"After all, getting a rescue dog is great, but it's only for experienced dog owners, because the rescue dog may come with all sorts of behavioural problems. And then what? You cannot take the dog back, that would only make him even more unhappy. You have to deal with the problems as best you can.
So, where does the necessary experience come from? The answer must be that it comes from training dogs who do not come with behavioural problems, such as dogs bought as puppies from a reputable breeder. If you ban dog sales, you also prevent people gaining the sort of experience they would need to be effective rescuers. "
Advertisement: Experienced first-time mothers needed. Must be able to raise the perfect child/pet to adulthood.
First time mothering is an on the job learning experience as you won't know what you're going to get until the little bundle has arrived. Taking care of pets is no different as they often become part of the family regardless of their good or bad points otherwise they're just possessions.
The rest of the BS you spouted is more about protecting your investment and getting the most for your money kind of like buying a car or house.
"'Think back to when you were a kid and your parents dropped you off at the library,' explains Agger. 'In the children's section, the only "inappropriate" stuff to be found was Judy Blume's Forever, which someone's older sister had usually already checked out anyway."
And when you were dropped off at the library how long did you stay in the children's section? That's when they had one. Stop dropping the job of parenting on the rest of us. You want to micro-manage your kids then stay with them 24/7 and don't complain about it since you chose to have them. Otherwise just guide them as they learn about these things that you're not ready for.
"so you're glad that your government decided to dump the electricity generation technology that has the fewest deaths per Joule, better than the next nearest by a factor of 10?"
Kind of depends on the measures that you use for deaths doesn't it? A lot of people who went back after the bombs fell in Japan died shortly thereafter. People have died in uranium mining as well as nuclear sites. Nuclear sites have higher incidence of leukemia and cancer and genetic damage (that's when they bother to measure it and the nuclear industry twists itself inside out to discount or bury) which are longer term killers the true cost of which won't be fully measured for centuries. Let's not forget the high cost of building, running, shutting down the plants and near infinite cost of waste disposal. Nevermind the cost of a disaster, with nuclear it always seems to be a disaster as accidents are rarely talked about and the cost of land lost to those disasters. Need examples: The US has quite a few nuclear superfund cleanup sites, shutdown reactors which are off limits, and leaking waste disposal sites, look them up yourself. Japan just expanded their exclusion zone and their food production operations have been compromised as their plant was in an agricultural region and had also dumped radioactive materials into the ocean.
There's also the short term focus and view of humans and their self-serving corporate creations versus the over-complicated systems, large consequences for small mistakes, and long term view of the nuclear "genie". Review the boondoggles of TEPCO and BP if you need examples. Of course, then there's government. Please review soviet response to Chernobyl in respect to other countries. Japanese government response to the plant disaster over the first few weeks(the play down game).
There's also political issues that don't even need to be specified as we're reminded of them on a regular basis.
With humans short existence and corresponding attention span: Other sources of energy are short term and with manageable effects. Nuclear is long term with often unmanageable(at our current level of development) effects.
Until nuclear finds a way to mitigate the effects of high cost of incidents and waste disposal it's not a practical method for long term power generation.
Nuclear has it's place. Unfortunately we just aren't there yet.
"Alternatively, we could consider removing the URL bar if it was replaced with a button that gave David Regev electroshock therapy every time it was clicked. Oh, and that Google guy too who's removing it."
Don't forget the slashdot editors as it might get rid of some of the badly selected, summarized, and duped stories. Oh and triple zap on the badly researched stories and slashads.
I won't get into national identity issues with you just point out that tourism brings in a lot of money to the treasury.
Damn fucking idiot.
Just because we think a 13 year old is too young here doesn't mean we have the right to shove that idea down the throat of someone who doesn't. I'll remind you America didn't think that way(13 is to young) either a few decades ago.
"If you instead do what this bill appears to propose, then the city government can ensure that their service goes to places that the private companies won't go right now, but it still leaves the door open for the private companies to go there later once the population grows enough to make it worthwhile."
So in other words it's a subsidy for future private expansion. Considering how much these companies ripped off the public on expansion in the nineties, fuck'em.
