As one that has been a victim of statutory rape, I am appalled by you indifference in your first paragraph. Although it did not do as severe to me what it has done to a great number of others, it did damage my thought process and my "first thought" of how things should be. For example, sexually I am attracted to much older women (~45).
While I think sex should be celebrated, I think some responsibility is in order. Some American states have laws of 16+, others are strictly 18+. If you are 18+ and feel you need prepubescent sex, seek consult with professionals as you have a thought deficiency. Fuck that, you are retarded. What part of a person can't wait? (And fuck you if you hate the word retarded!)
As you stated, you know nothing (your words: no first hand knowledge). Well, I DO have firsthand knowledge. That kind of atrocity can cause a myriad of mental irregularities that (if gone unchecked) can produce exponential problems. I'm even going to imply that the world has experts to consult (if they did, this shit would stop), but what I will state is that from experience it is a bad thing.
Yeah, all the guys joke about "why didn't I get the 1-on-1 time with my hot teacher". After 15-16, that shit doesn't fuck with a guy (seemingly). That will forever alter the personality of an 8 year old, especially when they find out they have contracted some incurable STD.
You will have to forgive my indignation at your first paragraph. I take all your talk of "if it's consentual" to mean that you condone prepubescent sex with adults...
You're right, the egg production industry can't possibly be in active balance! They obviously are doing money laundering for some shady criminal organizations, or maybe they're funded by the government to hide aliens.
The "maintenance costs" of the Open-Source-chicken exist even for proprietary-solutions-eggs, and in many cases are higher for the latter.
I knew I should've gone for a car analogy. Anyone got a good one?
Better still:
I would rather buy a $10 fishing pole and dig my own bait than to pay for a $1 fish. It only takes 11 fish to outweigh the cost of the pole.
Spoken like someone that has never had to deal with depression! Tell me, have you ever had thoughts of suicide that would not go away for six months? Thoughts that last a long time in a person's head have a tendency to be acted upon. Are you saying that you would be that selfish with your significant other? (Assuming you have had a significant other...)
Or you guys could just grow some balls and tell mgt that they made a fucked decision. I stand my ground and tell those fuck-heads to use their own decision for a week before ramming it down the company's throat. My mgt hates me, but respects me. I have balls and a job.
Yeah, I could puss-out and leave. Yeah, I could bitch-out. I tell the mgt to learn what they got, then learn what they want - WHILE WORKING 40+ HOURS ON SOMETHING ELSE! Kinda changes their paradigm a bit... But every time I get a new fucker in charge that "wants to make his mark", I go above his head to someone I trust. Fuck that bastard!
While what you said has merits of it's own, it is flawed in this thread. Why not take the Amiga OS instead of writing the shite that windows 1 & 2 were? They needed/desired a different approach from the ground up. Have you ever taken apart a shell script/batch file and rewrote it into something utterly different, or have you just looked through said file and written yours from scratch? It's an order of magnitude different to rewrite-debug-rewrite-debug etc. then to just go from scratch.
The Linux kernel was written from the ground up (as much as was necessary) from scratch, because of many reasons. By your stated thinking they should have used the Minix kernel, right? Waste of time beyond a good study case, IMO. (read: the design approach is too different, I am not biased against one to another.)
After all, think of Firefox minus anything you don't use. I have to use "add-ons" to achieve a less functional, more intuitive browser for my purposes - and no, I am not a dev, I just like that someone still thinks in KISS instead of today's CISS.
OK, so this thing is overly complicated for now. So is M$ Windows for most users. (Don't think so? Be a call center tech for a while.) Don't use it so you all won't have to complain. I like to tinker, and will. All this will happen with your permission/acceptance/blessing or not, same as Firefox/Netscape/I.E./Opera/links (etc.) did. I am quite certain that a "standard distribution" of plugins will be available as soon as the browser becomes well known in the dev circles, much like Emacs.
(BTW: I do not condone the use of Emacs. It's vi or kwrite for me.)
So what you are saying is that my mouse cursor didn't freeze? You are saying that my text input didn't stop, just to jump 3 words into what I typed?
Not bias here, this is measurable - if they know what to measure. My system only gained this "feature" around 2.6.18 or so... (updated from 2.6.8 to 2.6.18)
When I am encoding a video in handbrake, konqueror get's all non-responsive regardless of "nice" configuration. The mouse will jump around like I'm running win 3.1 again. You want numbers, start measuring the mouse jumps per day on a single core system. Start counting the video glitches from using vlc or mplayer while burning a CD or DVD. A 2.4GHz/1GB RAM system is supposed to be fast enough to do that without those errors, right?
