Yes. I bought this laptop I'm using a couple of months ago. It dual-boots Win7 and openSUSE 12.1, both of which I installed myself.
Boot the disk, answer a couple of questions, the installer does the rest...
First question: Does it have all your device drivers?
essentially imaging the system to a clean install for a computer that doesn't have Windows installed.
With none of those applications you go on about.
Linux in orders of magnitude more difficult to install...
With apologies to any equines who may be in the audience, that's complete and utter horseshit. To quote your own fine self, installing a modern Linux distro is a case of "Boot the disk, answer a couple of questions, the installer does the rest".
...not to mention all the 0.x unfinished apps for supposed Windows app substitutes.
What Windows apps? You mean the apps *for* Windows that don't actually *come* with Windows that you have to find (and possibly *buy*) and install separately? As opposed to the hundreds (thousands?) of perfectly usable apps available in any halfway respectable Linux distro that you can load as part of the OS installation?
BTW, the installation of Windows 7 Pro and about a dozen applications which had to be obtained and installed separately (following the OS installation) took almost exactly *twice* as long as as the openSUSE installation, which provided *everything* I need for both personal and work use with just 2 exceptions--Skype, and a proprietary app we use at work.
Oh, and let's not forget cost: the Windows 7 Pro OEM DVD (English) ran me about 1350 SEK (call it US$200); the blank CD on which I burned the Linux network installer was about a dollar and a half (~10 SEK).
TL;DR: Windows took twice as much time to install, cost me 200 times as much money, and provided about 10% of the software.
So... You are badly misinformed, deluded, or just plain lying. I'd say it's a bit of all 3.
What is it with you guys, anyway, that you find Linux so threatening that you have to resort to spewing garbage like this about it?
It's not funny when it gives people who know better a headache.
-[e]th is used for the third person singular form of verbs, and nothing else. It's the older form of the -[e]s ending for verbs. It is never correct to use it for plural nouns. (Although, if you want to go all the way back to Anglo-Saxon, it was used there for the dual form that survives in today's "both".)
And the correct form of the last bit is "Woe is me". "Me" in this case is actually dative case (indirect object). Normally we use the preposition "to" to indicate this, but in some constructions it's omitted, as in "He gave me the ball". "Woe is [to] me" is a direct cognate of the German Weh ist mir.
BTW, the plural of "thou" is... *drum roll*... "you".
Besides Moral reasons, they only reason why the US doesn't just Nuke the rest of the world, is because they offer things that could benefit us more then the benefit of nuking the rest of the world.
And the fact that there are at least a couple of them that could nuke the US right back.
He didn't say that Android phones can't work with keyboards, he said that most Android phones that come with keyboards are not that great--a distinction which you seem to have missed.
He also that BB's users are going to expect a good phone with a good built-in keyboard--a point which you also seem to have missed.
The joke's on the GP, since mcgrew didn't even respond to the first post, but rather to the second one.
(And the Off-Topic mods he's drawn are completely without merit, since his post was very much on topic; GP's Insightful mods are baseless. Both are clearly signs of mod-bombing. I hope some honest folks with mod points will rectify these abuses soon.)
I use VMWare almost every single day on a Linux host that employs the Nouveau drivers, and it works fine. KDE 4 desktop on the host, a bit of eye candy.
If you're trying to use the Nouveau (or even the proprietary) drivers *inside* a VMware guest, that's just silly, and I really hope that's not what you meant.
They sure spell Tooheys oddly in QLD, don't they, mate?:D
(The poster is otherwise correct. True Australian Fact: "Fosters" is derived from an old Aboriginal word that means, roughly, "Roo piss that we sell to people who live too far away to throw the bottles back at us.")
In fairness, can you imagine someone of Powell's intelligence, experience, level-headedness, and integrity backing the suicide--er, McCain-Palin--ticket?
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Nice try, but the breaching of the kernel.org website had no bearing on the integrity of the kernel sources.
Ever install Vista or Win7?
Yes. I bought this laptop I'm using a couple of months ago. It dual-boots Win7 and openSUSE 12.1, both of which I installed myself.
Boot the disk, answer a couple of questions, the installer does the rest...
First question: Does it have all your device drivers?
essentially imaging the system to a clean install for a computer that doesn't have Windows installed.
With none of those applications you go on about.
Linux in orders of magnitude more difficult to install...
With apologies to any equines who may be in the audience, that's complete and utter horseshit. To quote your own fine self, installing a modern Linux distro is a case of "Boot the disk, answer a couple of questions, the installer does the rest".
...not to mention all the 0.x unfinished apps for supposed Windows app substitutes.