"Less stable than other Unix? The only major ones left are Solaris (costs money, except for OpenSolaris which is now zombified), HP/UX (won't run too well on your x86), and AIX (ditto)"
You know there are also the various BSDs. (FreeBSD, PCBSD, OpenBSD,...)
You don't need explosions for those to harm people. Radioactive contamination, air pollution, mining incidents, generations of cancer, dead zones, outright cost, centuries of waste storage, costly disasters,... if all the consequences of nuclear were piled into a single, per-decade event it would be an appalling accident, far worse than coal. Oops...
Fixed that for you.
How long will these reactors and area around them be sealed away? I've also noticed that whenever these types of arguments come around that nobody talks about the various nuclear sites under the superfund cleanup program. There is quite a lot of them and these areas took years just to get acknowledged there was a problem and then the sheer cost of cleaning them up and time involved for land that will be unusable for decades if not longer. This doesn't take into effect the areas around the sites either. Examples are everywhere of the risks of nuclear and the lack of backbone when owning up to the flaws of the technology. That backbone did exist in the seventies with the clean air and water acts, and with the people in power now it's little more than mush.
"General Electric's early mastery in the field of scientifically engineering breakage to control costs and sell replacement products"
Might want to talk to RCA about being first. They made their early consumer products in various flawed ways to sell parts and monetize the repair business thereby making money on both ends of their product lines. Then Sony came in with highly reliable, well built products and wiped them. Unfortunately now they all suck.
"Most of that energy comes from coal fueled power plants, which pump out more heavy metals (these ones going into the air), as well as nitrogen compounds that lead to acid rain."
Which by law those companies are supposed to be filtering out but are too cheap to do it. And congress/agencies are too spineless and unethical to protect us against those tightwad companies/industries lobbying/payoff efforts.
"If we vaporized nuclear waste and dumped it into the athmosphere, to fall down whereever, it would actually be a lot less dangerous than the uranium ore that was removed."
Then there shouldn't be a 20km dead zone around the Fukashima daiichi right? Won't let people in it = dead zone.
"I really like the Ubuntu Unity shell....You'd think computer experts would be up to realizing evolution happens, but alas, are as stuck in their ways as their windows counterparts. Alas."
A heretic. Kill the heretic!!! Kill the heretic!!!
"Boiling people in oil. Those were the days weren't they?" -- Carlin
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Come on guys!(and girls) (on slashdot--ah!!) It's just one Gnu/Linux distro(distro?-ick, ah well). How many others are out there? Ubuntu is largely controlled by Mark Shuttleworth so it will implemented as he sees fit, get over it. There is no such thing as something that works for everyone but he's trying. Don't like what Mark is doing to your favorite distro, make your own or switch to one of the scores of other ones or Ubuntu derivatives (Debian, Slackware, Fedora, Mint,...). Or even maybe one of the desktop BSD versions (PC-BSD, GnoBSD,...) or even shell BSD versions (FreeBSD, OpenBSD,...) or even Plan9 or Inferno. It's not like you don't have a selection.
I know people don't like change, I'm one of them, but I don't believe in the lack of change to the point of complacency is any better. Change is good as it cuts down on the brain rot and looking around we've unfortunately got more than enough in every endeavor. I'm not saying that change should be constantly happening as some consistency is also needed just for stability and comfort(ok, sanity) reasons. Every one has their own individual balance, to each his/her/its own. commentary/
Back to the horse and buggy everyone. Or at least to pre '80s cars with a dumb ignition/electrical system instead of this newer butt-kissing junk.
"The more they try to overtake the plumbing, the easier it is to stuff up the drain. " Scotty -- Star Trek III:The Search for Spock. (or was it "search for more money"?)
No reading slashdot for several years to make sure its stable and you know what the hell is going on and can comment properly is the first thing a newborns should do.
I started in linux with Yggdrasil and slackware around '94 from dos/amigaos/windows/os2. I'm sorry too Pat, I also moved to freebsd a long time ago as well. I still have most of my various operating systems from MSDOS 3.3, windows, os2, and Yggdrasil to around Slackware 10 on a couple of large shelves down in my basement.
