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US Voting Server At Heart of Russian Hack Probe Mysteriously Wiped (theregister.co.uk)
A computer at the center of a lawsuit digging into Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election has been wiped. "The server in question is based in Georgia -- a state that narrowly backed Donald Trump, giving him 16 electoral votes -- and stored the results of the state's vote-management system," reports The Register. "The deletion of its filesystem data makes analysis of whether the system was compromised impossible to ascertain." From the report: There is good reason to believe that the computer may have been tampered with: it is 15 years old, and could be harboring all sorts of exploitable software and hardware vulnerabilities. No hard copies of the votes are kept, making the electronic copy the only official record. While investigating the Kennesaw State University's Center for Election Systems, which oversees Georgia's voting system, last year, security researcher Logan Lamb found its system was misconfigured, exposing the state's entire voter registration records, multiple PDFs with instructions and passwords for election workers, and the software systems used to tally votes cast. Despite Lamb letting the election center knows of his findings, the security holes were left unpatched for seven months. He later went public after the U.S. security services announced there had been a determined effort by the Russian government to sway the presidential elections, including looking at compromising electronic voting machines.
In an effort to force the state to scrap the system, a number of Georgia voters bandied together and sued. They asked for an independent security review of the server, expecting to find flaws that would lend weight to their argument for investment in a more modern and secure system. But emails released this week following a Freedom of Information Act request reveal that technicians at the election center deleted the server's data on July 7 -- just days after the lawsuit was filed. The memos reveal multiple references to the data wipe, including a message sent just last week from an assistant state attorney general to the plaintiffs in the case. That same email also notes that backups of the server data were also deleted more than a month after the initial wipe -- just as the lawsuit moved to a federal court. It is unclear who ordered the destruction of the data, and why, but they have raised yet more suspicions of collusion between the Trump campaign team, the Republican Party, and the Russian government.
In an effort to force the state to scrap the system, a number of Georgia voters bandied together and sued. They asked for an independent security review of the server, expecting to find flaws that would lend weight to their argument for investment in a more modern and secure system. But emails released this week following a Freedom of Information Act request reveal that technicians at the election center deleted the server's data on July 7 -- just days after the lawsuit was filed. The memos reveal multiple references to the data wipe, including a message sent just last week from an assistant state attorney general to the plaintiffs in the case. That same email also notes that backups of the server data were also deleted more than a month after the initial wipe -- just as the lawsuit moved to a federal court. It is unclear who ordered the destruction of the data, and why, but they have raised yet more suspicions of collusion between the Trump campaign team, the Republican Party, and the Russian government.
Bet you'll find plenty of insecure voting machines around. There is absolutely no reason to have those things connected to the Internet.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
There's a whole lot of shenanigans.
Maybe he already is at the bottom of this.
We know the Trump administration has nothing to hide because of their straightforward and transparent statements and actions. We know the GOP would never impeach an insane golden goose that MIGHT lay them a Trillion dollar egg. What we don't know is what Putin gets out of the deal, or whether Paul Ryan will be appointed President and continue this spineless corrupt quid pro quo pandering horseshit after Mueller's investigation destroys both Trump and Pence in a 48 hour period.
Black box voting machines make it easy for election officials to throw the results however they pleased. Let's skip the Russian conspiracy theories when good ol' domestic corruption is more than enough to explain suspiciously wiped servers.
Anyone want to take bets on how important this will be looking back in a few years? If Mueller's team didn't know about this before you can be damned sure they will now. It's a sure bet this will put them on the scent of any other states with similar situations.
Voting Machines: https://xkcd.com/463/
On the one hand you take life too seriously, and on the other, you do not take playful existence seriously enough. Seth
That you're all crazy.
Of course, it's "unclear". If it was ordered by a Republican, it would be the first thing mentioned. The whole Russian collusion story is falling apart, so Dems are burning the evidence to create doubt. Democratic Party is a criminal organization.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Move along. Ignore the man behind the curtain. Electronic voting systems are perfectly safe. There's no need to keep any paper records because the machines never make mistakes and are secure from intrusion.
