Anyone who can fund a good legal team to define what a crime is.
Hate reading a negative review of a movie expected to make money? A negative movie review could be a crime.
Blasphemy? Thats a real crime in a few nations. To protect trade and investment comments on faith is a crime.
Fraternities and the security services hate seeing their once hidden documents been made public. Publication is a crime.
Hate reading about history and facts? Talking about history becomes liable.
Hate been censored? A nation finds comments or publication about censorship criminal.
Governments, political parties, faith groups, cults, NGO's, brands, nations, historians, the security services, authors, celebrities will soon want their own additions to what a crime is.
All with equal standing to have terms and words added, tracked and reported on.
Blasphemy? Cartoons and animations about faith need to be tracked too?
Ag-gag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ?
Governments who don't like dissidents?
Authors?
Negative movie reviews?
Books?
Statues?
History?
Tiananmen square?
Whistleblowers?
Whats next for tracking and sorting for contextual information?
The more services, networks and US brands try to stop free speech, the more users around the world will seek better services that always support free speech.
A big US brand that stops free speech will still be used to pay taxes and find gov services.
All the fun and creativity will move to sites and networks that still support freedom of speech and freedom after speech.
The more SJW ban content and report users on their own sites, the more real content moves to better brands.
All the big SJW brands will be left with is:
Ads
Big government and political party approved content.
Always positive reviews of very average movies.
A selection of SJW approved books and authors.
No cartoons or animations about faith. No blasphemy.
Boring sites approved by SJW and governments do not keep users.
People like the internet been open and free, not as an extension of US party political policy.
The more a US brand bans content, the more users will want to see and read what is been banned.
Censorship always fails.
Freedom of speech and freedom after speech always wins. Communist nations tried censorship for decades and people still just wanted freedom.
Re Capability based security could render all this stuff moot.
Other nations just use decades of well placed human spies in and around all mil sites.
Their computer is a fancy wrist watch to keep appointments with overworked US cyber staff who need a new friend to talk to.
Hours of talk about their long stressful day doing covert cyber warfare.
A new understanding best friend who always listens.
The more new workers get rushed into new ranks the more new spies get to join up. Decades later they have moved up in rank or are contractors selling services back to the US mil.
New faces around any base who are so friendly.
Getting on the office tour medal list is hard work.
The stress of a second shift and the air conditioning fails.
A medal for been able to drive to work and plan to arrive at work on time for every mission over a year.
Keeping the uniform presentable well into the second shift.
Unexpected use of public transport to get to work and still arrived on time for the mission.
Fixed the printer under stressful conditions.
Was able to adapt to all the older office equipment and showed leadership in working all the office equipment.
Got the floppy drive replaced.
Worked well with contractors and the military of other nations. Hearts and minds.
Learned how to use the photocopier and suffered from its harsh bright light. Kept the photocopier working for days so others could get mission critical documents.
In the past it would have been a floppy disk that failed before a big convention.
The tech story would have been about how the complex code was recreated in the hotel room the night before and was then ready the next day.
Now we get lost luggage stories.
When the costs of rare earth changes again?
When rare earth gets export controls for some reason?
Other battery chemistry gives the world the ability to escape set prices and political export controls imposed by a few producers.
The bans protect a lot of established interests.
Its like a red flag been walked in front of a car. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
A drone could allow citizen bloggers and reporters to:
Report on mil
Report on political events.
Infrastructure spending
Use of land (ag gag) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
In the past a helicopter costs and closed airspace could avoid all that.
Too many interesting things to see going up and looking around from public land.
The US is tracking structuring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Any strange pattern of any amount can start an investigation.
Banks do more with currency transaction reporting, suspicious activity reporting, monetary instrument logs. Lots changed with the Bank Secrecy Act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Lots of small amounts doing things are now just as interesting as the $10000 plus movement of funds was in the past.
Re: "Fortunately for ordinary citizens, they don't seem well enough organized to use it effectively for large scale political repression."