My conclusion: Scientifically speaking, if you don't have the numbers you are measuring the wrong thing. I am not a coder, I just script or I would get it done (find the numbers).
I think the data is being planted on the P2P protocol. I think this is just another way for them to say "hey, this is really a problem" and then just make laws against the whole thing. They should make it a felony to put P2P software on a gov. computer. The contractors signed a contract (hence contractors) so they can be told what to (not) do.
Again, I think the data is being planted on the P2P protocol so they can try to ban it nationally.
That old adage is eternally true... "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". The Windows guy that fixes stuff is seen as more valuable than the guy who prevents those things from going wrong in the first place. It's simply a human weakness. Reaction is observable, prevention isn't.
You should be moded +20 insightful. I work for a living (well below my education) building pools (I love it, actually).
A friend and I run a server together part time. He is a good problem solver, while I am good at avoiding them. I do more work on the server because I read various security related websites and blogs (/. [LOL!!!] cDc, governmentsecurity.org et al... Sorry, my bookmarks are on my work PC). My work on the server is done through a "test box" and then applied after. All my friend's work is done on the real box. Guess who is more "revered" by MGT? Not me, the guy whom prevents 10,000 attacks a month - the guy that fixes one is god there. The reason that they don't fire me, is that they see me as extremely helpful to my friend by reading logs, etc.
Here's the clincher, I got him his job. I taught him what he knows.
Microsoft dominates in the corporate server environment, you clueless git.
And do you know why that is, or is the pot calling the kettle black for stupidity? Compatibility and the stupid useless "got me an ejumukashun" IT Dept. It is a more and more rare occasion that a business can't convert (yes Photoshop is a valid reason not to, Exchange server no). The bean counters need to be pacified too, by the slow snowballing of small additional prices (crunching many, many, many small numbers makes them happier than far fewer but larger numbers - that's why they count the beans, CEO's count bushels).
Have you heard of Ernie Ball guitar strings? No M$ at that company (admittedly for legal reasons) and now they save mad cash. Apperently, they got over the "to cheap to retrain once" BS idea and now laugh all the way to the bank. I have owned and operated both Windows servers and Linux servers. Windows servers (and the owners pocketbook) get raped (IME) no matter what they have on them or how well you have them configured.
Not that its exempt, its that should people target Linux as much, the figure would likely be the same.
Are you taking into account that certain vendors (Linux distributions) are never synchronous in kernel/software versions? So that the hack/virus that worked yesterday may not work today? Or the flip side: the hack/virus that works on an update may not work in a previous version? This is the greatest reason, IMO, that viruses are not common in Linux systems. The fact that binary incompatibility [is/may be] there can be enough to discourage.
Hey, maybe they can just put their virus/malware/rootkit/botnet in CVS/SVN etc. so that we could compile it ourselves to ensure compatibility?
A lot of people are to damn short sighted. Ok here goes:
You spend $500,000 to retrain your staff and install linux, (but only $300,000 to upgrade MS for three years). You put in the job description "general knowledge of Linux use" (if the fuck-off's filling out the job app want the job they can learn it from a FREE live cd). After 5~6 years, all the bugs in the system are ironed out, no more IT costs other than IT staff and hardware. EVER.
After 6~7 years, you just cut IT needs by $100,000/yr! (according to some GGG.....GP) Take that money and invest in open source software (not likely due to greed) or OMG - back into the business. A real IT or bean counter can see the long run too, it's the CEO's and such with the need NOW for their yacht/Maserati/hookers.
And now look, all the software that you now use will be available forever due to licensing. Not to mention that if you even thought of going back to vendor-lock-in for OS, the same tools and software are still available!
Tell me, what's wrong with that picture other than "Too fucking lazy"? (Answered my own question - yacht/Maserati/hookers!)
Um, lets see. How about the Holocaust? That was out of the "Us blond-hair blue-eyes are closer to god" religious belief in Germany at the time. We like to call them Nazi's...
I was talking about the fact that they did an experiment with latency in the network just to test a network with latency already?!? W-T-F?!?
Wouldn't they have done better to somehow ensure a connection without latency, with the fact that they are "one of the most often-targeted DDoS sites on the planet"?
