I wish to learn from your great pool of knowledge, Barry. You claim I am ignorant, yet I want to learn from you. But you do not teach! 'tis not the way of an educated scholar, my friend.
I can't wait until they come up with a test that can determine the severity of a man's impotency by merely testing a few flakes of penis skin. Indeed, using microbacterials could lead to innovative devices that are cheap and easy to use. A home pregnancy test for men, in a way, except that it tests for the degree of impotency.
Perhaps they should call themselves the "Mythtesters", rather than the "Mythbusters". The process they use does not lend itself to definite conclusions. They merely test the plausibility of such myths. As such, I don't think they should make the claim that they "bust" the myths.
Where do you work? I would imagine it's a job involving technology, where the people tend to have some scientific/technical/engineering background. I would hope that they would see through the bullshit facade that Mythbusters puts up!
Indeed. It saddens me that so many people watch the show, and then consider them to be master scientists. They have succeeded in dumbing down science and engineering enough for the average Phil and Sally to understand. Of course, then your average Phil and Sally understand nothing, yet think they are masters in such fields.
You know somebody is full of shit when they argue that, "Well, Mythbusters couldn't do it so it can't be done!" The complete lack of peer review in their show is sickening.
One cannot properly repeat experiments if one does not have the basic knowledge necessary to comprehend what the experiment is about. It may be the case that the Mythbusters do not have the necessary background to truly understand the experiments they are performing.
Indeed, as far as I know the Mythbusters have very little scientific or engineering background. One was a marine, a pet shop owner, and a Hollywood stunt coordinator, was he not? And I believe that the other was an actor. I would imagine that their other minions were also actors and actresses before coming onto the show. Do they have any real experience and credentials that would suggest they are worthy of critiquing the work of people from MIT?
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Indeed, manners, respect and courtesy are something that many Americans fear. And if they fear such things, then I do not care! I will show respect like a true gentleman does, and they will just have to accept it. Indeed.
Please tell me more about where you lectured, and what topics you lectured on. Indeed, what are your credentials, Barry? From where did you receive your doctorate?
You speak of this place being good for discussion. Indeed, it is, as long as one does not resort to constant ad hominem attacks, much as you have, Barry. So please, for the sake of true debate, please do not resort to ad hominem attacks any longer!
Indeed, you did make some pretty awful ad hominem attacks towards many people here, not just me. That is not a good way to partake in true discussion. You talk about how Slashdot "used to be a handy place to pick up on tech news and occassonally engage in informed debate and pick up on another perspective."[1]. But then you proceed to launch ad hominem attacks. Barry, ad hominem attacks are what ruin true discussion and debate! So please, just stop with the attacks and let's participate in some intellectual discussion.
More ad hominem attacks, I see. Indeed, I wish to discuss this issue further, but first we must set some basic rules of debate. First, we all must refrain from ad hominem attacks. I understand what they are, why they should be avoided, and how to avoid them. So the problem falls squarely on your shoulders at this point. The second rule is that we debate with the truth, and with hard facts. Ad hominem attacks are not facts of any sort, for instance.
As is common courtesy in debates, I shalt let thou argue first.
Like it or not, they do sell UNIX products. And like it or not, they are actually putting some work and money into it. I mean, take this story after all. It's about SCO trying to improve their products by including better support for MySQL. Now, you can throw in all the conspiracy theories that you want, or point out their hypocrisy with regards to using open source software. That doesn't change the fact that they do sell and work on UNIX products. That alone does make them a UNIX vendor.
I'm well aware that they're not the Santa Cruz Operation formed in 1979 by Larry and Doug Michels. Indeed, the original SCO became Tarantella, as most people know.
That said, The SCO Group is no longer Caldera, even if they chose to use "SCO" in their name in a semideceptive manner.
When looking at the long term effects in this situation, you have to remember what the situation actually is. If they don't do this, for instance, then there's a very good chance that an epidemic may arise, and they would not be prepared to deal with it. Even if it doesn't result in mass death, the economy would still be in shambles. And if it does, then the corporate economy will be the last thing on peoples' minds.
So it's pointless to focus so completely on the future economy, especially if that future economy is going to be destroyed or radically changed, as would happen in a pandemic situation. This isn't a situation of helping a few people who got AIDS because they had unprotected anal sex. This is a situation where the lifeblood of the economy itself, the labour, will be devastated. And without a labour force, an economy is nothing.
I think it's time for Slashdot to get a new icon to replace the old Caldera one that is currently being used. The SCO Group isn't Caldera Systems, and hasn't been since 2002. It's time for a news site such as this to get with the times, and to display a more current logo.
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I know exactly who he is, even if I have never played any of his games, Lucas. Much like you most likely (or at least you should) know who Andy Tanenbaum is, even if you haven't used Minix.
I hold no ill will towards you, Barry. I consider you a friend and a colleague. Indeed, I know you are an expert on many matters. And as such I feel you should start your own news site, where you can put your intellectual expertise to work. We all have a lot that we could learn from you, Barry. That is why I wish for you to teach. Not just me, and not just Jebediah. But all of us. Teach us all that you know, Barry.
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I wish to learn from your great pool of knowledge, Barry. You claim I am ignorant, yet I want to learn from you. But you do not teach! 'tis not the way of an educated scholar, my friend.
I can't wait until they come up with a test that can determine the severity of a man's impotency by merely testing a few flakes of penis skin. Indeed, using microbacterials could lead to innovative devices that are cheap and easy to use. A home pregnancy test for men, in a way, except that it tests for the degree of impotency.
