The UK considered the legal question of domestic calls in the 1960's when collecting on the Intelsat commercial satellites. It was cheaper just to collect everything and then sort for numbers later.
The ability to select calls, phone numbers and new calls to phone numbers been watched did not work.
The duplication of an entire network was cheaper.
The legality of US domestic collection can be found in the 1930-70's.
Self-auditing is done only to ensure every call is been collected domestically and that the contractor is really collecting everything as expected.
Self-auditing also has security issues in the US gov. Why is everything interesting kept in plain text on open networks in the USA?
So other agencies can search results without creating errors in some auditing systems. Sorting and indexing can keep pace with data searches by all other mil/gov staff.
Say someone with clearance was searching for the build up of a Tet Offensive and could warn the US mil of such an event due to all the information they could search?
Having such work slowed down by constant self-auditing would make US "collect it all" global material less useful as all the staff would be filling in requests to search data. Or telling other staff what they search for and why.
The US liked to allow its cleared staff to search and write reports given clearances based on a feeling of trust and initiative.
Searching bait projects or a persons own name was always tracked.
Any consideration of auditing was done decades ago.
Go back to the domestic original of some of the domestic collection in the USA.
Anti Vietnam war people had their photo taken and any and all phone, car details got collected.
Been in a location is all that is needed to start domestic collection. Once that car is found, phone numbers and friends of friends of friends start to be collected on.
Everyone within 4 hops of anyone in the USA detected with any international connection.
A friend of a friend of a friend knows a person in the USA who networked outside the USA?
The Secret Life of Machines, from the UK, looks at the inner workings and history of household and office machinery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The series covers topics like: The Vacuum Cleaner, Television Set, Internal Combustion Engine, Quartz Watch, Telephone, Word Processor, Photocopier.
It depends on the site. Tell the workers some nice fiction. Enter a remote site building at night with a door held open by a shift change, ask a cleaner for access due to a lost ID card once trusted in the "secure" building. Use the elevator to get to a floor thats "locked" to most people.
The network might be the same as in the very, always secure main building in a city, state or nation.
The network could be very secure but some on site hardware in an office on the same network could be trusted due to all the advanced physical building security.
The building is secure at the front street, the elevator is locked per floor, the office door is locked.
The slower led network might just get crypto out over time to be collected later again in person.
The well protected network was never altered. Nothing new was logged. The needed data is collected in person. A CCTV review shows a person wondering around talking to people in a secure area. Nobody called security so that person was allowed to be in the area as they passed the front door security..
Re 'had e-mail contact with the..."
The NSA tracks all contact with the media.
The Most Intriguing Spy Stories From 166 Internal NSA Reports (May 17 2016) https://theintercept.com/2016/...
"...press items daily for “cryptologic insecurities” and maintained a database called FIRSTFRUIT with “over 5,000 insecurity-related records” ranging from “espionage damage assessments” to “liaison exchanges.”"
Yes AC every US, UK and Russian photocopier in a secure building now records the face of the person and the document they copied. Paper use is counted too.
The days of walking out of a secure vault, making as many photocopies in the same building as could be carried in a briefcase per day should have ended in the 1970's given spying issues in the UK.
Page 12 of the linked pdf shows what could happen under the "Version of Microsoft Windows 10" part.
Page 2 has the Executive Summary.
The problem is not that any MS product is "safe", its that a US gov product in the wild could be used in creative ways.
How many believed the many stories that some of the older bands had really powerful protection that always worked and that was beyond the funding any city, state or federal contractor could work with per case?
It was like Enigma, quick, easy and connected.
The face database is also interesting https://www.muckrock.com/news/...
".... larger database of between one million, twenty million, or potentially a billion faces to instantly identify in the field"
Blasphemy laws in the USA?
A person created or commented on a cartoon about the history of a faith?
Upset a Communist party or commented on a Communist official or the official history of the Communist party?
Comments on the politics of accepting and supporting illegal immigration?
An anti war protester gets reported by a gov/mil/contractor?
Read the wrong book about faith, politics, law and comment or write a review online
Talk too much about a union or workers rights?
Animal activist monitoring?
Comment on environmental issues in the past?
Food quality issues?
Issues surrounding mining, water quality?
Every powerful lobby group will soon create lists of comments and speech they have issues with.
Join, create or comment on a political party? No more freedom of association?
The ability to petition the Government for a redress of grievances online or comment on policy, history, politics in public is chilling.
Have an interest in cryptography and comment on computers, big US brands and their junk products? Note a brands deep links and long past with the security services?
