Duh, you just outlined the economic rationale. And b)We'd love to ship something bug free, but even as individuals with all of our time at our discretion we would not waste the rest of lives trying to get the bugs out of something as complex as modern software, so NO we won't do it SOMEDAY either. Maybe Skynet will though...
Sorry, by "experienced", I meant "experienced in the real world", i.e. people with 10+ years of non-teaching work. I'm also probably thinking more toward the science & technology fields/subjects. The bureaucracy and politics I refer to are of the excessive, non-constructive sort. I would gladly take a pay cut to be able to have the opportunity to teach -- for the greater satisfaction of doing something more meaningful than coding yet another app that will be gone in 5 years, and for the ability to work in more geographically diverse environments. We don't need people who teach "for the money" any more than we needed dot-com boom programmers who wrote (poor) code "for the money". What's holding back the properly-motivated folks is the fear of stepping into the cess-pool of educationally-irrelevant (beyond basic adminstration) activities that have consumed our schools.
How about hiring some charismatic, experienced teachers who will inspire the kids on a daily basis? And they won't need higher salaries - just a nice bureaucracy and politics-free workplace. I'd love to teach and make a real difference in our future, but the environment is just too toxic.
Exactly. My point was that the Iphone is doing fine despite the fact that many ordinary users (like my wife) bitch about the lack of Flash. Outraged, sometimes yes. Giving up the phone, NO WAY. Personally, I'm a long time Flash hater.
All I know is that my wife (a non-technical, meat and potatoes user) is constantly whining about not being able to get what she wants due to lack of Flash or PDF reader. Yes, I know she can GET a PDF reader, but she doesn't understand what Apps are, let alone how to pick one from a multitude options. She is simply frustrated because the phone is supposed to "surf the web", but it doesn't do it like her desktop machine, and having experienced the portability of the phone, the desktop machine doesn't "do it" for her either.
Indeed, tremendously complicated, and our narrow, short-term approaches to the problem aren't going to produce much more in the next 20 years than they did in the last 20. I'm a true believer in human-level AI, but after watching this field for 30 years and having read the books from the 30 before that, it's apparent that this problem needs a consistent, long-term, multi-discipline effort. Good luck finding anyone to bankroll that.
Yep, OMNI was what I had to buy because the stores in my small town didn't regularly carry Scientific American. Later I got a subscription to Sci-Am, but by then they were starting their downhill slide toward being a Discover clone. Very sad.
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Can such a family hug its children with nuclear arms?
Duh, you just outlined the economic rationale. And b)We'd love to ship something bug free, but even as individuals with all of our time at our discretion we would not waste the rest of lives trying to get the bugs out of something as complex as modern software, so NO we won't do it SOMEDAY either. Maybe Skynet will though...
No, I don't, you presumptuous clod!
Sorry, by "experienced", I meant "experienced in the real world", i.e. people with 10+ years of non-teaching work. I'm also probably thinking more toward the science & technology fields/subjects. The bureaucracy and politics I refer to are of the excessive, non-constructive sort. I would gladly take a pay cut to be able to have the opportunity to teach -- for the greater satisfaction of doing something more meaningful than coding yet another app that will be gone in 5 years, and for the ability to work in more geographically diverse environments. We don't need people who teach "for the money" any more than we needed dot-com boom programmers who wrote (poor) code "for the money". What's holding back the properly-motivated folks is the fear of stepping into the cess-pool of educationally-irrelevant (beyond basic adminstration) activities that have consumed our schools.
How about hiring some charismatic, experienced teachers who will inspire the kids on a daily basis? And they won't need higher salaries - just a nice bureaucracy and politics-free workplace. I'd love to teach and make a real difference in our future, but the environment is just too toxic.
Not worthy of Slashdot? ROFL. You must be have been asleep for the last 10 years.
May I be the first to point (and shake) the finger at the Chinese boogeyman.
Exactly. My point was that the Iphone is doing fine despite the fact that many ordinary users (like my wife) bitch about the lack of Flash. Outraged, sometimes yes. Giving up the phone, NO WAY.
Personally, I'm a long time Flash hater.
All I know is that my wife (a non-technical, meat and potatoes user) is constantly whining about not being able to get what she wants due to lack of Flash or PDF reader. Yes, I know she can GET a PDF reader, but she doesn't understand what Apps are, let alone how to pick one from a multitude options. She is simply frustrated because the phone is supposed to "surf the web", but it doesn't do it like her desktop machine, and having experienced the portability of the phone, the desktop machine doesn't "do it" for her either.
Yes, perish for lack of Flash, just like the Iphone is now.
Indeed, tremendously complicated, and our narrow, short-term approaches to the problem aren't going to produce much more in the next 20 years than they did in the last 20. I'm a true believer in human-level AI, but after watching this field for 30 years and having read the books from the 30 before that, it's apparent that this problem needs a consistent, long-term, multi-discipline effort. Good luck finding anyone to bankroll that.
You know, you'd have that damn movie finished by now if you didn't spend so much time on /.
This doesn't "confirm" anything about Turing's offhanded opinion.
Your first and last sentences I grok, but WTF is up with that middle one?
Sorry, but I really can't be bothered to read past the highlighted words in the first sentence of the summary.
Yeah, I've coded an infinite loop a few times, how come I never made the headlines on Slashdot?
How about maybe it just sounded good?
Foolish kid, cooties really do exist. You'll find out when you get married someday.
I'm guessing it will kill every rabbit and turtle up there.
Yep, OMNI was what I had to buy because the stores in my small town didn't regularly carry Scientific American. Later I got a subscription to Sci-Am, but by then they were starting their downhill slide toward being a Discover clone. Very sad.
I'm guessing you lie in wait along the migratory path between Curves and Baskin-Robbins.
They siphoned the gas out of Dennis Hopper's chopper.
Oh, say, maybe spend some time with the family in front of your own tree? C'mon now, you can still sing Klingon Christmas carols!
Looks like I'll be working alone for quite a while yet.
My initial attitude of "registration is for lusers" cost me the fame and fortune of a super-low UID. Now I'm stuck programming computers for a living.