The idea for now is just enough time to get the mil to a van, truck, car or bus in time.
A new look Mobile Support Unit directed by voice prints, cell use, wifi and driver facial recognition.
Collect it all with local results.
How can we find a balance?
Most nations looked at the UK and its CCTV ideas around the early 1990's.
The Irish problem was getting interesting.
Interesting people who had spent decades in the UK had no accents. No looking for new jobs or needing a new home in the UK. No very easy to report direct links to Ireland when renting or buying a home.
Their jobs and paperwork was a good as any other person in any city area going back a generation or more.
To counter such interesting people the UK had to surround its city areas with CCTV.
Every van and truck, drivers face got counted in, tracked and looked up in a database.
Other nations saw this as been expensive at the time but understood the thinking.
Now every face, passengers face, rfid, cell phone, wifi, voice print gets the same database collection.
The truck or van matched the driver and their occupation. Got a passenger? Is that new? Who are they?
A rented van/truck with a face that has not been seen in a truck/van before? Thats much more interesting.
The police and mil have something to work on in real time:)
Re "Something as simple as your car being dirty and then cleaning it would fool such a system until it read your plate again"
The few cars that failed reading both front, back plates and driver facial recognition?
New RFID registration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ?
The UK spent so much of its budget on computers, maths and science education over the last decades.
Only to consider a ban using some of the network skills?
Some of the very best AV and malware security researchers seem to still be doing ok in other nations?
If the UK wants to only allow the gov and mil to do internet research?
People with a good UK university education that the UK gov no longer wants or supports?
Find a nation that still respects academic research.
Lots of other nations would be happy to have UK experts work with them and sell better AV products.
If the UK wants to make network research illegal, find a nation that fully supports science and that respects academic publication.
Could be to protect the new GCHQ methods?
The days of passive nation wide collect it all is over.
The security services will be moving down networks and into networks at a user level.
What happened when AV or malware detection starts getting too smart at reporting back about all detected network issues in real time?
Suddenly the security services need a unique ip rage for all the interesting people they are trying to watch?
Re-identification done with enough funding and skill might show contractors for the security services all appearing from the same staging servers.
Ban re-identification and the security services can still use existing methods.
No need to worry about real time AV efforts or security researches if they can only look at code litter rather than uncover entire malware pushing networks.
Thanks for Canvasback Futurepower, have to use that one:)
This is what makes FF much better that other browsers. Control back to the user not some brand that sells ads.
Re "Is it just me or is this complete insanity?"
It will be a good test of the Swiss bunker idea.
Lots of 1950's shell fire from hidden bunkers. Ammo arrives, keep firing from the bunker.
No electronic networks to track as the range of fire has been set for decades. Just lots of bunkers for the US to find.
The US will have to roll out a system that keeps SK safe and can go deep into every bunker.
The real win is nice supply and restocking contract for most of Asia. Lots of buying and contractors selling new systems.
The SJWs might not like the topics or the reality of the reporting but the staff do exist and work hard.
People working for online news organizations keep tracking the news over different time zones.
Their staff get then get real news out. They have information flowing from within the US gov, mil and the US political elite.
Whistleblowers, investigative reporters who have decades of experiences in the DC area.
Its not bots creating news.
Staff are awake and working hard in the real world.
News posted has authors. Some are in house and have been writing about real world issues for years.
Go back the web sites and read the news going back years.
Real people, real news, years of reports and interviews.
Its for Seafair. All the interesting people will be looking up.
The US will be looking down into any electronic devices they have powered on all the time.
As a big flying Dirtbox collecting it all with all the new ELINT upgrades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Any visiting dignitary and their entourage is going to have all their electronic devices collected on.
Any protesters with working cell phones, wireless are going to be collected on.
All voice prints are going to be collected on and a nice updated database created. Faces connected to cell phones use, to voiceprints that the USA can trust it collected.