SJW, lobby groups, brands, mil, gov, contractors, political group, other nations, foundations, donors, charity groups, public/private partnerships will have their special "lists" to submit.
Thats why the USA has freedom of speech and freedom after speech.
People who need 10-bit / channel can afford to buy a real computer, real software and ensure color works from capture to edit to sale/release.
They need a real CPU, a real OS, lots of ram, fast storage and a supported display. The software has to work with the 10-bit / channel and so does other hardware.
The new Apple products are good for consuming really nice looking video work not made on Apple computers.
Smart people need hardware and software that supports everything their capture, software, color.
Soviet "military intelligence" who normally did military spying tried to run a spy in the UK in the 1970's due to an accident of first contact.
It ended in failure as the Soviet staff did not have the decades of skill to work long term with a person in the UK and all the emotional issues that result.
The write up of Russia/the Soviet Union ever using "military intelligence" in the West for activity seems more of an older US fantasy than reality.
Russia knows what its "military intelligence" can do and should not do. It learned that by losing one of its more productive spies in the UK in the 1970's.
Losing a good spy does not get "military intelligence" a lot of other direct attempts at spying again.
Why would the US be talking about one of the one groups in Russia that would not be used for spying in the West?
Every other spy agency in the world would notice that glaring mistake too and be wondering why the most simple lack of understanding of Russian's intelligence structure would be allowed to be presented as "news"?
The report does not "show the underlying “raw” intelligence on which the analysis is based".
"cautioned against drawing too big a conclusion"
Read down further and find the part about "not involved in vote tallying"
From not changing votes what ever happened did not even work well "unknown whether".. "and what potential data from the victim could have been exfiltrated"
So some "spear-phishing" did not change the votes and did not seem to even get many other results.
Thats using some "military intelligence".
The quality of the effort was "“medium sophistication,” one that “practically any hacker can pull off.”" Note the use of the term "hacker".
"The actual voting machines aren’t going to be networked"
Finally any issues got talked about as been the everyday issues of "between the setup of the computers and the poll workers using them."
Re "If you look at the actual public evidence, that's all we've got."
The US has an IP range, time of day. IP ranges always point back to just a nation. Government workers always work 9 to 5 shifts in their own nation's time zones too.
The tube or pipe connecting the US brand been hacked is a direct to pipe some person in their own home.
The telephone exchange has connected the computer's modem for a set time 2017.
Other modems don't share that phone number so it must be that user's modem and home computer.
Most interesting people would just hop to a nice fast, open staging server.
From that they would use the network speed to move a lot of plain text unencrypted US data.
Clean up the logs, drop some really fake code litter, move the data around a few more servers and finally move the data to a safe location.
What is the USA going to see? The ip range of that first staging server...
A totally unrelated set of networks and computers will feel the full force of US cyber "fight back"?
That nation will tell the tech media of the deep penetration efforts by the USA on some vital/special/ISP/commercial server and network.
Most governments also use their other nations domestic ISP networks ip ranges to look around the "internet" and do spy things.
Could be a home user on a modem downloading plain text data from a wide open US server again, or it could be the last hop by some other very distant gov/group.
Does the US want to "fight back" on some ISP in an unrelated nation? To find the next hop to another ISP and nation?
Keep on hacking back and hope the next hack is the real person trying to get the data in front of their own home computer?
The "fight back" won't find the destination, it will just damage some ISP/network/university/brand used in some random nation. Or some easy network in some nation that got hacked for its speed and unexpected ip ranges.
Its not the 1980's with one user, a dial up modem and their home computer entering advanced US networks directly. Even in the 1980's most smart people used a few different educational and private sector networks around the world before their final US network of interest.
A lot of work for brands, companies, educational, medical networks and ISP will have to clean up after the USA attempts another "fight back" as they saw the ip, the network connection and attempted to "stop the attack" with some clicking around on some contractor's GUI.
People will need to present secure documents (the classic slide show), edit movies, edit images, send text back. It really depends on the occupation and why the powerful or secure laptop is needed.
Middle management trying to do a presentation in another nation? Collecting secure data from a factory production line or supplier in a distant nation?
A VPN gives some time limit and security. Better than having airport staff clone the data or the clandestine services add malware during a few hours of "questions" at some airport.
Full encryption might be ok, but what was done to the hardware?
I think the idea of just sending a person will get more consideration too.
The anomaly of interest is now anyone who travels a lot for their company or for work.
The US mil, CIA, NSA, army, navy, intelligence groups are not like the expected clandestine services in most smaller nations.
