"Lets say I downloaded David Gilmour album, did Mr. Gilmour get a cent?"
No. But he has so much money to start with that even assuming an illegal download cost him personally the full retail value of the track he's absolutley nothing.
The downloader on the other hand has gained plesure from the music, so overall a net gain for society.
Microsoft will probably have it so thay 'plays for sure' plays on the Zune, meaning they can steal all their erstwhile allies customers who have a stock of PFS tracks.
The iPod took off because it made portable music attractive and easy for the masses - the UI, the store, the fact it was 'cool'.
What if Microsoft/Zune can do the same with video? Portable and web music is old now, video is the new big thing - music video downloads on iTunes, uTube etc. are huge
It's true that the Zune has a good screen and UI for viewing videos. Others point out Apple can just leapfrog them whenever they want by producing a big screen, nicer looking and handling iPod and that's true.
But this is the first time (I think!) Microsoft have had their own store. Their Playsforsure stuff was just technology for 3rd parties to use. Now MS itself has a store, a website for the Zune and so on and they're pushing it themselves. They're a big deal. Maybe they can make licensing deals Apple can't, or on better terms, or first then lock Apple out.
A couple of what-ifs:
- Microsoft signs a deal to get uTube on the Zune and the deal is exclusive prohibiting Apple doing the same thing.
- Microsoft gets all TV channels and movie studios in their shop. Apple only gets half of them. Do you want Zune with everything or a crippled iPod that you can't even get half your favourite shows on?
Yes! And when this new organisation is set up it should, unlike the older organisations, accurately log the number of plays of each video.
MCPS and PRS in the UK (US equivalents?) collect moneys for plays of music on the radio and in clubs etc. but the split out to artists is proportional, judged from a random sampling (they literally go into a bunch of clubs occasionally and count what is played for example), and almost certainly biased to the larger artists (or rather the larger record labels and publishers that they front).
If the internet equivalents log use properly then smaller 'artists' can actually make money from the cool clips they put up. That's important to erode the dominance a small subset of people have in accessing media.
And soon artists will have to belong to RIAA etc to get any traction on utube at all - prominent placing, preferential search treatment etc. Then we're back to where we started.
It's plausible deniability for Myspace/Newscorp - so they can tell all the other media companies they're doing their best to remove infringing material.
It doesn't have to actually work. In fact it's better for MyCorp if it doesn't work, because then they get to keep using all the copyrigthed stuff that attracts so many users to their site.
I hope someone answers this who knows what they're talking about. Perhaps it would help if as well as the firewall the linux box had a coy of the same P2P app in queston, sharing nothing but public domain works.
Presumably the linux box would be set not to record port allocations and other activity with other machines 'inside' its private network.
- She doesn't say how much the traffic has gone up.
- a whole quarter stayed the same or went down!
- even is her design was _worse_ than what it replaced there'd pobably be an inital jump in traffic as people checked out what was new.
Yeah, the blue links clash, the grammar and spelling is poor, the first 'read' link doesn'twork(!), the layout changes as you move through it so navigation is awkward and it's baically just an ad for her book. Rubbish.
And I just printed out several copies of a photo of Jack Thompson, wet them and scrunched them up and used them to make a scale model of Jack Thompson carrying a "Jack Thompson is Gay LOLZ" banner.
Jack Thompson should watch out because if Jack Thompson finds out about this Jack Thompson is seriously screwed!
That's a great point and an intereting way of looking at things. It follows that IE isn't free (as in money) because you HAVE to buy Windows, of which it is part.
That's less than 1/3mb per photo which is very smallby todays standards. guess NASA are using old tech cos of the time it took the rover to get there, or for reliability.
You have a point. People I know constantly double click things that only require a single click, or fail to tell the difference between the right and left button. People can be dumb.
I always use a Microsoft mouse on Apple machines, it may be the only thing they do much better than Apple!
Performers/writers actually get only a surprisingly small percentage from sales.
It's true of CDs and it's true of downloads.
Taking iTunes as an example, and using figures from this article
(it's from theregister and it realtes to the UK iTunes store in October 2005,
but the figures are still approximately correct now and in other territories): "...the
4.5p performers make out of every 79p iTunes download. That figure, which translates
into a rate of six per cent..."
