I don't trust people who are not intelligent enough to use a computer to be informed enough to vote in my jurisdiction.
Not to mention the candidates. However, it poses one significant abuse vector: you can't predict the number of votes by counting the people who show up anymore.
How do we know there weren't more votes for the losing candidate?
For Paks, there is a big one: it was built to benefit the people and the state-owned industry, not investors, and their prices were controlled accordingly. Had it been a private enterprise, it would have paid off big time by now.
In a broader sense, it has paid off, with cheaper products from the also state-owned factories, and a higher standard of living for an entire country (it was built in a big push to get electricity everywhere). I think that's worth more than some numbers reported yearly.
This means it was built with the Hungarian people's taxes. It's easy to turn a profit when someone else is footing your capital-cost bills, which are especially high for nuclear power plants.
Don't forget that Hungary would be much worse off if we had to provide that 44% of electricity we use, from other sources. There's a reason we built it in the first place.
And don't tell me it's impossible to come up with a more cost-effective solution than 70's era soviet technology.
I don't think it's fair to compare yourself to all countries on Earth, when some of those are in a mess precisely because of you. Start small, like, say, Europe.
I can come in there ILLEGALLY and move all over EU and not have a SINGLE ISSUE WITH JOBS or housing?
This discussion is not about jobs and housing. But once you are within the Schengen borders, you can move freely. There is no guard at the Germany-Italy border. And there's certainly no fingerprint analysis involved.
Why not just let them leave? And bar them when they try to come back.
Apparently, they already failed at that once. I don't understand this move, but once again it's clear that the US borders are not a privacy dream. Next up: state borders and continental air travel?
INterestng to note thatb the same evidence to convict him could be used to convicet any model rocket enthusiast.
Really? So, why does a rocket model enthusiast have a fake passport, and how do they know about al-Qaida before 9/11?
At the U.S. port of entry, upon noticing that he appeared nervous, Customs officers inspected him more closely and asked for further identification. Ressam panicked and attempted to flee. Customs officials then found a legitimate Canadian passport Ressam had registered under a fake name,[2]nitroglycerin, the phone number of Abdel Ghani[8] and four timing devices concealed in a spare tire well of his rented car.
Ressam began cooperating with investigators in 2001, and revealed that al-Qaida sleeper cells existed within the United States. This information was included in the famous President's Daily Brief delivered to President George W. Bush on August 6, 2001, entitled Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US.
Unless the hackers got fake "classified" information only on display so they stop trying to get the real stuff, what the public knows probably doesn't matter much.
Article 5 1. The articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on European Union and of the Treaty establishing the European Community, as amended by this Treaty, shall be renumbered in accordance with the tables of equivalences set out in the Annex to this Treaty, and which form an integral part of this Treaty. 2. The cross-references to the articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on European Union and of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, as well as between them, shall be adapted pursuant to paragraph 1 and the references to paragraphs of the said articles as renumbered or re-ordered by the provisions of this Treaty shall be adapted in accordance with those provisions. References to the articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on European Union and of the Treaty establishing the European Community contained in the other treaties and acts of primary legislation on which the Union is founded shall be adapted pursuant to paragraph 1 of this Article. References to recitals of the Treaty on European Union or to paragraphs or articles of the Treaty on European Union or of the Treaty establishing the European Community as renumbered or re-arranged by the provisions of this Treaty shall be adapted pursuant to this latter. Such adaptations shall, where necessary, also apply in the event that the provision in question has been repealed. 3. The references to the recitals, articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on European Union and of the Treaty establishing the European Community, as amended by this Treaty, contained in other instruments or acts shall be understood as referring to the recitals, articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of those Treaties as renumbered pursuant to paragraph 1 and, respectively, to the paragraphs of the said articles, as renumbered or re-arranged by certain provisions of this Treaty.
Would you be so proud of your founding fathers if they signed this?
Anyway, I'm out of there, watching the debacle from the outside. Wait, I'm in the UK. Oh noes! I will have to move countries again!
Make a trip to Ireland and thank everyone you meet for voting down the Lisbon Treaty. Right now, they're the only ones stopping the bureaucratic machine.
Hungary got warnings about banning gene-modified crops. Fortunately, we were not the only ones to do so, and for good reason.
See here for some details. Also, I was told the corn in question was modified to protect itself from a bug not found in Central Europe, yet they still wanted to force it on us.
That's a really good question. I'm guessing there's something for this in those 10000+ pages of international treaties that form the EU.
What's interesting though, that this is the only law they react so harshly to. They usually warn a couple of times, prod gently, give deadlines, give more deadlines, and not take it to court without warning. Of course those are laws not directly related to their emerging police state.
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Aren't all the ODF documents just XML documents?
No, they're compressed XML documents.
How much does Open Office have to pay for each download?
If this ruling stands for them too, still nothing. They just won't let you download in the US. Free Software has no jurisdiction.
I don't trust people who are not intelligent enough to use a computer to be informed enough to vote in my jurisdiction.
Not to mention the candidates. However, it poses one significant abuse vector: you can't predict the number of votes by counting the people who show up anymore.
How do we know there weren't more votes for the losing candidate?
Let's solve this the Open Source way. When's the first GPL'd fork coming out?
I found no good sources for the hidden costs
For Paks, there is a big one: it was built to benefit the people and the state-owned industry, not investors, and their prices were controlled accordingly. Had it been a private enterprise, it would have paid off big time by now.
In a broader sense, it has paid off, with cheaper products from the also state-owned factories, and a higher standard of living for an entire country (it was built in a big push to get electricity everywhere). I think that's worth more than some numbers reported yearly.