There's never been a case where voting machines have been compromised. How do we know? Because we say so.
He beat Clinton by 6 points. Just ridiculous conspiracy theory mongering. Funny how nobody wanted to look at the results until after they found out the data was wiped.
It's time to get over it.
with a cloth?
Table-ized A.I.
than deleting backups.
Just sayin.
The stakes in national elections, especially in a powerful country like the United States, are simply too high. The cost of securing the system against the tremendous value to potential state backed attackers of manipulating the result is simply too high to be cost effective, if it can even be done at all. The votes should be made on paper with mechanical punches, both to increase the cost of attacks and reduce their scope by making large scale manipulation impossible or impractical. Ideally the voting would be done on the sort of heavy card stock punched cards that could be counted quickly and reliably by an analog card sorting machine, a technology that is now over 100 years old and with a long proven track record dating back to the early 20th century, including much government work.
Yet no one thought to make a forensic copy of the drive?
By "wiped" do you mean with Windex? Was Hillary anywhere around?
Like with a cloth? For dust?
Diebold's CEO promised to deliver Ohio to Bush, and in contradiction to the exit polls, the Diebold machines made good on the promise. Not proof (polls are tricky), but there was a "magic" card that could set the machine to deliver and specified result. Might have been a test card to check the the central server correctly tallied the remote machines, but production code should never have had it.
Why should we trust those results?
We now know that it was the DNC and the Clinton campaign that colluded with Russia through Manafort working for the Podesta Group and paying Steele for the fake dossier.
Don't try to deflect. It's over. Trump won. Clinton colluded, cheated and still loss, proving how much of a failure of a candidate she was.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
Your votes don't matter, the law doesn't matter, and someone who thinks he's emperor was elected.
Wow, that is pretty damning. Really doesn't bode well for Trump and the Russia collusion investigation.
Used around the world, too complicated for the USA.
Enjoy your Republic friendos.
You are absolutely right. Since Jeb is a Democrat. Also whenever somebody I don't like pays for research it always has falsified results. I know they are falsified because they do not agree with my perception of reality. Trump 2028! He definitely did not pay Russian pee hookers or rape little girls on a private island!
It says Georgia, which is a very âoesouthernâ and thus Republican state only got a very narrow victory on Trump. It seems to me that the only evidence that was erased was a failed attempt at making the state turn blue.
The only time they voted in favor of a Democrat in the last few decades was with another very, very narrow victory for another Clinton.
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See subject: I'd wager, based on their disproven "russian narrative" vs. Trump (which Shillary & Podesta are going down for too with other things like Uranium One, Benghazi & illegal info. Hillary CANNOT CLAIM IGNORANCE OF - No DoD securing of those servers, they were never registered w/ gov't. & had classified info on them - SHE WAS A FORMER ATTORNEY + SECRETARY OF STATE - she KNOWS those are HUGE "no nos" to do)) ?
Democrats KNEW they had nothing, so being the lying snakes they are, they're now "trying for 'He had the Server Wiped. We CAN prove it!'" (yea, lol - riiiiiggghhhtt).
* I've lived over 1/2 a century & NEVER in my life have I seen such utter STUPIDITY over a Presidential Election in the USA!
(They're awful 'desperate' these globalists - I find that 'channeling your inner criminal' helps you forecast their nefarious activities, lol... as I just have!)
I JUST LIKE HOW THEY KEEP GETTING BUSTED LYING THOUGH, lol!
APK
P.S.=> Former Democrat here (but I am a "Trump Man" this round) too - For instance: I did not like Bush (both) or Obama, but I wasn't doing stupid shit against them - why? They were OUR Presidents - support them, like it or not... so what is wrong w/ these Antifa (paid by soros, them I understand - not respect though) & Democrats? apk
That doesn't raise any suspicions of collusion with Russia. This is just ordinary election corruption that happens everywhere for every election, by both parties. Stupid attempt to bring in fake news to a real thing.