"Support our troops" doesn't mean "agree with the war". "Support our troops" means respect that they signed up to do a patriotic duty to fight (sometimes to the death) the position and desires of our government, and stand in defense of our borders and people. You can "Support our troops" without being so gullible as to believe our government sent them to fight for the right cause.
It also means RESPECT THEM WHEN THEY GET HOME!!!
Keep in mind that the point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other guy die for his.
Actually, I was thinking of adding bandwidth throttling to certain parts of a subnet. This info is exacly what you need when you don't know where to start (for me at least).
Shit wifi performace is a standard Linux 'feature'
Com on now, switch distro's. How long did you research? Oh wait, your friend said "here, this is the distro for you..."? Try http://www.pclinuxos.com/, or you could just accept that the US government has outlawed the OEM's of wi-fi from open sourcing the drivers. (some clueless dumbshit thought it would keep hackers from destroying infrastructure) This means we have to "wrap" or reverse engineer - so yeah, the drivers of most suck. Even though you were OT.
placing an INT 3 (on other platforms, it's an illegal instruction)
WTF? You aren't serious are you? M$ debug used that, IIRC (x86 not SPARC). I am fairly certain that the http://www.freedos.org/ version uses it too. Hardware breakpoints are slick, but weren't available when DOS was stol... written.
Yes, I void warranties and edit binaries.
Not really sure what they would do with SPARC, though.
I don't know, but their stamp on the box? M$ got sick of windows games not making them shitloads of money and made a console (ala Xbox 1 & 360). I have a M$ keyboard and laser mouse, good products. I hate their software, but their hardware seems good enough (except the 360 - google RRoD). If M$ did so well with the Xbox, how about server boxes being single vendor solution (HW & SW)?
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The 8088 was a 16-bit CPU with 8-bit bus, and the 8086 was a true 16-bit (I still own a Compaq 251 Deskpro w/8086). (proof that higher numbers doesn't always mean better) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8088 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8086
(As much as I wanted to mod here)
China doing it? Do you really buy into them being techno-superior? Those script-kiddies?!? Meh, maybe the Japanese...
As one that has been a victim of statutory rape, I am appalled by you indifference in your first paragraph. Although it did not do as severe to me what it has done to a great number of others, it did damage my thought process and my "first thought" of how things should be. For example, sexually I am attracted to much older women (~45).
While I think sex should be celebrated, I think some responsibility is in order. Some American states have laws of 16+, others are strictly 18+. If you are 18+ and feel you need prepubescent sex, seek consult with professionals as you have a thought deficiency. Fuck that, you are retarded. What part of a person can't wait? (And fuck you if you hate the word retarded!)
As you stated, you know nothing (your words: no first hand knowledge). Well, I DO have firsthand knowledge. That kind of atrocity can cause a myriad of mental irregularities that (if gone unchecked) can produce exponential problems. I'm even going to imply that the world has experts to consult (if they did, this shit would stop), but what I will state is that from experience it is a bad thing.
Yeah, all the guys joke about "why didn't I get the 1-on-1 time with my hot teacher". After 15-16, that shit doesn't fuck with a guy (seemingly). That will forever alter the personality of an 8 year old, especially when they find out they have contracted some incurable STD.
You will have to forgive my indignation at your first paragraph. I take all your talk of "if it's consentual" to mean that you condone prepubescent sex with adults...
You're right, the egg production industry can't possibly be in active balance! They obviously are doing money laundering for some shady criminal organizations, or maybe they're funded by the government to hide aliens. The "maintenance costs" of the Open-Source-chicken exist even for proprietary-solutions-eggs, and in many cases are higher for the latter. I knew I should've gone for a car analogy. Anyone got a good one?
Better still: I would rather buy a $10 fishing pole and dig my own bait than to pay for a $1 fish. It only takes 11 fish to outweigh the cost of the pole.
Spoken like someone that has never had to deal with depression! Tell me, have you ever had thoughts of suicide that would not go away for six months? Thoughts that last a long time in a person's head have a tendency to be acted upon. Are you saying that you would be that selfish with your significant other? (Assuming you have had a significant other...)
Or you guys could just grow some balls and tell mgt that they made a fucked decision. I stand my ground and tell those fuck-heads to use their own decision for a week before ramming it down the company's throat. My mgt hates me, but respects me. I have balls and a job.
Yeah, I could puss-out and leave. Yeah, I could bitch-out. I tell the mgt to learn what they got, then learn what they want - WHILE WORKING 40+ HOURS ON SOMETHING ELSE! Kinda changes their paradigm a bit... But every time I get a new fucker in charge that "wants to make his mark", I go above his head to someone I trust. Fuck that bastard!
