IANAL Either...However, if I'm not mistaken, Trump can still bring a civil suit against that employee and make his life a living legal hell, even if Trump has nothing on the guy legally speaking.
I'm having a hard time seeing how one can bring a lawsuit and make someone's life a "living hell" if they have nothing on the guy "legally speaking"...
Tech companies hire contractors, "Hacking Laws" are a mess, and A lawyer offered up the unsolicited advice that the contractor that may have violate a "messy" law should secure the services of a lawyer.
Wow, that Is "News for Nerds" - who knew any of the above?
Pity HRC couldnâ(TM)t beat Trump in the general election - I bet she was surprised to learn there were no âoesuper delegatesâ to buy off in the general election!
I've gone to a small physical therapy clinic and have ran into another patient that started physical therapy on the exact same day that I started with my exact full name and exact same date of birth. That was at just one (independent) clinic in one city.
The census bureau ranks the 100,000 most common surnames here, the 12,000 most common male first names here... Why not search the list and see just how common your first and last names are?
Same birthday (mm/dd) or birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy)? Define "exact full name", as in "spelled identically"?
Your claim is you met someone with the same first and last name (ignoring middle name, which is part of your legal name on your birth certificate and voter record, which is what we are talking about in the case of the Indiana law), and who not only shared your birthday (mm/dd), but was also born in the year as you? I find that doubtful - possible, yes, but very unlikely when birth year is considered.
The program Indiana is running considers birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy), first, last, and middle name. Ignoring name yields only about 11,000 matches nation-wide (11,000 births each day in America), weeding out by gender cuts that number in about half, THEN we can start to consider how many of those 5,000 or so young men share not only the same first but middle and last name. If we include the city of birth, the likelihood of a false match drops even further.
The first name Michael is shared by 180,000 Americans, the last name Bolton is shared by 32,000 Americans, but how many Michael Boltons have you met - ignoring birthday/birthdate?
Every day in America there are about 11,000 births - so out of 320 Million people, only 11,000 or so share your birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy), if we factor in an expected lifespan of say 70 years, that means there are about 770,000 people that share your birthday (mm/dd).
Out of those 11,000 people that share your birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy), how many share your full, legal name?
So what are the odds that of the 11,000 births that occur each day result in more than one child with a first name of "James", a surname of "Smith" AND share the same middle name? Twenty seven? The database analyst is on shaky mathematical grounds when he says that there might be as many as 27 name/birthdate matches for a common name - I think he confuses the more common birthday (mm/dd) with the birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy) the Indiana law specifies.
There are hundreds of people with my exact full name in the state of California. I do not know how many share a date of birth with me, but I'd be surprised if the answer was 0.
I wouldn't be surprised - sharing a birthday (Like October 31st) is trivial, sharing a birth date (October 31st, 1972) is exceptionally rare. The odds of you ever meeting someone with exactly your same birth date (mm/dd/yyyy) - ignoring their name - is extremely unusual; factor in that their name has to match also and it will likely never happen.
In the United States, there are about 10,829 births per day - and out of those 10,829 births the odds of two mothers, both named "Smith", with both deliver male children and both will name their children "John" (neither choosing "Jon" or "Johnathan") seems pretty small to me - not zero, but pretty small.
There are lots of people named "Smith" - tons of them. There are a large number of people named "John Smith" - lots of them. There are likely a fair number of people named "John Smith" with birthdays of October 31st. But do you really think there are that many people named "John Smith" that celebrate their birthdays on October 31st and are EXACTLY the same age (in other words they share a birth DATE, not just a birth DAY)?
The surname smith accounts for about 1% of the population, the first name James accounts for about 3.318% of the population, so that gives us a one out of 100 chance that a child will be have a surname of "Smith", and a 1 out of thirty chance that that child with the smith surname will have a first name of "James". I defer to statisticians to do the math.
The program is correct, the new law is the problem.
If you consider the law recently passed as the requirements for the program, as long as the program faithfully does what is required by the law, you canâ(TM)t say the program is wrong - the law is wrong, the database is inadequate, but the program is working as the law intended/required.
The suggestion is it's in the unequal application of the rule.