"...Separately, the Mechanical Copyright Protection
Society (MCPS) and the Performing Rights Society (PRS) both want to up the
writer's royalty to 12 per cent from today's 8.5 per cent rate..."
There are two lots of money because there are two copyrights involved
in any song sale, belonging to the performer and the person who wrote the song
- they may very well be the same person so let's assume they are. Then for
each track downloaded the artist gets roughly 11 pence (4.5p + 8.5% of 79p),
which is roughly 21 cents.
Now what I'd like to see is a service based in Russia or somewhere, charging
say 49 cents per song (as opposed to 99cents on iTunes) and giving 42 cents
of that to the artist, completely cutting out the record label. How could the
RIAA etc. argue for any sort of moral high ground when the 'illegal' service
was actually paying twice as much to artists as the legal one? That'd be one
fun skirmish for the moral high ground.
Good point, and there's another 'hiiden' lie that this list holds, and that is that the two types of 'markets' ar combined at all. It makes it look like pirating movies is as serious as human traffficking! Of course not! The copyright infringements should be on another list entirely, maybe with other minor crimes, like illegal parking or spitting gum on the pavement.
'Wrong' is a metter of opinion, often with some religion-derived prejudice at its heart. So maybe piracy is wrong, and maybe it's right, but it's not clear cut and it's different for different people. Even assuming it's wrong, it's not very wrong is it? What do you reckon, copying 20 CDs is roughly equivalent to parking on double yellow lines/a minor parking violation. Big deal.
"power users can have a multi-button mouse while novice users can have a single button mouse"
What, so a novice couldn't cope with to whole buttons? Apple are dumbing down their entire product range to cater to idiots who can only handlea single mouse button? Hmmmm
"People around the world need to realize that US Citizens and the US Government are two different things." Very true. No one equates Saddham Hussein's action woth the entire population of Iraq. Maybe the world needs a meta-superpower to depose Bush and liberate the American people?
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"Lets say I downloaded David Gilmour album, did Mr. Gilmour get a cent?"
No. But he has so much money to start with that even assuming an illegal download cost him personally the full retail value of the track he's absolutley nothing.
The downloader on the other hand has gained plesure from the music, so overall a net gain for society.
Microsoft will probably have it so thay 'plays for sure' plays on the Zune, meaning they can steal all their erstwhile allies customers who have a stock of PFS tracks.
The iPod took off because it made portable music attractive and easy for the masses - the UI, the store, the fact it was 'cool'.
What if Microsoft/Zune can do the same with video? Portable and web music is old now, video is the new big thing - music video downloads on iTunes, uTube etc. are huge
It's true that the Zune has a good screen and UI for viewing videos. Others point out Apple can just leapfrog them whenever they want by producing a big screen, nicer looking and handling iPod and that's true.
But this is the first time (I think!) Microsoft have had their own store. Their Playsforsure stuff was just technology for 3rd parties to use. Now MS itself has a store, a website for the Zune and so on and they're pushing it themselves. They're a big deal. Maybe they can make licensing deals Apple can't, or on better terms, or first then lock Apple out.
A couple of what-ifs:
- Microsoft signs a deal to get uTube on the Zune and the deal is exclusive prohibiting Apple doing the same thing.
- Microsoft gets all TV channels and movie studios in their shop. Apple only gets half of them. Do you want Zune with everything or a crippled iPod that you can't even get half your favourite shows on?
Yes! And when this new organisation is set up it should, unlike the older organisations, accurately log the number of plays of each video. MCPS and PRS in the UK (US equivalents?) collect moneys for plays of music on the radio and in clubs etc. but the split out to artists is proportional, judged from a random sampling (they literally go into a bunch of clubs occasionally and count what is played for example), and almost certainly biased to the larger artists (or rather the larger record labels and publishers that they front). If the internet equivalents log use properly then smaller 'artists' can actually make money from the cool clips they put up. That's important to erode the dominance a small subset of people have in accessing media.
1) do no evil
2) do_no_evil.redefine();
3) Profit!
And soon artists will have to belong to RIAA etc to get any traction on utube at all - prominent placing, preferential search treatment etc. Then we're back to where we started.
You should probably download/save them using something like videodownloader before they get taken off.
It's plausible deniability for Myspace/Newscorp - so they can tell all the other media companies they're doing their best to remove infringing material.
