Yeah, for me, it is entirely the "Because I can" factor. Putting aside morale debate, I'm sure many of us do geeky things because we can, not because we have to.
-Ed
That is true. I wouldn't recommend it for people who aren't familiar with some sort of command-prompt and learning quickly and following complicated and sometimes convoluted instructions. (The latter for hardware that deviates from the Apple established norm, like my setup.) But once it's running its totally worth it.
With the right hardware it is. With a little research, you can figure out what hardware works and what doesn't. The best way to make sure it is seemless is to find out what hardware is in one of the Apple offerings, and then mimic it when you purchase your hardware. Then it is pretty seamless.
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I haven't installed 10.4.7 because I haven't had time. It was running on plain hardware about a day after it was released. What do you mean by unsupported? Do you mean unsupported by Apple? Because it is most definitely supported in forums on the internet, such as www.osx86project.org.
Any software that i've done for OS X has been released under the liscense of the the software it was derived from. So, Apple could take the time I've spent on drivers for my hardware and choose to incorporate them into OS X and release them on their own if they chose to do so in a Vanilla OSX release. Besides, now they have a huge beta test organization that they got for free.
And how do you know that I haven't already bought a copy of OS X just in case there happens to be any legal problems? And as of yet, I have not heard of any cases where Apple has gone after users of its hardware on unsupported systems. Not to say that they won't, they just haven't yet.
I'm running 10.4.6 on my Gateway 7515gx with a Mobile Athlon64 4000+ and a gig of ram. I haven't tested parallel's yet, but I've talked to some people who have.
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Intel's 65nm chips have been just beating the Amd 90nm chips.
Would you not expect for AMD's 65nm chips to performm that much better than the Intel Core Chips at 65nm? I think that when AMD moves to 65nm they'll be doing better than Intel.
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Should china's firewall be slashdotted so that it can't work anymore and therefore allow the people of china a free internet? (free as in not censored).
its not useless because it allows you to see the contents of each window layered as they are on the desktop. So you can see how far back your window is, once you've got the rollodex open you can also use the mouse to click to the appropriate window.
there's also new UI enhancements in the start bar, when you mouse over a tab for a program a little box comes up with a preview of the window. That is definitely useful because it allows you to make sure that the one you've got your mouse over is actually the right window.
These feature's aren't useless they are actually quite useful compare to the default alt-tab behavior in windows XP.
Download the Beta and when you've got some apps open use Winkey + Tab. There's an example of 3D. In just that one respect Vista is an improvement over XP.
From your post it is evident that you haven't tried Vista and just listen to the latest slashFUD. Please try and get an informed opinion before you start saying stuff.
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Posted from a Gateway running Mac OS X 10.4.6 / Windows XP / Windows Vista Ultimate Beta 2
Windows hasn't seen an update in six years. iPods are selling like hotcakes, and people eat up Google web services for breakfast. I really don't see what you're basing your position on since the actual state of the tech market seems to suggest the opposite. Web services and digital media are the new push. Desktop machines are hubs to the web and to media--the content people are consuming which the desktop is just a medium for.
So you are saying that from Windows XP Home Edition to WIndows XP Pro SP2 there are no updates at all?
You my friend have obviously not been living in the windows world since at least 2001.
Windows XP Pro SP2 comes with many more drivers, much more security, and a lot of bug fixes with comparison to the original iteration of XP. There have been at least 2 major updates (SP1 and SP2) and countless numbers of hotfixes.
You're probably going to respond saying something like if Windows was written better the first time there wouldn't be the need for so many security updates, and that may be true, but what you can't say is that there have been no updates to windows since 2001, which is a very wrong statement to say. Not to mention two versions of Windows XP Pro x64.
And as far as Vista goes, MS has shipped 5 Pre-Release Builds already, and there is a lot of improvement on the windows end of things.
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when I first saw the title of the article I thought the pirates weren't complaining about the quality of the movie with regards to the tech involved, I was thinking they were talking about the quality of the movie (drama wise.)
Regarding Apple laptops being quite, the new MacBook Pro's are very noisy from what I've read and that's why there's a lot of complaints about them regarding that.
-posted from MAC OS X on a gateway with an Athlon 64 4000+
I was saying it was biblical in the more historical context that it occured then. In that seeing is beliving happened for thomas as a specific case and was the origin of the idea as a phrase, claiming that seeing is believing as a basis in salvation would be kind of counter productive and would would pretty much disclude anyone who learned of christianity After Easter + pentecost 1. And it was quoted where Jesus said blessed are those who do not see and believe, so yeah, Jesus was getting at a point by using Thomas' example as a counter-point.
29Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Thomas never actually touched Jesus, he just had the realization of who Jesus was. All he did was see, so no fingering is believing is not correct, and no you may not attribute it to me, because I didn't come up with it and wouldn't want to claim it as my own. It's all yours buddy.
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Yeah, for me, it is entirely the "Because I can" factor. Putting aside morale debate, I'm sure many of us do geeky things because we can, not because we have to.
-Ed
I'll leave aside the global warming debate (which will only bring flames)
Was the flames a global Warming joke?
-ed
That is true. I wouldn't recommend it for people who aren't familiar with some sort of command-prompt and learning quickly and following complicated and sometimes convoluted instructions. (The latter for hardware that deviates from the Apple established norm, like my setup.) But once it's running its totally worth it.