Perhaps they should call themselves the "Mythtesters", rather than the "Mythbusters". The process they use does not lend itself to definite conclusions. They merely test the plausibility of such myths. As such, I don't think they should make the claim that they "bust" the myths.
Barry, Barry, Barry. I would not expect those kinds of repeated ad hominem attacks from a seasoned Computer Science lecturer such as yourself.
Where do you work? I would imagine it's a job involving technology, where the people tend to have some scientific/technical/engineering background. I would hope that they would see through the bullshit facade that Mythbusters puts up!
Indeed. It saddens me that so many people watch the show, and then consider them to be master scientists. They have succeeded in dumbing down science and engineering enough for the average Phil and Sally to understand. Of course, then your average Phil and Sally understand nothing, yet think they are masters in such fields.
You know somebody is full of shit when they argue that, "Well, Mythbusters couldn't do it so it can't be done!" The complete lack of peer review in their show is sickening.
One cannot properly repeat experiments if one does not have the basic knowledge necessary to comprehend what the experiment is about. It may be the case that the Mythbusters do not have the necessary background to truly understand the experiments they are performing.
It's not a dupe at all.
The original article is discussing MIT's attempt. This article is discussing Mythbuster's failed attempt.
Same experiment, two different experimenters.
Indeed, as far as I know the Mythbusters have very little scientific or engineering background. One was a marine, a pet shop owner, and a Hollywood stunt coordinator, was he not? And I believe that the other was an actor. I would imagine that their other minions were also actors and actresses before coming onto the show. Do they have any real experience and credentials that would suggest they are worthy of critiquing the work of people from MIT?
Indeed, manners, respect and courtesy are something that many Americans fear. And if they fear such things, then I do not care! I will show respect like a true gentleman does, and they will just have to accept it. Indeed.
Please tell me more about where you lectured, and what topics you lectured on. Indeed, what are your credentials, Barry? From where did you receive your doctorate?
You speak of this place being good for discussion. Indeed, it is, as long as one does not resort to constant ad hominem attacks, much as you have, Barry. So please, for the sake of true debate, please do not resort to ad hominem attacks any longer!
Indeed, you did make some pretty awful ad hominem attacks towards many people here, not just me. That is not a good way to partake in true discussion. You talk about how Slashdot "used to be a handy place to pick up on tech news and occassonally engage in informed debate and pick up on another perspective."[1]. But then you proceed to launch ad hominem attacks. Barry, ad hominem attacks are what ruin true discussion and debate! So please, just stop with the attacks and let's participate in some intellectual discussion.
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Could sperm cells be used instead of fetal stem cells? Or perhaps sperm cells combined with ova outside of the womb?
More ad hominem attacks, I see. Indeed, I wish to discuss this issue further, but first we must set some basic rules of debate. First, we all must refrain from ad hominem attacks. I understand what they are, why they should be avoided, and how to avoid them. So the problem falls squarely on your shoulders at this point. The second rule is that we debate with the truth, and with hard facts. Ad hominem attacks are not facts of any sort, for instance.
As is common courtesy in debates, I shalt let thou argue first.
Like it or not, they do sell UNIX products. And like it or not, they are actually putting some work and money into it. I mean, take this story after all. It's about SCO trying to improve their products by including better support for MySQL. Now, you can throw in all the conspiracy theories that you want, or point out their hypocrisy with regards to using open source software. That doesn't change the fact that they do sell and work on UNIX products. That alone does make them a UNIX vendor.
I'm well aware that they're not the Santa Cruz Operation formed in 1979 by Larry and Doug Michels. Indeed, the original SCO became Tarantella, as most people know.
That said, The SCO Group is no longer Caldera, even if they chose to use "SCO" in their name in a semideceptive manner.
It's good to see that they're doing the right thing, regardless of the financial costs.
When looking at the long term effects in this situation, you have to remember what the situation actually is. If they don't do this, for instance, then there's a very good chance that an epidemic may arise, and they would not be prepared to deal with it. Even if it doesn't result in mass death, the economy would still be in shambles. And if it does, then the corporate economy will be the last thing on peoples' minds.
So it's pointless to focus so completely on the future economy, especially if that future economy is going to be destroyed or radically changed, as would happen in a pandemic situation. This isn't a situation of helping a few people who got AIDS because they had unprotected anal sex. This is a situation where the lifeblood of the economy itself, the labour, will be devastated. And without a labour force, an economy is nothing.
I think it's time for Slashdot to get a new icon to replace the old Caldera one that is currently being used. The SCO Group isn't Caldera Systems, and hasn't been since 2002. It's time for a news site such as this to get with the times, and to display a more current logo.
I know exactly who he is, even if I have never played any of his games, Lucas. Much like you most likely (or at least you should) know who Andy Tanenbaum is, even if you haven't used Minix.
Thanks for your compliments, Lucas.
I hold no ill will towards you, Barry. I consider you a friend and a colleague. Indeed, I know you are an expert on many matters. And as such I feel you should start your own news site, where you can put your intellectual expertise to work. We all have a lot that we could learn from you, Barry. That is why I wish for you to teach. Not just me, and not just Jebediah. But all of us. Teach us all that you know, Barry.
It would appear that your post was naught but a massive ad hominem!
My, my. Still going on with the ad hominem attacks, I do see.
I've never actually played any of his games. I'm just thanking him for taking the time out of his very busy schedule to come talk with us.