Unequal how? The rule is applied equally to all registered voters, and only kicks voter registrations with the same name and BIRTH DATE (not birth day, birth date)...
How many of those Jose Garciaâ(TM)s in 27 states share the EXACT SAME BIRTH DATE (not just same year, same month, or same date of month, but all three EXACTLY the same?) - That is required to be a candidate to be kicked from the voting polls...
the Program was specâ(TM)ed to comport with the new law, the new law sets useless/inaccurate criteria for deleting voters - itâ(TM)s the law that is wrong, not the program.
And about that 99% error rate cited - obviously, this software makes one decision with two possible outcomes, delete or keep each particular voter. For the error rate to be 99% the software would have to make the wrong decision 99% of the time a given voter is NOT on the interstate data base also - and no one says it is.
The requirements were wrong, the software works as it should.
When the law is changed, the program will be adjusted to comply with the law.
Iâ(TM)m not sure how a selection based EXCLUSIVELY on name and birth date is biased against people of color/minorities - anyone care to explain? Do people of color tend to use a very constrained set of first and last names, or do the tend to base the name of their child on the date they were born?
Can the people behind the lawsuit prove that there is a bias that causes people of color to be more likely than people with no color to be incorrectly knock off the poll.
Seriously, expect the Democrats to run another "novelty" candidate. They learned when they ran Obama that it was a trivial exercise to label all opposition to his proposals as "racially-motivated", and with Hillary's stunning defeat in 2016 (herself another novelty candidate, this time the first female candidate), Democrats are desperately working to make her loss about anything other than the obvious result of a poorly-run campaign that literally ignored a handful of key strong democrat states by choice, only to find itself scrambling for a reason, any reason other than their candidates strong negatives in much of America and a poorly-run election.
The next candidate will be as opposite to Hillary as possible, I predict a young, Hispanic, male will be the "chosen" by DNC "Super Delegates" (not the primary voters) to run against Trump - and he will lose to Trump because the entire Democrat Party is 100% focused on re-litigating the 2016 election, attacking the sitting President, and never putting forward any serious legislative ideas.
When asked about the budget, healthcare reform, tax reform, etc Democrats say they'll vote against it all because they don't like Trump, despite agreeing that all are in need of serious reform. They put party ahead of country, and proudly say so at every press conference and sunday morning show appearance, in terms even the slowest liberal can understand, and the think this is how they'll win over undecided voters in 2018/2020?
I'd love to think this would mean the lawsuit would be "confirmed" because the machine couldn't (now) be verified, even though well within the require data retention period. Knowing how these things work though, it'll get thrown out for lack of evidence instead.
Yeah, that pesky "Innocent until proven guilty" thing is sooo last century!
What? You bought her "aw shucks, gee whiz" performance?
With malice of forethought she NEVER, EVER logged in or in any way touched a government email account in her entire term as Secretary of State because, being so backwards technically, she found it easier to hire her own IT consultant, have a server built and managed on her own dime, and have to tell everyone she worked with her email was not hrc@state,gov but instead Hillary@hrc45.com?
Hillary somehow "for simplicity sake" abandoned her official email that she used as a US Senator opting for one run by a guy that does IT work on the side when she stepped into Obama's Cabinet?
As an Ivy League educated lawyer, who was on the wrong side of dozens and dozens of "he said, she said" lawsuits and investigations, you honestly believe she has no idea how emails can derail a political career?
We're still 40,000 pages of Clinton emails away from having reviewed them all - the investigations are on-going because her allies and supporters are slow-walking the investigation.
No one is directly stopping them from kneeling but the entire point of the boycott is to force the NFL to ban kneeling.
No, the point is to stop them from kneeling.
The people boycotting the NFL are simply choosing not to support players, teams, league that (in their opinion) dis-respect the flag, and the fallen soldiers the playing of the anthem before a game is meant to honor.
But what's different about this? The NFLPA. The players are member of a union and there is a valid contract in place that governs what the owners can and can't do to the players about kneeling.
And the owners have the explicit right to control the behavior of the players when they wear their uniforms while representing the team on the field of play... that Rodger Goddell chooses to pretend they donâ(TM)t doesnâ(TM)tchange that simple fact.
