If Canada wants access to US movies and music then they have to play by our rules. If Canada doesn't like the rules then they don't have to follow them. Likewise there is nothing forcing the US movie and music industry to sell in markets that don't follow the rules. Each side is flexing it's rightful position of power. I really don't understand how the whole jingoistic "Get off my lawn America" attitude applies here. The last time I checked there weren't any US tanks rolling through Canadian streets.
If you've got better ideas of how the US should handle foreign policy then immigrate here, vote, perhaps run for public office. We have no shortage of people spouting what we should and shouldn't do. What we have a shortage of is people that do more than just talk.
I hope you don't think those imaginary lines on the globe actually separate the US from the rest of the world. There is no possible way the US could just seal itself off from outside influence and interaction. Like it or not we are all in this together.
How come every argument people have made is regarding the "morbidly obese"? There are other kinds of fat people you know. Those that have love handles and man boobs. Their only crime is not looking good in a bathing suit and sweating in air conditioning. This was never about me but just to avoid the ad hominem attacks let me state for the record that I'm not fat. I fly first class as well so there is plenty of room in the seat.
When you lump all fat people together or lump all black people together you're doing so based on some arbitrary physical characteristic. Please don't tell me that black people can't bleach their skin and fat people can't choose to get liposuction and tummy tucks. Both are just as much choice as they are fate, regardless of the practicalities.
A black guy mugging you or a fat guy crowding you on a train are both negative occurrences. Would you think bad of all black people for the actions of one mugger? Then why should you treat any other group differently? If someone is invading your personal space then move away, do something about it.
A lot of the commentators like yourself are going off the deep end, especially regarding the phrase "get it the worse". No I'm not saying fat people are more persecuted than group X. I have no desire to compare immeasurable concepts. I'm saying that as a demographic, fat people have the least amount of credibility. It's so easy for everyone to dismiss them. Just like you're doing.
Also, your weak mind mixes up "Your" and "You're." Glass houses....
Haha, you just owned yourself! Right before your idiotic statement of "your" vs. "you're", you make the very same mistake you falsely claim that I made. I never made that mistake but you just did. Work on your reading comprehension then go back and read what I wrote again. You'll see that I'm correct.
You tried to turn the "weak mind" comment around but you failed and only showed yourself to be an even bigger moron than you originally appeared. It just doesn't get any better than this. I can understand why you're an anonymous coward now. You'd have to create a new login out of embarrassment at least once a week.
I was just going to ignore you as an obvious troll but since someone felt like wasting mod points on you I'll bite.
Should we ban all of the anti-drug commercials because they may hurt some pot head's feelings?
I didn't say we should ban anything. Stop talking out of your ass.
You get asked where the nearest Burger King is. Go eat a twinky, tub-o.
The only person trivializing anything is you. Your ignorant and insulting closing statements prove my point exactly. Obviously your weak mind couldn't come up with anything better so you resort to typical bigotry. Your view that being fat is a negative shows that you are incapable of understanding any viewpoint other than your own. Some people don't care that they are fat but they do care that cowards like you attack their obvious flaws just to make themselves feel better.
The intent behind calling someone a nigger or a fatass is just the same. It's ignorant hatred based on some physical characteristic. It doesn't matter what kind of rationalizing you did to get there. It does not change the fact that it is bigotry. Please don't reproduce.
I'd call him a security researcher trying to exploit the name of a corporation that is currently popular to inflate his own value.
Apple already did that more than he could ever hope of by making such a big stink over it. It's funny how that always backfires on people. But go ahead and make your ad hominem argument. Maybe in the future he will be wise to only disclose vulnerabilities in software owned by companies that won't pitch a hissy fit and make him famous.
It's hard to believe that you don't find Maynor's "I can do that, I just don't feel like it" argument fishy at all.
What the hell are you talking about?! Whether or not he can do it is not the issue! Apple has admitted that it is possible.
Here is TFA if you are too lazy to actually read it. Hell, since you like putting things in bold I'll help you out...
Impact: Attackers on the wireless network may cause arbitrary code execution
No no. That's not the bug Maynor was talking about, this is a different Wi-Fi remote code execution bug. Completely unrelated. Apple even pinky sweared.
So did you have anything to add or were you just going to rehash and repeat the GGP?
Like I said, it doesn't matter what he does now. The patch is released, anyone could reverse engineer it. It doesn't add to his creditability but it doesn't remove from it either. Regardless of how you want to spin it.
