>>Mind you, I don't think anything else is really set up for it either (Erlang?) but that's going to be the next big challenge.
>Whatever it is, its compiler and low-level libraries will be written in C.
Low-level libraries maybe, but why the would you write the compiler in C? If you are going to write an advanced compiler I thought you would really want to use a high level language. For instance, Javac has been written in Java for a long time.
OLPC may die out, but their business model isn't our problem.
That assumes that it is a for-profit operation. But it isn't, it is an attempt to give third world children better tools for learning.
Asus proved that running a real desktop OS in that package is what consumers want as opposed to deliberately crippled equipment running crippled operating systems.
OLPC isn't aimed at first world consumers and what they want, it is designed to be (among other things) extremely robust and power efficient.
and in fact Java should be immune to this class of exploits.
Not guaranteed unfortunately... the Flash VM has a bytecode verifier and a security sandbox just like the JVM does, this exploit just managed to find a hole in the verifier. There might be similar vulnerabilites to be found in the JVM,.Net and other VMs.
The paper specifically talks about the ActionScript virtual machine, i.e. the Flash player VM. There is nothing in there about Java. Why the Java icon? Why the Java tag?
When it comes a day after this flamebait article you have to start to wonder if the Slashdot editors are busy with some massive FUD campaign against Sun or if they are just really ignorant.
A little girl gleefully ran up to the gate agent and told her that she was allergic to peanuts and that they couldn't have any on the plane. The girl ran back to her parents with that smug "I just ruined your flight by making up a story to tell the gate agent and there's nothing you can do about it!" look on her face. But she was wrong, and there was something I could do about it. I immediately ran to an airport gift shop in search of a bag of peanuts. Failing that, I did buy a large Snickers bar and then run back to the gate and board my flight. It turns out I was seated very near this unruly, obnoxious little brat, so I gleefully opened and slowly enjoyed my Snickers bar, peanuts and all. As it turns out, the girl had no reaction whatsoever to the peanuts a few seats away. Am I an evil jerk? Maybe. Did I enjoy my flight ten times more by calling an obnoxious brat's bluff? Very much so.
You are assuming a lot in your story. Perhaps she was "gleefully running up to the security agent" because she was excited about going on a trip? Perhap she thought "hello nice man" and smiled at you, or was relieved that she wouldn't be sick, and you choose to interpret that as smugness and lying? (Obnoxious and unruly because she cared about her health? Nice touch.) Perhaps she and you were just lucky that she didn't have a serious allergic reaction? There is a lot more risk of peanut particles flying around when people all over the plane open bags of partially crushed peanuts than when one person eats a candy bar with a few embedded nuts in it.
If this is true, could the editors please alter the article title accordingly? Or at least point directly to the above comment?
Nah, the Slashdot editors (and most of the readers) have never let facts get in the way of a little good ol' Java or Sun bashing, so don't expect them to start now.
Parallel programming is going to be a HUGE deal in coming years, and current languages don't handle it well - threading is complicated and prone to errors, leading to product delays. Erlang handles parallelism very elegantly and in a low-fault manner, as it must as it's used in critical telecoms applications. Unfortunately, the language also has a high barrier to entry as it is not Algol-based (like C, C++, Java, etc. are).
That might be why they recommend Scala. It is pretty easy to pick up if you know (for instance) Java, you have an "actors" library that is similar to Erlang concurrency, you gain some knowledge of functional programming (though not as much as from a pure functional language such as Lisp or ML, or so I'm told), you can deploy it on the JVM and interoperate with the huge number of existing Java libraries, and you can use existing IDEs such as Netbeans.
You do know that global warming is caused by trapping heat FROM THE SUN, right?
Yes, and we can measure the varying input FROM THE SUN and most people have come to the conclusion that the increase in global temperatures can not be explained by changes in sunspot activity (or 11 year cycles, or 20 year cycles or what the current theory is). Which is what Black Parrot was referring to.
This year has been far colder than usual,
So a single data point (a single year) is suddenly incredibly significant now that it supports YOUR side of the argument?
and indeed scientists say that it's due to reduced solar activity.
Would you like to give references to some of these scientists?
I didn't realise/. had started posting links to things the submitter happened to find amusing today.
