Apple is trying to protect themselves from becoming a helpdesk, which is something they are not. They are very clear about this
Yes, the giant "We're here to help" headline on top of the Apple retail home page really slams that point home. http://www.apple.com/retail/
"We’re here to help.... Geniuses provide hands-on technical support... Our Specialists help you get to know our products and answer your questions...."
"If you have technical questions about your Mac, iPad, iPod, Apple TV, or iPhone, the Genius Bar is the place for free advice, insight, and friendly, hands-on technical support. Geniuses use their impressive knowledge to answer technical questions, troubleshoot problems, and perform repairs — right in your neighborhood store.... If you have technical questions about your Mac, iPad, iPod, Apple TV, or iPhone, the Genius Bar is the place for free advice, insight, and friendly, hands-on technical support. Geniuses use their impressive knowledge to answer technical questions, troubleshoot problems, and perform repairs — right in your neighborhood store."
They're a help desk. Otherwise, the claim above is fraud.
WiFi APs are good enough to map your location on a map on wifi only iPads (labeled "current location"). Their range is very limited, so coming into contact with one is the same as knowing location -- especially when combined with what other APs are visible to you at the same time -- which is why Apple has always referred to this as a "location" finding technique.
The sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. [...] Just over 69% of the never-drinkers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.
So the delta between moderate and heavy (i.e. "three drinks a day") is a full 19 percentage points, meaning almost 50 percent more heavy drinkers than moderate drinkers were dead by the end of the test. Yes, there could be various other factors exaggerating the impact, i.e. sick people drinking away the pain, but the researchers were very clear about the overall outcome:
Moderate drinkers lived the longest, and heavy drinkers did well relative to abstainers. But let's not forget how many of them were dead at the end of the study. If you want to keep the doctor away, exercise and eating well, and apparently some moderate alcohol intake, is the best past, not three drinks a day. Just in case anyone is making health decisions based on Slashdot headlines (in which case, God help you:)
You have a good point about the iPod, on the other hand if they aren't trying to make a market for movie downloads then what is the AppleTV product for?
Apple makes some wonderful products, but people forget the company has a string of failures alongside its string of successes. Not that there's anything wrong with this, you have to fail to succeed, even if you're Steve Jobs, but iTunes video is best understood in the context of failure, IMHO.
There's just very little reason to buy video from Apple at this time. DVD players are overwhelmingly cheap, and DVDs are cheap and easy to buy OR RENT. Netflix, Blockbuster, Wal Mart, Target etc etc are all too happy to put DVDs in your hands. They are making loads of money on them, as are the studios, the only people not cashing in are the writers (see: WGA strike).
The primitive state of broadband means downloads are not pressuring the industry, there is piracy but it's just not like it was for music in the Napster days. At that time you could literally get virtually any song on your hard drive within a few minutes. For video, you need to figure out BitTorrent, then wait wait wait for the download. Or you need to set up iTunes and then wait wait wait for the download.
THEN you have to get your TV hooked up to your computer, and then tolerate visibly worse quality. This was not the case with MP3s, they sounded just as good as CDs to most people, despite the specs, and people already had headphones to plug in to their computers, or a miniplug to hook up to the stereo cost $5 at Radio Shack.
Amid this backdrop, Apple is trying to make a market for video downloads. But the effort is futile until broadband speeds get up closer to FTTP (fiber) levels. Even then, the studios probably won't hand Apple a new market to dominate like they did last time. Wired recently quoted one studio head who said he gave in to Jobs on iTunes because Jobs pointed out that Mac's 5 percent market share mitigated the risk -- if the studio's worst nightmares came true, the impact would still be minor. No one is going to be fooled this time around into thinking Jobs just wants to make an innocent little side service for Mac users. You can bet a Google or Netflix is going to get licensing parity (which did not happen with iTunes).
He mentions having his debit card cut off every time he leaves the country; the same thing happened to me.
Ater specifically notifying B of A I was going to France, and asking them to raise the limit, because I would be withdrawing a lot of cash, my card was suspended.
Suspiciously, someone was withdrawing a lot of cash. In France.
This is basically the price we pay for weak law enforcement. There are laws against spam, and phishing, but no money to prosecute, so we end up with flawed automated systems.
There are laws against credit card fraud, but it's too expensive to really stop, especially abroad, so we end up with flawed automated systems.
