The upside to this (if there is to be one) is that most people can die in their sleep in a fire. Smoke inhalation can kill you without you waking up.
Let's all hope he never awoke.
On the utter downside, we all seem to be losing bright minds. We lost Hans Reiser, Rick752, PCLinuxOS lost N1PTT (Robert Green) just to name a few more.
It just goes to show you how fragile life really is. Some chose to celebrate it with us other geeks and share some code and what not. I thank you all that do!
There are a lot of threads in forums specific to one flavor of Linux or another that should be read OS wide... Maybe there will be a function to import from say, Ubuntu or Slackware or PCLinuxOS forums so that the great info could be found by all.
It would be nice to have forums dedicated to certain software that had a good chance of large public use and the dev's reading it... You know, for usability purposes. The dev's could get a real feel for the pulse of the user base. If enough "how do I do X or Y function" get asked, maybe the next release of that software could make it loads easier to do X or Y. Also, great help files could be written almost directly from the forums. Just a thought.
I think it's a great thing, what has transpired. Maybe now the kernel might get some more general interaction between the dev's and the day-to-day users. Maybe this might make a better channel for communication than just mailing lists?
Actually, isn't all that what http://www.linuxquestions.org/ is for? They could just as easily post a link to LinuxQuestions.org as a forum and leave the main site as an info only/release site. That might get LinuxQuestions.org some more general attention (and possible affection) as it is not distribution centric. Also, that would allow the main site to remain at least that much smaller and more manageable. Why double efforts if it isn't needed?
Right now, pointing newbies at Google is one of the big linux turnoffs for them.
They DO need to learn that "The only stupid question is one that you could easily answer yourself." I have said that for 20 years or so. Google and forum searches should be their first thought. Understanding the results comes after asking better questions. I myself still need help from time to time, but instead of asking what I call stupid questions, I go to a search function. Only after such do I ask a better, more informed question if needed. You could, in your answer, post that you found the result on google.com or a forum search by searching for what they asked. Don't just tell them to search, show them that they can! After all, are we not the admin of our own computers?
Yes, just telling them to RTFM is the worst idea. Instead, tell them how to find TFM and that you are there to help them understand what they found. If they found nothing, there might not be a FM, then help them anyway.
Nothing to see here, move along. The Xbox 360 already (circa 2005) by using e-fuses. Don't believe me? Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxjpmc8ZIxM and try to imagine not being able to remove Windows.
After years of Compaq DOS 3.31, I skipped over Windows 3/9x and cut my teeth (for Linux) on Slackware. I still only use the CLI if I can. Actually, I am typing this from Gentoox on my xbox.
I got this article late because I was still updating...
Well then, what they need to do is provide a live CD that can test the hardware no matter what state the software is currently in. Once they know the hardware is good, they can give software support or not based on what is on the hardware. Exactly! Most hard drive MFG's already do this, i.e. Seagate & Western Digital.
Everyone seems to be so worried about DRM, buying an Escalade or catching STD's (STD's & Escalades discounting the avid/. posting person) that they all can't see what this really is... This is just a battle to slow down what is happening.
Not that I'm not patriotic, but our US of A is NOT invulnerable to the fallacy that "We are a utopia, and will continue to be so". Let me put it this way: All countries have had a pattern. The people that know the least, know it the loudest. While the intelligent person is tuning them out, the masses (or "sheep") are eagerly eating those words as if they had A1 steak sauce on them. Those "sheep" are the people that vote the most, buy the most and are the most proactive. The government is forced to listen to the majority, even if it is stupid and removes our rights. According to the system now in place, "money talks and bullshit is the poor people". We are GOING to have rights revoked, it is unavoidable.
For example, our First Amendment Right was revoked by denying prayer in school, but that was revoked in retaliation to the censorship the Christians imposed. Does this seem like the current DRM case to you?
__________________________________________________ ______ Stupid should hurt, but only the stupid.
Humans never truly grow up, they just get better toys.
I would strip the DRM support from the kernel myself (like cutting off a rotten foot...)
What I want to know is if someone will find a way to remove the DRM chips (or whatever)?
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...deal with pain and ridicule until they move off it.
And that's just from the software. You get pencils (chairs?) flung at you from other staff...
The upside to this (if there is to be one) is that most people can die in their sleep in a fire. Smoke inhalation can kill you without you waking up. Let's all hope he never awoke.
On the utter downside, we all seem to be losing bright minds. We lost Hans Reiser, Rick752, PCLinuxOS lost N1PTT (Robert Green) just to name a few more.
It just goes to show you how fragile life really is. Some chose to celebrate it with us other geeks and share some code and what not. I thank you all that do!
