You make the mistake of believing the reason they give. In truth it makes perfect sense because they do not even try to fight terrorism with these ID cards. The goal is to enslave the entire population with their consent (because they believe that this is about the terrorists).
Having Vienna on the/. front page is hilarious. As a former inhabitant of the world capital of alcoholism (my guess) I find this sentence especially funny: (wein) means wine in German, and has nothing to do with Vienna
The court could've labeled P2P as being promoted for "infringement", and then all items that can be classified as P2P would be considered criminal
I think this would upset Microsoft. They know own groove, a "collaboration tools" for work teams disconnected from their corporate network. Uses P2P inside the work team. I'm sure they could also share mp3s with it;)
Well, then people would again bith about the ending being to abrupt:)
I think the judgement of "padding or not" depends on the viewpoint. I read it not only as a story of "the birth of science and the birth of finance", but also as a refresher of European history, and so I found the tedious sections interesting too.
Did you read his 3 main books on scientific graphics (The Visual Display of Quantitative Information; Envisioning Information; Visual Explanations)? They are very insightful books with a wealth of examples that are very inspiring.
opinions on design (...) by definition are subjective matters
Bull. This might be true if you talk about art, but we are not. You can easily do experiments that show that viewers have an easier time extracting information in a specific graphic design than in others.
once we stop kow towing to the tuftewrongs, we might get somewhere
Sure, but please show specific examples where he is wrong
Actually what's needed is a structure of the work place that allows having the children there.
Which should be the normal way of things, even if it may cost something or reduce productivity by a few percent (which however it doesn't, as parents lose less time to needless complexity).
In a traditional village society it is not the case that parenthood means that the parent wants to stop doing work for himself and the community, even if it was economically possible. But in this case, the children naturally live around the workplace.
Of course today the whole thing would be need to be organized differently. But given our abilities it would be possible if desired.
My fascist chemistry teacher told me the same story about another place 18 years ago in Austria. Just google for oxygen-dihydride and you see the same story over and over.
If your local greens really fell for that, they are the dumbest greens ever. E.g., the greens in Austria usually have chemists and other scientists in the parliament and EU parliament. (They have dumb people too though.)
The US seem so strange from the outside... and even from the inside, where I currently am.
The majority of US citizens are ok with paying like 500 billion dollars for an illegal, unnecessary, and harmful war in Iraq, but get worked up about money spent for elections that decide who gets to decide whether such a war shall be fought?
"If someone in a particular precinct has ability to tamper with the software what makes you think they wouldn't have the ability to tamper with a ballot box, or the paper trail."
Completely different. The voting machines are shipped, closed hardware and software, from an unaccountable machine manufacturer. Any rigging would take place when the machines are constructed (and maybe deployed) by the manufacturer. Even the best willing local people who handle the election on a local level can't do anything against this, and they wouldn't have an idea that it happens anyway. In contrast, paper voting as is customary in Europe is a low-tech thing where people from my local community are completely responsible for the accuracy in my locality. In a smallish community, you know all the people you see at the voting station. They represent their respective parties (every party that partakes in the election in a specific locality gets so send one). In addition there are many volunteers, and if I suspected that something is fishy, I could volunteer too. These people count the votes together. I.e., one guy takes the ballot out of the box, and says "socialist party". He hands the ballot to the next guy who checks. The vote is recorded in a list by another guy. Yet another guy looks over his shoulders and checks. And so on. At the end, each participant knows the results. They are then sent to the national election office. If the result is suspicious, these guys can theoretically get together (website) independently from the election office, and add up their results. Imagine what happened should the 2 results not match.
Sure, fraud is possible in such a system. In a small village, the mayor might have a position to pressure the participants, etc. But large-scale fraud with a predictable outcome is highly unlikely. The odd local bullies pushing results in their favor will probably cancel each other out, unless one party is infested with frauders. In this case, previously mentioned mechanism would probably kick in.
The first is a fair point I guess. So what you argue for is just a better UI to apt (or rather, less UI and more automagic stuff)?