There were all kinds of HUGE clues before the Sept. 11 attacks, but actually reforming the bureaucracy to catch those kinds of clues is too hard, so we have No Fly lists that trap innocent people. Basically a flawed, automated system.
And now it's just assumed that law enforcement will be weak and collectively incompetent, so there's this groundswell of acceptance for racial profiling, as though focusing on arabs (or blacks, latinos and whatnot, depending on the context and crime you're trying to stop) will make us safer -- rather than less safe, since while you're looking for the [arab/black/latino] guy on suspicion of [terrorism/theft/illegal immigration], someone who doesn't fit the stereotype walks right under your nose.
If you're worried about the security of the copious data being sent to Wordpress.org, don't be, there's this guy named Barry, he's awesome and he will keep your private information safe!
Or as the author of WordPress puts in TFA:
"In 2 years of running WordPress.com and Akismet, two extraordinarily high-visibility targets, there has never been a problem on a server Barry set up."
Of course the parts cost is one small part of the picture. Apple also has to pay Jonathan Ive's salary, plus hush money every time he strangles someone with an iPod cord.
Which means that poor Steve Jobs is barely making any money on these things, he can almost not commute to work in the chopper.
But don't count on the investigatory journalists at BusinessWeek to report on that, no matter how many people Jonathan Ive leaves dead and bloodied along the way.
How does the U.S. "officially recognize" Scientology as a religion when the First Amendment begins, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."?
Just because the IRS chooses not to contest their tax return (after fighting them for decades) does NOT mean they are officially recognized. That's like saying I'm officially recognized as drug free just because the cops could never convict me of drug possession and gave up trying.
A megacorporation convicted of gross violations of various antitrust laws has partnered with the dictators of China, who have committed heinous human rights abuses on live television, in order to slightly increase its own profit margins.
The megacorporation is now lecturing the victims of this dictatorship about how they should not trade their morals for money.
I am a little choked up right now. I'm just so. PROUD. To be. An. Amur. Ah. Cain.
10. Vista (Starter, Ultimate Turbo Champion, etc). If this applies to you, stop reading list here, all your new cores are belong to Microsoft.
9. Time to install Web 2.1, baby!!
8. Full-screen full-motion porn on all three of your 30-inch computer monitors while running global warming computer model in background
7. Terrorism.
6. Receiving chocolate cake over the Internet.
5. As a tool to help you personally become a more productive worker, engaged citizen and attentive spouse and parent, rather than as a weird techno-fetishistic ends unto itself. Ha ha, just kidding!! LOLzzz.
4. Dedicated core for Safari installs/updates.
3. Department Homeland Security monitoring/spyware (federal statutory requirement)
2. AT&T Broadband/RIAA monitoring/spyware (in EULA)
A nice flame war. I'm just going to sit back, crack a beer and enjoy it. It is almost memorial day weekend, you know. Hopefully it get hot enough in here to roast a hot dog.
Oh goody! I'll help get things going:
MySQL users will have to wait until you are done with the fire before they can roast their hot dogs, since MySQL is not a real database and does not support concurrent roasting;
I've read the PostgreSQL manual eight times and still can't figure out something as bloody simple as roasting a hot dog, though I did figure out I have to call VACUUM before I can apply ketchup;
Serious enterprises who care about their hot dogs use Oracle, since you can roast over 10,000 dogs at once and optionally impart the taste of filet mignon;
If you try to roast a footlong hotdog using MySQL it will silently truncate it to regular size, causing your child to cry;
Oracle will sue you if you complain about the difficulty of starting your fire or the blackened taste of the dogs;
With SQLite your hot dogs are pre-roasted;
Last year on Memorial Day, mysqld leapt out of my MacBook Pro and pushed my cousin into the fire, resulting in third degree burns. And also it causes cancer. And terrorism. Blindness. Violent puppy death. BOO! MYSQL IS SCARY DON'T USE MYSQL!!
Well, yes I lost my temper and I apologize for that. The Apple spokesman's comment is accurate but does not actually contradict what I wrote, however much it might sound that way at first blush.
I did say, as you point out, that Steve Jobs and senior management admitted doing this stuff. That is still correct.
The spokesman you cited as refuting my claim says Jobs and management were not _aware_ of _irregularities_. In other words, they did not know what was going on. This could mean they didn't know the law, it could mean they didn't know the board minutes were fake. Apple is being opaque about this, of course.
