"In the U.S., if you're sick and you can get to a hospital, you will be cared for. And you can probably hitch a ride to the hospital, with the police if no one else. "
And sign away their lives while there're at it. You obviously don't know but medical care is prohibitively expensive for people who are living paycheck to paycheck nevermind the ones already in the hole. Thanks to our current plutocracy and the viewpoint of money is life(capitalism) here in the US, no one is going to wreck their financial future to save their life as with no financial future you might as well be dead. So requiring hospitals to help you isn't going mean much if no one is going to come in to become a financial slave for the rest of their life. (redundant but clearer)
At least other first world countries took away the financial disincentive to get care.
If wages had kept up with output and if people who did the work actually got paid the true value of that work as opposed to the middle men and upper classes getting it, the capitalistic system might have a chance to work somewhat better but right now at the national level its largely been a failure.(but a great scam)
PS. You want citations, you're on the net, look for them yourself as there's plenty around assuming you're willing to see them.
"Atheists have kill MILLIONS in the name of Atheism (USSR, China etc)."
No, not in the name of Atheism. If you understood Atheists your statement doesn't make sense.(I don't do links, you're on the net, look it up yourself) Some leaders may have been atheists(buddhist or other local religion more likely) but thats not why they kill. Those leaders killed those who disagreed(threat) and/or linked to those who disagreed. Those massacres were often in the thousands(earlier centuries) to millions(last century) following the view of completely destroying dissent. Check the history of those peoples(china, russia, japan, etc.) as it was a fairly common occurrence. Some leaders and their minions were just plain butchers as well killing just because they could.
Religion, money, and power are the main excuses to do what we want to do. (sarcasm)After all, as leader regardless of everything to the contrary, I'm right.(sarcasm)
Individual atheists do see discrimination by many others even in the land of the free and home of the brave.(social, physical, verbal)
"GM fucked itself over because they signed UAW contracts."
GM made plenty of mistakes over the last several decades. Like the Wisconsin labor fight last year, the labor contracts were just an excuse, but not the cause of financial problems.
"They should have fired the entire represented workforce and hired off the streets a decade ago."
Right, in the condition GM was in it definitely could afford the cost of firing it's entire workforce and drop it's pensioners(it would've found a way) nevermind the cost of hiring and training new workers and loss of profitability for years that it would have caused. Do you actually think after firing a good chunk of the Detroit and trashing peoples benefits that GM would still exist the next day? They better have plenty of troops because they'll need'em when the riots start. I still remember the last labor fight they had, it wasn't pretty but was better than the end result of what you wanted would be.
"GM fucked itself over because they signed UAW contracts."
GM made plenty of mistakes over the last several decades. Like the Wisconsin labor fight last year, the labor contracts were just an excuse, but not the cause of financial problems.
"They should have fired the entire represented workforce and hired off the streets a decade ago."
Right, in the condition GM was in it definitely could afford the cost of firing it's entire workforce and drop it's pensioners(it would've found a way) nevermind the cost of hiring and training new workers and loss of profitability for years that it would have caused. Do you actually think after firing a good chunk of the Detroit and trashing peoples benefits that GM would still exist the next day? They better have plenty of troops because they'll need'em when the riots start. I still remember the last labor fight they had, it wasn't pretty but was better than the end result of what you wanted would be.
And the current system is working so well. And the need for reform is BS, right. Tell that to the quarter of our population that has less health protection than needed and eighth of our population who has no health support at all.
" Only so long as you let government keep competition out of the market (e.g. by requiring vastly complex drug tests and keeping the supply of doctors artificially low)."
The AMA is keeping the doctors numbers low and is not the government. And the government isn't keeping competition out of the market, big corporations are.
Smart phones, tablets, and mp3 players created by dozens of makers were around long before Apple/Jobs entered the market. The adoption of those devices was slow but still positive. Jobs influence coupled with fanboy extremism just accelerated the adoption of those devices increasing their social acceptability by 10's of degrees per year instead of the earlier couple of degrees a year. Adoption was still coming just more slowly. So please stop overselling Steve Jobs influence. He was just a good salesman/con artist with an eye for shiny considering the same toy from some other manufacturer often cost half as much. The guy was an average human(that's being nice, fact is, he was often an arrogant bastard) not an angel.
Apple Fanboys -- Users of Apple made equipment aimed at the upper income set, those with lots disposable cash who often set trends in various parts of our culture. Those trends helped Apple in its dominance of that market segment as well as affect other related areas in an expanding web of influence.
"James Carville, who was Clinton's right hand man just wrote advice to Obama, on how to look more compentent. His advise was to do lots of firings to appear in charge and for them to be scapegoats."
I'd rather our president actually be competent. He should be firing those that deserve it. Political games don't get work done, just theater for the idiots. The US seems to have lots of idiots these days.
"...filled schools, and an even greater dependency class than we already have in society - because of course, the fact that you have achieved less or worked less doesn't mean you should receive less, the government should rob from the rich to help you."
