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Duke Nukem Forever Not Dead? (Yes, This Again)
kaychoro writes "There may be hope for Duke Nukem Forever (again). 'Jon St. John, better known as the voice of Duke Nukem, said some interesting words during a panel discussion at the Music and Games Festival (MAGFest) that took place January 1 – 4 in Alexandria, Virginia, according to Pixel Enemy. Answering a question from the crowd regarding DNF, St. John said: "... let me go ahead and tell you right now that I'm not allowed to talk about Duke Nukem Forever. No, no, don't be disappointed, read between the lines — why am I not allowed to talk about it?"'"
Duke Nukem Forever is FOREVER!
Is that one of those old bands my dad use to listen to?
Alan Wake is the new Duke Nukem surely.... All that's ever been shown are some PC upscaled target renders (of course Microsoft are happy to let their army of clueless fanboys think it's ingame screenshots)
I hope they're planning something good - and something that will actually be released. 3DRealms had plenty of (wasted) chances to release something other than DNF to at least keep some revenue, after all.
I am not devoid of humor.
And I'm all out of gum.
Long live the King baby!
Sorry but that's the only way of expressing it.
Can we just let it die? Please? This is the Tila Tequila of video games, it's the Heidi and Spencer of video games. George Broussard has shown time and time again his incompetence, I've seen him posting on shacknews for the past 10 years, I'm convinced he plays more games than your 'average hardcore gamer' if there is such a thing.
Can we just totally and utterly completely ignore him and 3DRealms pleaaaase?
DIE! Just give it up already. It's not even fun anymore.
Incidentally, which is hardest to kill? DNF or Jack Thompson?
The only thing he sounded like, was "I'd like to tell you all about that shit and how horribly mismanaged that disaster was, but I've been gagged from telling you"
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
This is in YouTube too.
I remember the big deal about Duke Nukem was you got a stripper to show her tits (mind you this was back in the day when you just learned cooties didn't really exist).
Yeah Yeah Yeah its the year of Duke Nukem. Its also the Year of Linux. And I hear the Beatles are getting back together, and Johny Carsons taking over the Tonight show again (That Id pay to see)
That's a good new name. :P
"No, no, don't be disappointed, read between the lines why am I not allowed to talk about it?"
Because you know I have a pipebomb and know where to find you?
If you listen closely, you hear it say: Kiiiiilll meeeeee....
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
It's only been dead because the whole thing was totally mismanaged for the best part of a decade, and those in charge of it got themselves into what can only be described as a mental illness. It's far easier to promise that a game will blow away everything else if you don't deliver it, and given that DN pre-dated games like Quake and an age where 3D games were developing fast I can sort of understand it, if not forgive.
The story, plot and characters of the game are still worth quite a bit. There still isn't anything quite like Duke Nukem even after all the FPS games that came after. The question is, can anyone take those up and create an actual game to some sort of plan?
duke nukem looks to reclame his vaporware prize!
Upon seeing the headline I realized there's a whole generation of /.ers who weren't even around when Duke Nukem became old news.
http://xkcd.com/647/ applies.
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
DNF: A valuable lesson on "Feature Creep"
Duke Nukem Forever - DNF....geddit. I'm convinced it's an in-industry joke or a attempt at longest dev time ever. Already longer than the bomb right.
Every Year around christmas or new years some one says something, or some images or vids are put on you tube. I'm actually really tired of it, I wish they would just put up or shut up already. I agree with what someone said before, Duke was great when I was growing up, partially because you could give cash to a stripper to show her tits, but there have been about a million FPS games since then. This game has been in production for what, over a decade? There is NO WAY that it will live up to the hype that has been said about it. They would need to invent some kind of new gamplay dynamic or something drastic to really make it a great game, and I just don't see it hapening. I can barely do some 3d modeling but I bet I'll make a Left 4 Dead 2 campaign addon with Duke years before DNF comes out, which now that I think about it acutally sounds like a good idea.
Won't this bloody game ever die?!? I feel sorry for the Duke actually, being dragged through this ordeal when he should have been put to rest a long time ago.
The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
[a man puts the body of Duke Nukem on the cart]
Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one.
The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.
Duke Nukem: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: What?
Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
Duke Nukem: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is.
Duke Nukem: I'm not.
The Dead Collector: He isn't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
Duke Nukem: I'm getting better.
Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
Duke Nukem: I don't want to go on the cart.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby.
The Dead Collector: I can't take him.
Duke Nukem: I feel fine.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor.
The Dead Collector: I can't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round?
The Dead Collector: Thursday.