Which is the more reasonable culprit? A huge company with known problematic disclosure practices trying to keep its stock up or some guy trying to keep his pride. Both are reasonable. It's just that one has history of occurrences and the other doesn't.
You obviously know very little about exploits. If the bug allows remote code execution, which Apple plainly states is possible, the difference in a crash and a hijack is only a matter of a few bytes of shell code. So in essence he has done the hardest part already. Then you come along and claim that since he didn't take it all the way and give you the final easiest 1%, now he's a complete fraud and a liar.
Even if he had demonstrated the original takeover that still wouldn't prove his story. Yet you claim that because of this it makes him look guilty. Nice logic. Basically, either way you get to claim he's full of shit.
Many major vendors have a known history for screwing over vulnerability researchers such as Cisco, Apple, Microsoft and others. I just have a hard time believing this is any different.
A good Windows admin has a router, firewall, anti-virus, automatic updates and a 3rd party browser. If that's not a good argument against the thousands of Windows zombies out there then it's not a good argument for you either.
He doesn't need to "takeover" the MacBook. Apple has already verified that the bug leads to remote code execution. Do you need a signed affidavit from Apple? Obviously if he can trigger it to crash, he can get it to do what Apple has already admitted that it can do!
Fat people get it the worst. No other group of people are so easily attacked and mocked. Most people wouldn't dare say "look how black that guy is!" for fear of being labeled a racist. However, very few of the same people would have any problem saying "look how fat that guy is!". Calling someone a nigger, faggot or fatass are all in the same group of insults. They are insults designed to hurt someone by mocking their differences. Yet somehow we all let that last one just slide by.
We accept each others differences when it comes to race, religion, sexuality but since being fat is "unhealthy" then it's unacceptable. I call bullshit on that. There are no special exceptions when it comes to bigotry.
But I'm not telling anyone what to do, just making an observation.
You can't do mouse chords with 1 button. My favorite Opera mouse gesture is right then left click to go back.
If you want to get technical about it all I need the mouse to do is move the cursor around. I could use the keyboard to click. However, what would be the point? Better yet, how could either of us argue which is "perfect". Be careful when slinging absolutes around.
This was modded insightful? This is the "perfect" example of fanboy behavior. One zealot makes a broad sweeping claim that nobody in their right mind would dare to make and then another comes along and mods him insightful. Only a self-delusional fool would think perfection is attainable and there is nothing insightful about deluding yourself.
Also people should remember that when you compare OS X to Vista you are comparing a complete hardware and software platform to just a software platform running on commodity hardware. Of course OS X is going to run smooth on hardware it was specifically geared for. Expecting the same with some 3 year old PC that you upgraded to Vista probably won't cut it. Why would you want to anyways?
I built a PC from parts and I spent about the same price I would for a baseline Mac Pro. However, I have a QX6700 quad core with 4GB ram and 2 8800GTS in SLI. Let me tell you, nothing on this beast is sluggish.
I hope no one from Sprint is paying attention but using a PPC-6700 on a plan with unlimited data access but no extra "modem tethering" plan it's still possible to use your phone as a dial-up modem. This frees you up to use your laptop on the internet anywhere in their coverage area without an extra card or extra cost. Nothing beats a full size browser with Javascript. Verizon sells the same phone as the VX6700 but from what I hear they had a firmware update that "fixed" it.
You're kidding right? Dell support is laughable. If you call them you better be ready to tell them what the problem is, how to fix it, the part number and the extension of the warehouse that has said part number in stock.
The only reason they aren't drowning in support calls already (which is debatable) is because Windows has excellent hardware support and most families have a computer person they turn to before waiting a half hour on hold.
I feel sorry any first-time Linux users that get burned by Dell and look at Linux as too confusing and unreliable in the future.
I use Reason so I agree with you there. However, Reason is a ground breaking program. It's a replacement for a rack full of hardware. I think more that Reason is simply outstanding rather than OSS failed. There are still plenty of ways to create music on Linux. Not everyone needs to have the Timbaland studio setup to be creative. Especially when Timbaland is ripping off songs from the demo scene anyways. An OSS version of Reason would be a "killer app" though!
How do you define cheap? I sell software for $5 and people still pirate it. How much do you think I get out of that after payment processing, web hosting and taxes? Should I just have a version where I mail them $1 because that's about the only way I could make less money. Yes I know you were talking about fortune 1000 companies but the laws apply to us peons too.
