No wonder someone posted as AC. He is currently rated as Score:0 Troll
The poster makes a valid point. "It is always hype" unless the acceleration killed your family, unless SARS killed your child, unless second hand smoke or asbestos killed your spouse. Once it becomes personal, perspective changes.
When they STILL our shit, what do they make? I know stills are used to produce alcohol and perfume, but our shit sure is not perfume. Maybe they use it to make our beer? Foreigners claim it tastes like ----.;)
Ahhh, If we can't laugh at ourselves, what can we laugh at.
Blame it on Canada, the theme never gets old here.
The issue is much more nuanced than most arguments would indicate.
Unlike most, I live near Canada, worked in Canada and even been to the hospital in Canada. Canadian Hospitals are not as comfy as the ones I go to in the US. They seem more institutional and less customer focused. That being said, they seem just as competent. (life expectancy and infant mortality are much better in Canada than here in the US)
Anyone with real money (and suckers like myself who pay 10 Grand a year) will likely have a better experience in the US system than the government system in Canada. The other 60% would do much better in Canada. No more worries about loosing insurance when they loose a job, or worries about scrounging up insurance money, no more co-pays driving people to the brink.
BTW, us IT workers need to learn from the Canadian Doctors. Imagine if we controlled who could enter the IT field? We also could create artificial shortages and boost our salaries as well.
At a conference on the west coast, an industry insider told me that MS basically gave ASUS XP for free (as part of a deal to FUD Linux). That means that ASUS may be loosing money on this "refund".
Oh, and it also means that ASUS will sell out easily, which makes me interested in ignoring their products.
Hey Idiomatic, who is jumping to conclusions? You would know it was not a guard who was responsible for the actions if you read the originating post and watched the video. It is the UN personnel giving him orders.
You wrote "The culmination of the West's influence in South Africa was apartheid, which I think the indigenous population would have been better off without."
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it could be debated by experts for 100 years and I bet there would still be differing opinions.
It can be argued that the version of slavery (apartheid) they had in SA was better than the life most other Africans had. It just depends if you think freedom is more important than starvation or being murdered.
My Opinion? Apartheid was terrible, but a more gradual lifting of apartheid may have been better. (starting sooner would be better)
Compared to most of Africa, SA is still a bed of Roses, but it is certainly not the safe place it was under apartheid.
Most importantly for us tech types, have you ever tried getting an Internet connection there? It makes the worst places in the US seem cheap and over serviced! When I was there, I think it was $300 a month for broadband.
Because of the hype, I have tried Ubuntu many times and keep going back to Mandriva. I use Ubuntu studio weekly but the polish is not there, and they don't fix bugs quickly. And give up on using KDE with Ubuntu, it is almost like they try to give a bad experience to bring people back to gnome.
With Mandriva I can use any window manager, I even use ICE every once in a while when I want a light weight GUI.
Mandriva is a much better distro for the "Linux newcomer" IMHO. The install is nicer, the configuration ("Drake") tools are nicer. Ubuntu is a larger more community based distro, that is its strength.
I like Ubuntu, but Mandriva is much faster at rooting out bugs in my experience. (I use Ubuntu Studio, and it has been years since I have had a RT kernel that worked. Can you imagine a kernel that will lock any AMD computer if the network is used... welcome to Ubuntu Studio. And they marked that bug "minor". lol )
After my schooling my first job was programming full time for a Lottery. I was there many years and has not caused me any problems, in fact, it is a good niche.
Since then, I have done contracts in other fields, and no one has EVER mentioned "gambling".
People tend to develop areas that they work in(due to specialized market skills), and I work now tend to work in Lotteries, Bank Trading systems and Mortgages. (all rather similar) So you don't have to worry that you will be locked in the Gaming/Lottery field.
Well then you missed the photo where the PCB just ends. It looks like it was a longer board and they just sawed if off. They didn't even remove the stickers that they cut through. Oh ya, the power connectors connect to... nothing. Yep, this is no prototype, it is a fake.
I'm not a BSD user, but I don't see BSD taking a real kicking in these benchmarks. In the majority of the benchmarks, the average user could not discern a speed difference.
Thanks for letting us disregard. Just north of me in Canada where I have done some consulting it gets nice and cold, and -10C is not that cold.