What Windows apps? You mean the apps *for* Windows that don't actually *come* with Windows that you have to find (and possibly *buy*) and install separately? As opposed to the hundreds (thousands?) of perfectly usable apps available in any halfway respectable Linux distro that you can load as part of the OS installation?
BTW, the installation of Windows 7 Pro and about a dozen applications which had to be obtained and installed separately (following the OS installation) took almost exactly *twice* as long as as the openSUSE installation, which provided *everything* I need for both personal and work use with just 2 exceptions--Skype, and a proprietary app we use at work.
Oh, and let's not forget cost: the Windows 7 Pro OEM DVD (English) ran me about 1350 SEK (call it US$200); the blank CD on which I burned the Linux network installer was about a dollar and a half (~10 SEK).
TL;DR: Windows took twice as much time to install, cost me 200 times as much money, and provided about 10% of the software.
So... You are badly misinformed, deluded, or just plain lying. I'd say it's a bit of all 3.
What is it with you guys, anyway, that you find Linux so threatening that you have to resort to spewing garbage like this about it?
Fine, let's see what the dictionary says:
Examples of BIRTH ...
the birth of the solar system
the birth of the blues
We are witnessing the birth of a new era.
I have some hoisin sauce in the fridge, might make that crow go down a little better.
You've got ZAXXON?!
I'm coming over to your house right now.
Guess what? This story is not about you, or your attention-seeking behaviour.
Please go die in a fire. (Or at least grow the fuck up.)
Thank you.
I learned Pascal on one.
No reason why someone couldn't do the same today.
Gee, cosmologists like this one have been using those very words to describe stellar creation and destruction for 75 years or more.
But they're just scientists, so what the heck do they know, anyway?
i could not access slashdot at all from home for years..
"...And nothing of value was lost."
(You must be really great fun at parties.)
It's not funny when it gives people who know better a headache.
-[e]th is used for the third person singular form of verbs, and nothing else. It's the older form of the -[e]s ending for verbs. It is never correct to use it for plural nouns. (Although, if you want to go all the way back to Anglo-Saxon, it was used there for the dual form that survives in today's "both".)
"I go" ... "thou goest"... "he goeth" or "he goes"
Thank you!
And the correct form of the last bit is "Woe is me". "Me" in this case is actually dative case (indirect object). Normally we use the preposition "to" to indicate this, but in some constructions it's omitted, as in "He gave me the ball". "Woe is [to] me" is a direct cognate of the German Weh ist mir.
BTW, the plural of "thou" is... *drum roll*... "you".
...they [India] have neighbors nearby with a much higher standard of living,
Um... No. Not really.
In fact, that's simply not the case at all.
Besides Moral reasons, they only reason why the US doesn't just Nuke the rest of the world, is because they offer things that could benefit us more then the benefit of nuking the rest of the world.
And the fact that there are at least a couple of them that could nuke the US right back.
He didn't say that Android phones can't work with keyboards, he said that most Android phones that come with keyboards are not that great--a distinction which you seem to have missed.
He also that BB's users are going to expect a good phone with a good built-in keyboard--a point which you also seem to have missed.
But thanks for playing, anyway.
Crap. s/VMware/VirtualBox/
(I do NOT use VMware. There being little point in doing so when VBox is free as in beer AND in speech and just plain works better.)
Not bad, but you're forgetting that accessories are key.
For starters, I suggest a riding crop, a Persian cat, and a vaguely Eastern European accent.
The joke's on the GP, since mcgrew didn't even respond to the first post, but rather to the second one.
(And the Off-Topic mods he's drawn are completely without merit, since his post was very much on topic; GP's Insightful mods are baseless. Both are clearly signs of mod-bombing. I hope some honest folks with mod points will rectify these abuses soon.)
I use VMWare almost every single day on a Linux host that employs the Nouveau drivers, and it works fine. KDE 4 desktop on the host, a bit of eye candy.
If you're trying to use the Nouveau (or even the proprietary) drivers *inside* a VMware guest, that's just silly, and I really hope that's not what you meant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8_FOQ7-P30
In fairness, I think we're done here.
He should be drinking XXXX Gold in Queensland!
They sure spell Tooheys oddly in QLD, don't they, mate? :D
(The poster is otherwise correct. True Australian Fact: "Fosters" is derived from an old Aboriginal word that means, roughly, "Roo piss that we sell to people who live too far away to throw the bottles back at us.")
That only took about 17 and a half minutes longer to pop up than I would have expected...
Doesn't quite have the ring of "sharks with frickin' laser beams", but the effort is appreciated.
In fairness, can you imagine someone of Powell's intelligence, experience, level-headedness, and integrity backing the suicide--er, McCain-Palin--ticket?
So everything, everywhere is owned by somebody?
That would be funny, except that people like you actually seem to believe it.
-1, Umpty-umpth Chewbacca defence joke.