Duke Nukem: I think I'll go for a walk.
Large Man with Dead Body: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?
Duke Nukem: I feel happy. I feel happy.
[the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Duke with his a whack of his club]
Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much.
The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
Large Man with Dead Body: Right.
Speaking of which, Serious Sam HD (the updated version of Serious Sam 1) is on massive sale this weekend only until Monday on Steam! Down to $6.79 from $20! Man, Steam game sales are awesome. I now have more games than I can possibly play because of the recent Steam Holiday Sale which had games at prices where you shouldn't even bother with pirating :P
That being said, the Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition can be gotten from Good Old Games for only $5.99. The nice thing about GOG is that you can download any of the games you purchase from them again anytime (just log in to your account), and these classic games have absolutely no DRM (unlike Steam where Steam has to be running for your games to run).
Also, if you're going to give old Duke3D a spin, don't forget to grab the fan-made Duke Nukem High Resolution Pack which will give you high resolution textures, actual 3D models and a windows-native 3D hardware acceleration!
Cheers!
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"I think the whole world has. Like you said, the main draw of Duke Nukem over similar games was the swearing/stripper angle, and even for today's kids that role was long ago taken by the Internet."
I actually played Duke Nukem 3D recently on Linux using eduke32 and it was still a lot of fun. Back when Duke Nukem was popular some kids may have played it because of the swearing/stripper angle, but I don't know of any adults who played it just because of that. My friends and I enjoyed playing Duke Nukem so much because it contained a lot of humor and it was also one of the first multiplayer games that worked well and in which you could interact with the environment in a more realistic way. The multiplayer mode was great, 8 of us could play Duke Nukem at the same time in the computer lab and when one of us found something he wanted to share he'd just yell "My view!" and we'd all switch to his view. I may be wrong, but I think that Duke Nukem was the first game to feature the ability to switch to another player's view in multiplayer mode.
Is dead and buried, but from time to time try to come out of the grave. It's time to kick ass and chew brains, and seems that around him all is out of brains.
I was born in late 1989, so I am 20 years old now, studying software engineering in college. Duke Nukem came out when I was 2 years old (I just had to check the year from Wikipedia), Duke Nukem II came out when I was four years old. Naturally I have never played either. Duke Nukem 3D came out when I was 7 so I technically could have played that on DOS like I did with Doom and Heretic but never did. Some of my friends did and I think my age category is the border here: Most freshmen probably haven't ever tried Duke Nukems.
The console and handheld versions are a lot newer (some came out in 2000s) but I don't think they count. Getting Duke Nukem to work on handheld is kinda like getting your new calculator to run Doom: I've seen people do it for the humor value and because they love tinkering but nobody really does it because of the game itself.
I would of course play Duke Nukem Forever if it was published - the idea od so old series getting a sequel is just epic in itself - but yeah.
3DRealms is done. Supposedly, Take-Two Interactive now owns rights to Duke Nukem. Maybe they're going to finish this game now. They did invest a couple of million into the game already. They have a fiscal responsibility to try and see it released.
Yes; but over what time period was that money invested? Any money spent on development and marketing (e.g.) ten- or five!- years ago is lost anyway, since they'd probably be much quicker developing from scratch rather than trying to contrive the inclusion of obsolete code and dated graphics which would have to be reworked to the point of being new anyway.
Any pretence otherwise is an accounting/legal trick to avoid having to write off losses and/or to make the companies involved appear better.
Nuken 3D was a ludicrously delayed joke in the early-2000s. Now it's beyond silly, and just strange if anyone's putting money into it- what exactly were they expecting?
It's just a computer game. Why didn't they just get someone to develop something and slap a name on it? The fact that they didn't suggests that this isn't a development issue. I'm not sure what it is.
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It's just a videogame. It's just a REMAKE of a videogame. It's not like they're even going to have a different story arc. Or even much of a story. There'd be more actual narrative material in a remake of a bad Saturday morning cartoon, like, oh, the Herculoids.
(If there's going to be a Herculoids movie, I don't wanna know. La la la la, I can't hear you...)
I thought DNF stood for "Did Not Finish".
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
My leg hurts and I've got a pack of gum. Get off my lawn!
If only they'd get over their dev hell they could finally bank on their work. I'm sure other die-hard fans don't care too much about the graphics. If they are having another crack at it hopefully they can stop thinking that it has to be perfect. If they could just get duke back for a few hours I'll be satisfied with it. I'm sure they have some good duke one-liners after more than a decade.