While what you said has merits of it's own, it is flawed in this thread. Why not take the Amiga OS instead of writing the shite that windows 1 & 2 were? They needed/desired a different approach from the ground up. Have you ever taken apart a shell script/batch file and rewrote it into something utterly different, or have you just looked through said file and written yours from scratch? It's an order of magnitude different to rewrite-debug-rewrite-debug etc. then to just go from scratch.
The Linux kernel was written from the ground up (as much as was necessary) from scratch, because of many reasons. By your stated thinking they should have used the Minix kernel, right? Waste of time beyond a good study case, IMO. (read: the design approach is too different, I am not biased against one to another.)
After all, think of Firefox minus anything you don't use. I have to use "add-ons" to achieve a less functional, more intuitive browser for my purposes - and no, I am not a dev, I just like that someone still thinks in KISS instead of today's CISS.
OK, so this thing is overly complicated for now. So is M$ Windows for most users. (Don't think so? Be a call center tech for a while.) Don't use it so you all won't have to complain. I like to tinker, and will. All this will happen with your permission/acceptance/blessing or not, same as Firefox/Netscape/I.E./Opera/links (etc.) did. I am quite certain that a "standard distribution" of plugins will be available as soon as the browser becomes well known in the dev circles, much like Emacs.
(BTW: I do not condone the use of Emacs. It's vi or kwrite for me.)
So what you are saying is that my mouse cursor didn't freeze? You are saying that my text input didn't stop, just to jump 3 words into what I typed?
Not bias here, this is measurable - if they know what to measure. My system only gained this "feature" around 2.6.18 or so... (updated from 2.6.8 to 2.6.18)
When I am encoding a video in handbrake, konqueror get's all non-responsive regardless of "nice" configuration. The mouse will jump around like I'm running win 3.1 again. You want numbers, start measuring the mouse jumps per day on a single core system. Start counting the video glitches from using vlc or mplayer while burning a CD or DVD. A 2.4GHz/1GB RAM system is supposed to be fast enough to do that without those errors, right?
My conclusion: Scientifically speaking, if you don't have the numbers you are measuring the wrong thing. I am not a coder, I just script or I would get it done (find the numbers).
I think the data is being planted on the P2P protocol. I think this is just another way for them to say "hey, this is really a problem" and then just make laws against the whole thing. They should make it a felony to put P2P software on a gov. computer. The contractors signed a contract (hence contractors) so they can be told what to (not) do.
Again, I think the data is being planted on the P2P protocol so they can try to ban it nationally.
And all of this is because IT never seems to be able to make management understand no matter how hard they try or what tactics they take:
There, fixed that for ya!
That old adage is eternally true... "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". The Windows guy that fixes stuff is seen as more valuable than the guy who prevents those things from going wrong in the first place. It's simply a human weakness. Reaction is observable, prevention isn't.
You should be moded +20 insightful. I work for a living (well below my education) building pools (I love it, actually).
A friend and I run a server together part time. He is a good problem solver, while I am good at avoiding them. I do more work on the server because I read various security related websites and blogs (/. [LOL!!!] cDc, governmentsecurity.org et al... Sorry, my bookmarks are on my work PC). My work on the server is done through a "test box" and then applied after. All my friend's work is done on the real box. Guess who is more "revered" by MGT? Not me, the guy whom prevents 10,000 attacks a month - the guy that fixes one is god there. The reason that they don't fire me, is that they see me as extremely helpful to my friend by reading logs, etc.
Here's the clincher, I got him his job. I taught him what he knows.
Microsoft dominates in the corporate server environment, you clueless git.
And do you know why that is, or is the pot calling the kettle black for stupidity? Compatibility and the stupid useless "got me an ejumukashun" IT Dept. It is a more and more rare occasion that a business can't convert (yes Photoshop is a valid reason not to, Exchange server no). The bean counters need to be pacified too, by the slow snowballing of small additional prices (crunching many, many, many small numbers makes them happier than far fewer but larger numbers - that's why they count the beans, CEO's count bushels).
Have you heard of Ernie Ball guitar strings? No M$ at that company (admittedly for legal reasons) and now they save mad cash. Apperently, they got over the "to cheap to retrain once" BS idea and now laugh all the way to the bank. I have owned and operated both Windows servers and Linux servers. Windows servers (and the owners pocketbook) get raped (IME) no matter what they have on them or how well you have them configured.