But saying you were not aware of irregularities is not the same as saying you didn't do it. Jobs did receive backdated options, this is admitted. He is CEO of the company that granted him those options. There were thousands of backdated options granted and dispensed through Apple senior management. They DID it.
What is at question is WHO, if anyone, was _aware_ of irregularities, and whether anyone has broken the law. But there is no question whatsoever that what the company did as a collective entity was fraudulent, nor is there any question some senior managers and members of the board must have had awareness, nor is there any question Jobs personally made all the money I said he made from illegally backdated stock options.
You are right to ask questions, and I think you'll find the truth. If I seem frustrated, it is because for some insane reason I had an expectation I could explain this on Slashdot and get modpoints, which is both greedy and naive.
He made an allegation about the motivations of the Chronicle staff -- that they were out to villify Jobs. Going to the shareholder meeting gives him no information about the motivations of the Chronicle staff, nor does their word choice prove his claim, however much he might disagree with it.
Roughly Drafted alleged a reporter and her editors fabricated facts "to dramatize and vilify the company." He offers no proof of this and does not seek comment from anyone. Your link does nothing to impugn the accuracy of any of the SF Chronicle's stories.
The facts are agreed by all parties, the fight is over WHICH members of management/board were responsible. Apple is blaming a FORMERCFO who is no longer CURRENT management, hence the spokesman's weasel words, which you unthinkingly parrot. I don't need another source, you just need to THINK.
Sorry, to be clear, "backdating" itself is fraud, if you mean backdating the grant, granting "in the money" options is perfectly legal, even if you based it on a the strike price of a previous date, which has also been called "backdating."
So if you grant options based on a strike price in the past, but you admit this is what you are doing, and call them "in the money options based on Dec 1 1900 strike price" instead of "options granted Dec 1 1900", you are fine. Pretending you granted the options in the past is fraud, and it's what Apple has admitted doing.
PS to be clear, Steve Jobs has not admitted PERSONAL responsibility or liability but HAS admitted that this backdating took place at the company under his CEO tenure and that it should not have happened. (AKA, please don't sue me, Steve Jobs)
I'm a fan of Apple products and am about to buy one, but can't resist pointing out that whoever did this is engaged in very tiny-scale fraud compared to what Steve Jobs and the rest of upper management have already admitted doing.
They have admitted:
* Inventing on paper a fake Board of Directors Committee meeting that never took place (source)
* Using this fake meeting to backdate options at a total benefit to Jobs of $20 million (contrary to Jobs' false spin) (same source)
* Backdating a total of 6,400 stock options grants over five years, including two to Jobs (source)
Those facts are agreed by all parties. All that's being fought about now is WHICH senior executives and board members were at fault. Since obviously Jobs rules Apple so loosely that this kind of thing can go on under his nose (cough) and just HAPPENS to have also happened at Pixar.
The crazy part is that backdating itself is totally legally, and doesn't even affect how you accont for the options, as the New Yorker has pointed out in an excellent short essay. You just have to disclose what you did, and that, it seems, threatens the pride of a lot of Silicon Valley execs who like to pretend that stock options are a performance motivator (when in the case of backdated options they are not).
Anyway, so some guy breeched Apple security and sent out a fake email, and probably made some cash on the stock dip. He'll probably be hunted down and prosecuted and do some time, which is kind of sad, considering far more money has been fraudulently obtained by some of the top people at Apple (again, that is not in dispute) and top people at tech companies all over the Valley.
Not going to keep me from buying a Mac, but sad nevertheless.
Wait, you mean these sites Musicnotes and MXTabs feature BARELY LEGAL examples of rubbing and stroking and vibrating TIGHT thin little stringy things, all in a series of Web pages that have been deemed TOO REVEALING and EXPLICIT by the leading moral authorities?
And we can get all this too-racy-for-the-Web content for free right now for a limited time only in the privacy of our own homes, and it will help us learn to "play" like rock stars?
So, if I understand correctly, they circumvented a special visual encryption scheme to unlock this music. Then they made an unauthorized copy, which they performed, recorded and then uploaded to the Internet.
Jack Valenti heard about the whole thing and had a heart attack.
These people are terrorists. Not only did they steal a copyright owned by Jesus himself, from a Church, they hate our precious freedoms to help corporations own and profit from music.