He's not allowed to talk about it because there is now ongoing litigation between Take2 and 3DRealms over contracts, monetary advances, etc...
Duke Nukem 3D did have a rather interesting engine. As someone else has posted, it did various things other engines at the time couldn't do (eg. mirrors) and was well optimized.
For anyone who's interested about the history of the engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSVzn0F3pyQ
OK, it's got nothing to do with DNF but I found this video recently and felt it was worth sharing. :)
He's pining for the, er, strip bars.
...that will last forever.
not allowed to talk about it as it is going to court and after the long time there it will be time to update it to a new 3d system.
just not for Christmas.
Duke3D is still a lot of fun to play, especially for those of us who had a blast with it at LAN parties.
There are excellent ports and improvements on the sourcecode, like eduke32.
Beyond that, the DOS version runs great under DOSBox, and uses dosbox's built-in IPX system for multiplayer over TCP/IP. That also works crossplatform between Windows and Intel macs.
The other great thing about duke3d was the unique sounds on each level. In multiplayer you hear where people are when they open doors, break mirrors, or trigger a certain area's unique thing, and you know where to go to get 'em. Quake sounds were too generic to do that.
I just have to share this here - if you are a Duke Nukem fan... or really if you are just a fan of 'the funnay' then be sure to visit 3D Realms' Duke Nukem outtakes collection page: http://www.3drealms.com/duke3d/outtakes.html (note, it says realplayer is required by they also have .wav links)
...unfortunately no one can be told what The Mat^H^H^HGoatse is...they must experience it for themselves...
Let me be the first to say...
Noooooooooooooooooo...!!!
You know the expression - "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, then three, four, five, six, seven times...won't get fooled again."
"But this one goes to 11!"
Looking forward to the console port on the PS/5, the Xbox 1080, and the Wii III.
[Insert pithy quote here]
It better be free, as in FREE! After all the stringing along and broken promises we deserve a happy ending.
"Whogivesashit" It's dead. It's not dead. It could be alive. It'll be back shortly. It won't be. *yawn*
Get off my lawn!
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
But when does the Amiga version come out ?
In grade 7 we had to design a resort for a school project. The other kids used paper and models, I used the Duke 3D map editor.
The teacher was so impressed he left the room to go get the principle at which point I grabbed a shotgun and wasted everyone.
(no one asked why the resort staff consisted of mostly strippers)
It was the only school project I ever finished. And the only map I ever finished.
Duke Nukem Forever!
Until I see the game sitting on a shelf in person, it is all just a cruel joke. I'm not going to get hyped up about whatever engine they're using this month, because I still think the Quake 2 engine version looked the best. I hope George Brussard is never given control over another project in development. I personally believe he destroyed this one by switching it to the Unreal engine.
Also, why would I buy Duke3d for the XBOX arcade? I already have the PC version and it is free from m$ shackles. You're going to have to offer us some actual value to get us to pay for the same old game again.
Because there's a pending lawsuit?
Because if does finally get released, most of those who cared will have died from old age.
/. Dissent will not be tolerated. Think like us or perish.
The first rule about DNF is you don't talk about DNF. The second rule about DNF is you do not talk about DNF!
The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
[a man puts the body of Duke Nukem on the cart]
Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one.
The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.
Duke Nukem: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: What?
Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
Duke Nukem: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is.
Duke Nukem: I'm not.
The Dead Collector: He isn't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
Duke Nukem: I'm getting better.
Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
Duke Nukem: I don't want to go on the cart.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby.
The Dead Collector: I can't take him.
Duke Nukem: I feel fine.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor.
The Dead Collector: I can't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round?
The Dead Collector: Thursday.
Duke Nukem: Damn. This conversation is pissing me off!
[Duke pulls out a big gun and blows everyone in sight away.]
Duke Nukem: I feel happy!
NO! Just NO!! When will it end? Just when we think it is finally gone, someone says otherwise. A thousand bee stings would be less annoying then going through the last 10 years, ALL OVER AGAIN! *Gouges eyes out*
Groovy.
It's not dead as long as people keep posting about it. Maybe people should LET IT DIE (emphasis added for emphasis) rather than continuing this ghost's existence. Not doing so is the only reason why this didn't fade away years ago, and it's the only reason why it's still being mentioned. It will never release. This is not your religion. You do not need to believe in this fantasy.
Perhaps I'm irritated more than I ought to be, but really, just let it die already. Please? I shall now go add the word Duke to FeedRinse and leave you good sirs & ma'ams (...?) to what I hope is a good day.
DNF or the sequel to The 11th Hour?
Oh come on. This joke can never die!