Then you honestly can't have been here very long. The foot icon appears at least a couple of times a week on the frontpage and indicates a "funny" story submission. If it displeases you, you can filter away these stories in your preferences.
Gasp, cant we admit MS was on the right side for once.
Well, I doubt they supported HDDVD because of any techical superiority, they just wanted a monopoly on home entertainment just like they have over operating systems and office documents today.
It was the superior format with no region encoding
Many Blu-ray discs are sold without region encoding...though I admit I would rather have seen a standard completely without it.
PCs get outdated far more quickly than consoles. In five years you'll still be able to buy and play wii games. In five years you'll have had to spend several grand to keep your PC up to date.
Not really. That presumes that you buy the last generation of graphics cards/cpus, top of the line, and only play the current "ooh-shiny" game (currently - Crysis) but you don't have to that.
Gilbertson describes how he and another reporter were nearly blown to pieces by an errant Air Force bomb in northern Iraq in the late days of the American invasion. They finally withdrew from the front because, as Gilbertson himself concedes, "The risk was too high, the payoff too low." And yet when he returned to his hotel in Erbil, he switched on the television and found Fox's correspondent "crouching in front of sandbags, wearing a flak jacket and a helmet. He was supposedly on the front lines, reporting via a scratchy video phone. He had to whisper, he said." But as Gilbertson studied the screen, he could discern, over the correspondent's shoulder and above the sandbags, the "distinctive architecture of our hotel." Fox's man in the field was reporting live from a foxhole he had built in his hotel room. The outraged Gilbertson dialed the correspondent's in-house phone and then hung up, allowing just enough time to send a single ring over the airwaves.
Still, getting back to this particular case - it seems Slashdot consensus is overwhelmingly "Oh my God he got fired for speaking teh truth!!!", but did you look at some earlier posts on his blog? Like the one where he does a "Anonymous vs Scientology" style rant against Oprah and finished with something like "Remember, we are going to get you. Bitch." He might be allowed by US law to say it as a private person (though I think it is pretty low), but I can in fact understand a company not wanting their name associated with something like that.
If 45% of respondents on a tech- and media-crazy site like Slashdot don't care, then that's close enough to "humanity as a whole doesn't give a shit" for me.
Perhaps, but non-tech savvy people can easily be swayed into thinking "I must have this!!" based on commercials...
now if they'll only halt construction on devices related to blu-ray, I can finally stop hearing about this irrelevant crap. The slashdot poll said it best: no one gives a shit.
Actually, at the time of writing, 45% in the Slashdot poll claims not to care about Blu-ray. Hardly everyone, even if Slashdot was representative of humanity as a whole.
I find it enormously ironic that you answer a well reasoned and well researched post with a massive ad-hominem rant... and you sincerely believe that YOU are the rational and scientific one. Unbelievable.
A few months ago, we discussed Microsoft's intention to open source the.NET libraries.
Yes, and as one of the first posters pointed out, unlike Java for instance, this is NOT being published under an open source licence, Microsoft even says so. So why do you keep using the term?
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Damn it! Now they will rewrite it in Java. It will no longer be the fastest database engine, after the rewrite, it will certainly be the slowest.
High Def porn is a good thing. If you like what you're looking at then more def is usually good. Hell a real female is infinitely more "hi def" than the TV is they are still generally prefered over porn.
Yes but real people don't have genitals the size of 42" screens and razor pimples the size of tennis balls...
The myth that it was the porn studios who cased VHS to win over Betamax has been pretty thoroughly debunked... besides, even if it was so, this does not mean it must happen again 20 years later -
*People can get porn online easily these days. *Porn might be one of the few genres that DON'T benefit from high-definition.
There has been a blitz of these "the war is over, HD DVD is doomed" stories last couple of days, and sites post them very uncritically. Same with political "assassinations" online, doesn't matter how many times they are refuted, the lies live on and will probably enter the history books one day.
>>Mind you, I don't think anything else is really set up for it either (Erlang?) but that's going to be the next big challenge.
>Whatever it is, its compiler and low-level libraries will be written in C.
Low-level libraries maybe, but why the would you write the compiler in C? If you are going to write an advanced compiler I thought you would really want to use a high level language. For instance, Javac has been written in Java for a long time.