The second one, dunno. I think it's better to have the functionality tied into the system and taken care of automatically. Yeah, it would be nice if I could click a deb, it gets installed, and inserts its source in/etc/apt/sources.list. I'd rather not rely on having to hope that each app implements its own update system, without centralized, easily accessable info
Uh, well, just that corporations don't "die" as such. They may go out of business, and they should if they do more harm than good.
IMHO the application of personal rights to corporations was an incredibly stupid idea. Well, it may have had justification initially, but nowadays it should just be done away with
You don't want automatic updates for security issues? Nice for you, I however do, and the fact that I don't get them on Mac or Win (except for system stuff) already prevents me from using these systems
Are you crazy? apt-get update will NOT give you a usable Sarge. You will need to dist-upgrade. Plus, the release notes recommend aptitude as it makes safer decisions than plain apt-get
That's something I wondered about too. I am a layman, but my understanding is that Chinese is extremely context sensitive, I think older versions more so than modern Simplified Chinese. The literal texts of the magistrates of the imperial era seem to be so context sensitive that you can only really understand them if you are able to draw cross references to other texts, because some writer may have once used a specific sign in a novel context, changing its meaning subtly.
The accepted "translations" are often totally arbitrary, more related to the context of the first translators (more often than not European colionalists) than to the original context. Which for example leads many serious students of T'ai Chi Ch'uan to get into learning Chinese, because the accepted translations are totally off. For example the term "Ch'i is commonly translated as some form of "Energy". Which misleads laymen, and more often than not the sceptics that seek to debunk Ch'i. In fact, it has nothing to do with what we call "energy" at all. This word is a projection of the European translators, who came into contact with T'ai Chi Ch'uan at a time when "energy" was the hip word in Europe (middle 19th century).
I don't know what this means for the discussion at hand, but it sure sounds complicated;)
HHGTTG seems to be especially vulnerable to this because of the word play. I have once recommended it to someone, and the person read it in German (I hadn't thought of that possibility) and told me very soon that it isn't funny. I borrowed the German version, and the person was totally right. Not funny at all. In fact, totally horrible
You remember wrongly. What you remember is what you took away from the following/. discussions in which, as always, at least as much bullshit was said as insightful stuff. Google for it yourself, and check back without/. polluting your mind what he really said. He talked about "forgiveness", but that was meant as a legal word, in the sense of officially and bindingly releasing KDE from every violating that may or may not have occured. The rewording to "appology" was started by malicious or unattentative readers afterwards, and developed into the usual uneducated flamefest, with the few reasonable voices drowned out by the roar of the mob. Sad, really.
why the merry hell is he telling me how I may and may not refer to the operating system I use.
He doesn't, and it has been discussed on/. so often that even user #613926 can't have missed it. At least in this case it would maybe make sense not to comment.
Every time I read this, I try again if RMS is telling me how to call it. I say "Linux." "Linux." "Linux.". And so far I still could. Not even a puff of smoke from which St. IGNUtius appears. Sometimes I even try to Google for "Linux" and, surprise, people say "Linux" all the time.
He is just saying that _he thinks it should be called GNU/Linux, and _he will, and if you talk to him ans say "Linux", he will tell you that he thinks etc. Don't like that, don't talk to him, or respect his wishes.
Otherwise, read my other posts in this thread. It has been
However, this is not RMS's argument. He says GNU/Linux because (i) it ensures that the issue of freedom is not swept away by the technical arguments, and (ii) because the very _idea of having a free/copylefted OS and userland was/is GNU. Neither Linux/s, nor Mozilla, KDE or whatever started the overarching project of having a totally free system _at _all. That was the major and important leap of the mind, not starting another free project when others already have shown that it's possible (as e.g. KDE do who have a free OS to target). This does not mean that the other projects are any less important or laudable. But it makes a good argument why GNU/Linux makes sense, IMO
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You make the mistake of believing the reason they give. In truth it makes perfect sense because they do not even try to fight terrorism with these ID cards. The goal is to enslave the entire population with their consent (because they believe that this is about the terrorists).
Having Vienna on the
The health report 2000 of the city of Vienna, and the report of the World Wine Congress in Vienna might correct you in these mistaken views
Read the books for god's sake!
