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Congress Opens Probe Into FBI's Handling of Clinton Email Investigation (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Two House committees announced Tuesday that they would conduct a joint probe into the FBI's handling of the Clinton e-mail investigation. The Clinton investigation concluded with no charges being levied against the former secretary of state who was running for president under the Democratic ticket. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said in a joint statement that they are unsatisfied with how the probe into Clinton's private e-mail server concluded. Among other things, the chairmen want to know why the bureau publicly said it was investigating Clinton while keeping silent that it was looking into President Donald Trump's campaign associates and their connections to Russia.
"Our justice system is represented by a blind-folded woman holding a set of scales. Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status," Goodlatte and Gowdy said in a joint statement. "The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight."
"Our justice system is represented by a blind-folded woman holding a set of scales. Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status," Goodlatte and Gowdy said in a joint statement. "The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight."
Hillary's for prison!
Bernie would have won
The 4 dead service members from last week and the absolute cluster fuck that resulted in their deaths... but at least we are on top of this... thank god.
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
One wonder if Gowdy will manage to show up for more than 20% of the witness testimony this time. Or is he just going to implicitly acknowledge that this is a gigantic waste of time and money, and serves as nothing other than a distraction from what a colossal clusterfuck the Trump presidency has been thus far?
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
Drain the swamp
You keep doing it, ad infinitum.
Let me predicate this by stating I am a 54 year old Republican who loathes Hillary
But please never link any political crap here again. Please?
'I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life.' ~ Four Leaf Tayback
For anyone who has forgotten what we know about this.
We should also mention that we have emails, from the FBI, showing that she had things like classified pictures of NK in there. Yeah, sure, sending it off to her uncleared staff to print it out on insecure printers is totally a good idea. It's not like this is a crazy little country with nuclear missiles or something. Let's just make sure the Chinese know how much we know about their little brother Kim's big missiles. I'm sure that's totally reasonable....
"No entity or individual is exempt from oversight."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Oh good one, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. :wipes tear from eye:
Still focusing on emails that were examined and re-examined finding now crimes whatsoever while treasonously pretending the Moscow Donald didn't collude with Russia's ongoing attacks on America.
I'm personally glad they're doing it, but this news doesn't belong AT ALL on slashdot.
-Styopa
Nothing like distraction to keep idiots busy while you rob them blind, eh Donald?
Couldn’t be bothered when it happened or even discuss it but now the GOP Congress is investigating it - slashdot bothers to post an article about how this is just to deflect from the Trump Russia investigation.
At last count, all but 2 of the current WH cabinet and relatives of the Russian there had been illegally deleting emails, social media, and not doing their jobs.
Sure, let's go off and pretend that's ok.
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We need independent prosecutor to gather evidence to convict trump of gross negligence and Treason by essentially allowing the slaughter of US service members in Niger. Impeachment is simply not enough for negligence of this magnitude, we need to see serious and long term jail time. Not even a year in, and multiple impeachable offenses and convictable crimes. OMG.
If itâ(TM)s ok to investigate Obama over his birth certificate.. an offense allegedly and speculated to have been committed decades ago, why canâ(TM)t we investigate Trumpâ(TM)s draft dodging? Last I checked draft dodging was a crime. Some other guy had to go die in Vietnam because Trump paid his way out of the draft. Anyway at the very least we should investigate how bone spurs can disappear over time. You never know, Trump might get the Nobel prize for medicine for such a discovery.
Oh yeah - the old 'IOIYAR' rule - "It's Ok If You're A Republican".
Sodomizing underage boys, and paying them hush money (Hastert) - it's ok if you're a Republican.
Serial adultery (Gingrich, Giuliani, Trump, etc, etc, etc) - it's ok if you're a Republican
Intentionally breaking laws you just don't like (Ollie North) - it's ok if you're a Republican
The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight.
LOL
*snort*
That ranks up there as one of the biggest piles of unadulterated bullshit I've ever seen. I don't care which tribe you subscribe to, everyone should realize that our justice system is anything but evenhanded or impartial.
THE SOFTWARE, IT NO WORKY!!!