There may be a whole month where they don't get above -10 C, and they get a crapload of snow. Heck, in the Upper Penninsula of MI, there are spots that get yards and yards of snow at temps below -10C.
Example? Herman MI. averages 6 Meters a winter, and gets up to 10 Meters.
BTW, as a Finn you should know this, the U.P. has the greatest concentration of Finn's outsinde of Finland.
See, as I said I am not a real Linux user, So the number of Window managers and desktop environments is irrelevant to me. I just use one at a time.
If I bring up KDE, I use the apps listed... They just work. In KDE I use Opera for web browsing and mail. Why do I need Evolution? When I am using KDE I rarely need to bring up a GNOME app!
When I use GNOME (Ubuntu Studio), I use the Apps they provide.
Even when there are slight differences in appearance, big deal, they didn't stop me from using the MAC, they are not going to stop me from playing with Linux now.
My background is in Windows and to a lesser degree, the Mac, so I do not consider myself a true Linux user. My use of Linux is too "simple", I just navigate around the GUI's, a monkey could do it.
That being said, how exactly do you claim the Mac experience is better? "The Mac GUI is what linux should have been ages ago". Oh yes, because the all the programs on my Mac had the same look and feel! Wait, no they didn't. Even Apple themselves could not keep their act together and stay consistant. In many ways Apple now trails some of the Linux desktop environments for advanced features and design.
The thing I really like about Linux is that it allows me alternatives... there are SO MANY ways to rip a movie, play a movie etc. Yes, sometimes I almost drown in choices... but when I need an alternate way to do something, the choice is there.
Ignore his obvious mistake of comparing a computer to an Operating system. Still, What is he rambling about?
I imagine there are a few developers in most camps that prefer another, maybe they even defect. Big deal.
I don't even count myself a real Linux user, and even I use it more than any other operating system. I think it is ready for the desktop, whether he thinks so or not.
Ubuntu is nice for us non linux people, and Mandriva PowerPack is even nicer. It is just brain dead simple to use and I never touch a command line. My binder of (seemingly) 1000 windows installation CD's and DVD's just sits there, unused!
I kind of miss the days when I felt like a king with my hundreds of nice commercially produced cd's for windows. Then I have to "help" a friend rescue their computer and quickly am reminded how many days it took me to fully set up a system with software and drivers. After that I feel better about all my Linux software being on a single DVD with my crude handwriting on it.
Repositories are the future. Having to go out, find your own programs and updates is what you are used of doing.
Who would ever contemplate a system where the average computer user is expected to find their own updates is beyond me. Then the absurdity of expecting them to vet good executables from malware is difficult for me to understand. The repository creates a trusted source.
The simplicity of the repository and app store are the future. IMO you are taking a strength of many Linux distro's and spinning it as a drawback.
BTW, my Linux box always has the latest version of OpenOffice as well. I don't understand the problem.
Nope, Ubuntu has made the second biggest strides towards user friendliness.
I use Ubuntu Studio, but in _most_ ways Mandriva is by far the most newbie friendly. I expect with the momentum Ubuntu has that it will pass Mandriva in a few years.
Ubuntu gets recommended the most because it has the most mindshare.
If "Stallman draws his twin katanas at the sight of Microsoft Lawyers", then I'd bet Stallman has never drawn them.
Bullies are cowards, thus, MS lawyers stay well away from R. Stallman. They try to undermine him in back room deals, hundereds of miles away. Fighting by proxy, because they don't have the balls to do it themselves.
See, this article _appears_ to be a troll, but, kdawson is actually paid by MS to increase the penetration of Silverlight with the tech crowd. Very tricky.
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No wonder someone posted as AC. He is currently rated as Score:0 Troll
The poster makes a valid point.
"It is always hype" unless the acceleration killed your family, unless SARS killed your child, unless second hand smoke or asbestos killed your spouse. Once it becomes personal, perspective changes.
When they STILL our shit, what do they make? ;)
I know stills are used to produce alcohol and perfume, but our shit sure is not perfume.
Maybe they use it to make our beer? Foreigners claim it tastes like ----.
Ahhh, If we can't laugh at ourselves, what can we laugh at.