All interesting people in that part of the USA are going to be collected on.
Anyone 4 hops from US mil/gov/clandestine/political staff in the area are going to be collected on.
The US mil/gov fears meetings between visiting nations and their own US gov/staff/elite.
Two people stopping to meet in a cafe or park bench? One is US mil/gov cell phone detected? Extra collection time.
Extra software upgrades pushed out for interesting people and any of their electronics.
Re " and the foreign equivalents are not the only ones that thought of this obvious source"
The foreign equivalents don't watch the internet like the NSA and GCHQ do.
The net belongs to the NSA, so other nations don't waste funds on low return internet things.
Some of the cool things other nations did or learned from just went back to simple human spying.
France had all its diplomatic codes broken by the USA and UK in the 1950's. It took France a while to learn from that decade long communications mistake.
China learned of the importance of Little Sai Wan in Hong Kong and just sent human spies in. The UK was using translators it could not trust trying to keep up with the amount of collection into the 1960's. China just used well placed human spies to collect on the secret UK collect it all policy.
The UK collected from Cyprus. The UK base staff had long hours and very low pay. Soviet spies just to wait in the local bars and make a lot of new friends with stories to share.
Foreign equivalents spy on their own nations but have learned to be much more careful around the world using well supported human spies.
Really smart nations have worked around that US/UK global collection system many decades ago. Collect it all is great for contractor overtime and seeing the world.
Collect it all works wonders if the enemy never knows about it. The easy Enigma days are over.
What can be learned from Windows networks left wide open in other nations? The emery left a bait computer online and waits to see who comes looking?
Tech support or a charity over story? NGO? Who wants access to that building and network once its found?
The UK and USA have to watch every interesting computer network globally. The enemy just has to bait a few networks in their own select buildings with gems of unencrypted information.
Slashdot Mirror
Anyone who can fund a good legal team to define what a crime is.
Hate reading a negative review of a movie expected to make money? A negative movie review could be a crime.
Blasphemy? Thats a real crime in a few nations. To protect trade and investment comments on faith is a crime.
Fraternities and the security services hate seeing their once hidden documents been made public. Publication is a crime.
Hate reading about history and facts? Talking about history becomes liable.
Hate been censored? A nation finds comments or publication about censorship criminal.
Re "We've moving to the next stage of thought crimes"
Start moving the Overton window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Precrime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Then thoughtcrime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....
Governments, political parties, faith groups, cults, NGO's, brands, nations, historians, the security services, authors, celebrities will soon want their own additions to what a crime is.
All with equal standing to have terms and words added, tracked and reported on.
Blasphemy? Cartoons and animations about faith need to be tracked too?
Ag-gag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ?
Governments who don't like dissidents?
Authors?
Negative movie reviews?
Books?
Statues?
History?
Tiananmen square?
Whistleblowers?
Whats next for tracking and sorting for contextual information?
The more services, networks and US brands try to stop free speech, the more users around the world will seek better services that always support free speech.
A big US brand that stops free speech will still be used to pay taxes and find gov services.
All the fun and creativity will move to sites and networks that still support freedom of speech and freedom after speech.
The more SJW ban content and report users on their own sites, the more real content moves to better brands.
All the big SJW brands will be left with is:
Ads
Big government and political party approved content.
Always positive reviews of very average movies.
A selection of SJW approved books and authors.
No cartoons or animations about faith. No blasphemy.
Boring sites approved by SJW and governments do not keep users.
People like the internet been open and free, not as an extension of US party political policy.
The more a US brand bans content, the more users will want to see and read what is been banned.
Censorship always fails.
Freedom of speech and freedom after speech always wins. Communist nations tried censorship for decades and people still just wanted freedom.
Re Capability based security could render all this stuff moot.
Other nations just use decades of well placed human spies in and around all mil sites.
Their computer is a fancy wrist watch to keep appointments with overworked US cyber staff who need a new friend to talk to.