The problem with someone crying wolf is that after a while no one believes them. I don't know if there is any substance to any uranium mining. I just hear the same outrage I heard about Benghazi that turned out to be nothing but fake outrage after many years and many investigations.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
It'll be interesting to see what the conclusion will be now that there's no longer a predetermined conclusion. The odds that a Democratic administration was going to bring charges against the Democratic nominee for president were statistically zero.
"Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status".
Ha ha, very funny. Of course they don't! The rich, powerful, and politically connected always get EXACTLY the same treatment as the poor from the justice system.
Being on good social term with the judge, the DA, or the Attorney General could never do an accused person the slightest good. And the prosecution would be just as likely to frame up a wealthy, influential political donor as the lowest miscreant.
Yes, folks, thank goodness it's a government of laws, not persons!
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
hard to argue with results like the last election. Besides, the Dems are a headless dragon right now. There's no leadership whatsoever (no, Pelosi and that wet mop of a wannabe Republican got got elected chairman don't count). If you want to keep hammering the Dems (and they do) you've got to go after a target that can rile your base.
Oh, and somehow Hilary is _still_ polling less popular than Trump even after he got into yet another fight with a Gold Star family member.
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Not necessarily. Crimes can have different requirements in terms of mental culpability (the pretentious legal jargon is "mens rea," for those who are into that sort of thing). Different jurisdictions have different schemes, but it generally boils down to something like intentionally (i.e. purposefully mishandled classified information or whatnot), knowingly (didn't aim to mishandle, but knew it was happening), recklessly (ignored a high probability of mishandling), or negligently (should have known). Note that these apply to the act itself (here, the mishandling of data), not whether what you're doing is illegal or not (i.e. ignorance is not a defense). The most famous example of this in action is likely homicide, where you usually have something like first degree murder, second degree murder, manslaughter, negligent homicide, etc. based on the mental state of the defendant. ...", in which case your statement would be false. ...Or maybe you're just spouting off from righteous indignation, the law be damned, in which case you deserve the (Score: -1, Troll) you're currently modded at.
So, applying to this situation, it could very well be that the relevant statute reads something like "whoever knowingly mishandles classified information
IAAL but don't practice criminal law, so you'll have to forgive me if I missed a detail above.
They should have waited until next SUMMER right before the Mid-Terms to pick this up again! Then they could distract the public from Trump and show the people how the Republicans are standing up for Truth, Justice and the American way (Cue jets flying over and Star Spangled Banner playing)
Pffft! Amateurs.
Well, my patform for the primary is I'm Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Tax reduction, the other guy is a Rino who hates TRUMP!! MAGA!!!!
However, after I win the Rep primary, my political ads in my deeply red state is gonna be:
*Me, smoking a big fat cigar with my feet on my desk and a hottie - questionably older than 17 - sitting my lap*
"I got a fucking 'R' by my name. What'ya gonna do?! Vote for the Democrat?! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!"
*Glugs out of a half gallon bottle of Jack Daniels and grabs the girl's tit.*
Are they going to investigate the many people currently in the Trump administration utilizing private email servers? After months of yelling "Lock Her Up", Kushner, the presidential advisor, creates his own private email account to conduct business relating to the Trump presidential transition. Hmm? I guess just ignore that? Not saying that utilizing a private email server is a good idea, but Colin Powell did the exact same thing -- you know, the previous Secretary of State under Bush Jr. But perhaps Representative Gowdy is unable to comprehend investigating a fellow Republican?
"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone, and people would still vote for me."
Yes, Trump fuckers. I will post this delightfull quote from your beloved peodophile in chief every chance I get, or untill I'm IP banned.
And downmodding me to hell won't change the fact that you knowingly, freely, and willfully elected for president a man who thinks that you're all fucking morons, and told you to your face.
Ignorance is no excuse (can't claim it) - THIS is EXACTLY how I'd "take her out" as a former attorney & secretary of state - DoD didn't secure those servers either (& she CANNOT bullshit she "didn't know" THAT is HOW it is correctly done).
* FRY THE BITCH!
(I'd be MORE than willing to BET that is HOW it WILL be done!)