They have been set up by different parts of the US gov and have to get their funding and present their success in very different ways.
Congress might have oversight and control total funding but operational issues are secret and the results might be long or short term and be very political.
The US army might be tired of having to watch the CIA and MI6 back "moderates" around the world. To find the moderates and "pro democracy forces" just told a few US political leaders and the CIA good story to get US support and funds.
When in power they revert to their true faith as expected.
The NSA might have been listening in to decades of moderates and know of their ability to charm the US for support.
The US mil needs upgrades and funding after years of wars. Changing nations around the world and backing color revolutions is getting to be expensive and drawing US efforts away from its own mil and advanced science.
Other nations do not have an empire to run and civil wars to support. Other nations military gets funds and new equipment all day, everyday. New equipment and advanced new ideas. Other nations spies are spying not taking sides in another civil war. The USA is spending all its wealth backing civil wars and funding freedom fighters that then turn out to be useless as they change sides or spend the US funding and never gain power.
After a few decades the different parts of the US mil and clandestine services start to consider their own funding and budgets rather that ever more support for freedom fighters that then change sides.
Different US political parties also have different tactics. More new funding for the US army, support for the US mil and a policy of winning.
Parts of the US clandestine services still cling to nation building, a lot more regime change, supporting US funded democratic freedom fighters, taking sides in man more civil wars.
A lot of groups in the US mil and clandestine services have to secure political funding and show they are winning.
The USA can only cover its own US mil upgrades or fund more clandestine nation building globally and supporting other nations civil wars.
Some of the clandestine services can only work outside the USA, so if the USA spends on the US army domestically, thats not good for their expanded international war budget.
So some of the really skilled alphabet agencies would like some real domestic funding again. Other alphabet agencies want more work and their contractors moving around the world. Staff vote on many US domestic political considerations.
Slashdot Mirror
Re Business plan?
More refugees get allowed in, the more gov funding flows.
The UK considered the legal question of domestic calls in the 1960's when collecting on the Intelsat commercial satellites. It was cheaper just to collect everything and then sort for numbers later. .
The ability to select calls, phone numbers and new calls to phone numbers been watched did not work.
The duplication of an entire network was cheaper.
The legality of US domestic collection can be found in the 1930-70's
Self-auditing is done only to ensure every call is been collected domestically and that the contractor is really collecting everything as expected.
Self-auditing also has security issues in the US gov. Why is everything interesting kept in plain text on open networks in the USA?
So other agencies can search results without creating errors in some auditing systems. Sorting and indexing can keep pace with data searches by all other mil/gov staff.
Say someone with clearance was searching for the build up of a Tet Offensive and could warn the US mil of such an event due to all the information they could search?
Having such work slowed down by constant self-auditing would make US "collect it all" global material less useful as all the staff would be filling in requests to search data. Or telling other staff what they search for and why.
The US liked to allow its cleared staff to search and write reports given clearances based on a feeling of trust and initiative.
Searching bait projects or a persons own name was always tracked.
Any consideration of auditing was done decades ago.
Go back to the domestic original of some of the domestic collection in the USA.
Anti Vietnam war people had their photo taken and any and all phone, car details got collected.
Been in a location is all that is needed to start domestic collection. Once that car is found, phone numbers and friends of friends of friends start to be collected on.
Everyone within 4 hops of anyone in the USA detected with any international connection. A friend of a friend of a friend knows a person in the USA who networked outside the USA?
The Secret Life of Machines, from the UK, looks at the inner workings and history of household and office machinery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The series covers topics like: The Vacuum Cleaner, Television Set, Internal Combustion Engine, Quartz Watch, Telephone, Word Processor, Photocopier.
South African Airways Flight 295 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
ValuJet Flight 592 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Air India Flight 182 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
UPS Airlines Flight 6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The changes now are better ways to confine the damage, detect issues and deal with issues.
Testing and results over many years showed what happened, what could have helped and changes got made.
It depends on the site. Tell the workers some nice fiction. Enter a remote site building at night with a door held open by a shift change, ask a cleaner for access due to a lost ID card once trusted in the "secure" building. Use the elevator to get to a floor thats "locked" to most people.
The network might be the same as in the very, always secure main building in a city, state or nation.
The network could be very secure but some on site hardware in an office on the same network could be trusted due to all the advanced physical building security.
The building is secure at the front street, the elevator is locked per floor, the office door is locked.
The slower led network might just get crypto out over time to be collected later again in person.