OLPC may die out, but their business model isn't our problem.
That assumes that it is a for-profit operation. But it isn't, it is an attempt to give third world children better tools for learning.
Asus proved that running a real desktop OS in that package is what consumers want as opposed to deliberately crippled equipment running crippled operating systems.
OLPC isn't aimed at first world consumers and what they want, it is designed to be (among other things) extremely robust and power efficient.
and in fact Java should be immune to this class of exploits.
.Net and other VMs.
Not guaranteed unfortunately... the Flash VM has a bytecode verifier and a security sandbox just like the JVM does, this exploit just managed to find a hole in the verifier. There might be similar vulnerabilites to be found in the JVM,
Probably because they see JavaScript, bytecode and virtual machine all in the same sentence. Put two and two together and you end up with five.
:)
Bah, I preferred my wild conspiracy theories. Anyway, if you needed another good reason to install NoScript...
The paper specifically talks about the ActionScript virtual machine, i.e. the Flash player VM. There is nothing in there about Java. Why the Java icon? Why the Java tag?
When it comes a day after this flamebait article you have to start to wonder if the Slashdot editors are busy with some massive FUD campaign against Sun or if they are just really ignorant.
A little girl gleefully ran up to the gate agent and told her that she was allergic to peanuts and that they couldn't have any on the plane. The girl ran back to her parents with that smug "I just ruined your flight by making up a story to tell the gate agent and there's nothing you can do about it!" look on her face. But she was wrong, and there was something I could do about it. I immediately ran to an airport gift shop in search of a bag of peanuts. Failing that, I did buy a large Snickers bar and then run back to the gate and board my flight.
It turns out I was seated very near this unruly, obnoxious little brat, so I gleefully opened and slowly enjoyed my Snickers bar, peanuts and all. As it turns out, the girl had no reaction whatsoever to the peanuts a few seats away.
Am I an evil jerk? Maybe. Did I enjoy my flight ten times more by calling an obnoxious brat's bluff? Very much so.
You are assuming a lot in your story. Perhaps she was "gleefully running up to the security agent" because she was excited about going on a trip? Perhap she thought "hello nice man" and smiled at you, or was relieved that she wouldn't be sick, and you choose to interpret that as smugness and lying? (Obnoxious and unruly because she cared about her health? Nice touch.) Perhaps she and you were just lucky that she didn't have a serious allergic reaction? There is a lot more risk of peanut particles flying around when people all over the plane open bags of partially crushed peanuts than when one person eats a candy bar with a few embedded nuts in it.
If this is true, could the editors please alter the article title accordingly? Or at least point directly to the above comment?
Nah, the Slashdot editors (and most of the readers) have never let facts get in the way of a little good ol' Java or Sun bashing, so don't expect them to start now.
>>and you can use existing IDEs such as Netbeans.
>Jesus. Why?
>Eclipse FTW!
I prefer Netbeans. To each his/her own.
Parallel programming is going to be a HUGE deal in coming years, and current languages don't handle it well - threading is complicated and prone to errors, leading to product delays. Erlang handles parallelism very elegantly and in a low-fault manner, as it must as it's used in critical telecoms applications. Unfortunately, the language also has a high barrier to entry as it is not Algol-based (like C, C++, Java, etc. are).
That might be why they recommend Scala. It is pretty easy to pick up if you know (for instance) Java, you have an "actors" library that is similar to Erlang concurrency, you gain some knowledge of functional programming (though not as much as from a pure functional language such as Lisp or ML, or so I'm told), you can deploy it on the JVM and interoperate with the huge number of existing Java libraries, and you can use existing IDEs such as Netbeans.
Some would argue that all of these deviations from their core business is why Sun is in the trouble they're in now.
Lately they have been doing quite well I thought. They made a decent profit last four quarters in a row.
McNealy is a shitty CEO, and should have been canned a long time ago.
Er, you know that Jonathan Schwarz has been the CEO of Sun for quite some time now?
You do know that global warming is caused by trapping heat FROM THE SUN, right?