And how many top billionaires do we have that never finished college or even high school? And how did they get rich? On the backs of others using knowledge provided by others often seeing openings others missed. They didn't do it all by themselves you know.
Income versus debt most of us have bigger debts in our houses and cars(nevermind college). This is just a bunch of noise to stick Obama with something and hide other shenanigans. Otherwise why complain about the debt now when it's been astronomical since Reagan and few said much of a word the whole time especially republicans.
"if we're going to break the graphics stack (which moving to Wayland will do anyway), wouldn't it be better to release a new and refined X12 based around the server-client design and be done with it?"
Finally someone asked, how about an answer as I don't see a reason for X12 not coming into existence either.
And since X will no longer be maintained so much for that. Need examples of lack of maintenance: User level display drivers, xfree86, etc. Everyone of value will jump and X will die a slow death of bitrot.
"You are not a customer of your school, you are its product"
So the product rates less than the workers. Now I know why the product sucks. That also makes the parents and the public the customers so you better listen to them and find a way to do your job putting out the best product you can before you end up unemployed "teach".
Attitude is part of the problem and it just isn't the students that have it.
"Mavrik and Peter jump on my back when I kneel to give them food...."
Wait till they get bigger. It will get old quick when they start creating welts in your back. I know from experience as I have lots of cats that do the same thing.
Bruce,
You do realize what board you're speaking on right? For many slashdotters "hairy retarded love slaves" is about all they can hope for. (comment sexually agnostic for current generation but older generations it's mostly(I think) women love slaves)
Slashdot Mirror
"The largest and most powerful unions existed before 1935, when the government started getting intimately involved. "
There were also several massacres at corporate request during those times too.
"In the U.S., if you're sick and you can get to a hospital, you will be cared for. And you can probably hitch a ride to the hospital, with the police if no one else. "
And sign away their lives while there're at it. You obviously don't know but medical care is prohibitively expensive for people who are living paycheck to paycheck nevermind the ones already in the hole. Thanks to our current plutocracy and the viewpoint of money is life(capitalism) here in the US, no one is going to wreck their financial future to save their life as with no financial future you might as well be dead. So requiring hospitals to help you isn't going mean much if no one is going to come in to become a financial slave for the rest of their life. (redundant but clearer)
At least other first world countries took away the financial disincentive to get care.
If wages had kept up with output and if people who did the work actually got paid the true value of that work as opposed to the middle men and upper classes getting it, the capitalistic system might have a chance to work somewhat better but right now at the national level its largely been a failure.(but a great scam)
PS. You want citations, you're on the net, look for them yourself as there's plenty around assuming you're willing to see them.
Google was already exposed last year by Chinese hackers.
"Not without facing enforced disarmament "
Done dreaming yet. Real power is firepower. The US has it, the world doesn't.
"decades of sanctions from the rest of the developed world."
Which has large dependencies on the US. We go down you do too. So you better figure out which side you're on.
"Atheists have kill MILLIONS in the name of Atheism (USSR, China etc)."
No, not in the name of Atheism. If you understood Atheists your statement doesn't make sense.(I don't do links, you're on the net, look it up yourself) Some leaders may have been atheists(buddhist or other local religion more likely) but thats not why they kill. Those leaders killed those who disagreed(threat) and/or linked to those who disagreed. Those massacres were often in the thousands(earlier centuries) to millions(last century) following the view of completely destroying dissent. Check the history of those peoples(china, russia, japan, etc.) as it was a fairly common occurrence. Some leaders and their minions were just plain butchers as well killing just because they could.
Religion, money, and power are the main excuses to do what we want to do. (sarcasm)After all, as leader regardless of everything to the contrary, I'm right.(sarcasm)
Individual atheists do see discrimination by many others even in the land of the free and home of the brave.(social, physical, verbal)
" I think GE and Microsoft."
Great people who build bombs(nuclear) and people who build virtual bombs(windows) working together to build a better America. -- pseudo carlin
"GM fucked itself over because they signed UAW
contracts."
GM made plenty of mistakes over the last several decades. Like the Wisconsin labor fight last year, the labor contracts were just an excuse, but not the cause of financial problems.
"They should have fired the entire represented workforce and hired off the streets a decade ago."
Right, in the condition GM was in it definitely could afford the cost of firing it's entire workforce and drop it's pensioners(it would've found a way) nevermind the cost of hiring and training new workers and loss of profitability for years that it would have caused. Do you actually think after firing a good chunk of the Detroit and trashing peoples benefits that GM would still exist the next day? They better have plenty of troops because they'll need'em when the riots start. I still remember the last labor fight they had, it wasn't pretty but was better than the end result of what you wanted would be.
It's should be its.
"GM fucked itself over because they signed UAW
contracts."
GM made plenty of mistakes over the last several decades. Like the Wisconsin labor fight last year, the labor contracts were just an excuse, but not the cause of financial problems.