The well protected network was never altered. Nothing new was logged. The needed data is collected in person. A CCTV review shows a person wondering around talking to people in a secure area. Nobody called security so that person was allowed to be in the area as they passed the front door security..
The Russia and China people deep in the US gov/mil for generations don't print documents. They shape and create US policy.
Re 'had e-mail contact with the ..."
The NSA tracks all contact with the media.
The Most Intriguing Spy Stories From 166 Internal NSA Reports (May 17 2016)
https://theintercept.com/2016/...
"...press items daily for “cryptologic insecurities” and maintained a database called FIRSTFRUIT with “over 5,000 insecurity-related records” ranging from “espionage damage assessments” to “liaison exchanges.”"
Yes AC every US, UK and Russian photocopier in a secure building now records the face of the person and the document they copied. Paper use is counted too.
The days of walking out of a secure vault, making as many photocopies in the same building as could be carried in a briefcase per day should have ended in the 1970's given spying issues in the UK.
Page 12 of the linked pdf shows what could happen under the "Version of Microsoft Windows 10" part. Page 2 has the Executive Summary.
The problem is not that any MS product is "safe", its that a US gov product in the wild could be used in creative ways.
How many believed the many stories that some of the older bands had really powerful protection that always worked and that was beyond the funding any city, state or federal contractor could work with per case?
It was like Enigma, quick, easy and connected.
The face database is also interesting https://www.muckrock.com/news/...
".... larger database of between one million, twenty million, or potentially a billion faces to instantly identify in the field"
Blasphemy laws in the USA?
A person created or commented on a cartoon about the history of a faith?
Upset a Communist party or commented on a Communist official or the official history of the Communist party?
Comments on the politics of accepting and supporting illegal immigration?
An anti war protester gets reported by a gov/mil/contractor?
Read the wrong book about faith, politics, law and comment or write a review online
Talk too much about a union or workers rights?
Animal activist monitoring?
Comment on environmental issues in the past?
Food quality issues?
Issues surrounding mining, water quality?
Every powerful lobby group will soon create lists of comments and speech they have issues with.
Join, create or comment on a political party? No more freedom of association?
The ability to petition the Government for a redress of grievances online or comment on policy, history, politics in public is chilling.
Have an interest in cryptography and comment on computers, big US brands and their junk products? Note a brands deep links and long past with the security services?
SJW, lobby groups, brands, mil, gov, contractors, political group, other nations, foundations, donors, charity groups, public/private partnerships will have their special "lists" to submit.
Thats why the USA has freedom of speech and freedom after speech.
A search engine works for the user who is exposed to ads. The result is the user gets the content they want. A paywall is not content.
But metal 2 will make sure the CPU can do so much more. The low end gpu will not have to work as much and it will all be ok.
People who need 10-bit / channel can afford to buy a real computer, real software and ensure color works from capture to edit to sale/release.
They need a real CPU, a real OS, lots of ram, fast storage and a supported display. The software has to work with the 10-bit / channel and so does other hardware.
The new Apple products are good for consuming really nice looking video work not made on Apple computers.
Smart people need hardware and software that supports everything their capture, software, color.
Plug in the VR and the gpu.
Soviet "military intelligence" who normally did military spying tried to run a spy in the UK in the 1970's due to an accident of first contact.
.. "and what potential data from the victim could have been exfiltrated"
It ended in failure as the Soviet staff did not have the decades of skill to work long term with a person in the UK and all the emotional issues that result.
The write up of Russia/the Soviet Union ever using "military intelligence" in the West for activity seems more of an older US fantasy than reality.
Russia knows what its "military intelligence" can do and should not do. It learned that by losing one of its more productive spies in the UK in the 1970's.
Losing a good spy does not get "military intelligence" a lot of other direct attempts at spying again.
Why would the US be talking about one of the one groups in Russia that would not be used for spying in the West?
Every other spy agency in the world would notice that glaring mistake too and be wondering why the most simple lack of understanding of Russian's intelligence structure would be allowed to be presented as "news"?
The report does not "show the underlying “raw” intelligence on which the analysis is based".
"cautioned against drawing too big a conclusion"
Read down further and find the part about "not involved in vote tallying"
From not changing votes what ever happened did not even work well "unknown whether"
So some "spear-phishing" did not change the votes and did not seem to even get many other results.
Thats using some "military intelligence".
The quality of the effort was "“medium sophistication,” one that “practically any hacker can pull off.”" Note the use of the term "hacker".
"The actual voting machines aren’t going to be networked"
Finally any issues got talked about as been the everyday issues of "between the setup of the computers and the poll workers using them."
