?
They also need to add a warning... "May cause spontaneous cerebral detonation."
I thought it was supposed to be a slice of buttered toast strapped butter-side up to the cat's back; the feline-toast turbine, which operates on the principals of:
1 - A cat always lands on its feet.
2 - A slice of buttered toast, when dropped on an expensive carpet, will always land butter-side down.
Fullseat rumble would be pretty cool.
Just have lunch at Taco Hell a few hours before playing. Then you will have plenty of fullseat rumble.
Ooooohhhh!!! I'm telling on you. You said the "Fuck" word.
Ah. So you are a Bank of America customer too, I take it? I encountered the same WTF moment myself a couple weeks back when I logged in on their online banking site. And like you, I went ahead and lied about what I was using to access their site (I also use Linux and Firefox), muttering "What the fuck ever," as I continued on my way. If they ever do cut off my access to online banking over this, I would have no qualms about dropping them after finding another bank that doesn't care what OS and browser you use to access their online banking. And I would let them know exactly why they were losing a customer who has been with them for over 10 years (back when they were SeaFirst Bank in these parts).
I think an even better statement in this regard would be, "The enemy of my enemy is simply my enemy's enemy; nothing more, nothing less, until proven otherwise."
Ah, but the big questions are...
1: Did you buy your laptop new or used?
2: If you purchased it new, did you get a significant discount for not having Windows preinstalled on it?
3: If you did get a discount for not getting Windows preinstalled, then would you please be so kind as to reveal which vendor you purchased your laptop from?
Phew! Lay off the beans and boiled cabbage, man. Either that or take a bit of Beano before you eat.
Ah, they would more than likely have GI Joe kick Ken's ass (mounting his head on a plaque for the trophy room), and then get it on with Barbie, at least until an 82nd Airborne GI Jane or a Cy Girl arrives, then Babs would be kicked out on her ass in favor of the more able-bodied gal(s).
(http://systems.figures.com/archives/images/08/37
Isn't longevity something the game publishers, for the most part, do not want? After all, how can they expect to sell you the same thing over again, repackaged with the eye candy changed around a bit, if you are still happily plugging away with the game's previous incarnation a half a year or more later?
The CD Ripping process is mostly an unattended operation, so unless you or your computer are incapable of multitasking, then the time to rip a CD shouldn't even be a factor. For instance, just moments before I started this post, I put my 2112 CD in the drive and fired up KAudioCreator. The prog immediately read the disc and brought up a menu with 2 choices from a CDDB database (Progressive Rock or Heavy Metal). I made my choice, selected OK, and the CD Ripping began automatically.
No need for me to just watch the CD Ripping screen the entire time. While SunBlossom (my primary workstation) is busy ripping the CD, I can go do other stuff, like posting on Slashdot, taking care of my eBay auctions, working on one of my stories, cramming for my upcoming NCO Academy test, etc.
Additionally, who says that one has to rip their entire collection in one sitting? It's not like it's a super top-priority tasking or anything like that. Just do a few whenever you feel like it, and eventually, you will have your collection archived.
Now, I think a more useful service as far as music archiving goes would be recording cassette, vinyl, and 8Track collections to mp3 or ogg. That does take considerably more work than ripping CDs.
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Ah good. 2112 is done. Time to start Fly By Night...
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I'm usually noway@inhell.com. Can't remember any of the phony names and street addresses I've used over the years though.
Hopefully, they will call the next one The Floating Island of Mandango.
http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/72146 for the reference.
There is a big difference between the two. Although both are prepared to kill for their beliefs, typically only one group is also prepared to die for their beliefs. Of course, they are both still evil. I just wanted to point out that overlooked difference there.
Or more importantly...
WWJD for a Klondike Bar?
I thought they already did this years ago...
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/screencams/mscement2.g
Yeah. That's where I first saw it too, as well as the immortal incantation of PLUGH.
That has to be a typo. Considering the nature of this innovation, it would have to be an OpenSBD driver.