So no actual rebuttal, just name calling?
> the Clinton campaign bankrolled the fake "Russian dossier"
Wrong. They only continued funding for it. They didn't bankroll it. Also, Hillary didn't know that Podesta had hired the Russians to try to influence our election, so this is not on her.
The Russia investigation is shifting to the Democratic Party collusion. The butt covering has begun. Hopefully it takes the Clintons and other liberals down. They have scammed their way into the US government and need to be removed from power for good.
51% to 46% - I think that's pretty decisive... Of course, with it coming out that the Democrats and the Clinton campaign bankrolled the fake "Russian dossier", they have to start tossing about for something else to blame her loss on - other than her ineptitude and failure as a candidate people wanted.
It does not bother me that people in the general population think getting 51% of the vote is a decisive victory.
It does bother me that there are people on Slashdot saying this.
Was it the Democrats?! I need to know so I can get mad and post a ton of memes about those Democrats. Oh screw it I'm saying it was either way.
The state was being sued for having a shit electronic voting system with no verifiability, and now the primary evidence was mysteriously erased! Must be the Ruskies (who haven't been shown to have done jack or shit last year), not someone looking to cover for corrupt election officials in the state.
The non-clickbaity side of the story (a statement from Center for Elections Systems at Kennesaw State University, who had possession of the server) is here:
"In March 2017, a Center for Election Systems’ server involved in an alleged data breach was turned over to the FBI. While the server was in the possession of the Bureau, a forensic image or copy of all the data on the server was made and held by the agency. Following the notification from the FBI that no data was compromised and the investigation was closed, the server was returned to the University’s Information Technology Services group and securely stored. In accordance with standard operating procedures, an after-action report was prepared. This report outlined hardware improvements for the Center, including repurposing the impacted server and surplusing servers that had exceeded end of life. As part of the report, the original server that had been investigated by the FBI was designated to be repurposed, and the drives on the server were erased and the server made available for alternative uses."
"As noted by the subpoena filed today by the Attorney General’s Office, the data and information that was on the server in question has been and is still in the possession of the FBI and will remain available to the parties in the event it is determined to be relevant in the pending litigation."
So (a) the feds already investigated and found no evidence the server was compromised, and (b) they still have their forensic image of the server. This seems a lot more like litigants and journalists huffing and puffing than it does a real issue.
just like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner
Her hard drive got wiped just as the justice system got interested in her actions.
Hillary did the same thing.
I am sure countless others on both sides of the aisle have wiped data from computers to hide something. I can't wait until people start realizing they have no say in how our government works.
Hillary and the DNC paying Fusion GPS (and the Russians) for FAKE intel....
Get ready to ignore the bank records....
5 out of 6 people enjoy Russian Roulette & 6 out of 7 Dwarfs are not Happy
...in this case is a margin of 231,000 votes. i.e. not all that narrow.
I think he just did a Crazy Ivan on you.
His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
Thank you for Correcting The Record (TM). 25 cents have been deposited into your account.
I stopped reading at the second word. If you're using dailymail online for citation, you've already left contact with planet reality.
Full marks sir!
That's the sad state of our times. The fucking cunts that have been blaming Trump for their crimes are the guilty ones. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Hillary that peed on the bed of hookers and then said that popular RAPER word in the bathroom.
I didn't click on the link, but if this was the DNC server that NO ONE IN OUR GOVERNMENT HAS LOOKED AT? If so, then how fucking convenient it gets wiped when this bullshit Russian narrative is crashing down, since its entire foundation is based on deflective-lies and diarrhea, which has been spread by bought-and-paid-for-media-outlets, and the very crooks that sold part of our Uranium to the Russians.