SOMEONE IS VERY AFRAID OF THIS APPARENTLY HAVING TO PUNILY ATTEMPT TO 'BLOCK IT' VIA EFFETE INEFFECTUAL DOWNMODS LAST TIME I POSTED IT https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11269319&cid=55426143/ Hahahahahaha - weak!
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Don't you have a host file somewhere to harass.
After like 20something years of hating the Clintonâ(TM)s, Republicans donâ(TM)t know what to do with themselves now that there are no Clintonâ(TM)s in political office. Trumpâ(TM)s whole campaign was basically âoeIf Obama did it, Iâ(TM)m against it, and will do the opposite (even if itâ(TM)s batshit crazy and is against the interests of the people who voted for me)!â So now he doesnâ(TM)t have an agenda except to keep blaming Obama or Clinton for everything. The man is incapable of letting go of even the most minor of slights against him making it impossible for him to get out of his own way.
I genuinely believe that subconsciously Trump is sabotaging himself because he never wanted to be president. Now that he is, he realizes just how in over his head he is, but his ego wonâ(TM)t let him just admit that he was wrong, so he performs all these different acts of self-sabotage. Quite probably in the hopes that he will be impeached and removed from office. That way he has an external factor to blame for his misfortune. If I thought he could think on this level I would say heâ(TM)s deliberately trying to give Democrats control of Congress in the midterms so when his agenda goes exactly nowhere he can blame it on the Democrats in Congress. However, nothing I have ever seen makes me think he is legitimately able to operate on that level.
http://www.businessinsider.com/devin-nunes-clintons-probe-us-russia-uranium-deal-2017-10
The New York Times reported in 2015 that "as the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation." The Times' reporting built off of "Clinton Cash," a book by the conservative author Peter Schweizer that the Clintons dismissed as partisan conspiracy-mongering.
The Hill's report largely echoed those claims, alleging that Russian officials tried to "ingratiate themselves with the Clintons" by transferring "millions of dollars from Russia's nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton's foundation."
The Hill further alleged that the FBI had found evidence that the Russian official who oversaw Russian President Vladimir Putin's "nuclear expansion inside the US" had been engaging in bribery and extortion.
Did U Know? That the "20% of US uranium deposits" never left the United States? Did you also know that it was never intended to leave the United States?
https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML103...
Russia can mine the uranium, but it has not, and can not, ever leave the United States.
You are welcome on my lawn.
No harm was done. There's just a lot of speculation and all these "what could have happened." fantasies - no actual evidence.
The ONLY reason the emails were even discovered was because of the Benghazi witch hunt. And as we found out, it was all because the Pentagon didn't have any "military assets" (as they put it) close enough to respond. NOTHING to do with Clinton.
So, I'm bored now. The emails are an irrelevant issue.
In the meantime, I'm concerned about what's going to happen to NAFTA, healthcare and the ACA, and what's up with Trump's executive order allowing the Pentagon to pull service people out of retirement. WTF is he going to do?
The last thing this country needs is yet another endless war.
See subject: "Develop & expose - I feed upon your EVERY THOUGHT (& so my power grows)" https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11269319&cid=55426313/
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There were crimes discovered. Read the FBI directorâ(TM)s statement to the press again.
If he shot you. I'd still vote for him.
Goody: So spit it out, you spineless Clinton toady. Why did you refuse to mention the Trump investigation while trumpeting how you wouldnâ(TM)t charge Hillary?
Comey: Because her emails tipped us off to Russiaâ(TM)s collusion with Trump.
Correct Title is "Trey Gowdy, having no evidence of any crimes, desperate to change the current subject before Congress ie treason in the Trump Campaign, demands an EIGHTH chance at Hillary.
And downmodding me to hell won't change the fact that you knowingly, freely, and willfully elected for president a man who knows that you're all fucking morons, and told you to your face.
FTFY
And also they're investigating the Uranium One deal that Lou Dobbs said was potentially the worst political scandal in US history.
When dealing with classified materials, there is no requirement for intent. The army was very clear about that when I got my clearance, and a couple of friends lost rank and spent time in military prison despite the fact there was no intent. The FBI is holding the former Secretary of State to less of a standard than we held even 18 year-old privates in the military.