The court could've labeled P2P as being promoted for "infringement", and then all items that can be classified as P2P would be considered criminal
;)
I think this would upset Microsoft. They know own groove, a "collaboration tools" for work teams disconnected from their corporate network. Uses P2P inside the work team. I'm sure they could also share mp3s with it
bitch ... too abrupt.
Sorry
Well, then people would again bith about the ending being to abrupt :)
I think the judgement of "padding or not" depends on the viewpoint. I read it not only as a story of "the birth of science and the birth of finance", but also as a refresher of European history, and so I found the tedious sections interesting too.
Look at the bad examples in Tufte's books and his changes. Then show me that the bad ones were easier to read than his changed versions. Thanks
" Why does this tufte guy get so much credit (...)"
Might have to do with the fact that he was a professor of statistics, graphic design, and political economy at Yale.
so little
Did you read his 3 main books on scientific graphics (The Visual Display of Quantitative Information; Envisioning Information; Visual Explanations)? They are very insightful books with a wealth of examples that are very inspiring.
opinions on design (...) by definition are subjective matters
Bull. This might be true if you talk about art, but we are not. You can easily do experiments that show that viewers have an easier time extracting information in a specific graphic design than in others.
once we stop kow towing to the tuftewrongs, we might get somewhere
Sure, but please show specific examples where he is wrong
Another
Thanks for this insightful comment
Actually what's needed is a structure of the work place that allows having the children there.
Which should be the normal way of things, even if it may cost something or reduce productivity by a few percent (which however it doesn't, as parents lose less time to needless complexity).
In a traditional village society it is not the case that parenthood means that the parent wants to stop doing work for himself and the community, even if it was economically possible.
But in this case, the children naturally live around the workplace.
Of course today the whole thing would be need to be organized differently. But given our abilities it would be possible if desired.
My fascist chemistry teacher told me the same story about another place 18 years ago in Austria. Just google for oxygen-dihydride and you see the same story over and over.
If your local greens really fell for that, they are the dumbest greens ever. E.g., the greens in Austria usually have chemists and other scientists in the parliament and EU parliament. (They have dumb people too though.)
The US seem so strange from the outside ... and even from the inside, where I currently am.
The majority of US citizens are ok with paying like 500 billion dollars for an illegal, unnecessary, and harmful war in Iraq, but get worked up about money spent for elections that decide who gets to decide whether such a war shall be fought?
"If someone in a particular precinct has ability to tamper with the software what makes you think they wouldn't have the ability to tamper with a ballot box, or the paper trail."
Completely different. The voting machines are shipped, closed hardware and software, from an unaccountable machine manufacturer. Any rigging would take place when the machines are constructed (and maybe deployed) by the manufacturer. Even the best willing local people who handle the election on a local level can't do anything against this, and they wouldn't have an idea that it happens anyway.
In contrast, paper voting as is customary in Europe is a low-tech thing where people from my local community are completely responsible for the accuracy in my locality.
In a smallish community, you know all the people you see at the voting station. They represent their respective parties (every party that partakes in the election in a specific locality gets so send one). In addition there are many volunteers, and if I suspected that something is fishy, I could volunteer too.
These people count the votes together. I.e., one guy takes the ballot out of the box, and says "socialist party". He hands the ballot to the next guy who checks. The vote is recorded in a list by another guy. Yet another guy looks over his shoulders and checks. And so on.
At the end, each participant knows the results. They are then sent to the national election office. If the result is suspicious, these guys can theoretically get together (website) independently from the election office, and add up their results. Imagine what happened should the 2 results not match.
Sure, fraud is possible in such a system. In a small village, the mayor might have a position to pressure the participants, etc. But large-scale fraud with a predictable outcome is highly unlikely. The odd local bullies pushing results in their favor will probably cancel each other out, unless one party is infested with frauders. In this case, previously mentioned mechanism would probably kick in.
The first is a fair point I guess. So what you argue for is just a better UI to apt (or rather, less UI and more automagic stuff)?
/etc/apt/sources.list.