Teachers get paid to get certs, they are paid to create/Update lesson plans during the summer, they are paid for most after school activities, and they get full medical, job security via tenure, and retirement benefits the people paying for them canâ(TM)t get.
In many states, entry-level teaching jobs pay at or above the state average FAMILY income. Teacherâ(TM)s donâ(TM)t have it nearly as hard as they like to pretend they do.
Do you know what a first-year teacher in your school district is paid? First year teachers are right out of college and have ZERO work experience.
Maybe, we just have our priorities all assed up...
Do you know who it is that insists we view teachers as interchangeable cogs, refusing to allow incentive or merit pay structures?
The teachers unions.
The teachers unions fight against merit pay, performance bonuses, or other mechanisms that might help schools to identify not only teachers that excel in their fields, but might also point out those that are failing to teach/inspire their students.
Iâ(TM)ve lived in a school district where the kindergarten teachers, because of time in job, earned over $85K/year, double what a starting teacher earns - that community valued their teachers, I dare say.
The CS AP class is a way for high school students to place out of a freshman year computer science class - nothing more.
I guess flooding the state with thousands of college freshmen that can program âoeHello, World!â In Python or Scratch is worth more than providing a similar incentive for any of the real sciences like chemistry, physics, math, etc.
You probably also consider it a coincidence that better than 90% of all mass-shootings over the past several decades all occurred in so-called âoegun-free zonesâ, where attackers could be certain their victims were unarmed/defenseless.
Do you know what a white Texan calls an armed black Texan? Neighbor.
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IANAL Either...However, if I'm not mistaken, Trump can still bring a civil suit against that employee and make his life a living legal hell, even if Trump has nothing on the guy legally speaking.
I'm having a hard time seeing how one can bring a lawsuit and make someone's life a "living hell" if they have nothing on the guy "legally speaking"...
Tech companies hire contractors,
"Hacking Laws" are a mess, and
A lawyer offered up the unsolicited advice that the contractor that may have violate a "messy" law should secure the services of a lawyer.
Wow, that Is "News for Nerds" - who knew any of the above?
Pity HRC couldnâ(TM)t beat Trump in the general election - I bet she was surprised to learn there were no âoesuper delegatesâ to buy off in the general election!
Tell him this is Al Caponeâ(TM)s vault!
I've gone to a small physical therapy clinic and have ran into another patient that started physical therapy on the exact same day that I started with my exact full name and exact same date of birth. That was at just one (independent) clinic in one city.
The census bureau ranks the 100,000 most common surnames here, the 12,000 most common male first names here... Why not search the list and see just how common your first and last names are?
Same birthday (mm/dd) or birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy)? Define "exact full name", as in "spelled identically"?
Your claim is you met someone with the same first and last name (ignoring middle name, which is part of your legal name on your birth certificate and voter record, which is what we are talking about in the case of the Indiana law), and who not only shared your birthday (mm/dd), but was also born in the year as you? I find that doubtful - possible, yes, but very unlikely when birth year is considered.
The program Indiana is running considers birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy), first, last, and middle name. Ignoring name yields only about 11,000 matches nation-wide (11,000 births each day in America), weeding out by gender cuts that number in about half, THEN we can start to consider how many of those 5,000 or so young men share not only the same first but middle and last name. If we include the city of birth, the likelihood of a false match drops even further.
The first name Michael is shared by 180,000 Americans, the last name Bolton is shared by 32,000 Americans, but how many Michael Boltons have you met - ignoring birthday/birthdate?
Every day in America there are about 11,000 births - so out of 320 Million people, only 11,000 or so share your birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy), if we factor in an expected lifespan of say 70 years, that means there are about 770,000 people that share your birthday (mm/dd).
Out of those 11,000 people that share your birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy), how many share your full, legal name?
The most popular surname "Smith" accounts for about 1% of the population.
The first name "James" accounts for about 3.318% of the population.
I could find no resource on middle names.
So what are the odds that of the 11,000 births that occur each day result in more than one child with a first name of "James", a surname of "Smith" AND share the same middle name? Twenty seven? The database analyst is on shaky mathematical grounds when he says that there might be as many as 27 name/birthdate matches for a common name - I think he confuses the more common birthday (mm/dd) with the birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy) the Indiana law specifies.