This is a serious question because you can likely speak with much more expert authority than most of the knuckle draggers around here: if they were briefed on proper handling of classified info, and expressly forbidden to access that data on any system outside of secured vaults and computers, when does it become negligence when you actively look to defeat those compartmentalizations in the sake of convenience?
Iâ(TM)m asking because thatâ(TM)s basically what happened. And no, I am not some âoelock her up!â chanting simpleton; I am really interested in what looks to be a bewildering choice by the FBI director.
What about starting some endless investigations into the Trump administration's failure in the country of Niger?
"Lock him up! Lock him up!"
Oooh, look useless fat fuck APK has escaped from the cunt farm again and is dribbling his insane delusions, aww, poor virgin micro dick.
At the bare minimum, her security clearance should be revoked, and she forbidden from ever touching classified again.
That would be the minimum that would happen to anyone who has clearance, and set up a private server with secret and TOP secret materials on it.
Yes, I did have secret clearance, so I have had the briefing.
Again, I don't practice criminal law (IAALBIDPCL?) but your characterization would rise to the level of at least recklessness, I'm sure. I'm not here for a political argument, just wanted to point out that OP's blanket statement regarding intent is only true under some circumstances. Anyway, it seems to be moot since, as fellow AC above points out, there is no intent requirement for this stuff.
I just hear the same outrage I heard about Benghazi that turned out to be nothing but fake outrage after many years and many investigations.
According to the truth, or to your childlike faith in corporate media? Benghazi was the start of a proxy war that showed the world how truly evil the U.S. federal government has become.
Trump is more than happy that you complain his administration is a clusterfuck. because it keeps you and the other sheeple ignorant as to real changes he is making.
I say that as an outsider to both parties, able to see when the Democrats are clearly being snookered and going down a really bad path.
Speaking of wondering about such an investigation, one "wonders" if the investigation will do anything about the FBI director drafting orders to clear Hillary months before the investigation was over...
That is the kind of people you and other Democrats are backing. On purpose it would seem! I almost have to wonder if you are in fact an agent of Trump, working on multiple fronts to make people think Trump is not really doing anything... I mean, if I was a hypothetical Trump agent I can't imaging doing anything differently than what you are doing right now.
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"Our justice system is represented by a blind-folded woman holding a set of scales. Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status," Goodlatte and Gowdy said in a joint statement. "The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight."
And the award for Best Comedy of All Time goes to...
At least Trump tells it like it is. What would HRC do? Be awful and then deny being awful?
How could you possibly know no harm was done as a result of this data being leaked? You don't know who has seen it or what their plans are. Why are you lying?
The emails are highly relevant to me. I have a DOD clearance. I'd go to jail if I did this. I don't believe in a political or economic class being above the law - she can hang like anyone else would.
If we're lucky, NAFTA will get scrapped and ACA will get repealed. Two big piles of shit.
The charge would be unauthorized release of classified info. So who authorizes it? A judge? Nope. As the Secretary of State she had ultimate authority of classification of anything originating from her office, which was the entire state department. From a legal standpoint, if the Secretary of State emails their staff classified information originating from the State Department, they are de-facto declassifying it. That is why the whole investigation is bizarre and why no charges were brought. You can debate whether this is good judgement or not, but the idea of anything happening legally is absurd.
This is yet another effort in futility by the congress. They are spending too much time and resources on probes against one and another. They need to be discussing the economy and how to create even more jobs, compete with China and a few others countries that are threatening to overtake the US in terms of global economic domination.
What happened to the government Of the people, For the people, by the people, with the Rule of law and justice and faithful execution over all politics as the commanding principle for all officials and government employees?
We are now probing investigations, because the investigation might have been done improperly.
How long before we have to investigate the investigation of the investigation?
OR how about a probe of the investigation of the investigation of the investigation of the investigation of X.
FINALLY how about an infinitely recursive investigation? We'll do an investigation of A and B, and investigation of the investigation of A and B, and the investigation of all potential investigations that cover A and B.
