I agree, I was using OS X on my Gateway for a while. And while it was good, some stuff just annoyed the crap out of me. Yeah, I was running on unsupported hardware, but the behavior for alt-tab (mapped as apple-key-tab) was annoying. I like being able to scroll through each window. It bothered me most when I was ssh'ing into the school boxes from mac os and had multipled instances of firefox and emacs running and it was a pain in the butt to figure what was where. Yes, I knew about expose, but even so, I am just so used to alt-tab, which also works in solaris (to my satisfaction.)
I would probably get a macbook pro for the iLife suite, because I haven't yet gotten my sound card working in OS X. (I want garageband.) However, I do not want a machine with only 512mb ram standard. 1gig is the minimum necessary now, especially if I was going to be dualbooting with windows for work.
I also like have the right click button. I don't think I'll ever get used to shift click.
Thanks for that information. All I ever see is 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 10 guys is sexually solicted online. I never see anything else that says what the responses are, how many of those happen to be pranks, how many are legit, etc. Needless to say, since most people actually ignore those things, why the need for legislation?
If the numbers are that high then we have a serious education problem in this country. Why do people treat the internet than any other public place? Don't talk to strangers, etc. If people practice the rules that they live by in normal life we wouldn't have those kind of problems.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
From the Declaration of Independence. But this ban totally goes against the spirit this country was founded on becaeuse it cramps on people's persuit of happiness. It may not matter to a lot of people on this website, but the fact is that myspace is very popular in high school and middle school settings. It's the "cool thing" to have a myspace. I'm sure many of us remember how much crap we delt with in high school because we weren't "in the cool crowd." Restricting myspace is one of those things that would help to further a divide between the cool and uncool, rich and poor, etc.
In my local library the computers can be used for any reason as long as no one else needs to do research. If you are just bs-ing around on the internet because you enjoy the air-conditioning at the library and someone needs to look up some information on the internet then the librarian will ask you to move along. And yeah, I have a friend who didn't have a computer at home, but was able to have an e-mail address and a myspace account and IM accounts because he was able to access those services through the the local library.
I think this legislation is the worst piece of crap to come out of legislature yet. Hopefully something can be done before the Senate can pass this. And if they pass it, maybe Bush will use a signing statement to say that this bill won't be enforced, or he could flat out veto it.
And I don't think that the prevalence of "sexual predators" is so high on these websites. More likely its just horny teens that will do anything with anyone. I believe the problems that do occur on these websites are due to bad parenting and dumb kids. I was taught to not talk to strangers, that's why I don't accept random friend requests from people I don't know. I don't know them, why would I want them as a friend?
Some people need to go to the house to educate the legislatures on the internet, because they obviously have no idea what it is.
Which beta did you run? IE7 beta 2 had a serious problem with ram, that has definitely been mitigated in beta 3. In beta 2 I would end up using upwards of a gig of ram, but now beta 3 is only using about 100 megs, and I've had it running continuously for a few days. Before I restarted my machine it was only using about 400 megs, and that was after about 2 weeks.
My guess on that would be because the internet explorer is used by so many people already, that having them updated to the latest version wouldn't be a problem. And considering that it is much more secure than IE6, it would probably save a lot of money for IT departments and decrease lost productivity due to slow boxex due to spyware and other crap that came in because of IE 6.
The beta is only about 13 megs, so I don't think that it will be too bad a punishment for the users of dialup. I wouldn't expect it to grow to the 70 megs you cited.
Maybe it is possible that developers could start developing now for IE7 using the beta's so that when it does get pushed out to everyone there is a minimal amount of bugs in the programming on websites. Just some food for thought.
I have a lot of friends that are into Settlers and Carcassone, but I would totally prefer monopoly over those games because I like the wads of cash that get passed around.
*Goes off and finds someone to play monopoly with.*
Mr Doom, that comment is pretty unwarranted. The grandparent poster was giving an example of how professional the FBI acted. Why did you feel the need to suddenly tie 9/11 into this?
I had Windows XP and Mac OSX running on my laptop. I decided to add vista beta 2 into the mix. I split the xp partition to handle vista and I proceeded to install vista. I installed it without any problems. And it also left my boot stuff intact so that now I can flawlessly switch between vista, xp, and mac os x. I had no problems with this set up.