There are hundreds of people with my exact full name in the state of California. I do not know how many share a date of birth with me, but I'd be surprised if the answer was 0.
I wouldn't be surprised - sharing a birthday (Like October 31st) is trivial, sharing a birth date (October 31st, 1972) is exceptionally rare. The odds of you ever meeting someone with exactly your same birth date (mm/dd/yyyy) - ignoring their name - is extremely unusual; factor in that their name has to match also and it will likely never happen.
In the United States, there are about 10,829 births per day - and out of those 10,829 births the odds of two mothers, both named "Smith", with both deliver male children and both will name their children "John" (neither choosing "Jon" or "Johnathan") seems pretty small to me - not zero, but pretty small.
There are lots of people named "Smith" - tons of them.
There are a large number of people named "John Smith" - lots of them.
There are likely a fair number of people named "John Smith" with birthdays of October 31st.
But do you really think there are that many people named "John Smith" that celebrate their birthdays on October 31st and are EXACTLY the same age (in other words they share a birth DATE, not just a birth DAY)?
The surname smith accounts for about 1% of the population, the first name James accounts for about 3.318% of the population, so that gives us a one out of 100 chance that a child will be have a surname of "Smith", and a 1 out of thirty chance that that child with the smith surname will have a first name of "James". I defer to statisticians to do the math.
The program is correct, the new law is the problem.
If you consider the law recently passed as the requirements for the program, as long as the program faithfully does what is required by the law, you canâ(TM)t say the program is wrong - the law is wrong, the database is inadequate, but the program is working as the law intended/required.
The suggestion is it's in the unequal application of the rule.
Unequal how? The rule is applied equally to all registered voters, and only kicks voter registrations with the same name and BIRTH DATE (not birth day, birth date)...
That explains all the Muslim children born on Sept. 11 2001 that are named âTwin Towersâ(TM)
How many of those Jose Garciaâ(TM)s in 27 states share the EXACT SAME BIRTH DATE (not just same year, same month, or same date of month, but all three EXACTLY the same?) - That is required to be a candidate to be kicked from the voting polls...
the Program was specâ(TM)ed to comport with the new law, the new law sets useless/inaccurate criteria for deleting voters - itâ(TM)s the law that is wrong, not the program.
And about that 99% error rate cited - obviously, this software makes one decision with two possible outcomes, delete or keep each particular voter. For the error rate to be 99% the software would have to make the wrong decision 99% of the time a given voter is NOT on the interstate data base also - and no one says it is.
The requirements were wrong, the software works as it should.
When the law is changed, the program will be adjusted to comply with the law.
Iâ(TM)m not sure how a selection based EXCLUSIVELY on name and birth date is biased against people of color/minorities - anyone care to explain? Do people of color tend to use a very constrained set of first and last names, or do the tend to base the name of their child on the date they were born?
Can the people behind the lawsuit prove that there is a bias that causes people of color to be more likely than people with no color to be incorrectly knock off the poll.
Mueller is spotless. There is no plausible reason to fire him other than to obstruct justice.
Uh, no. Mueller was the head of the FBI when it was investigating Russian bribery and influence attempts during the Uranium One deal, but didn't think it prudent to share the existence of his investigations as the federal government considered approving the deal.
Seriously, expect the Democrats to run another "novelty" candidate. They learned when they ran Obama that it was a trivial exercise to label all opposition to his proposals as "racially-motivated", and with Hillary's stunning defeat in 2016 (herself another novelty candidate, this time the first female candidate), Democrats are desperately working to make her loss about anything other than the obvious result of a poorly-run campaign that literally ignored a handful of key strong democrat states by choice, only to find itself scrambling for a reason, any reason other than their candidates strong negatives in much of America and a poorly-run election.
The next candidate will be as opposite to Hillary as possible, I predict a young, Hispanic, male will be the "chosen" by DNC "Super Delegates" (not the primary voters) to run against Trump - and he will lose to Trump because the entire Democrat Party is 100% focused on re-litigating the 2016 election, attacking the sitting President, and never putting forward any serious legislative ideas.