Yea and when there is no money to be made from human creativity all those creative people will have to find another source of income perhaps completely abandoning their dreams. It's strange to want to share art with everyone but treat the artists so sadistically.
Copyright enforcement regimes don't manufacture wealth. They actually prevent its creation by forcing others to do without needlessly.
Are you actually suggesting that software companies should give out software for free to those that "can't afford it"? How is said company supposed to determine that? Force everyone to send in their tax returns? Do you honestly expect a company to spend extra money just so it can give a free ride to people that can't afford to pay?
Also are you implying that since Joe Sixpack can't afford Photoshop, he's missing out on his opportunity to make money from image editing? What about GIMP and other OSS solutions? Can you actually name some commercial software that doesn't have an OSS counterpart?
When you say "copyright regime" remember that you are talking about mom and pop software developers too.
You hit the nail on the head buddy. A long time ago I figured out that there are 2 kinds of people. Those that are willing to pay for software and those that aren't. No amount of threats, begging or trickery is going to make a dent in changing the ratio of those 2 groups. The only thing you can do is help prevent those that are willing to pay from bypassing you and getting it for free.
That is the only sane reason for any kind of copy protection. It must be done so as to make getting a free version more trouble than getting the legal paid version. You must put your paying customers on a pedestal above the pirates. If you treat them like criminals you may find them becoming more like them everyday.
I know several groups of software crackers and I understand the mentality behind them. They crack software because it's a challenge and there is some pride to be had. The last thing you want to do is piss them off or give them any room to think they are "doing the right thing". Yes piracy stings as a software developer but as long as you are making money it shouldn't sting enough for you to scorn your customers.
But go ahead make the customers into criminals and the pirates into heroes. Then when you have zero user base you'll finally realize where you went wrong.
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If Canada wants access to US movies and music then they have to play by our rules. If Canada doesn't like the rules then they don't have to follow them. Likewise there is nothing forcing the US movie and music industry to sell in markets that don't follow the rules. Each side is flexing it's rightful position of power. I really don't understand how the whole jingoistic "Get off my lawn America" attitude applies here. The last time I checked there weren't any US tanks rolling through Canadian streets.
If you've got better ideas of how the US should handle foreign policy then immigrate here, vote, perhaps run for public office. We have no shortage of people spouting what we should and shouldn't do. What we have a shortage of is people that do more than just talk.
I hope you don't think those imaginary lines on the globe actually separate the US from the rest of the world. There is no possible way the US could just seal itself off from outside influence and interaction. Like it or not we are all in this together.
How come every argument people have made is regarding the "morbidly obese"? There are other kinds of fat people you know. Those that have love handles and man boobs. Their only crime is not looking good in a bathing suit and sweating in air conditioning. This was never about me but just to avoid the ad hominem attacks let me state for the record that I'm not fat. I fly first class as well so there is plenty of room in the seat.
When you lump all fat people together or lump all black people together you're doing so based on some arbitrary physical characteristic. Please don't tell me that black people can't bleach their skin and fat people can't choose to get liposuction and tummy tucks. Both are just as much choice as they are fate, regardless of the practicalities.
A black guy mugging you or a fat guy crowding you on a train are both negative occurrences. Would you think bad of all black people for the actions of one mugger? Then why should you treat any other group differently? If someone is invading your personal space then move away, do something about it.
A lot of the commentators like yourself are going off the deep end, especially regarding the phrase "get it the worse". No I'm not saying fat people are more persecuted than group X. I have no desire to compare immeasurable concepts. I'm saying that as a demographic, fat people have the least amount of credibility. It's so easy for everyone to dismiss them. Just like you're doing.
It is nice to see PC architecture has finally caught up with Amiga.
It's nice to see you've finally caught up with all the people that have made an Amiga comment.
However, the moment it affects me, it becomes my problem. When he visits, we have to make all sorts of special accommodations for him.
Your problem is that you are afraid to tell your brother-in-law he can't come over for a visit.
You're argument is weak at best.
Also, your weak mind mixes up "Your" and "You're." Glass houses....
Haha, you just owned yourself! Right before your idiotic statement of "your" vs. "you're", you make the very same mistake you falsely claim that I made. I never made that mistake but you just did. Work on your reading comprehension then go back and read what I wrote again. You'll see that I'm correct.