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Its ok, he admits to pink ponies, tell me that doesn't entirely fit with slashdot? (April 1st, 2006 anyone?) And yeah, teenage girls think that kind of stuff is "hawt."
Myspace is the website that the current teens go to. Even the "cool" kids have their myspace page that they update and check religiously. It just means that todays geeks have to go farther into geekdom to really be different from the next person. I know of several kids who started learning html just so they could work on their myspace page. Some even have moved into more real computing stuff (studying c++/java/visual basic) because of it. Welcome to the new reality.
Considering that Microsoft dropped support for Windows 98 and ME, I wouldn't expect them to be putting out patches for those operating systems. And I would say Windows XP and Server 2003 are way more secure than 98/ME because of all the patches that have been rolled out for them, and because they come with a built in firewall. Merits of that firewall aside, it is at least something to start with that 98/ME don't have.
I really think it is time for people running those platforms to upgrade to something more modern, just for the reason of security. If they choose a windows platform (includes Intel Macs w/ bootcamp or parallels) then they can use IE7 also.
From the IE7 requirements page it seems it can run on a Pentium 233. So it may be possible to get the browser running on those old systems, even though it says it can only run on XP SP2, XP 64bit, and Win2k3 Server SP1. That or people with those older systems can upgrade to XP or maybe Server 2k3 (I read the other day about someone running it on some extremely slow hardware.) So that could be a choice if they want IE 7.
I'm not sure how well it is supported on Linux brands from the Wine side of things though.
He's probably not talking fud. Btw, It's called "glass." And since most of the graphics work is being offloaded to the graphics card it probably is as responsive as he says, because the CPU is now not being tasked with drawing the desktop, as it was in XP. I'm sure MS numbers are there by marketing to increase sales of hardware.
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He weighs more because all mass underneath him to the surface of the earth on the opposite side is pulling him down.
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I think this is a good idea, someone with mod points mod parent up. This is a good idea. -ed
I was talking about how if I decided to buy a Mac Book pro I would want to have a two button trackpad.
And my gateway comes with two buttons.
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I know you can add a two button mouse, but what is so hard about just making that the default?
Witch looks like a cool program, I'll have to check it out, but still, I wish that was the default behavior to look at each window, not just each app.
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I agree, I was using OS X on my Gateway for a while. And while it was good, some stuff just annoyed the crap out of me. Yeah, I was running on unsupported hardware, but the behavior for alt-tab (mapped as apple-key-tab) was annoying. I like being able to scroll through each window. It bothered me most when I was ssh'ing into the school boxes from mac os and had multipled instances of firefox and emacs running and it was a pain in the butt to figure what was where. Yes, I knew about expose, but even so, I am just so used to alt-tab, which also works in solaris (to my satisfaction.)
I would probably get a macbook pro for the iLife suite, because I haven't yet gotten my sound card working in OS X. (I want garageband.) However, I do not want a machine with only 512mb ram standard. 1gig is the minimum necessary now, especially if I was going to be dualbooting with windows for work.
I also like have the right click button. I don't think I'll ever get used to shift click.
-Ed
Thanks for that information. All I ever see is 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 10 guys is sexually solicted online. I never see anything else that says what the responses are, how many of those happen to be pranks, how many are legit, etc. Needless to say, since most people actually ignore those things, why the need for legislation?
-ed
If the numbers are that high then we have a serious education problem in this country. Why do people treat the internet than any other public place? Don't talk to strangers, etc. If people practice the rules that they live by in normal life we wouldn't have those kind of problems.
People are dumb.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
From the Declaration of Independence. But this ban totally goes against the spirit this country was founded on becaeuse it cramps on people's persuit of happiness. It may not matter to a lot of people on this website, but the fact is that myspace is very popular in high school and middle school settings. It's the "cool thing" to have a myspace. I'm sure many of us remember how much crap we delt with in high school because we weren't "in the cool crowd." Restricting myspace is one of those things that would help to further a divide between the cool and uncool, rich and poor, etc.
-ed
In my local library the computers can be used for any reason as long as no one else needs to do research. If you are just bs-ing around on the internet because you enjoy the air-conditioning at the library and someone needs to look up some information on the internet then the librarian will ask you to move along. And yeah, I have a friend who didn't have a computer at home, but was able to have an e-mail address and a myspace account and IM accounts because he was able to access those services through the the local library.