The are probably pirating gay abortion manuals as we speak to sell to Hezbollah and undermine our troops in Iraq. Can someone put these enemy combatants on a no fly list before the unthinkable happens?
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Apple is trying to protect themselves from becoming a helpdesk, which is something they are not. They are very clear about this
Yes, the giant "We're here to help" headline on top of the Apple retail home page really slams that point home. http://www.apple.com/retail/
"We’re here to help.... Geniuses provide hands-on technical support... Our Specialists help you get to know our products and answer your questions...."
"If you have technical questions about your Mac, iPad, iPod, Apple TV, or iPhone, the Genius Bar is the place for free advice, insight, and friendly, hands-on technical support. Geniuses use their impressive knowledge to answer technical questions, troubleshoot problems, and perform repairs — right in your neighborhood store.... If you have technical questions about your Mac, iPad, iPod, Apple TV, or iPhone, the Genius Bar is the place for free advice, insight, and friendly, hands-on technical support. Geniuses use their impressive knowledge to answer technical questions, troubleshoot problems, and perform repairs — right in your neighborhood store."
They're a help desk. Otherwise, the claim above is fraud.
This is awesome. Wish I had mod points!
I want to put something new in my machine and it just work; most users would trade the keys to their bank accounts for that
And thanks to the magic of Windows and Internet Explorer, many do!
WiFi APs are good enough to map your location on a map on wifi only iPads (labeled "current location"). Their range is very limited, so coming into contact with one is the same as knowing location -- especially when combined with what other APs are visible to you at the same time -- which is why Apple has always referred to this as a "location" finding technique.
From TFA:
So the delta between moderate and heavy (i.e. "three drinks a day") is a full 19 percentage points, meaning almost 50 percent more heavy drinkers than moderate drinkers were dead by the end of the test. Yes, there could be various other factors exaggerating the impact, i.e. sick people drinking away the pain, but the researchers were very clear about the overall outcome:
Moderate drinkers lived the longest, and heavy drinkers did well relative to abstainers. But let's not forget how many of them were dead at the end of the study. If you want to keep the doctor away, exercise and eating well, and apparently some moderate alcohol intake, is the best past, not three drinks a day. Just in case anyone is making health decisions based on Slashdot headlines (in which case, God help you :)
You have a good point about the iPod, on the other hand if they aren't trying to make a market for movie downloads then what is the AppleTV product for?
Apple makes some wonderful products, but people forget the company has a string of failures alongside its string of successes. Not that there's anything wrong with this, you have to fail to succeed, even if you're Steve Jobs, but iTunes video is best understood in the context of failure, IMHO.
There's just very little reason to buy video from Apple at this time. DVD players are overwhelmingly cheap, and DVDs are cheap and easy to buy OR RENT. Netflix, Blockbuster, Wal Mart, Target etc etc are all too happy to put DVDs in your hands. They are making loads of money on them, as are the studios, the only people not cashing in are the writers (see: WGA strike).
The primitive state of broadband means downloads are not pressuring the industry, there is piracy but it's just not like it was for music in the Napster days. At that time you could literally get virtually any song on your hard drive within a few minutes. For video, you need to figure out BitTorrent, then wait wait wait for the download. Or you need to set up iTunes and then wait wait wait for the download.
THEN you have to get your TV hooked up to your computer, and then tolerate visibly worse quality. This was not the case with MP3s, they sounded just as good as CDs to most people, despite the specs, and people already had headphones to plug in to their computers, or a miniplug to hook up to the stereo cost $5 at Radio Shack.
Amid this backdrop, Apple is trying to make a market for video downloads. But the effort is futile until broadband speeds get up closer to FTTP (fiber) levels. Even then, the studios probably won't hand Apple a new market to dominate like they did last time. Wired recently quoted one studio head who said he gave in to Jobs on iTunes because Jobs pointed out that Mac's 5 percent market share mitigated the risk -- if the studio's worst nightmares came true, the impact would still be minor. No one is going to be fooled this time around into thinking Jobs just wants to make an innocent little side service for Mac users. You can bet a Google or Netflix is going to get licensing parity (which did not happen with iTunes).
He mentions having his debit card cut off every time he leaves the country; the same thing happened to me.
Ater specifically notifying B of A I was going to France, and asking them to raise the limit, because I would be withdrawing a lot of cash, my card was suspended.