Yes, and we can measure the varying input FROM THE SUN and most people have come to the conclusion that the increase in global temperatures can not be explained by changes in sunspot activity (or 11 year cycles, or 20 year cycles or what the current theory is). Which is what Black Parrot was referring to.
This year has been far colder than usual,
So a single data point (a single year) is suddenly incredibly significant now that it supports YOUR side of the argument?
and indeed scientists say that it's due to reduced solar activity.
Would you like to give references to some of these scientists?
I didn't realise /. had started posting links to things the submitter happened to find amusing today.
Then you honestly can't have been here very long. The foot icon appears at least a couple of times a week on the frontpage and indicates a "funny" story submission. If it displeases you, you can filter away these stories in your preferences.
Gasp, cant we admit MS was on the right side for once.
Well, I doubt they supported HDDVD because of any techical superiority, they just wanted a monopoly on home entertainment just like they have over operating systems and office documents today.
It was the superior format with no region encoding
Many Blu-ray discs are sold without region encoding...though I admit I would rather have seen a standard completely without it.
PCs get outdated far more quickly than consoles. In five years you'll still be able to buy and play wii games. In five years you'll have had to spend several grand to keep your PC up to date.
Not really. That presumes that you buy the last generation of graphics cards/cpus, top of the line, and only play the current "ooh-shiny" game (currently - Crysis) but you don't have to that.
My favorite anecdote about US news channels is about Fox news (naturally), as described in the book "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot":
Still, getting back to this particular case - it seems Slashdot consensus is overwhelmingly "Oh my God he got fired for speaking teh truth!!!", but did you look at some earlier posts on his blog? Like the one where he does a "Anonymous vs Scientology" style rant against Oprah and finished with something like "Remember, we are going to get you. Bitch." He might be allowed by US law to say it as a private person (though I think it is pretty low), but I can in fact understand a company not wanting their name associated with something like that.
If 45% of respondents on a tech- and media-crazy site like Slashdot don't care, then that's close enough to "humanity as a whole doesn't give a shit" for me.
Perhaps, but non-tech savvy people can easily be swayed into thinking "I must have this!!" based on commercials...
now if they'll only halt construction on devices related to blu-ray, I can finally stop hearing about this irrelevant crap. The slashdot poll said it best: no one gives a shit.
Actually, at the time of writing, 45% in the Slashdot poll claims not to care about Blu-ray. Hardly everyone, even if Slashdot was representative of humanity as a whole.
I find it enormously ironic that you answer a well reasoned and well researched post with a massive ad-hominem rant... and you sincerely believe that YOU are the rational and scientific one. Unbelievable.
Screw spending more and more money on newer graphics cards, CPUs, mobos, etc.
I'm getting this game for Wii.
Screw paying for a soon-outdated single purpose device when I have a multi-purpose device that has a bigger gaming library and better graphics.
I'm getting this game for PC.
A few months ago, we discussed Microsoft's intention to open source the .NET libraries.
Yes, and as one of the first posters pointed out, unlike Java for instance, this is NOT being published under an open source licence, Microsoft even says so. So why do you keep using the term?
Damn it! Now they will rewrite it in Java. It will no longer be the fastest database engine, after the rewrite, it will certainly be the slowest.
Sun already has an embeddable db engine written in Java called Derby. It has pretty impressive features and performance.
High Def porn is a good thing. If you like what you're looking at then more def is usually good. Hell a real female is infinitely more "hi def" than the TV is they are still generally prefered over porn.
Yes but real people don't have genitals the size of 42" screens and razor pimples the size of tennis balls...
Just now, atleast in sweden, the Sony PS3 is the cheapest BlueRay player
So I would say that Sony is the winner
Webhallen has this for PCs for 1695 kr... but perhaps you meant standalone players, eller?
Porn studios showed the way.
The myth that it was the porn studios who cased VHS to win over Betamax has been pretty thoroughly debunked... besides, even if it was so, this does not mean it must happen again 20 years later -
*People can get porn online easily these days.
*Porn might be one of the few genres that DON'T benefit from high-definition.
Paramount already denied this:
There has been a blitz of these "the war is over, HD DVD is doomed" stories last couple of days, and sites post them very uncritically. Same with political "assassinations" online, doesn't matter how many times they are refuted, the lies live on and will probably enter the history books one day.