See subject & keep blowin' those useless 'downmodpoints' (I can post unlimitedly despite your fear based downmod) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11269319&cid=55426313/
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The charge would be unauthorized release of classified info. So who authorizes it? A judge? Nope. As the Secretary of State she had ultimate authority of classification of anything originating from her office, which was the entire state department. From a legal standpoint, if the Secretary of State emails their staff classified information originating from the State Department, they are de-facto declassifying it. That is why the whole investigation is bizarre and why no charges were brought. You can debate whether this is good judgement or not, but the idea of anything happening legally is absurd.
That isn't the way declassification works. Try educating yourself rather than repeating the misinformation you heard from some random source.
He's laughing at you https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11269319&cid=55426715/ and he's right. You're out of downmod bullets.
If Trump shot some SJWs, he would win the next 7 years with his eyes closed.
Dobbs is sugar coating it because he is a democrat. It is the biggest political scandal in US history.
Expect this "investigation" to go nowhere and produce no arrests. It's just another show investigation.
The Senate has had classified "behind closed doors" briefings twice now.
The general DC "swamp" of globalist foreign policy self-appointed so-called "experts" of the permanent political machne (AKA the people who've been getting us into these messes for decades becuase) are resisting deeper congressional digging (just as the similar swamp denizens in the justice department are still protecting Hillary) so it will probably be a while before the senate and then the public get full answers. Keep in mind though the two-faced nature of the swampy senators involved like McCain (R-AZ) and Feinstein (D-CA) who both actually support all these globalist policies and the covert military actions involved; they pretend to be outraged if these things are kept secret, but they go insane if Trump suggests pulling back from these actions (calling him a reckless isolationist) and they whine if the administration lets details out. The "deep state" sort are still trying to pressure Trump to keep some of the Kennedy assassination records secret.
Remember: Most of the people in government are carreer-types and/or Obama appointees (the Dems in the Senate are STILL blocking Trump appointees and the establishment Repubs are still helping in that effort). The same sort who were leaking everything for the past 8 months. This military op was very like the insanity of the globalist Clinton administration which is why it bears echoes of "black hawk down" - putting too few Americans into harms way with too little intel and then depending upon a foreign force (the UN, the French, etc) to bail them out when the going got rough. Very sad.
A common meme is: "The Republicans already tried to look into this and couldn't make anything stick. So clearly Hillary Clinton was innocent and the Republicans are just digging for dirt and hoping to find something." Variations on this have already been posted in this discussion.
What's extraordinary here is that the Director of the FBI intervened personally on Hillary Clinton's behalf. He wrote a draft of his speech exonerating her before the FBI ever interviewed her. Her aides were given broad immunity, which is usually used to compel people to talk[1], but then they were allowed to just say things like "I don't remember". Hillary Clinton, or someone working for her, wiped her email server after a subpoena was issued requiring her to hand it over to Congress, and there were absolutely no consequences from that. A usual FBI investigation would collect as much evidence as possible as early as possible, but that wasn't done in this case... the Anthony Weiner/Huma Abedin copies of Hillary Clinton emails were found during an investigation of Weiner, but they should have been found earlier. When the FBI is actually investigating they are thorough about collecting evidence. They should have grabbed every computer Hillary ever touched, and as Huma Abedin was an aide to Hillary, every computer Huma ever touched. (They could have copied the hard disks and given the computers back right away.)
Most extraordinary of all: the Director of the FBI claimed that "no reasonable prosecutor" would prosecute Hillary Clinton as no proof of ill intent was found, yet the laws she broke do not require intent but only require proof of mishandling of data.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447209/hillary-clinton-e-mail-investigation-grand-jury-subpoenas
Consider what happened to David Petraeus. He was guilty, but what he did wasn't even a tenth as serious as what Hillary Clinton did. But the Director of the FBI didn't whitewash the investigation for him, so his career was over. (By the way, he didn't go to prison, so he still got better treatment than the "little people" would get. Consider the case of Bryan H. Nishimura. I would say that what Nishimura did wasn't even a thousandth as serious as what Hillary Clinton did, but he was treated much more harshly than she was. Note that he wasn't charged with any "intent", just the mishandling of data.)
