I read something like that in a children's sci-fi/fantasy novel (Aliens Ate My Homework by Bruce Coville I believe). The currency of all the aliens who are in some galactic space league or whatever use energy credits, which are currency and energy.
Aside from that, the system works the way it does because everything hangs in balance. I personally think that backing currency is useless in our society; it makes sense in a society where trust is non-existent (post-apocalypse anyone?) So for whatever reason, we no longer feel the need to back numbers up, but if something were to go horribly wrong than I think we would naturally convert to what you are saying, whether it be gasoline, fresh water or salt. But then again, that's bartering. So until recently one could make the argument that until the trust standard was achieved, money was just a way of simplifying bartering of physical matter (ie. gold).
That is the financial value. Art has no practical use either and collectors pay millions for that too, because of perceived worth. Facebook doesn't bring out the worst parts of high school social life, believe me. I know the worst parts of high school social life, and I like Facebook. Facebook is how I communicate with my current friends and keep in touch with my old friends when I am not able to talk to them in person, or when I need to tell a lot of people the same thing very quickly.
That's kind of what I meant when I said real life friends.. I meant people they know in real life, not random people (IE middle school Myspace popularity contests) or internet forums (people you've never met in person).
Facebook is pointless like email, Google, Amazon and Ebay are pointless, as in it has no point unless people use it. People use it, therefore it has a point. But I see where you are coming from, I just disagree with the ends you see.
Your problem is in step 1. 1999 called, they want their business model back. You see, Facebook is worth 15 billion because investors acknowledge that it is. Money _isn't_ real anymore. Everything is based on faith and trust in the handlers of the money, whether it be the bank, the government or the company. There is no backing of silver or gold to money any more, only trust, and Microsoft, a big player, trusts that Facebook is worth 15 billion and that's all that matters. A pointless company that can't back up it's existance is not worth 15 billion to Microsoft. So yeah, your idea might work until the second web bubble bursts and the tons of sites following your plan already will experience the pitfall of ebusiness when there is actually no business after all.
Facebook isn't concerned with you then, just like you aren't concerned with Facebook. Facebook is concerned with the millions of other users who do have a reason to go there.
MySpace and Facebook have always attracted different crowds. At this point many people have both, but there is one that is what they use all the time and one that is pretty much dead. But there isn't evidence that MySpace is dying, it's just that Facebook has taken the spotlight as being the next big thing. People aren't still talking about Google's search engine capabilities like its 1998 but Google as a search engine is doing just fine, and possibly even gaining users still. Google the company is also excelling and whenever something new comes out from Google, it gets press. Right now stuff is coming out about Facebook and they're getting press. Myspace is no doubt going to get some kind of press with the next 2 months at the MOST. But none of these sites are dying, press time or not. There is a Web 2.0 bubble, but it is spurred by sites like Last.fm, Facebook, and Myspace. The first web bubble was fueled by Google, Yahoo, Amazon etc. So when you say the bubble will burst and these sites will be worthless, you are misunderstanding history; the large, popular websites survive the bubble and become staples of the web and the 100s of pointless tag-along sites that try to jump on the wagon at the last minute, have no users and get tons of stupid investors are the ones that go under.
In short, the Web 2.0 bubble will burst and just like the Web 1.0 bubble, all of the tag-along crap will be purged and the big-players will survive for an indefinite amount of time. I don't see companies like Amazon, Ebay and Google going under any time soon (and I mean I can see them lasting for decades, even into the 2100s, at least as companies, much like Sears and other stores have been around since the 1800s). All the big players now, that inspire the addons have just as much potential and when the bubble bursts, their survival will only cement their longterm existance as they continue to evolve and stay in business for years.
Good job showing your ignorance of Facebook. You sound like a fear mongering Parenting magazine from 1997 talking about "chatrooms". How about you do some research and learn that Facebook is designed to assist real life, not define a new one. Facebook friends are usually real life friends and Facebook offers a means of communicating with them that is more versatile than email. Meanwhile, you're posting on Slashdot to people you don't even know...
Nah actually I don't use bittorrent (hands in geekcard).. I am an audiophile when i'm in control but i cant tell when i get stuff my friends.. i was trying to make a point but yeah the bittorrent comparison was dumb in retrospect.. maybe if we're talking mp3s from kazaa circa 02 or something (hopefully that makes more sense.. just pulling it out of my ass as well lol)
I can burn and rip itunes music but quality is arguably lost in many cases. Likewise, if I want a perfect digital conversion I will have to hack away but if I'm content with a low quality bittorrent version then I can just photocopy it
Im not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not:P
Well I tried this out in the gimp with the Whirl and Pinch feature..whirling can be reveresed, his mistake was that he didn't pinch the whirl. When I pinched the whirl I could no longer de-whirl the image by just doing a negative of the original whirl angle.