FUCK OFF DEMOCRATS! FUCK OFF DNC! AND FUCK THE MEDIA for praying on the week minded Americans who were gullible enough to buy into this Russian bullshit.
...election" LOL.
It's beginning to sound just like "weapons of mass destruction". Repeat it endlessly and nobody ever asks WHAT exactly the 'Russians' did...
Somebody in Russia (not 'Russia') exposed Hilary Clinton's e-mails and her crimes.... that's called "interference" by the controlled media that wanted Clinton to win the election...
So let's not consider a 15 year old server to be part of the problem here, let's blame Russia. Sadly, only this stuff is exposed after some feel jilted at the voting booth because their person did not win. Would be interesting to know how many people would be exposing this if Clinton had won? Or is it more about the ends justifying the means?
But they SURE do get butthurt by name calling. Dish it out like demon possessed girls but whine lick beta cucks when even a sliver comes back to them.
Like with a cloth?
I am a volunteer poll worker in Virginia. NO vote-tallying equipment is connected to the Internet, anywhere in the U.S. We are not idiots. We have about 230+ years' worth of experience with people trying to throw an election, and we understand -- and mitigate -- the risks.
This server in Georgia did NOT hold vote counts. It held voter registration records, instructions, and voting equipment passwords.
Each precinct tallying the votes keeps an independent record of their machines. There are paper backups of voting totals in the form of printed counts and hand-copied summary sheets.
In my state, we have switched over to machine-counted paper ballots in all precincts. Those scanners do not even have wireless hardware in them, they can only be accessed via ethernet cable. Once a machine is tested and certified for voting, a cover is placed over the ethernet socket and it is sealed with a plastic band.
I do advocate the use of paper ballots, but not because then humans could do a hand-count of them. Humans are lousy at repetitive tasks. A hand-count of millions of votes would have a margin of error 10x the size of the margin of error of machine-counted votes. In Virginia, when there is a recount, we bring in a completely different set of scanners than were used to originally count the votes, and run the same paper ballots through them. That is a excellent independent count.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
Throw all these electronic voting machines in the trash! Use paper ballots and a pen, stuff those in sealed envelopes, have voters drop those into sealed and transparent ballot boxes, seal the slot when voting is over, then bring all ballot boxes to the counting place and have the count be open to the public. Once counted compare votes cast with the number of people signing in at polling stations. Both numbers have to match. Keep the sign in lists and the ballots at least until the next election and put a single person in charge of safeguarding them.
It will not solve all problems, but it will solve many. It will cost more, but in exchange there can be as many recounts as needed, there is a paper trail, and stuffing the ballot boxes will not be as easy given that anyone can check on progress. With the sign in sheets retained it will even be possible to ask people if they voted or not. Low tech is in this case better than high tech. Sure, will take longer to get results, but I rather wait a day to get a reliable result than get a wrong or tampered result fast.
And while we are at it, get rid of the electoral college for presidential elections. It takes significant less votes to get a seat from Montana compared to one from Michigan. It will also remove the case where the candidate who received more votes loses the election. What kind of whacked up idea of democracy is that?
Hopefully they used BleachBit. I hear it's the best for anyone trying to cover up shady digital happenings. Act now for a 25% government discount.
On the contrary, Boris. Every day in every way, we find more Russian mischief in the US election process. This may be yet another one.
Wiped, like with a cloth?
Conclude that it was compromised and proceed from that standpoint.
We are not idiots
As someone who works with computer security, I beg to differ: There are no known way of doing electronic voting with security level above "idiots", compared to paper-based voting.
A computer at the center of a lawsuit digging into Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election has been wiped.
"What, like with a cloth or something??" - That never gets old...
Ken
That is a decent way of doing it. Some places don't have a paper trail though.
The issue is if they were trying to cover up being hacked by the Russians (although I'm not sure what damage they would have caused), or vote totals being shifted by having people who didn't show up cast ghost ballots for their candidate of choice.