When asked about the budget, healthcare reform, tax reform, etc Democrats say they'll vote against it all because they don't like Trump, despite agreeing that all are in need of serious reform. They put party ahead of country, and proudly say so at every press conference and sunday morning show appearance, in terms even the slowest liberal can understand, and the think this is how they'll win over undecided voters in 2018/2020?
I'd love to think this would mean the lawsuit would be "confirmed" because the machine couldn't (now) be verified, even though well within the require data retention period. Knowing how these things work though, it'll get thrown out for lack of evidence instead.
Yeah, that pesky "Innocent until proven guilty" thing is sooo last century!
And still the DNC never had denied the FBI access to the server.
Why, you almost make it sound like the FBI never wanted the physical server... But as reported in January, 2017 I don't believe that to be the case.
a lady who poorly managed her IT
What? You bought her "aw shucks, gee whiz" performance?
With malice of forethought she NEVER, EVER logged in or in any way touched a government email account in her entire term as Secretary of State because, being so backwards technically, she found it easier to hire her own IT consultant, have a server built and managed on her own dime, and have to tell everyone she worked with her email was not hrc@state,gov but instead Hillary@hrc45.com?
Hillary somehow "for simplicity sake" abandoned her official email that she used as a US Senator opting for one run by a guy that does IT work on the side when she stepped into Obama's Cabinet?
As an Ivy League educated lawyer, who was on the wrong side of dozens and dozens of "he said, she said" lawsuits and investigations, you honestly believe she has no idea how emails can derail a political career?
A computer at the center of a lawsuit digging into Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election has been wiped.
"What, like with a cloth or something??" - That never gets old...
We're still 40,000 pages of Clinton emails away from having reviewed them all - the investigations are on-going because her allies and supporters are slow-walking the investigation.
You used an iPhone with the latest OS update. I don't know quite what changed, but something did...
No one is directly stopping them from kneeling but the entire point of the boycott is to force the NFL to ban kneeling.
No, the point is to stop them from kneeling.
The people boycotting the NFL are simply choosing not to support players, teams, league that (in their opinion) dis-respect the flag, and the fallen soldiers the playing of the anthem before a game is meant to honor.
But what's different about this? The NFLPA. The players are member of a union and there is a valid contract in place that governs what the owners can and can't do to the players about kneeling.
And the owners have the explicit right to control the behavior of the players when they wear their uniforms while representing the team on the field of play... that Rodger Goddell chooses to pretend they donâ(TM)t doesnâ(TM)tchange that simple fact.
Teachers get paid to get certs, they are paid to create/Update lesson plans during the summer, they are paid for most after school activities, and they get full medical, job security via tenure, and retirement benefits the people paying for them canâ(TM)t get.
In many states, entry-level teaching jobs pay at or above the state average FAMILY income. Teacherâ(TM)s donâ(TM)t have it nearly as hard as they like to pretend they do.
Do you know what a first-year teacher in your school district is paid? First year teachers are right out of college and have ZERO work experience.
Maybe, we just have our priorities all assed up...
Do you know who it is that insists we view teachers as interchangeable cogs, refusing to allow incentive or merit pay structures?
The teachers unions.
The teachers unions fight against merit pay, performance bonuses, or other mechanisms that might help schools to identify not only teachers that excel in their fields, but might also point out those that are failing to teach/inspire their students.
Iâ(TM)ve lived in a school district where the kindergarten teachers, because of time in job, earned over $85K/year, double what a starting teacher earns - that community valued their teachers, I dare say.
The CS AP class is a way for high school students to place out of a freshman year computer science class - nothing more.
I guess flooding the state with thousands of college freshmen that can program âoeHello, World!â In Python or Scratch is worth more than providing a similar incentive for any of the real sciences like chemistry, physics, math, etc.
The NRA has a proud history of fighting to support African Americans rights to armed self-defense, but you knew that, right?
You probably also consider it a coincidence that better than 90% of all mass-shootings over the past several decades all occurred in so-called âoegun-free zonesâ, where attackers could be certain their victims were unarmed/defenseless.
Do you know what a white Texan calls an armed black Texan? Neighbor.