It doesn't have to actually work. In fact it's better for MyCorp if it doesn't work, because then they get to keep using all the copyrigthed stuff that attracts so many users to their site.
"At different levels, it shows you different images."
Yes, there are lots of very large images there, one for each zoom%. The largest is the most zoomed in.
I hope someone answers this who knows what they're talking about. Perhaps it would help if as well as the firewall the linux box had a coy of the same P2P app in queston, sharing nothing but public domain works. Presumably the linux box would be set not to record port allocations and other activity with other machines 'inside' its private network.
That's not even a very impressive claim:
- She doesn't say how much the traffic has gone up.
- a whole quarter stayed the same or went down!
- even is her design was _worse_ than what it replaced there'd pobably be an inital jump in traffic as people checked out what was new.
Yeah, the blue links clash, the grammar and spelling is poor, the first 'read' link doesn'twork(!), the layout changes as you move through it so navigation is awkward and it's baically just an ad for her book. Rubbish.
And I just printed out several copies of a photo of Jack Thompson, wet them and scrunched them up and used them to make a scale model of Jack Thompson carrying a "Jack Thompson is Gay LOLZ" banner.
Jack Thompson should watch out because if Jack Thompson finds out about this Jack Thompson is seriously screwed!
He said 6 times the revenue, not the profit. He just means the money they get from pnline is 1/6th of what they get from physical sales.
That's a great point and an intereting way of looking at things. It follows that IE isn't free (as in money) because you HAVE to buy Windows, of which it is part.
That's less than 1/3mb per photo which is very smallby todays standards. guess NASA are using old tech cos of the time it took the rover to get there, or for reliability.
You have a point. People I know constantly double click things that only require a single click, or fail to tell the difference between the right and left button. People can be dumb.
I always use a Microsoft mouse on Apple machines, it may be the only thing they do much better than Apple!
Performers/writers actually get only a surprisingly small percentage from sales. It's true of CDs and it's true of downloads.
Taking iTunes as an example, and using figures from this article (it's from theregister and it realtes to the UK iTunes store in October 2005, but the figures are still approximately correct now and in other territories):
"...the 4.5p performers make out of every 79p iTunes download. That figure, which translates into a rate of six per cent..."
"...Separately, the Mechanical Copyright Protection Society (MCPS) and the Performing Rights Society (PRS) both want to up the writer's royalty to 12 per cent from today's 8.5 per cent rate..."
There are two lots of money because there are two copyrights involved in any song sale, belonging to the performer and the person who wrote the song - they may very well be the same person so let's assume they are. Then for each track downloaded the artist gets roughly 11 pence (4.5p + 8.5% of 79p), which is roughly 21 cents.
Now what I'd like to see is a service based in Russia or somewhere, charging say 49 cents per song (as opposed to 99cents on iTunes) and giving 42 cents of that to the artist, completely cutting out the record label. How could the RIAA etc. argue for any sort of moral high ground when the 'illegal' service was actually paying twice as much to artists as the legal one? That'd be one fun skirmish for the moral high ground.
Good point, and there's another 'hiiden' lie that this list holds, and that is that the two types of 'markets' ar combined at all. It makes it look like pirating movies is as serious as human traffficking! Of course not! The copyright infringements should be on another list entirely, maybe with other minor crimes, like illegal parking or spitting gum on the pavement.
'Wrong' is a metter of opinion, often with some religion-derived prejudice at its heart. So maybe piracy is wrong, and maybe it's right, but it's not clear cut and it's different for different people. Even assuming it's wrong, it's not very wrong is it? What do you reckon, copying 20 CDs is roughly equivalent to parking on double yellow lines/a minor parking violation. Big deal.
"power users can have a multi-button mouse while novice users can have a single button mouse"
What, so a novice couldn't cope with to whole buttons? Apple are dumbing down their entire product range to cater to idiots who can only handlea single mouse button? Hmmmm
"People around the world need to realize that US Citizens and the US Government are two different things." Very true. No one equates Saddham Hussein's action woth the entire population of Iraq. Maybe the world needs a meta-superpower to depose Bush and liberate the American people?
Send him a cheque for a dollar. It's probably more than Sony would give him fro a CD sale.
Hacking DRM may not be legal, but it is right.