Blame it on Canada, the theme never gets old here.
The issue is much more nuanced than most arguments would indicate.
Unlike most, I live near Canada, worked in Canada and even been to the hospital in Canada. Canadian Hospitals are not as comfy as the ones I go to in the US. They seem more institutional and less customer focused. That being said, they seem just as competent. (life expectancy and infant mortality are much better in Canada than here in the US)
Anyone with real money (and suckers like myself who pay 10 Grand a year) will likely have a better experience in the US system than the government system in Canada.
The other 60% would do much better in Canada. No more worries about loosing insurance when they loose a job, or worries about scrounging up insurance money, no more co-pays driving people to the brink.
BTW, us IT workers need to learn from the Canadian Doctors. Imagine if we controlled who could enter the IT field? We also could create artificial shortages and boost our salaries as well.
At a conference on the west coast, an industry insider told me that MS basically gave ASUS XP for free (as part of a deal to FUD Linux). That means that ASUS may be loosing money on this "refund".
Oh, and it also means that ASUS will sell out easily, which makes me interested in ignoring their products.
Hey Idiomatic, who is jumping to conclusions? You would know it was not a guard who was responsible for the actions if you read the originating post and watched the video. It is the UN personnel giving him orders.
But hey, this is /.
You wrote "The culmination of the West's influence in South Africa was apartheid, which I think the indigenous population would have been better off without."
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it could be debated by experts for 100 years and I bet there would still be differing opinions.
It can be argued that the version of slavery (apartheid) they had in SA was better than the life most other Africans had. It just depends if you think freedom is more important than starvation or being murdered.
My Opinion? Apartheid was terrible, but a more gradual lifting of apartheid may have been better. (starting sooner would be better)
Compared to most of Africa, SA is still a bed of Roses, but it is certainly not the safe place it was under apartheid.
Most importantly for us tech types, have you ever tried getting an Internet connection there? It makes the worst places in the US seem cheap and over serviced! When I was there, I think it was $300 a month for broadband.
You ask a good question.
Because of the hype, I have tried Ubuntu many times and keep going back to Mandriva.
I use Ubuntu studio weekly but the polish is not there, and they don't fix bugs quickly.
And give up on using KDE with Ubuntu, it is almost like they try to give a bad experience to bring people back to gnome.
With Mandriva I can use any window manager, I even use ICE every once in a while when I want a light weight GUI.
Mandriva is a much better distro for the "Linux newcomer" IMHO. The install is nicer, the configuration ("Drake") tools are nicer.
Ubuntu is a larger more community based distro, that is its strength.
I like Ubuntu, but Mandriva is much faster at rooting out bugs in my experience. (I use Ubuntu Studio, and it has been years since I have had a RT kernel that worked. Can you imagine a kernel that will lock any AMD computer if the network is used... welcome to Ubuntu Studio. And they marked that bug "minor". lol )
After my schooling my first job was programming full time for a Lottery. I was there many years and has not caused me any problems, in fact, it is a good niche.
Since then, I have done contracts in other fields, and no one has EVER mentioned "gambling".
People tend to develop areas that they work in(due to specialized market skills), and I work now tend to work in Lotteries, Bank Trading systems and Mortgages. (all rather similar) So you don't have to worry that you will be locked in the Gaming/Lottery field.
And you might get better mods if you attacked someone we know. Who the heck is RME? ;)
Well then you missed the photo where the PCB just ends. It looks like it was a longer board and they just sawed if off. They didn't even remove the stickers that they cut through. Oh ya, the power connectors connect to... nothing. Yep, this is no prototype, it is a fake.
I'm not a BSD user, but I don't see BSD taking a real kicking in these benchmarks. In the majority of the benchmarks, the average user could not discern a speed difference.
Thanks for letting us disregard.
Just north of me in Canada where I have done some consulting it gets nice and cold, and -10C is not that cold.
There may be a whole month where they don't get above -10 C, and they get a crapload of snow. Heck, in the Upper Penninsula of MI, there are spots that get yards and yards of snow at temps below -10C.
Example? Herman MI. averages 6 Meters a winter, and gets up to 10 Meters.
BTW, as a Finn you should know this, the U.P. has the greatest concentration of Finn's outsinde of Finland.