If I were you, I would have put on my tinfoil hat, linked in through Tor, and posted AC. The NSA just labeled you a "possible domestic terrorist".
Not that its exempt, its that should people target Linux as much, the figure would likely be the same.
Are you taking into account that certain vendors (Linux distributions) are never synchronous in kernel/software versions? So that the hack/virus that worked yesterday may not work today? Or the flip side: the hack/virus that works on an update may not work in a previous version? This is the greatest reason, IMO, that viruses are not common in Linux systems. The fact that binary incompatibility [is/may be] there can be enough to discourage.
Hey, maybe they can just put their virus/malware/rootkit/botnet in CVS/SVN etc. so that we could compile it ourselves to ensure compatibility?
A lot of people are to damn short sighted. Ok here goes:
You spend $500,000 to retrain your staff and install linux, (but only $300,000 to upgrade MS for three years). You put in the job description "general knowledge of Linux use" (if the fuck-off's filling out the job app want the job they can learn it from a FREE live cd). After 5~6 years, all the bugs in the system are ironed out, no more IT costs other than IT staff and hardware. EVER.
After 6~7 years, you just cut IT needs by $100,000/yr! (according to some GGG.....GP) Take that money and invest in open source software (not likely due to greed) or OMG - back into the business. A real IT or bean counter can see the long run too, it's the CEO's and such with the need NOW for their yacht/Maserati/hookers. And now look, all the software that you now use will be available forever due to licensing. Not to mention that if you even thought of going back to vendor-lock-in for OS, the same tools and software are still available!
Tell me, what's wrong with that picture other than "Too fucking lazy"? (Answered my own question - yacht/Maserati/hookers!)
Um, lets see. How about the Holocaust? That was out of the "Us blond-hair blue-eyes are closer to god" religious belief in Germany at the time. We like to call them Nazi's...
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust Notice the "and political and religious opponents" line! (Emphasis mine).
You totally misunderstood.
I was talking about the fact that they did an experiment with latency in the network just to test a network with latency already?!? W-T-F?!?
Wouldn't they have done better to somehow ensure a connection without latency, with the fact that they are "one of the most often-targeted DDoS sites on the planet"?
...what it's like to be one of the most often-targeted DDoS sites on the planet.
Tell me why they have to do an "experiment" to find this? Isn't that "experiement" ongoing all the time?
"Support our troops" doesn't mean "agree with the war". "Support our troops" means respect that they signed up to do a patriotic duty to fight (sometimes to the death) the position and desires of our government, and stand in defense of our borders and people. You can "Support our troops" without being so gullible as to believe our government sent them to fight for the right cause. It also means RESPECT THEM WHEN THEY GET HOME!!! Keep in mind that the point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other guy die for his.
Actually, Stanford Research Institute. First marketed by Xerox It wasn't Apple -or- Microsoft!
What is the point of doing this?
Actually, I was thinking of adding bandwidth throttling to certain parts of a subnet. This info is exacly what you need when you don't know where to start (for me at least).
Shit wifi performace is a standard Linux 'feature'
Com on now, switch distro's. How long did you research? Oh wait, your friend said "here, this is the distro for you..."? Try http://www.pclinuxos.com/, or you could just accept that the US government has outlawed the OEM's of wi-fi from open sourcing the drivers. (some clueless dumbshit thought it would keep hackers from destroying infrastructure) This means we have to "wrap" or reverse engineer - so yeah, the drivers of most suck. Even though you were OT.
placing an INT 3 (on other platforms, it's an illegal instruction)
WTF? You aren't serious are you? M$ debug used that, IIRC (x86 not SPARC). I am fairly certain that the http://www.freedos.org/ version uses it too. Hardware breakpoints are slick, but weren't available when DOS was stol... written. Yes, I void warranties and edit binaries.
You're daft. it wouldn't be Soogle, it would be Gun!
Not really sure what they would do with SPARC, though.
I don't know, but their stamp on the box? M$ got sick of windows games not making them shitloads of money and made a console (ala Xbox 1 & 360). I have a M$ keyboard and laser mouse, good products. I hate their software, but their hardware seems good enough (except the 360 - google RRoD). If M$ did so well with the Xbox, how about server boxes being single vendor solution (HW & SW)?
I would donate $50. (Just remember that the mod system isn't fool-proof.)