Re "If you look at the actual public evidence, that's all we've got."
The US has an IP range, time of day. IP ranges always point back to just a nation. Government workers always work 9 to 5 shifts in their own nation's time zones too.
The tube or pipe connecting the US brand been hacked is a direct to pipe some person in their own home.
The telephone exchange has connected the computer's modem for a set time 2017.
Other modems don't share that phone number so it must be that user's modem and home computer.
Most interesting people would just hop to a nice fast, open staging server.
From that they would use the network speed to move a lot of plain text unencrypted US data.
Clean up the logs, drop some really fake code litter, move the data around a few more servers and finally move the data to a safe location.
What is the USA going to see? The ip range of that first staging server...
A totally unrelated set of networks and computers will feel the full force of US cyber "fight back"?
That nation will tell the tech media of the deep penetration efforts by the USA on some vital/special/ISP/commercial server and network.
Most governments also use their other nations domestic ISP networks ip ranges to look around the "internet" and do spy things.
Could be a home user on a modem downloading plain text data from a wide open US server again, or it could be the last hop by some other very distant gov/group.
Does the US want to "fight back" on some ISP in an unrelated nation? To find the next hop to another ISP and nation?
Keep on hacking back and hope the next hack is the real person trying to get the data in front of their own home computer?
The "fight back" won't find the destination, it will just damage some ISP/network/university/brand used in some random nation. Or some easy network in some nation that got hacked for its speed and unexpected ip ranges.
Its not the 1980's with one user, a dial up modem and their home computer entering advanced US networks directly. Even in the 1980's most smart people used a few different educational and private sector networks around the world before their final US network of interest.
A lot of work for brands, companies, educational, medical networks and ISP will have to clean up after the USA attempts another "fight back" as they saw the ip, the network connection and attempted to "stop the attack" with some clicking around on some contractor's GUI.
"Bill Would Legalize Active Defense Against Hacks" (March 04, 2017)
https://yro.slashdot.org/story...
People will need to present secure documents (the classic slide show), edit movies, edit images, send text back. It really depends on the occupation and why the powerful or secure laptop is needed.
Middle management trying to do a presentation in another nation? Collecting secure data from a factory production line or supplier in a distant nation?
A VPN gives some time limit and security. Better than having airport staff clone the data or the clandestine services add malware during a few hours of "questions" at some airport.
Full encryption might be ok, but what was done to the hardware?
I think the idea of just sending a person will get more consideration too.
The anomaly of interest is now anyone who travels a lot for their company or for work.
Design the smart TV into the room. The remote is the only thing the guest can access. Its always "on".
The US mil, CIA, NSA, army, navy, intelligence groups are not like the expected clandestine services in most smaller nations.
They have been set up by different parts of the US gov and have to get their funding and present their success in very different ways.
Congress might have oversight and control total funding but operational issues are secret and the results might be long or short term and be very political.
The US army might be tired of having to watch the CIA and MI6 back "moderates" around the world. To find the moderates and "pro democracy forces" just told a few US political leaders and the CIA good story to get US support and funds.
When in power they revert to their true faith as expected.
The NSA might have been listening in to decades of moderates and know of their ability to charm the US for support.
The US mil needs upgrades and funding after years of wars. Changing nations around the world and backing color revolutions is getting to be expensive and drawing US efforts away from its own mil and advanced science.
Other nations do not have an empire to run and civil wars to support. Other nations military gets funds and new equipment all day, everyday. New equipment and advanced new ideas. Other nations spies are spying not taking sides in another civil war. The USA is spending all its wealth backing civil wars and funding freedom fighters that then turn out to be useless as they change sides or spend the US funding and never gain power.
After a few decades the different parts of the US mil and clandestine services start to consider their own funding and budgets rather that ever more support for freedom fighters that then change sides.
Different US political parties also have different tactics. More new funding for the US army, support for the US mil and a policy of winning.
Parts of the US clandestine services still cling to nation building, a lot more regime change, supporting US funded democratic freedom fighters, taking sides in man more civil wars.
A lot of groups in the US mil and clandestine services have to secure political funding and show they are winning.
The USA can only cover its own US mil upgrades or fund more clandestine nation building globally and supporting other nations civil wars.
Some of the clandestine services can only work outside the USA, so if the USA spends on the US army domestically, thats not good for their expanded international war budget.
So some of the really skilled alphabet agencies would like some real domestic funding again. Other alphabet agencies want more work and their contractors moving around the world. Staff vote on many US domestic political considerations.