See, as I said I am not a real Linux user, So the number of Window managers and desktop environments is irrelevant to me. I just use one at a time.
If I bring up KDE, I use the apps listed... They just work. In KDE I use Opera for web browsing and mail. Why do I need Evolution? When I am using KDE I rarely need to bring up a GNOME app!
When I use GNOME (Ubuntu Studio), I use the Apps they provide.
Even when there are slight differences in appearance, big deal, they didn't stop me from using the MAC, they are not going to stop me from playing with Linux now.
My background is in Windows and to a lesser degree, the Mac, so I do not consider myself a true Linux user. My use of Linux is too "simple", I just navigate around the GUI's, a monkey could do it.
That being said, how exactly do you claim the Mac experience is better?
"The Mac GUI is what linux should have been ages ago". Oh yes, because the all the programs on my Mac had the same look and feel!
Wait, no they didn't. Even Apple themselves could not keep their act together and stay consistant.
In many ways Apple now trails some of the Linux desktop environments for advanced features and design.
The thing I really like about Linux is that it allows me alternatives... there are SO MANY ways to rip a movie, play a movie etc. Yes, sometimes I almost drown in choices... but when I need an alternate way to do something, the choice is there.
Ignore his obvious mistake of comparing a computer to an Operating system.
Still, What is he rambling about?
I imagine there are a few developers in most camps that prefer another, maybe they even defect. Big deal.
I don't even count myself a real Linux user, and even I use it more than any other operating system. I think it is ready for the desktop, whether he thinks so or not.
Ubuntu is nice for us non linux people, and Mandriva PowerPack is even nicer. It is just brain dead simple to use and I never touch a command line.
My binder of (seemingly) 1000 windows installation CD's and DVD's just sits there, unused!
I kind of miss the days when I felt like a king with my hundreds of nice commercially produced cd's for windows. Then I have to "help" a friend rescue their computer and quickly am reminded how many days it took me to fully set up a system with software and drivers. After that I feel better about all my Linux software being on a single DVD with my crude handwriting on it.
Those guys writing Opera have done an amazing job over the years. There is a lot of Opera features now copied into the other browsers.
Another thing I like about Opera, they have been busy innovating, instead of threatening firefox and the others with lawsuits.
On my machines, Opera seems the fastest at most things and takes a LOT less memory.
Repositories are the future. Having to go out, find your own programs and updates is what you are used of doing.
Who would ever contemplate a system where the average computer user is expected to find their own updates is beyond me.
Then the absurdity of expecting them to vet good executables from malware is difficult for me to understand. The repository creates a trusted source.
The simplicity of the repository and app store are the future. IMO you are taking a strength of many Linux distro's and spinning it as a drawback.
BTW, my Linux box always has the latest version of OpenOffice as well. I don't understand the problem.
I think that the proliferation of devices like the Iphone may change the way people think about installing apps.
Soon, kids won't think about installing software themselves, they will want an app store or a repository that looks like one. We can do handle that!
Nope, Ubuntu has made the second biggest strides towards user friendliness.
I use Ubuntu Studio, but in _most_ ways Mandriva is by far the most newbie friendly.
I expect with the momentum Ubuntu has that it will pass Mandriva in a few years.
Ubuntu gets recommended the most because it has the most mindshare.
Intel does not need any fabbing capacity. What they do like is to mess with AMD partners.
Let the games begin.
If "Stallman draws his twin katanas at the sight of Microsoft Lawyers", then I'd bet Stallman has never drawn them.
Bullies are cowards, thus, MS lawyers stay well away from R. Stallman.
They try to undermine him in back room deals, hundereds of miles away. Fighting by proxy, because they don't have the balls to do it themselves.
You raise a good point.
Whether we agree with him or not, Childs was obviously a person of principle, not the jerk some would like to portray him as.
No, it is not hard to say.
I know that a U.S. based bank where I was contracting at the time would have had a meltdown if we had not spent the cash.
Others that I know tell me similar stories. It is maybe too bad we did such a good job, now many think it was all a farce.
See, this article _appears_ to be a troll, but, kdawson is actually paid by MS to increase the penetration of Silverlight with the tech crowd. Very tricky.