You tried to turn the "weak mind" comment around but you failed and only showed yourself to be an even bigger moron than you originally appeared. It just doesn't get any better than this. I can understand why you're an anonymous coward now. You'd have to create a new login out of embarrassment at least once a week.
Better luck next time.
I was just going to ignore you as an obvious troll but since someone felt like wasting mod points on you I'll bite.
Should we ban all of the anti-drug commercials because they may hurt some pot head's feelings?
I didn't say we should ban anything. Stop talking out of your ass.
You get asked where the nearest Burger King is. Go eat a twinky, tub-o.
The only person trivializing anything is you. Your ignorant and insulting closing statements prove my point exactly. Obviously your weak mind couldn't come up with anything better so you resort to typical bigotry. Your view that being fat is a negative shows that you are incapable of understanding any viewpoint other than your own. Some people don't care that they are fat but they do care that cowards like you attack their obvious flaws just to make themselves feel better.
The intent behind calling someone a nigger or a fatass is just the same. It's ignorant hatred based on some physical characteristic. It doesn't matter what kind of rationalizing you did to get there. It does not change the fact that it is bigotry. Please don't reproduce.
I'd call him a security researcher trying to exploit the name of a corporation that is currently popular to inflate his own value.
Apple already did that more than he could ever hope of by making such a big stink over it. It's funny how that always backfires on people. But go ahead and make your ad hominem argument. Maybe in the future he will be wise to only disclose vulnerabilities in software owned by companies that won't pitch a hissy fit and make him famous.
It's hard to believe that you don't find Maynor's "I can do that, I just don't feel like it" argument fishy at all.
What the hell are you talking about?! Whether or not he can do it is not the issue! Apple has admitted that it is possible.
Here is TFA if you are too lazy to actually read it. Hell, since you like putting things in bold I'll help you out...
Impact: Attackers on the wireless network may cause arbitrary code execution
No no. That's not the bug Maynor was talking about, this is a different Wi-Fi remote code execution bug. Completely unrelated. Apple even pinky sweared.
So did you have anything to add or were you just going to rehash and repeat the GGP?
Like I said, it doesn't matter what he does now. The patch is released, anyone could reverse engineer it. It doesn't add to his creditability but it doesn't remove from it either. Regardless of how you want to spin it.
Which is the more reasonable culprit? A huge company with known problematic disclosure practices trying to keep its stock up or some guy trying to keep his pride. Both are reasonable. It's just that one has history of occurrences and the other doesn't.
You obviously know very little about exploits. If the bug allows remote code execution, which Apple plainly states is possible, the difference in a crash and a hijack is only a matter of a few bytes of shell code. So in essence he has done the hardest part already. Then you come along and claim that since he didn't take it all the way and give you the final easiest 1%, now he's a complete fraud and a liar.
Even if he had demonstrated the original takeover that still wouldn't prove his story. Yet you claim that because of this it makes him look guilty. Nice logic. Basically, either way you get to claim he's full of shit.
Many major vendors have a known history for screwing over vulnerability researchers such as Cisco, Apple, Microsoft and others. I just have a hard time believing this is any different.
A homosexual can choose not to put a penis in his mouth.
Seriously, if you think having gay sex is somehow more compulsory than overeating, you're an idiot.
Both are choices.
A good Windows admin has a router, firewall, anti-virus, automatic updates and a 3rd party browser. If that's not a good argument against the thousands of Windows zombies out there then it's not a good argument for you either.
He doesn't need to "takeover" the MacBook. Apple has already verified that the bug leads to remote code execution. Do you need a signed affidavit from Apple? Obviously if he can trigger it to crash, he can get it to do what Apple has already admitted that it can do!
Fat people get it the worst. No other group of people are so easily attacked and mocked. Most people wouldn't dare say "look how black that guy is!" for fear of being labeled a racist. However, very few of the same people would have any problem saying "look how fat that guy is!". Calling someone a nigger, faggot or fatass are all in the same group of insults. They are insults designed to hurt someone by mocking their differences. Yet somehow we all let that last one just slide by.
We accept each others differences when it comes to race, religion, sexuality but since being fat is "unhealthy" then it's unacceptable. I call bullshit on that. There are no special exceptions when it comes to bigotry.
But I'm not telling anyone what to do, just making an observation.
You can't do mouse chords with 1 button. My favorite Opera mouse gesture is right then left click to go back.