"They should have fired the entire represented workforce and hired off the streets a decade ago."
Right, in the condition GM was in it definitely could afford the cost of firing it's entire workforce and drop it's pensioners(it would've found a way) nevermind the cost of hiring and training new workers and loss of profitability for years that it would have caused. Do you actually think after firing a good chunk of the Detroit and trashing peoples benefits that GM would still exist the next day? They better have plenty of troops because they'll need'em when the riots start. I still remember the last labor fight they had, it wasn't pretty but was better than the end result of what you wanted would be.
"So long as you let government control it, yes."
And the current system is working so well. And the need for reform is BS, right. Tell that to the quarter of our population that has less health protection than needed and eighth of our population who has no health support at all.
" Only so long as you let government keep competition out of the market (e.g. by requiring vastly complex drug tests and keeping the supply of doctors artificially low)."
The AMA is keeping the doctors numbers low and is not the government. And the government isn't keeping competition out of the market, big corporations are.
"And lose the ease of deployment that web based apps have and the multiplatform goodness of Native Client? No thanks."
What, get off you lazy ass and do real work for real pay. Who would have of thought?
Smart phones, tablets, and mp3 players created by dozens of makers were around long before Apple/Jobs entered the market. The adoption of those devices was slow but still positive. Jobs influence coupled with fanboy extremism just accelerated the adoption of those devices increasing their social acceptability by 10's of degrees per year instead of the earlier couple of degrees a year. Adoption was still coming just more slowly. So please stop overselling Steve Jobs influence. He was just a good salesman/con artist with an eye for shiny considering the same toy from some other manufacturer often cost half as much. The guy was an average human(that's being nice, fact is, he was often an arrogant bastard) not an angel.
Apple Fanboys -- Users of Apple made equipment aimed at the upper income set, those with lots disposable cash who often set trends in various parts of our culture. Those trends helped Apple in its dominance of that market segment as well as affect other related areas in an expanding web of influence.
"I haven't this happy with my desktop since I ran a very customized AfterStep about 10 years ago."
Get a rope. Don't forget the gall and spikes and do this crucifixion up right. /humor
PS. Robes and torches optional.
"James Carville, who was Clinton's right hand man just wrote advice to Obama, on how to look more compentent. His advise was to do lots of firings to appear in charge and for them to be scapegoats."
I'd rather our president actually be competent. He should be firing those that deserve it. Political games don't get work done, just theater for the idiots. The US seems to have lots of idiots these days.
"...filled schools, and an even greater dependency class than we already have in society - because of course, the fact that you have achieved less or worked less doesn't mean you should receive less, the government should rob from the rich to help you."
And how many top billionaires do we have that never finished college or even high school? And how did they get rich? On the backs of others using knowledge provided by others often seeing openings others missed. They didn't do it all by themselves you know.
"...It's only down 200 from opening yesterday."
It's only down 700 points from opening Thursday.
Fixed that for you.
Income versus debt most of us have bigger debts in our houses and cars(nevermind college). This is just a bunch of noise to stick Obama with something and hide other shenanigans. Otherwise why complain about the debt now when it's been astronomical since Reagan and few said much of a word the whole time especially republicans.
"if we're going to break the graphics stack (which moving to Wayland will do anyway), wouldn't it be better to release a new and refined X12 based around the server-client design and be done with it?"
Finally someone asked, how about an answer as I don't see a reason for X12 not coming into existence either.
"Wayland uses X for "network transparency"."
And since X will no longer be maintained so much for that.
Need examples of lack of maintenance: User level display drivers, xfree86, etc.
Everyone of value will jump and X will die a slow death of bitrot.
Japan has a breeder reactor and yet they still have well filled spent fuel pools.
"No, the article is specifically speaking about sentient beings, not parasitic worms."
No, the article is specifically speaking about human beings, not parasitic worms.
Fixed that for ya. Now for a real question.
What's the difference human beings and parasitic worms?
"You are not a customer of your school, you are its product"
So the product rates less than the workers. Now I know why the product sucks. That also makes the parents and the public the customers so you better listen to them and find a way to do your job putting out the best product you can before you end up unemployed "teach".
Attitude is part of the problem and it just isn't the students that have it.
"...Military = good (protects God-given rights.)"
Um, which ones are those?
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Sanity loses again!!!
"It will discretly inform you when she's faking it.
It will also watch you masturbate."
Well if she's faking it aren't you essentially masturbating anyway?
"Mavrik and Peter jump on my back when I kneel to give them food...."
Wait till they get bigger. It will get old quick when they start creating welts in your back. I know from experience as I have lots of cats that do the same thing.
"hairy retarded love slaves"
Bruce,
You do realize what board you're speaking on right? For many slashdotters "hairy retarded love slaves" is about all they can hope for. (comment sexually agnostic for current generation but older generations it's mostly(I think) women love slaves)
Celle