I think this legislation is the worst piece of crap to come out of legislature yet. Hopefully something can be done before the Senate can pass this. And if they pass it, maybe Bush will use a signing statement to say that this bill won't be enforced, or he could flat out veto it.
And I don't think that the prevalence of "sexual predators" is so high on these websites. More likely its just horny teens that will do anything with anyone. I believe the problems that do occur on these websites are due to bad parenting and dumb kids. I was taught to not talk to strangers, that's why I don't accept random friend requests from people I don't know. I don't know them, why would I want them as a friend?
Some people need to go to the house to educate the legislatures on the internet, because they obviously have no idea what it is.
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The shuttle put the ISS in orbit.
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Which beta did you run? IE7 beta 2 had a serious problem with ram, that has definitely been mitigated in beta 3. In beta 2 I would end up using upwards of a gig of ram, but now beta 3 is only using about 100 megs, and I've had it running continuously for a few days. Before I restarted my machine it was only using about 400 megs, and that was after about 2 weeks.
-ed
My guess on that would be because the internet explorer is used by so many people already, that having them updated to the latest version wouldn't be a problem. And considering that it is much more secure than IE6, it would probably save a lot of money for IT departments and decrease lost productivity due to slow boxex due to spyware and other crap that came in because of IE 6.
-Ed
The beta is only about 13 megs, so I don't think that it will be too bad a punishment for the users of dialup. I wouldn't expect it to grow to the 70 megs you cited.
-Ed
Maybe it is possible that developers could start developing now for IE7 using the beta's so that when it does get pushed out to everyone there is a minimal amount of bugs in the programming on websites. Just some food for thought.
-Ed
Will that pill be red or blue?
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But what does 9/11 have to do with witness tampering? That you have not answered.
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I have a lot of friends that are into Settlers and Carcassone, but I would totally prefer monopoly over those games because I like the wads of cash that get passed around.
*Goes off and finds someone to play monopoly with.*
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Why does "You have the right to remain silent" come into my mind at this moment?
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Mr Doom, that comment is pretty unwarranted. The grandparent poster was giving an example of how professional the FBI acted. Why did you feel the need to suddenly tie 9/11 into this?
-ed
I had Windows XP and Mac OSX running on my laptop. I decided to add vista beta 2 into the mix. I split the xp partition to handle vista and I proceeded to install vista. I installed it without any problems. And it also left my boot stuff intact so that now I can flawlessly switch between vista, xp, and mac os x. I had no problems with this set up. -Ed
Its ok, he admits to pink ponies, tell me that doesn't entirely fit with slashdot? (April 1st, 2006 anyone?) And yeah, teenage girls think that kind of stuff is "hawt."
Myspace is the website that the current teens go to. Even the "cool" kids have their myspace page that they update and check religiously. It just means that todays geeks have to go farther into geekdom to really be different from the next person. I know of several kids who started learning html just so they could work on their myspace page. Some even have moved into more real computing stuff (studying c++/java/visual basic) because of it. Welcome to the new reality.
-Ed
Considering that Microsoft dropped support for Windows 98 and ME, I wouldn't expect them to be putting out patches for those operating systems. And I would say Windows XP and Server 2003 are way more secure than 98/ME because of all the patches that have been rolled out for them, and because they come with a built in firewall. Merits of that firewall aside, it is at least something to start with that 98/ME don't have.
-Ed
I really think it is time for people running those platforms to upgrade to something more modern, just for the reason of security. If they choose a windows platform (includes Intel Macs w/ bootcamp or parallels) then they can use IE7 also.
From the IE7 requirements page it seems it can run on a Pentium 233. So it may be possible to get the browser running on those old systems, even though it says it can only run on XP SP2, XP 64bit, and Win2k3 Server SP1. That or people with those older systems can upgrade to XP or maybe Server 2k3 (I read the other day about someone running it on some extremely slow hardware.) So that could be a choice if they want IE 7.
I'm not sure how well it is supported on Linux brands from the Wine side of things though.
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4.4 PSI happens to be difference in pressure.
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He's probably not talking fud. Btw, It's called "glass." And since most of the graphics work is being offloaded to the graphics card it probably is as responsive as he says, because the CPU is now not being tasked with drawing the desktop, as it was in XP. I'm sure MS numbers are there by marketing to increase sales of hardware.
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