If you want to get technical about it all I need the mouse to do is move the cursor around. I could use the keyboard to click. However, what would be the point? Better yet, how could either of us argue which is "perfect". Be careful when slinging absolutes around.
The ENTIRE OS works perfectly. Everything.
This was modded insightful? This is the "perfect" example of fanboy behavior. One zealot makes a broad sweeping claim that nobody in their right mind would dare to make and then another comes along and mods him insightful. Only a self-delusional fool would think perfection is attainable and there is nothing insightful about deluding yourself.
Also people should remember that when you compare OS X to Vista you are comparing a complete hardware and software platform to just a software platform running on commodity hardware. Of course OS X is going to run smooth on hardware it was specifically geared for. Expecting the same with some 3 year old PC that you upgraded to Vista probably won't cut it. Why would you want to anyways?
I built a PC from parts and I spent about the same price I would for a baseline Mac Pro. However, I have a QX6700 quad core with 4GB ram and 2 8800GTS in SLI. Let me tell you, nothing on this beast is sluggish.
I hope no one from Sprint is paying attention but using a PPC-6700 on a plan with unlimited data access but no extra "modem tethering" plan it's still possible to use your phone as a dial-up modem. This frees you up to use your laptop on the internet anywhere in their coverage area without an extra card or extra cost. Nothing beats a full size browser with Javascript. Verizon sells the same phone as the VX6700 but from what I hear they had a firmware update that "fixed" it.
You're kidding right? Dell support is laughable. If you call them you better be ready to tell them what the problem is, how to fix it, the part number and the extension of the warehouse that has said part number in stock.
The only reason they aren't drowning in support calls already (which is debatable) is because Windows has excellent hardware support and most families have a computer person they turn to before waiting a half hour on hold.
I feel sorry any first-time Linux users that get burned by Dell and look at Linux as too confusing and unreliable in the future.
First thing that popped into my head was the sound of a Prism Tank blast followed by AAAHHHHH!
I use Reason so I agree with you there. However, Reason is a ground breaking program. It's a replacement for a rack full of hardware. I think more that Reason is simply outstanding rather than OSS failed. There are still plenty of ways to create music on Linux. Not everyone needs to have the Timbaland studio setup to be creative. Especially when Timbaland is ripping off songs from the demo scene anyways. An OSS version of Reason would be a "killer app" though!
How do you define cheap? I sell software for $5 and people still pirate it. How much do you think I get out of that after payment processing, web hosting and taxes? Should I just have a version where I mail them $1 because that's about the only way I could make less money. Yes I know you were talking about fortune 1000 companies but the laws apply to us peons too.
Yea and when there is no money to be made from human creativity all those creative people will have to find another source of income perhaps completely abandoning their dreams. It's strange to want to share art with everyone but treat the artists so sadistically.
Copyright enforcement regimes don't manufacture wealth. They actually prevent its creation by forcing others to do without needlessly.
Are you actually suggesting that software companies should give out software for free to those that "can't afford it"? How is said company supposed to determine that? Force everyone to send in their tax returns? Do you honestly expect a company to spend extra money just so it can give a free ride to people that can't afford to pay?
Also are you implying that since Joe Sixpack can't afford Photoshop, he's missing out on his opportunity to make money from image editing? What about GIMP and other OSS solutions? Can you actually name some commercial software that doesn't have an OSS counterpart?
When you say "copyright regime" remember that you are talking about mom and pop software developers too.
You hit the nail on the head buddy. A long time ago I figured out that there are 2 kinds of people. Those that are willing to pay for software and those that aren't. No amount of threats, begging or trickery is going to make a dent in changing the ratio of those 2 groups. The only thing you can do is help prevent those that are willing to pay from bypassing you and getting it for free.
That is the only sane reason for any kind of copy protection. It must be done so as to make getting a free version more trouble than getting the legal paid version. You must put your paying customers on a pedestal above the pirates. If you treat them like criminals you may find them becoming more like them everyday.
I know several groups of software crackers and I understand the mentality behind them. They crack software because it's a challenge and there is some pride to be had. The last thing you want to do is piss them off or give them any room to think they are "doing the right thing". Yes piracy stings as a software developer but as long as you are making money it shouldn't sting enough for you to scorn your customers.
But go ahead make the customers into criminals and the pirates into heroes. Then when you have zero user base you'll finally realize where you went wrong.