...it was Democrats who INSISTED that electronic voting was the key to the future, since their voters were too stupid to operate a paper ballot in the Florida 2000 presidential election.
-Styopa
They already knew how to deal with Clinton and had years of experience with her. Am I to believe they went to all this effort because they preferred the unknown and untested Trump instead? BS.
First, paper ballots, duh.
Second, sounds like more that just Russians.
If there are E-mails talking about wiping servers and backups, after a judicial proceeding started, that seems like destruction of evidence.
If the backups were offline, it seems worth looking to find a trail leading to folks in the US.
If the backups were online, it seems worth finding the folks in charge and showing them the door.
Either way, it shows why old fashioned voting systems are still necessary.
At least with them you have to stuff the box locally by hand.
Manipulating voter registration records can also affect the outcome of an election, particularly in a situation where you are performing mass voter roll purges -- which I believe Georgia did. Tweaking the purge in the partisan way is one of the things that could be hidden by this.
Many voters who are denied a ballot may not choose to cast a provisional ballot, or come out to vote next time. Although this may seem like they get what they deserve if they're not sufficiently dedicated, voting can be more of a sacrifice for some people, particularly those with limited time to vote and where the polling stations are located inconveniently. If you're risking late for work you might choose just to leave. There have been documented attempts to manipulate turnout by inconveniently locating polling places.
As far as paper ballots, the obvious choice is optically scanned paper ballots. That said, I have never seen any evidence that human recounters don't perform acceptably. They are not perfect, but neither are machines -- for that matter how could you possibly know if a machine is perfect? In any case human limitations can be dealt with using statistics, to any desirable level of confidence.
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The server in question was just a web server and not the actual server that tabulates the votes. Nothing to see, move along.
B-but...we all know Drumpf stole the election with help from THE RUSSIANS!!!! #IMWITHHER
could be hidden by this
As another poster below linked. If it was hidden, the FBI missed it.
"While the server was in the possession of the Bureau, a forensic image or copy of all the data on the server was made and held by the agency. Following the notification from the FBI that no data was compromised and the investigation was closed"
The gift that keeps on giving.
So two groups of people did illegal things. That doesn't diminish this case one bit.
Agreed. If they are convicted of committing a crime lock them both up.
From what I remember Bush got his winning votes from Florida\Georgia as well...Must be pure coincidence
I would call it one group. They are the people who, if they delete emails and computer records, are not held accountable.
Then there is the rest of us.
When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
Hillary Clinton's guilty. Mishandling classified info. As a former attorney she knows ignorance = no excuse in the law's eyes.
As a former secretary of state she definitely KNOWS that an unapportioned & non DoD secured PRIVATE email server @ HER HOME (another no no generally unless approved by DoD etc.) WITH CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TOP SECRET OR MORE ON IT, is wrong.
Her INTENT was to HIDE she was doing it. Comey INTENTIONALLY dropped the ball trying "intent" alone. The above would park her in jail.
She has no excuse and ignorance (no excuse in the eyes of the law) is impossible due to her legal role as a lawyer and secretary of state.
* She has NO outs.
Uranium One shows her "colluding with Russia" to sell them 20% of the USA's uranium & Podesta had like 75,000 shares in a russian company (and they say "Trump colludes with Russia" which even Van Jones of CNN said was a HUGE "nothing burger" & so did John Bonnifield one of CNN's producers!). Just like the ADMITTEDLY FALSE "Pee Pee Gate" democrats tried to libel/slander Pres. Trump with (another lie the MSM is caught in along w/ Anderson Cooper saying "Soros never betrayed his own Jew people to nazis" but the 1998 interview SHOWS HIM SAYING HE DID WORK FOR NAZIS vs. JEWS admittedly!).
Benghazi she told troops to 'stand down' on as they called for help getting those boys killed.
APK
P.S.=> Prove it? I just did from a LEGAL standpoint & it is how I would put her away in seconds... apk
I do believe that there was voter fraud.