Shitty year for us all I guess?
The data you seek in in python script form, and is still in a pastebin (linked from a forum) on the net somewhere... Yet again, google is our friend.
Holy shit, I just swallowed my chewing tobacco!
It would be nice to have forums dedicated to certain software that had a good chance of large public use and the dev's reading it... You know, for usability purposes. The dev's could get a real feel for the pulse of the user base. If enough "how do I do X or Y function" get asked, maybe the next release of that software could make it loads easier to do X or Y. Also, great help files could be written almost directly from the forums. Just a thought.
I think it's a great thing, what has transpired. Maybe now the kernel might get some more general interaction between the dev's and the day-to-day users. Maybe this might make a better channel for communication than just mailing lists?
Actually, isn't all that what http://www.linuxquestions.org/ is for? They could just as easily post a link to LinuxQuestions.org as a forum and leave the main site as an info only/release site. That might get LinuxQuestions.org some more general attention (and possible affection) as it is not distribution centric. Also, that would allow the main site to remain at least that much smaller and more manageable. Why double efforts if it isn't needed?
Right now, pointing newbies at Google is one of the big linux turnoffs for them.
They DO need to learn that "The only stupid question is one that you could easily answer yourself." I have said that for 20 years or so. Google and forum searches should be their first thought. Understanding the results comes after asking better questions. I myself still need help from time to time, but instead of asking what I call stupid questions, I go to a search function. Only after such do I ask a better, more informed question if needed. You could, in your answer, post that you found the result on google.com or a forum search by searching for what they asked. Don't just tell them to search, show them that they can! After all, are we not the admin of our own computers? Yes, just telling them to RTFM is the worst idea. Instead, tell them how to find TFM and that you are there to help them understand what they found. If they found nothing, there might not be a FM, then help them anyway.
I think /. is conforming volutarily... Out of all the posts here, two are visible.
Push people to "do without" and they might do just that. They may also become entirely too good at it in the process.
(emphasis mine) You mean just like this guy's story?
Nothing to see here, move along. The Xbox 360 already (circa 2005) by using e-fuses. Don't believe me? Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxjpmc8ZIxM and try to imagine not being able to remove Windows.
Scaaaaaary shit, huh?
Obviously the technical specs change, but the average computer buyer wouldn't know the difference if you highlighted it in red.
That's because the 'red' is covered by the 'white-out'.
Hey Oleg Teterin, "Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you..." ;-)
The IP patent race is the new 'Special Olypics'...
Kudos, Patrick! Long may you release!
...And I thought this was a family channel?!?
After years of Compaq DOS 3.31, I skipped over Windows 3/9x and cut my teeth (for Linux) on Slackware. I still only use the CLI if I can. Actually, I am typing this from Gentoox on my xbox. I got this article late because I was still updating...
yeah, something like this: 1. steal ipod info 2. 3. profit!!!
Bah! Look at FreeDOS! Even at the DOS level, OSS kicks the crap outta M$!
Everyone seems to be so worried about DRM, buying an Escalade or catching STD's (STD's & Escalades discounting the avid /. posting person) that they all can't see what this really is... This is just a battle to slow down what is happening.
_ ______
Not that I'm not patriotic, but our US of A is NOT invulnerable to the fallacy that "We are a utopia, and will continue to be so". Let me put it this way: All countries have had a pattern. The people that know the least, know it the loudest. While the intelligent person is tuning them out, the masses (or "sheep") are eagerly eating those words as if they had A1 steak sauce on them. Those "sheep" are the people that vote the most, buy the most and are the most proactive. The government is forced to listen to the majority, even if it is stupid and removes our rights. According to the system now in place, "money talks and bullshit is the poor people". We are GOING to have rights revoked, it is unavoidable.
For example, our First Amendment Right was revoked by denying prayer in school, but that was revoked in retaliation to the censorship the Christians imposed. Does this seem like the current DRM case to you?
_________________________________________________
Stupid should hurt, but only the stupid.
Humans never truly grow up, they just get better toys.
yeah, but my pet fly is PISSED because not a single distribution has support for multiple monitor cards out-of-the-box!
more usability testing, more QA...
Didn't I read an article about Linus implimenting this in the kernel dev???
Complete with better-managed dev cycles???
IMO, we could all learn from each other, in implication also implying that we ALL have a lot to learn!
OT: version numbers are an atiquated ideology. They should be replaced with release-dating, such as 20060629!
Much easier to manage, yes?
I would strip the DRM support from the kernel myself (like cutting off a rotten foot...) What I want to know is if someone will find a way to remove the DRM chips (or whatever)?