Hours of talk about their long stressful day doing covert cyber warfare.
A new understanding best friend who always listens.
The more new workers get rushed into new ranks the more new spies get to join up. Decades later they have moved up in rank or are contractors selling services back to the US mil.
New faces around any base who are so friendly.
Getting on the office tour medal list is hard work.
The stress of a second shift and the air conditioning fails.
A medal for been able to drive to work and plan to arrive at work on time for every mission over a year.
Keeping the uniform presentable well into the second shift.
Unexpected use of public transport to get to work and still arrived on time for the mission.
Fixed the printer under stressful conditions.
Was able to adapt to all the older office equipment and showed leadership in working all the office equipment.
Got the floppy drive replaced.
Worked well with contractors and the military of other nations. Hearts and minds.
Learned how to use the photocopier and suffered from its harsh bright light. Kept the photocopier working for days so others could get mission critical documents.
In the past it would have been a floppy disk that failed before a big convention.
The tech story would have been about how the complex code was recreated in the hotel room the night before and was then ready the next day.
Now we get lost luggage stories.
When the costs of rare earth changes again?
When rare earth gets export controls for some reason?
Other battery chemistry gives the world the ability to escape set prices and political export controls imposed by a few producers.
The bans protect a lot of established interests.
Its like a red flag been walked in front of a car. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
A drone could allow citizen bloggers and reporters to:
Report on mil
Report on political events.
Infrastructure spending
Use of land (ag gag) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
In the past a helicopter costs and closed airspace could avoid all that.
Too many interesting things to see going up and looking around from public land.
Fresh ways of making a profit.
The US is tracking structuring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Any strange pattern of any amount can start an investigation.
Banks do more with currency transaction reporting, suspicious activity reporting, monetary instrument logs. Lots changed with the Bank Secrecy Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Lots of small amounts doing things are now just as interesting as the $10000 plus movement of funds was in the past.
Re: "Fortunately for ordinary citizens, they don't seem well enough organized to use it effectively for large scale political repression."
The idea for now is just enough time to get the mil to a van, truck, car or bus in time.
A new look Mobile Support Unit directed by voice prints, cell use, wifi and driver facial recognition.
Collect it all with local results.
How can we find a balance? :)
Most nations looked at the UK and its CCTV ideas around the early 1990's.
The Irish problem was getting interesting.
Interesting people who had spent decades in the UK had no accents. No looking for new jobs or needing a new home in the UK. No very easy to report direct links to Ireland when renting or buying a home.
Their jobs and paperwork was a good as any other person in any city area going back a generation or more.
To counter such interesting people the UK had to surround its city areas with CCTV.
Every van and truck, drivers face got counted in, tracked and looked up in a database.
Other nations saw this as been expensive at the time but understood the thinking.
Now every face, passengers face, rfid, cell phone, wifi, voice print gets the same database collection.
The truck or van matched the driver and their occupation. Got a passenger? Is that new? Who are they?
A rented van/truck with a face that has not been seen in a truck/van before? Thats much more interesting.
The police and mil have something to work on in real time
Re "Something as simple as your car being dirty and then cleaning it would fool such a system until it read your plate again"
The few cars that failed reading both front, back plates and driver facial recognition?
New RFID registration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ?
The UK will face a brain drain again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The UK spent so much of its budget on computers, maths and science education over the last decades.
Only to consider a ban using some of the network skills?
Some of the very best AV and malware security researchers seem to still be doing ok in other nations?
If the UK wants to only allow the gov and mil to do internet research?
People with a good UK university education that the UK gov no longer wants or supports?
Find a nation that still respects academic research.
Lots of other nations would be happy to have UK experts work with them and sell better AV products.
If the UK wants to make network research illegal, find a nation that fully supports science and that respects academic publication.
Could be to protect the new GCHQ methods?
The days of passive nation wide collect it all is over.