I live in the Metro Atlanta Georgia area. If Trump narrowly won, then it had to be voter fraud, because everyone that I know and that is a lot of people, voted Trump. Even my own mother voted Trump.
It should have been a land slide for Trump in Georgia. The only way it could be a narrow win is voter fraud.
Then it's a serious case of negligence? No paper records? Sorry folks. Electronic voting machines are too easy to tamper with for them to be a reliable source of votes.
Uni Liberal Democrats knew wiping the system would cause issues for the republicans currently in power.
Though the district that KSU is in is extremely republican.
I live 5 miles from this university.
Still talking about the Clintons. Sad and pathetic really.
Why don't you give us the whole Trump argie-bargie speech about "how wonderful" his win was, and "no one expected him to win", and "mainstream media". Please, do keep living in the past. You prove your irrelevance and unhealthy obsessions by doing so.
Sad.
Unlikely. Wishful thinking. Moving the goalposts. Attempting to change the channel, with no likelihood of succeeding.
Also, "They have scammed their way into the US government..." is hilarious! Good one! The Clintons were qualified to run and competent, unlike the Big Giant Orange Head.
You are projecting the reality of the Big Giant Orange Head onto your obsession, the Clintons. Maybe you should consider getting a life instead?
probably not.
230 years of cumulative experience is ....laughable , i work for a small business , we're 8 in the IT department and i'm pretty much sure we're hitting the 200+ years , just by myself i've been in IT for 27 years , and i'm not even the the senior here
Servers did not wipe themselves. Someone has something to hide. Something stinks. Sounds like a case for the health department!
What's significant is that this happened in the wake of a very close Special Election that would have put a Democrat, John Ossoff, in the mix for Georgia. The Russian thing? Whatever. It gets spun this way so it's seen as conspiracy theory, working up Dems while Repubs just call it hooey (classic media, polarizing the issue) instead of the deeply troubling issue that anyone could get behind: Another significant Georgia election has likely been rigged (it has a history of election tampering; Jimmy Carter got in office due to findings omassive election fraud on the Republican side).
It was pretty strange that it looked like Ossoff could win, but suddenly didn't.
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As opposed to actual fucking on the record evidence Hillary colluded directly with the Russians by selling them fucking Uranium.
Get your fucking heads out of your asses tools: Hillary is the Russian spy here.
If Wisconsin is going to vote for a Republican, Georgia going GOP should be a foregone conclusion.
A year later and you're still trying to wedge Clinton into the conversation? THAT is old news. THIS is new news. Her mistakes cost her the election (and renders her largely non-relevant) whereas this could have actually indicated (one way or another) if Trump literally stole the election. And you don't find that curious at all? You want to keep harping on Hillary's crap, but THIS is what is relevant RIGHT NOW.
Dumb shits like you are what keep real conversations from happening in real time.
I agree, we should use statistics to deal with uncertainty in elections. Unfortunately that is not what the law currently specifies; if in an election of 1.6 million ballots one candidate gets 1 more vote than another, we declare them the winner. Given that errors exist we know with high confidence that it's about equally likely that the other candidate actually had more votes than the "winner", but we simply do not have a mechanism in place to deal with the statistically uncertain outcome, or in most jurisdictions, to re-run the election in such a way that would produce more reliable results.
In terms of evidence that people are bad at counting consistently, there's a ton of it (and the rate is non-trivial in close elections -- around 2%). And documentation of the evidence used to establish the much lower error rates of machines doing the same thing. Google has pages and pages of academic papers on the types and frequency of errors with various ballot and counting methods, so let's not pretend that we have to guess at the answer to these questions: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=error+rate+ballot
We are not idiots
As someone who works with computer security, I beg to differ: There are no known way of doing electronic voting with security level above "idiots", compared to paper-based voting.