The second one, dunno. I think it's better to have the functionality tied into the system and taken care of automatically. Yeah, it would be nice if I could click a deb, it gets installed, and inserts its source in
I'd rather not rely on having to hope that each app implements its own update system, without centralized, easily accessable info
Uh, well, just that corporations don't "die" as such. They may go out of business, and they should if they do more harm than good.
IMHO the application of personal rights to corporations was an incredibly stupid idea. Well, it may have had justification initially, but nowadays it should just be done away with
You don't want automatic updates for security issues? Nice for you, I however do, and the fact that I don't get them on Mac or Win (except for system stuff) already prevents me from using these systems
Are you crazy? apt-get update will NOT give you a usable Sarge. You will need to dist-upgrade. Plus, the release notes recommend aptitude as it makes safer decisions than plain apt-get
You don't need to be a DD to contribute
Right, the KDE guys were the first to misunderstand it. Which comes as no surprise, as they've more than once shown insensibility in licensing issues.
That's something I wondered about too. I am a layman, but my understanding is that Chinese is extremely context sensitive, I think older versions more so than modern Simplified Chinese.
;)
The literal texts of the magistrates of the imperial era seem to be so context sensitive that you can only really understand them if you are able to draw cross references to other texts, because some writer may have once used a specific sign in a novel context, changing its meaning subtly.
The accepted "translations" are often totally arbitrary, more related to the context of the first translators (more often than not European colionalists) than to the original context. Which for example leads many serious students of T'ai Chi Ch'uan to get into learning Chinese, because the accepted translations are totally off. For example the term "Ch'i is commonly translated as some form of "Energy". Which misleads laymen, and more often than not the sceptics that seek to debunk Ch'i.
In fact, it has nothing to do with what we call "energy" at all. This word is a projection of the European translators, who came into contact with T'ai Chi Ch'uan at a time when "energy" was the hip word in Europe (middle 19th century).
I don't know what this means for the discussion at hand, but it sure sounds complicated
The Greek of the Bible is outdated as a whole by definition, since it's a dead language. Modern Greek is different.
HHGTTG seems to be especially vulnerable to this because of the word play. I have once recommended it to someone, and the person read it in German (I hadn't thought of that possibility) and told me very soon that it isn't funny. I borrowed the German version, and the person was totally right. Not funny at all. In fact, totally horrible
You remember wrongly. What you remember is what you took away from the following /. discussions in which, as always, at least as much bullshit was said as insightful stuff. /. polluting your mind what he really said. He talked about "forgiveness", but that was meant as a legal word, in the sense of officially and bindingly releasing KDE from every violating that may or may not have occured. The rewording to "appology" was started by malicious or unattentative readers afterwards, and developed into the usual uneducated flamefest, with the few reasonable voices drowned out by the roar of the mob. Sad, really.
Google for it yourself, and check back without
why the merry hell is he telling me how I may and may not refer to the operating system I use.
/. so often that even user #613926 can't have missed it. At least in this case it would maybe make sense not to comment.
He doesn't, and it has been discussed on
Every time I read this, I try again if RMS is telling me how to call it. I say "Linux." "Linux." "Linux.". And so far I still could. Not even a puff of smoke from which St. IGNUtius appears.
Sometimes I even try to Google for "Linux" and, surprise, people say "Linux" all the time.
He is just saying that _he thinks it should be called GNU/Linux, and _he will, and if you talk to him ans say "Linux", he will tell you that he thinks etc.
Don't like that, don't talk to him, or respect his wishes.
Otherwise, read my other posts in this thread.
It has been
However, this is not RMS's argument. He says GNU/Linux because (i) it ensures that the issue of freedom is not swept away by the technical arguments, and (ii) because the very _idea of having a free/copylefted OS and userland was/is GNU. Neither Linux/s, nor Mozilla, KDE or whatever started the overarching project of having a totally free system _at _all. That was the major and important leap of the mind, not starting another free project when others already have shown that it's possible (as e.g. KDE do who have a free OS to target).
This does not mean that the other projects are any less important or laudable. But it makes a good argument why GNU/Linux makes sense, IMO
I'm too lazy to post the links again.