I'm pretty sure that if a member of the Trump administration mishandles classified data, he or she won't get the special treatment that Hillary Clinton got. But the Democrats will get a President elected again sometime in the future and I would like to get a precedent established that the laws apply to Democrats as much as to Trump and his staff. I know that the law is not enforced perfectly even-handedly in this country (or any country in the real world) but I am appalled at the epic whitewashing done on behalf of Hillary Clinton to protect
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GP: trump says his voters are morons.
YOU: Trump tells the truth. BUT HILLARY!!!111oneeleven!111
Me: well, you certainly proved Trump correct.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Too bad he was sabotaged by the Democrats.
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Couldn’t be bothered when it happened or even discuss it but now the GOP Congress is investigating it - slashdot bothers to post an article about how this is just to deflect from the Trump Russia investigation.
Are you fucking retarded? There were tons of stories posted to /. about this. Like this one:
https://news.slashdot.org/stor...
Or this one:
https://politics.slashdot.org/...
Or this one:
https://news.slashdot.org/stor...
Or this one:
https://yro.slashdot.org/story...
Or this one:
https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...
Or this one:
https://politics.slashdot.org/...
Or any of dozens of other stories. Are you really so deluded that you just block this shit out of your memory or are knowingly posting shit like this to get people to believe your "alternative facts"? It amazes me that people lie about stuff that can be fact-checked so easily, but I guess it's just an example of "follow the leader".
Enigma
Hell, I'd grab the ACs ID and vote for him twice.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Seriously. This was a talking point promulgated by the Democrat political teams this morning.
The probelm is that it may well be a complete screw-up but it's NOT benghazi.
First: It was not a totally predictable thing - Benghazi happened on the anniversary of 9-11 and the security on the ground communicated to the Clinton team that the locals were "casing" the site.
Second: There is not yet evidence that team Trump ignored MANY MONTHS of pleadings from the people lost for better security and more people before the event as happened in Benghazi.
Third: Trump has not send Susan Rice onto all the TV channels to tell the American people that this was caused by a youtube video, as Obama did, while the record now shows that the entire Obama admin KNEW all along it was a terror attack unconnected to any youtube video.
Fourth: Trump's SecState did not meet with the families of the victims and assure them that the maker of the youtube video would be jailed --- and then some dud who made a youtube video was not amazingly nabbed and thrown into jail for a year and even transferred to a jail in another state to keep him locked-up when the jails in his state were declared overcrowded and non-violent offenders were being released.
Fifth: We have no evidence that Trump's team ordered people to stand down and NOT go to the aid of the Americans who were fighting and dying during an HOURS long fight, and certainly no evidence that part of the delay was to order marines to change out of uniforms before going in to help (in an effort to not offend the locals).
Sixth: President Trump did not go on national TV and before the United Nations to blame it on a youtube video...just two months before his re-election vote.
I could go on and on with the differences but the fact that you tried to equate the two highlights either your total ignorance or your extreme political partisan hackery.
this will be another whitewash, that keeps the criminal at large known as Hillary Clinton out of jail. Watch out the Russians are coming! /sarc
Need to give cover to Trump
About time someone started investigating the investigation.
I read at +2. If your post doesn't reach that level I will not see or respond to it.
Go ahead and keep repeating that if it helps you sleep at night.
from, there were no emails, to, there was only yoga routines, to bleachbit the hard drive under subpoena, AFTER wikileaks did us a solid...
Too many people no this.
Trying to distract the world from his crimes and other bad behavior.
They're not going to get me, that's one thing for sure.
I'm an indÃf©pendant
What they hell did Slashdot do to my plain and simple word. It's not like I was trying some fancy European spelling of "independent" (though now I see I didn't spell it right, but that's no easy to throw an ASCII fit Slashdot)..
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Making such public would hurt T's election chances. Why would they want that? Looks more like they are inventing excuses to dig. After all, the email scandal came about while investigating Benghazi in general. Thus, digging in A may result in dirt on B.
Further, Putie's meddling was current, while the email issue was from the past. Typically you don't want to let the suspect know you are investigating a crime in progress (unless something imminent and significant is about to happen).
Table-ized A.I.
Seems we need an independent group to prioritize investigations based on level of suspicion and probable damage rather than politics. Otherwise, the party in power will just pour microscopes into the opposing party.
Table-ized A.I.