Suspiciously, someone was withdrawing a lot of cash. In France.
This is basically the price we pay for weak law enforcement. There are laws against spam, and phishing, but no money to prosecute, so we end up with flawed automated systems.
There are laws against credit card fraud, but it's too expensive to really stop, especially abroad, so we end up with flawed automated systems.
There were all kinds of HUGE clues before the Sept. 11 attacks, but actually reforming the bureaucracy to catch those kinds of clues is too hard, so we have No Fly lists that trap innocent people. Basically a flawed, automated system.
And now it's just assumed that law enforcement will be weak and collectively incompetent, so there's this groundswell of acceptance for racial profiling, as though focusing on arabs (or blacks, latinos and whatnot, depending on the context and crime you're trying to stop) will make us safer -- rather than less safe, since while you're looking for the [arab/black/latino] guy on suspicion of [terrorism/theft/illegal immigration], someone who doesn't fit the stereotype walks right under your nose.
If you're worried about the security of the copious data being sent to Wordpress.org, don't be, there's this guy named Barry, he's awesome and he will keep your private information safe!
Or as the author of WordPress puts in TFA:
"In 2 years of running WordPress.com and Akismet, two extraordinarily
high-visibility targets, there has never been a problem on a server
Barry set up."
Uh, right.
Of course the parts cost is one small part of the picture. Apple also has to pay Jonathan Ive's salary, plus hush money every time he strangles someone with an iPod cord.
Which means that poor Steve Jobs is barely making any money on these things, he can almost not commute to work in the chopper.
But don't count on the investigatory journalists at BusinessWeek to report on that, no matter how many people Jonathan Ive leaves dead and bloodied along the way.
How does the U.S. "officially recognize" Scientology as a religion when the First Amendment begins, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ..."?
Just because the IRS chooses not to contest their tax return (after fighting them for decades) does NOT mean they are officially recognized. That's like saying I'm officially recognized as drug free just because the cops could never convict me of drug possession and gave up trying.
A megacorporation convicted of gross violations of various antitrust laws has partnered with the dictators of China, who have committed heinous human rights abuses on live television, in order to slightly increase its own profit margins.
The megacorporation is now lecturing the victims of this dictatorship about how they should not trade their morals for money.
I am a little choked up right now. I'm just so. PROUD. To be. An. Amur. Ah. Cain.
Sniffle.
From the Home Office in Bangalore India!
Top Ten Uses For Your New Processor Cores:
10. Vista (Starter, Ultimate Turbo Champion, etc). If this applies to you, stop reading list here, all your new cores are belong to Microsoft.
9. Time to install Web 2.1, baby!!
8. Full-screen full-motion porn on all three of your 30-inch computer monitors while running global warming computer model in background
7. Terrorism.
6. Receiving chocolate cake over the Internet.
5. As a tool to help you personally become a more productive worker, engaged citizen and attentive spouse and parent, rather than as a weird techno-fetishistic ends unto itself. Ha ha, just kidding!! LOLzzz.
4. Dedicated core for Safari installs/updates.
3. Department Homeland Security monitoring/spyware (federal statutory requirement)
2. AT&T Broadband/RIAA monitoring/spyware (in EULA)
1. Wife's monitoring/spyware (in the vows)
Heh, I think Larry Ellison also added a special JIS encoding mode which gives you kind of an unagi flavor ;->
Oh goody! I'll help get things going:
Happy Memorial Day!
Well, yes I lost my temper and I apologize for that. The Apple spokesman's comment is accurate but does not actually contradict what I wrote, however much it might sound that way at first blush.
I did say, as you point out, that Steve Jobs and senior management admitted doing this stuff. That is still correct.
The spokesman you cited as refuting my claim says Jobs and management were not _aware_ of _irregularities_. In other words, they did not know what was going on. This could mean they didn't know the law, it could mean they didn't know the board minutes were fake. Apple is being opaque about this, of course.
But saying you were not aware of irregularities is not the same as saying you didn't do it. Jobs did receive backdated options, this is admitted. He is CEO of the company that granted him those options. There were thousands of backdated options granted and dispensed through Apple senior management. They DID it.