As somebody who lives in a State with human-readable paper ballots that are normally counted by computer, I totally agree. Having the paper ballot and lots of humans from both parties watching all the steps of counting is what makes the computer a trustworthy tool.
YOU are an idiot. Reread this sentence: "In my state, we have switched over to machine-counted paper ballots in all precincts". Where does he indicate the state is using electronic voting?
It was already refuted in a couple page long article online. The region Trump was from was actually some other spelling, not that.
Oliver isn't always accurate, and doesn't always print retractions. And even if it was accurate, it's just as unclassy as all the names people called Bush and Obama the previous 16 years.
He needed to cover up for his dad, Rafael, who conspired with the Soviets and Republicans to assassinate Kennedy.
(I may not be entirely sure of my sources, but I read it on the Internet so it must be true.)
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It's really lack of information in news articles that make conversation impossible.
BBC article few days back about how NAACP warned American Airlines might be dangerous for Africans to fly - cited 4 incidents - none of the incidents had any facts - what was said, what was done. Only one had an account FROM a NAACP ?representative? ( dubious source)
BBC and all - don't put outrageous headlines on your site with zero facts or evidence. Be journalists at some point for fucks sake.
And I won't even bother to mention all the emails deleted from Sec. Clinton's home-brewed email system...
Except obviously you just did. Typical Trumpaloompa distraction attempt: "But Hillary's emails!"
To be honest, American Airlines is a risk for any passenger.
This server...held voter registration records, instructions, and voting equipment passwords.
So the server with the passwords to the voting equipment was connected to the Internet?
Those scanners...can only be accessed via ethernet cable. Once a machine is tested and certified for voting, a cover is placed over the ethernet socket and it is sealed with a plastic band.
Um, what does the other end of the Ethernet cable connect to?
NO vote-tallying equipment is connected to the Internet, anywhere in the U.S. We are not idiots.
You may be interested in a documentary called Hacking Democracy. The voting officials are even caught throwing away paper records.
You mean, like with a cloth?
The election's over. She's done. You can let her go now. Obviously, whatever her suspiciously bad timing was about, it was not sufficient enough to get her elected.
Hopefully we'll figure out how to remedy these voting/electoral "difficulties" while we've got two (of four) boxes of liberty left. Because I'd rather things work out peacefully.
I do advocate the use of paper ballots, but not because then humans could do a hand-count of them. Humans are lousy at repetitive tasks. A hand-count of millions of votes would have a margin of error 10x the size of the margin of error of machine-counted votes. In Virginia, when there is a recount, we bring in a completely different set of scanners than were used to originally count the votes, and run the same paper ballots through them. That is a excellent independent count.
Paper ballots do not have to be counted by hand. I have voted by paper ballot in California in all except two elections in the past 42 years and they were never counted by humans EXCEPT on the rare cases of recounts. Since electronic voting system were banned several years ago, I have voted on ballots counted optically, again allowing manual examination and counting when needed.
N.B. Voting is largely controlled by county and not all counties use the same voting systems.
Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
How can you know software is working?
By black box, double-blind testing, of course.
This isn't that hard. The key to both security and testing is independent, parallel validation. That's why I like the idea of taking paper ballots from one election and running them through an entirely different set of scanners for a recount.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
Let the assassin's bullet be made of ice - so that ballistics cannot be used to catch the assassin who kills Trump and Putin.
I am sure you stated the same after the decisive 52% that President Obama won in 2008?
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
When was the last Presidential election in Georgia that the Democrats won? Trump's margin in Georgia was about the same as the last 6 presidential elections, so why would we expect a big change (which it would be, if it switched parties)?
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Mmm, a tu quoque argument, how convincing.
Could history be repeating itself? Pretty soon Trump might be eating some of his own flakes soon when he that nice orange outfit to go with his orange skin.
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Oh what trite bullshit you are. You post garbage to support a complete nonsense claim and when called on it, "oh but I'm still right, I've got plenty of evidence over here where you cant see it"
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