This is true though. They could have replaced Trump with a goat and they still would have won. I saw a dead squirrel on the road today that would get more votes than Hillary.
Well, actually, none of the email (as far as I know) were classified at the time of their insertion onto the server. Several were deemed classified after the fact, but that is not, as you say, how classification works. There was, per the news of the day, one instance of a paragraph headed with a (c) which would be worrisome, but the document was not properly marked otherwise and it is possible the marking was overlooked on a document that was not properly headed and controlled ( still worrisome though) . More damning is the use of a non-government controlled server, which as far as I know is novel. However, that is governed by State Dept. policy.
Eh.
Veh.
Dence.
No, accusations from the same professional liars that got you in Iraq is not evidence. And before one of the rubes starts up with the "go back to RT, Boris" crap, you guys said the same thing about skeptics being Saddam supporters if they questioned Bush's claims in 2003. You were tools then, and you're tools now.
Actually, some of the emails had highly sensitive info on them. Stuff like the actual names of citizens of other nations working for the US in in their country. That is life and death type of info and is classified far above Top Secret. If I remember correctly it is Eyes Only or something close to that. Ambassadors do not have that type of clearance, and neither do members of Congress who are members of the Intelligence oversight committees.
This is some very serious stuff.
"while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." de Tocqueville
I guess the GOP is doing the best to distract the general public ( with their feeble mindsets) from the ongoing probe of Russian influence/collusion in the 2106 election
A waste of taxpayer dollars, IMHO
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That's exactly how it works as this information is born classified. If Hillary was emailing the ambassador to South Korea about North Korea's nuclear arsenal, do you think that conversation had to be stamped "classified" before it would be considered as such?
"hurr durr he only tries to distract from his bad behavior by pointing out the near limitless crimes done under the obama admin be it the surveillance of the trump campaign that the democrat PR/media tried to laugh off, the uranium deal or the actual financiers of the fake piss dosiers, or how the fbi never was allowed to look at the dems server only a dems financed third party was, or the whole uranium deal, or collusion with russia and ukrain for which we actually have prove for change.
The trump administrations is just looking at all those criminal behaviors to distract! hhrrr durrr!"
Seriously you people.
The rest of you can piss off or join them for all I care.
Apart, from the times he's demonstrably lied. http://www.politifact.com/pers...
And the red states' answer was to elect an even more evil entity with absolutely no morals who would fill the white house with greedy cronies. That'll fix it!
The fact that, out of the 1000 posts here, yours is the only sensible one, shows you what we're up against. Intelligence is in short supply in America these days.
At the time he was running against other Republicans, and it wasn't clear if Clinton or Sanders would be the Democratic nominee. So your comment doesn't make much sense in context.
Which is not to say that if the Republicans had picked a saner candidate, he or she wouldn't have won. It's actually hard to think of someone who wouldn't have won both the electoral college and the popular vote against Clinton. That's what a 25 year smear campaign against Clinton combined with Clinton's horrible centrist politics brings you.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
to get my hopes up something comes of the 3,403 investigations of the Clinton crime family. I know her "justice" isn't in this world, but after she is dead. ETERNITY is a long time to burn in hell.
If only I could mod this even higher...
That's exactly how it works as this information is born classified. If Hillary was emailing the ambassador to South Korea about North Korea's nuclear arsenal, do you think that conversation had to be stamped "classified" before it would be considered as such?
That would depend on the content of the information she sent to the ambassador of South Korea. She could still be convicted of espionage, as the secretary of state, if she sent information to South Korea that she did not have the proper authorization to release. And you can bet that the information would have some sort of classification on it when it went out to indicate to the ambassador of South Korea how sensitive the US considered the information.
I wish I could believe that this is more than partisan witch hunting. Party A comes into power and immediately starts investigations of actions taken when Party B was in power.
Personally, I believe there is a lot of smoke around Clinton's handling of classified material. If any average citizen did the same things they would probably be in jail or at the least lose their clearance. But I also understand the further up the food-chain one goes the squishier the rules become.
At this point I'd like to see the Clintons fade into the background and for the government to move forward with an agenda of "positive" action, not revenge-seeking for past actions.