What is at question is WHO, if anyone, was _aware_ of irregularities, and whether anyone has broken the law. But there is no question whatsoever that what the company did as a collective entity was fraudulent, nor is there any question some senior managers and members of the board must have had awareness, nor is there any question Jobs personally made all the money I said he made from illegally backdated stock options.
You are right to ask questions, and I think you'll find the truth. If I seem frustrated, it is because for some insane reason I had an expectation I could explain this on Slashdot and get modpoints, which is both greedy and naive.
Plus, ya, I was kind of a dick in my last post.
He made an allegation about the motivations of the Chronicle staff -- that they were out to villify Jobs. Going to the shareholder meeting gives him no information about the motivations of the Chronicle staff, nor does their word choice prove his claim, however much he might disagree with it.
Roughly Drafted alleged a reporter and her editors fabricated facts "to dramatize and vilify the company." He offers no proof of this and does not seek comment from anyone. Your link does nothing to impugn the accuracy of any of the SF Chronicle's stories.
The facts are agreed by all parties, the fight is over WHICH members of management/board were responsible. Apple is blaming a FORMERCFO who is no longer CURRENT management, hence the spokesman's weasel words, which you unthinkingly parrot. I don't need another source, you just need to THINK.
Sorry, to be clear, "backdating" itself is fraud, if you mean backdating the grant, granting "in the money" options is perfectly legal, even if you based it on a the strike price of a previous date, which has also been called "backdating."
So if you grant options based on a strike price in the past, but you admit this is what you are doing, and call them "in the money options based on Dec 1 1900 strike price" instead of "options granted Dec 1 1900", you are fine. Pretending you granted the options in the past is fraud, and it's what Apple has admitted doing.
There's more in the New Yorker article.
PS to be clear, Steve Jobs has not admitted PERSONAL responsibility or liability but HAS admitted that this backdating took place at the company under his CEO tenure and that it should not have happened. (AKA, please don't sue me, Steve Jobs)
I'm a fan of Apple products and am about to buy one, but can't resist pointing out that whoever did this is engaged in very tiny-scale fraud compared to what Steve Jobs and the rest of upper management have already admitted doing.
They have admitted:
* Inventing on paper a fake Board of Directors Committee meeting that never took place (source)
* Using this fake meeting to backdate options at a total benefit to Jobs of $20 million (contrary to Jobs' false spin) (same source)
* Backdating a total of 6,400 stock options grants over five years, including two to Jobs (source)
Those facts are agreed by all parties. All that's being fought about now is WHICH senior executives and board members were at fault. Since obviously Jobs rules Apple so loosely that this kind of thing can go on under his nose (cough) and just HAPPENS to have also happened at Pixar.
The crazy part is that backdating itself is totally legally, and doesn't even affect how you accont for the options, as the New Yorker has pointed out in an excellent short essay. You just have to disclose what you did, and that, it seems, threatens the pride of a lot of Silicon Valley execs who like to pretend that stock options are a performance motivator (when in the case of backdated options they are not).
Anyway, so some guy breeched Apple security and sent out a fake email, and probably made some cash on the stock dip. He'll probably be hunted down and prosecuted and do some time, which is kind of sad, considering far more money has been fraudulently obtained by some of the top people at Apple (again, that is not in dispute) and top people at tech companies all over the Valley.
Not going to keep me from buying a Mac, but sad nevertheless.
Wait, you mean these sites Musicnotes and MXTabs feature BARELY LEGAL examples of rubbing and stroking and vibrating TIGHT thin little stringy things, all in a series of Web pages that have been deemed TOO REVEALING and EXPLICIT by the leading moral authorities?
And we can get all this too-racy-for-the-Web content for free right now for a limited time only in the privacy of our own homes, and it will help us learn to "play" like rock stars?
Hott.
Wait, what were talking about again?
So, if I understand correctly, they circumvented a special visual encryption scheme to unlock this music. Then they made an unauthorized copy, which they performed, recorded and then uploaded to the Internet.
Jack Valenti heard about the whole thing and had a heart attack.
These people are terrorists. Not only did they steal a copyright owned by Jesus himself, from a Church, they hate our precious freedoms to help corporations own and profit from music.
The are probably pirating gay abortion manuals as we speak to sell to Hezbollah and undermine our troops in Iraq. Can someone put these enemy combatants on a no fly list before the unthinkable happens?
I don't give a fuck who you are, a joke about suicide is not funny. What a sociopathic prick you are.