The security services will be moving down networks and into networks at a user level.
What happened when AV or malware detection starts getting too smart at reporting back about all detected network issues in real time?
Suddenly the security services need a unique ip rage for all the interesting people they are trying to watch?
Re-identification done with enough funding and skill might show contractors for the security services all appearing from the same staging servers.
Ban re-identification and the security services can still use existing methods.
No need to worry about real time AV efforts or security researches if they can only look at code litter rather than uncover entire malware pushing networks.
Thanks for Canvasback Futurepower, have to use that one :)
This is what makes FF much better that other browsers. Control back to the user not some brand that sells ads.
But everything important has https in 2017 right?
How much would anyone really be able to see that still has a much value as the http years?
Re "Is it just me or is this complete insanity?"
It will be a good test of the Swiss bunker idea.
Lots of 1950's shell fire from hidden bunkers. Ammo arrives, keep firing from the bunker.
No electronic networks to track as the range of fire has been set for decades. Just lots of bunkers for the US to find.
The US will have to roll out a system that keeps SK safe and can go deep into every bunker.
The real win is nice supply and restocking contract for most of Asia. Lots of buying and contractors selling new systems.
The SJWs might not like the topics or the reality of the reporting but the staff do exist and work hard.
People working for online news organizations keep tracking the news over different time zones.
Their staff get then get real news out. They have information flowing from within the US gov, mil and the US political elite.
Whistleblowers, investigative reporters who have decades of experiences in the DC area.
Its not bots creating news.
Staff are awake and working hard in the real world.
News posted has authors. Some are in house and have been writing about real world issues for years.
Go back the web sites and read the news going back years.
Real people, real news, years of reports and interviews.
Its for Seafair. All the interesting people will be looking up.
The US will be looking down into any electronic devices they have powered on all the time.
As a big flying Dirtbox collecting it all with all the new ELINT upgrades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Any visiting dignitary and their entourage is going to have all their electronic devices collected on.
Any protesters with working cell phones, wireless are going to be collected on.
All voice prints are going to be collected on and a nice updated database created. Faces connected to cell phones use, to voiceprints that the USA can trust it collected.
All interesting people in that part of the USA are going to be collected on.
Anyone 4 hops from US mil/gov/clandestine/political staff in the area are going to be collected on.
The US mil/gov fears meetings between visiting nations and their own US gov/staff/elite.
Two people stopping to meet in a cafe or park bench? One is US mil/gov cell phone detected? Extra collection time.
Extra software upgrades pushed out for interesting people and any of their electronics.
Re " and the foreign equivalents are not the only ones that thought of this obvious source"
The foreign equivalents don't watch the internet like the NSA and GCHQ do.
The net belongs to the NSA, so other nations don't waste funds on low return internet things.
Some of the cool things other nations did or learned from just went back to simple human spying.
France had all its diplomatic codes broken by the USA and UK in the 1950's. It took France a while to learn from that decade long communications mistake.
China learned of the importance of Little Sai Wan in Hong Kong and just sent human spies in. The UK was using translators it could not trust trying to keep up with the amount of collection into the 1960's. China just used well placed human spies to collect on the secret UK collect it all policy.
The UK collected from Cyprus. The UK base staff had long hours and very low pay. Soviet spies just to wait in the local bars and make a lot of new friends with stories to share.
Foreign equivalents spy on their own nations but have learned to be much more careful around the world using well supported human spies.
Really smart nations have worked around that US/UK global collection system many decades ago. Collect it all is great for contractor overtime and seeing the world.
Collect it all works wonders if the enemy never knows about it. The easy Enigma days are over.
What can be learned from Windows networks left wide open in other nations? The emery left a bait computer online and waits to see who comes looking?
Tech support or a charity over story? NGO? Who wants access to that building and network once its found?
The UK and USA have to watch every interesting computer network globally. The enemy just has to bait a few networks in their own select buildings with gems of unencrypted information.