Hard to see this as anything other than a Republican hatchet job intended to distract from looming Russia indictments, and sundry horrors perpetrated upon long suffering decent citizens by this gang of self-serving kleptocrats.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
There is plenty of evidence since 2010 that the Clinton's did sell access to the SOS allowing a Russian Federation backed concern consolidation of uranium mines. It also shows that Holder and Obama sat on the evidence.
FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow
"Our justice system is represented by a blind-folded woman holding a set of scales. Those scales do not tip to the right or the left; they do not recognize wealth, power, or social status," Goodlatte and Gowdy said in a joint statement. "The impartiality of our justice system is the bedrock of our republic, and our fellow citizens must have confidence in its objectivity, independence, and evenhandedness. The law is the most equalizing force in this country. No entity or individual is exempt from oversight."
Utter HOGWASH!
I'm pretty sure Trump supporters know they're morons. They just don't care, and would rather watch everything they love burn.
The point was that with as bad as Clinton was, even if she shot someone... he is still more appealing than Clinton. But I think you knew what the point was, you just want to pretend you didn't so it fits your belief system a little better.
Russia can mine the uranium, but it has not, and can not, ever leave the United States.
Oh, there's a rule preventing them from doing so? Ok, good. We all know that they'd never break a rule....
It would have been better to vote for a harridan who believes it but is too smart to reveal it?
-Styopa
You are getting modded down for mentioning these things in the WRONG FUCKING PLACE.
There are LOTS of people who agree with what you say; however, do it in the right place or get modded down. This is not a story about Trump. Bringing him into this story just makes sure that rational people know that people who hate Trump are irrational. Which is why you are doing this anonymously. You are irrational and nobody will look at the "evidence" because nobody rational has provided them with evidence.
How does it feel to work against your own interests? Dumbass.
"Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
If the aim is to build a Nuclear weapon capable of destroying the United States, it doesn't have to leave American soil.
*puts finger to chin* Didn't think of that did you? Did ya? *nods smugly*
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
According to the truth, or to your childlike faith in corporate media? Benghazi was the start of a proxy war that showed the world how truly evil the U.S. federal government has become.
I base it on the fact that multiple investigations by Republicans who were willing to indict her of any crime failed to find one thing to charge her with in any wrong doing. Unless you are one of those people who believe in alternate facts.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
And Democrats lost to that.
Not only that, but he made states that usually vote blue, vote red.
The liberal response?
All aboard the Trump hate machine, choo choo - fueled by ad hominems, stereotyping, hysterics, media collaboration, etc.
Man... we need new parties.
Nobody older than 20 believed anybody but Hillary was going to be the nominee. Nobody, the fix was in from the start.
Even the older reds new. They might still have voted Sanders, but it was just a pose.
There is a reason 10% of Sanders voters, voted Trump.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
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If all my assets were liquidated, I would still have enough cash to buy a new car and head off to Mexico to find a chica to marry.
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You're aware that are some states in the U.S. that allow underage marriage as young as 14 years old?
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As for my comment, I've heard stories of engineers retiring at 50, moving to Mexico and marrying underage girls. Since I work with ex-military, the Philippines is a popular retirement spot for marrying underage girls as well. It's all about getting the most bang for your retirement dollars.
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That only works if you retire to Mexico, build a mansion (by local standards), marry an underage sweet thing and bequeath all your possessions to the village.
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How's the weather in Moscow today, PopeRatface?
No, sexconker actually said Trump was telling the truth about his supporters being morons: "At least Trump tells it like it is." Literacy isn't your strong point, is it?
This. She legally could not have broken the law since she made the law.
Stand on Fifth Ave and shoot someone, grab her by the hoohoo...
yada-yada...
another joyless liberal unable to understand the colloquialisms of humans. no wonder so many millenials embrace the adverb "literally" to describe things that figuratively happen. OMG, like literally this video game is real.
it is one thing to live your life as a text-based millenial, it is another to know the heart of a man and his verbal intent through inflection and phrasing. you are obviously incapable of real verbal communication.
btw, trump is the ANTI-pedophile in chief and is weekly flushing this country out of all the pedophiles. he reviles with a passion those who prey upon women and children. weinstein, weiner and all the sex-positive freaks.