This means it was built with the Hungarian people's taxes. It's easy to turn a profit when someone else is footing your capital-cost bills, which are especially high for nuclear power plants.
Don't forget that Hungary would be much worse off if we had to provide that 44% of electricity we use, from other sources. There's a reason we built it in the first place.
And don't tell me it's impossible to come up with a more cost-effective solution than 70's era soviet technology.
And bear in mind, that no nuclear fission power station turns a profit. Not one.
How about this one?
First, we are still better than most nations
I don't think it's fair to compare yourself to all countries on Earth, when some of those are in a mess precisely because of you. Start small, like, say, Europe.
I can come in there ILLEGALLY and move all over EU and not have a SINGLE ISSUE WITH JOBS or housing?
This discussion is not about jobs and housing. But once you are within the Schengen borders, you can move freely. There is no guard at the Germany-Italy border. And there's certainly no fingerprint analysis involved.
Why not just let them leave? And bar them when they try to come back.
Apparently, they already failed at that once. I don't understand this move, but once again it's clear that the US borders are not a privacy dream. Next up: state borders and continental air travel?
I'm so glad I'm not American.
INterestng to note thatb the same evidence to convict him could be used to convicet any model rocket enthusiast.
Really? So, why does a rocket model enthusiast have a fake passport, and how do they know about al-Qaida before 9/11?
At the U.S. port of entry, upon noticing that he appeared nervous, Customs officers inspected him more closely and asked for further identification. Ressam panicked and attempted to flee. Customs officials then found a legitimate Canadian passport Ressam had registered under a fake name,[2]nitroglycerin, the phone number of Abdel Ghani[8] and four timing devices concealed in a spare tire well of his rented car.
Ressam began cooperating with investigators in 2001, and revealed that al-Qaida sleeper cells existed within the United States. This information was included in the famous President's Daily Brief delivered to President George W. Bush on August 6, 2001, entitled Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US.
This is the official story, of course, but still.
Unless the hackers got fake "classified" information only on display so they stop trying to get the real stuff, what the public knows probably doesn't matter much.
Make the client Windows-only again and you'll feel my wrath!
(Reply by Google: We know where you live. )
Fixed that for you.
Then they find the winning bid (which isn't the cheapest) but is a perfect match to the requirements.
In Hungary, the winning bid is usually the one who contributes the most back to the party in power.
It's not the first time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Copyright
I love the double standard: when we do it, we're filthy thieving pirates, if they do it, it's "just an oversight".
Why don't you just leave Microsoft alone, after everything it's been through!
They're still convicted on anti-trust laws and they're still in business, that's why.
allowing a dangerous wanted person in the country, just because he was sick
You know, if they diagnosed me with a terminal disease, my first thought would be "I know, I'll go to the US to rot in jail!"
Moron. The world doesn't care about your crappy little country. When was the last time a real terrorist was found in a border check?
Why think when you can follow protocol?
I think we're better off this way.
And pure irony on the part of the article!
I, for one, will mention this incident whenever the topic moves to copyright infringement. They lost the moral high ground too, now.
Let me illustrate the point better:
Article 5
1. The articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on European Union and of the
Treaty establishing the European Community, as amended by this Treaty, shall be renumbered in
accordance with the tables of equivalences set out in the Annex to this Treaty, and which form an
integral part of this Treaty.
2. The cross-references to the articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on European
Union and of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, as well as between them, shall be
adapted pursuant to paragraph 1 and the references to paragraphs of the said articles as renumbered or
re-ordered by the provisions of this Treaty shall be adapted in accordance with those provisions.
References to the articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on European Union and of
the Treaty establishing the European Community contained in the other treaties and acts of primary
legislation on which the Union is founded shall be adapted pursuant to paragraph 1 of this Article.
References to recitals of the Treaty on European Union or to paragraphs or articles of the Treaty on
European Union or of the Treaty establishing the European Community as renumbered or re-arranged
by the provisions of this Treaty shall be adapted pursuant to this latter.
Such adaptations shall, where necessary, also apply in the event that the provision in question has been
repealed.
3. The references to the recitals, articles, sections, chapters, titles and parts of the Treaty on
European Union and of the Treaty establishing the European Community, as amended by this Treaty,
contained in other instruments or acts shall be understood as referring to the recitals, articles, sections,
chapters, titles and parts of those Treaties as renumbered pursuant to paragraph 1 and, respectively, to
the paragraphs of the said articles, as renumbered or re-arranged by certain provisions of this Treaty.
Would you be so proud of your founding fathers if they signed this?
Anyway, I'm out of there, watching the debacle from the outside. Wait, I'm in the UK. Oh noes! I will have to move countries again!
Make a trip to Ireland and thank everyone you meet for voting down the Lisbon Treaty. Right now, they're the only ones stopping the bureaucratic machine.
Maybe you'll discover that you simply cannot win in any democratic system...?
Not only that, but the majority will always have that illusion. Absolutely brilliant.
Meanwhile, the two biggest parties will have free reign, as long as they piss the voters off equally.
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Whoops, my finger slipped.
Are you sure they did get a few warnings?
Hungary got warnings about banning gene-modified crops. Fortunately, we were not the only ones to do so, and for good reason.
See here for some details. Also, I was told the corn in question was modified to protect itself from a bug not found in Central Europe, yet they still wanted to force it on us.
Sues Sweden? And what if they don't obey?
That's a really good question. I'm guessing there's something for this in those 10000+ pages of international treaties that form the EU.
What's interesting though, that this is the only law they react so harshly to. They usually warn a couple of times, prod gently, give deadlines, give more deadlines, and not take it to court without warning. Of course those are laws not directly related to their emerging police state.
I don't post as AC, ever.