That would be the worst marketing decision ever, because customer's never see rebates as real money (and for a good reason). They see them as lottery tickets where after 6-8 weeks they might get back a small amount of money. Normally, they don't even send them in because they doubt they'll work, and in this case they wouldn't buy the product because they would see a $1500 phone with a tried and true bullshit $750 rebate that probably won't work. They'll also resent the extra step involved. Oh yeah, and what if you don't want to use AT&T? Then the whole problem is actually not avoided but thrown at the customer much like freshly dropped feces in the form of a $750 "unlock fee". So in the end everything is complicated, the iPhone would sell very few copies, there would be resentment in every review for the overhead cost (because people don't see rebates as real money, and they would see a $750 rebate as ridiculous), and finally people who didn't want to use AT&T would get hit hard and probably would just buy a new phone. In the end, this means nothing would be unlocked anyway, only a moron would pay $1500 to have an iPhone they could use with Verizon or T-Mobile or Sprint.
The mods must be smoking crack.. how is that possibly insightful.
You're post reveals you aren't in the demographic the iPhone is marketed to. It's easy to say "I don't need this" and "I don't do this" but all you are saying is that you are not in the marketing demographic of someone who would buy a smartphone or an iPhone. If you just make calls and text message, then you are in a completely different category of customers. Personally, I think the iPhone is overhyped as well, but even so it's aimed at different user base. The touch screen, the camera, and all that other good stuff IS what makes the iPhone "better" to the consumer who is looking for that sort of thing.
hopefully by that point we'll, you know, have people in space.. and have space ships where choking on coins and getting hurt by paper isn't really an issue. Right now spaceships are like cars that you have to go through Olympic training just to be a passenger of and require repairs all the time, while in use. They also aren't very fast in the scheme of things. Maybe space money will be worthwhile once there are space cities and spaceships are more like regular cars. Like the Jetsons (--joke).
my question is who the hell is going to use this? the small population of russian and american cosmo/astronauts working on government funded space stations? Did I miss something? Are regular citizens in space now? Have we begun building moon and mars bases? What year is this? Can I go into space?
Oh wait no. It's 2007, the only people who can go into space are millionares and billionares who will get a small quick flight way up in the atmosphere and government trained astronauts. Me and Joe Regular over there can't go into space. Nor do we need space money. Because there is nothing to buy in space. And if there is, it's probably sold by beings who won't accept Quids.
I seriously have no idea what the point is of this at all.
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If you have access to the db you could just change the damn picture without going through the web site layer..the whole story is bull
I read something like that in a children's sci-fi/fantasy novel (Aliens Ate My Homework by Bruce Coville I believe). The currency of all the aliens who are in some galactic space league or whatever use energy credits, which are currency and energy.
Aside from that, the system works the way it does because everything hangs in balance. I personally think that backing currency is useless in our society; it makes sense in a society where trust is non-existent (post-apocalypse anyone?) So for whatever reason, we no longer feel the need to back numbers up, but if something were to go horribly wrong than I think we would naturally convert to what you are saying, whether it be gasoline, fresh water or salt. But then again, that's bartering. So until recently one could make the argument that until the trust standard was achieved, money was just a way of simplifying bartering of physical matter (ie. gold).
Please, don't troll when you have no idea what you are talking about. Nice try.
That is the financial value. Art has no practical use either and collectors pay millions for that too, because of perceived worth. Facebook doesn't bring out the worst parts of high school social life, believe me. I know the worst parts of high school social life, and I like Facebook. Facebook is how I communicate with my current friends and keep in touch with my old friends when I am not able to talk to them in person, or when I need to tell a lot of people the same thing very quickly.
That's kind of what I meant when I said real life friends.. I meant people they know in real life, not random people (IE middle school Myspace popularity contests) or internet forums (people you've never met in person).
Facebook is pointless like email, Google, Amazon and Ebay are pointless, as in it has no point unless people use it. People use it, therefore it has a point. But I see where you are coming from, I just disagree with the ends you see.
Your problem is in step 1. 1999 called, they want their business model back. You see, Facebook is worth 15 billion because investors acknowledge that it is. Money _isn't_ real anymore. Everything is based on faith and trust in the handlers of the money, whether it be the bank, the government or the company. There is no backing of silver or gold to money any more, only trust, and Microsoft, a big player, trusts that Facebook is worth 15 billion and that's all that matters. A pointless company that can't back up it's existance is not worth 15 billion to Microsoft. So yeah, your idea might work until the second web bubble bursts and the tons of sites following your plan already will experience the pitfall of ebusiness when there is actually no business after all.
Facebook isn't concerned with you then, just like you aren't concerned with Facebook. Facebook is concerned with the millions of other users who do have a reason to go there.
MySpace and Facebook have always attracted different crowds. At this point many people have both, but there is one that is what they use all the time and one that is pretty much dead. But there isn't evidence that MySpace is dying, it's just that Facebook has taken the spotlight as being the next big thing. People aren't still talking about Google's search engine capabilities like its 1998 but Google as a search engine is doing just fine, and possibly even gaining users still. Google the company is also excelling and whenever something new comes out from Google, it gets press. Right now stuff is coming out about Facebook and they're getting press. Myspace is no doubt going to get some kind of press with the next 2 months at the MOST. But none of these sites are dying, press time or not. There is a Web 2.0 bubble, but it is spurred by sites like Last.fm, Facebook, and Myspace. The first web bubble was fueled by Google, Yahoo, Amazon etc. So when you say the bubble will burst and these sites will be worthless, you are misunderstanding history; the large, popular websites survive the bubble and become staples of the web and the 100s of pointless tag-along sites that try to jump on the wagon at the last minute, have no users and get tons of stupid investors are the ones that go under.