-ed
With the right hardware it is. With a little research, you can figure out what hardware works and what doesn't. The best way to make sure it is seemless is to find out what hardware is in one of the Apple offerings, and then mimic it when you purchase your hardware. Then it is pretty seamless.
-ed
I haven't installed 10.4.7 because I haven't had time. It was running on plain hardware about a day after it was released. What do you mean by unsupported? Do you mean unsupported by Apple? Because it is most definitely supported in forums on the internet, such as www.osx86project.org.
Any software that i've done for OS X has been released under the liscense of the the software it was derived from. So, Apple could take the time I've spent on drivers for my hardware and choose to incorporate them into OS X and release them on their own if they chose to do so in a Vanilla OSX release. Besides, now they have a huge beta test organization that they got for free.
And how do you know that I haven't already bought a copy of OS X just in case there happens to be any legal problems? And as of yet, I have not heard of any cases where Apple has gone after users of its hardware on unsupported systems. Not to say that they won't, they just haven't yet.
-ed
I have.
I'm running 10.4.6 on my Gateway 7515gx with a Mobile Athlon64 4000+ and a gig of ram. I haven't tested parallel's yet, but I've talked to some people who have.
-Ed
www.osx86project.org.
2005 called and wants their joke back.
Seriously though, people have been doing it since the first verrsion of 10.4 x86 was released to developers.
-Ed
Intel's 65nm chips have been just beating the Amd 90nm chips.
Would you not expect for AMD's 65nm chips to performm that much better than the Intel Core Chips at 65nm? I think that when AMD moves to 65nm they'll be doing better than Intel. -ed
It may be possible they are referring to laptop size hard drives. AFAIK there are no 250gig laptop drives. -Ed
Should china's firewall be slashdotted so that it can't work anymore and therefore allow the people of china a free internet? (free as in not censored).
-ed
Not at all. It's as easy as embedding a in one of the text forms. -ed
Start -> Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs -> Windows Internet Explorer Beta 2.
Follow the wizard to uninstall.
You're welcome. -ed
its not useless because it allows you to see the contents of each window layered as they are on the desktop. So you can see how far back your window is, once you've got the rollodex open you can also use the mouse to click to the appropriate window.
there's also new UI enhancements in the start bar, when you mouse over a tab for a program a little box comes up with a preview of the window. That is definitely useful because it allows you to make sure that the one you've got your mouse over is actually the right window.
These feature's aren't useless they are actually quite useful compare to the default alt-tab behavior in windows XP.
Aero is a 3d interface.
Download the Beta and when you've got some apps open use Winkey + Tab. There's an example of 3D. In just that one respect Vista is an improvement over XP.
From your post it is evident that you haven't tried Vista and just listen to the latest slashFUD. Please try and get an informed opinion before you start saying stuff.
-ed
Posted from a Gateway running Mac OS X 10.4.6 / Windows XP / Windows Vista Ultimate Beta 2
RIT? is that you calling?
Windows hasn't seen an update in six years. iPods are selling like hotcakes, and people eat up Google web services for breakfast. I really don't see what you're basing your position on since the actual state of the tech market seems to suggest the opposite. Web services and digital media are the new push. Desktop machines are hubs to the web and to media--the content people are consuming which the desktop is just a medium for.
So you are saying that from Windows XP Home Edition to WIndows XP Pro SP2 there are no updates at all?
You my friend have obviously not been living in the windows world since at least 2001.
Windows XP Pro SP2 comes with many more drivers, much more security, and a lot of bug fixes with comparison to the original iteration of XP. There have been at least 2 major updates (SP1 and SP2) and countless numbers of hotfixes.
You're probably going to respond saying something like if Windows was written better the first time there wouldn't be the need for so many security updates, and that may be true, but what you can't say is that there have been no updates to windows since 2001, which is a very wrong statement to say. Not to mention two versions of Windows XP Pro x64.
And as far as Vista goes, MS has shipped 5 Pre-Release Builds already, and there is a lot of improvement on the windows end of things.
This message brought to you buy a laptop running Windows Vista Beta 2 tripple booting with Windows XP Pro SP2 and Mac OSX 10.4.6
citation of which newspapers? thanks.
when I first saw the title of the article I thought the pirates weren't complaining about the quality of the movie with regards to the tech involved, I was thinking they were talking about the quality of the movie (drama wise.)
Regarding Apple laptops being quite, the new MacBook Pro's are very noisy from what I've read and that's why there's a lot of complaints about them regarding that.
-posted from MAC OS X on a gateway with an Athlon 64 4000+
godwin, for teh win!
If your VAIO has at least SSE2 and a few gigs of hard drive space, it can run OSX.
OSX86 Project for more information.
Except in new york where we have 8.75% and then there's Delaware with their 0%, lucky bastards ;-)
I was saying it was biblical in the more historical context that it occured then. In that seeing is beliving happened for thomas as a specific case and was the origin of the idea as a phrase, claiming that seeing is believing as a basis in salvation would be kind of counter productive and would would pretty much disclude anyone who learned of christianity After Easter + pentecost 1. And it was quoted where Jesus said blessed are those who do not see and believe, so yeah, Jesus was getting at a point by using Thomas' example as a counter-point.
To finish the passage from above....
28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
29Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Thomas never actually touched Jesus, he just had the realization of who Jesus was. All he did was see, so no fingering is believing is not correct, and no you may not attribute it to me, because I didn't come up with it and wouldn't want to claim it as my own. It's all yours buddy.
If the source isn't a paraphrase of the story of Thomas then where is it from? Sources would be appreciated. Thanks.