In short, the Web 2.0 bubble will burst and just like the Web 1.0 bubble, all of the tag-along crap will be purged and the big-players will survive for an indefinite amount of time. I don't see companies like Amazon, Ebay and Google going under any time soon (and I mean I can see them lasting for decades, even into the 2100s, at least as companies, much like Sears and other stores have been around since the 1800s). All the big players now, that inspire the addons have just as much potential and when the bubble bursts, their survival will only cement their longterm existance as they continue to evolve and stay in business for years.
Good job showing your ignorance of Facebook. You sound like a fear mongering Parenting magazine from 1997 talking about "chatrooms". How about you do some research and learn that Facebook is designed to assist real life, not define a new one. Facebook friends are usually real life friends and Facebook offers a means of communicating with them that is more versatile than email. Meanwhile, you're posting on Slashdot to people you don't even know...
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Nah actually I don't use bittorrent (hands in geekcard).. I am an audiophile when i'm in control but i cant tell when i get stuff my friends.. i was trying to make a point but yeah the bittorrent comparison was dumb in retrospect.. maybe if we're talking mp3s from kazaa circa 02 or something (hopefully that makes more sense.. just pulling it out of my ass as well lol)
I can burn and rip itunes music but quality is arguably lost in many cases. Likewise, if I want a perfect digital conversion I will have to hack away but if I'm content with a low quality bittorrent version then I can just photocopy it Im not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not :P
he just needs the slashstaff to wear those new tactile feedback gaming jackets and install his chair hurling software trojan
I'm pretty sure if something really big happens (like they all mutate into giant cockroaches), we'll hear about it before the episode airs :P
By hitting the road and getting out of here with your corny ass jokes BOOYA
Because not all of their music is DRM free. I'd assume that now they only sell the + versions of the songs that have the option.
also they can be batch converted to other formats (when the drm is removed)
Well I tried this out in the gimp with the Whirl and Pinch feature..whirling can be reveresed, his mistake was that he didn't pinch the whirl. When I pinched the whirl I could no longer de-whirl the image by just doing a negative of the original whirl angle.
mod parent up, this isn't offtopic
That would be the worst marketing decision ever, because customer's never see rebates as real money (and for a good reason). They see them as lottery tickets where after 6-8 weeks they might get back a small amount of money. Normally, they don't even send them in because they doubt they'll work, and in this case they wouldn't buy the product because they would see a $1500 phone with a tried and true bullshit $750 rebate that probably won't work. They'll also resent the extra step involved. Oh yeah, and what if you don't want to use AT&T? Then the whole problem is actually not avoided but thrown at the customer much like freshly dropped feces in the form of a $750 "unlock fee". So in the end everything is complicated, the iPhone would sell very few copies, there would be resentment in every review for the overhead cost (because people don't see rebates as real money, and they would see a $750 rebate as ridiculous), and finally people who didn't want to use AT&T would get hit hard and probably would just buy a new phone. In the end, this means nothing would be unlocked anyway, only a moron would pay $1500 to have an iPhone they could use with Verizon or T-Mobile or Sprint.
The mods must be smoking crack.. how is that possibly insightful.
You're post reveals you aren't in the demographic the iPhone is marketed to. It's easy to say "I don't need this" and "I don't do this" but all you are saying is that you are not in the marketing demographic of someone who would buy a smartphone or an iPhone. If you just make calls and text message, then you are in a completely different category of customers. Personally, I think the iPhone is overhyped as well, but even so it's aimed at different user base. The touch screen, the camera, and all that other good stuff IS what makes the iPhone "better" to the consumer who is looking for that sort of thing.
hopefully by that point we'll, you know, have people in space.. and have space ships where choking on coins and getting hurt by paper isn't really an issue. Right now spaceships are like cars that you have to go through Olympic training just to be a passenger of and require repairs all the time, while in use. They also aren't very fast in the scheme of things. Maybe space money will be worthwhile once there are space cities and spaceships are more like regular cars. Like the Jetsons (--joke).
my question is who the hell is going to use this? the small population of russian and american cosmo/astronauts working on government funded space stations? Did I miss something? Are regular citizens in space now? Have we begun building moon and mars bases? What year is this? Can I go into space? Oh wait no. It's 2007, the only people who can go into space are millionares and billionares who will get a small quick flight way up in the atmosphere and government trained astronauts. Me and Joe Regular over there can't go into space. Nor do we need space money. Because there is nothing to buy in space. And if there is, it's probably sold by beings who won't accept Quids. I seriously have no idea what the point is of this at all.