I'd been using BBSs since the mid-eighties so I was aware how to use a modem. When the internet became available to homes in my area(95ish), I was online with slackware using ppp via dial-up about 15 minutes after I called to activate my account. The software the phone company sent me took two days to arrive and I don't think I ever used it beyond trying it out as slackware had everything I needed. I was amazed at the time at how fast and easy it was to get going without having to buy or download anything.
"The only possible scenario for QT under Microsoft's control
Qt is not under Microsoft's control. Nokia is not under Microsoft's control to begin with."
It's what Spock said when the Enterprise(nokia) was stuck in front of the Planet Killer(microsoft). "If we don't break free in sixty seconds, we never will."
With Elop at the controls I won't hold my breath for it. He seems determined to get swallowed up.
Nokia just cut off its dick and balls and the rest of the world knows it. Without its dick and balls it might as well bleed to death anyway considering everything else that will be going too.
Except that public schools are a government entity. I see a potential first amendment violation in this. I doubt she'll press anyway as I'm sure she still cares about her kids. Why bitch if you don't?
Professional behavior is often just a red-herring to hide things, public schools are public already so her bitching on a public forum is irrelevant. They're just mad it was on a forum the school couldn't censor. She just described the big elephant in the room when everyone else is attacking the schools and teachers and ignoring the rest.
A kids behavior starts at home with the parents. If a teacher feels under siege and holding the kids and their parents publicly responsible for their behavior works, well lets see. It's not like it hasn't been done before to other groups. She didn't single out anyone by name, so there's no the privacy violation. It's amazing that telling the truth is little more than a crime. Little white lies everywhere, they're still lies, what an example for kids.
"Does anyone want to be taught by someone who feels nothing but contempt for them?"
Ever been trained by someone you're replacing?
I do see fewer students wanting to be teachers with the low pay, shitty hours, district money games(paying for supplies), legal issues, parents/student behavior, ever larger class populations, and administration/school board political games.
Although what she did was stupid in the current public climate that teachers are just overpaid babysitters. That's instead of underpaid and overworked educators of many peoples most important assets. She still made her complaints about completely ignored problems known and probably knew what the expected response would be. Maybe she is brave. If you Consider many teachers have four year or more degrees and associated debt this kind of shitty response is just going to kill the pool of talent even more.
I'm still waiting for someone to accuse her of telling lies. If it's all the truth then the school response is just BS. The school needs to grow a pair and tell the parents to "really" talk to their kids more often than the holidays.
Having family members in the teaching profession I've heard my share of this.
"In fact, showing her kids that it's ok to not be scared to speak the truth despite possible retribution is a vitally important lesson, one which too few kids even learn in their entire lives... Instead they turn into Compliance Sheep who never speak up or fight for what they believe in."
Congrats, you just described one of the reasons why America is in freefall.
I have friends and siblings that used to teach. I asked them the same question before, during, and after, "Do you want to have kids?" Their responses yes and maybe before they were teaching. A solid no while they were teaching and all of them have kids now. But it took several years before any of them would have kids after they quit teaching. No one seems to realize the damage teaching other peoples spawn does to the teachers themselves.
Parents need to stop being spoiled about their kids and face the facts. Your kids just aren't perfect. Multiple George Carlin monologues about other people kids cover this better than I can, look them up yourself.
I have a simple fix for parents who bitch, close the schools and have the kids learn from home over the internet thereby sticking the parents with the responsibility of sacrificing their career to stay at home to see their kids learn instead of dumping the responsibility on the rest of us. And don't give me that socialization psycho-babble that's what the mall/community center/park/town square is for. After a couple of months I'm sure most of those parents would gladly pay the schools to take their spawn back then face their own mistakes full time any longer.
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"After all, getting a rescue dog is great, but it's only for experienced dog owners, because the rescue dog may come with all sorts of behavioural problems. And then what? You cannot take the dog back, that would only make him even more unhappy. You have to deal with the problems as best you can.
So, where does the necessary experience come from? The answer must be that it comes from training dogs who do not come with behavioural problems, such as dogs bought as puppies from a reputable breeder. If you ban dog sales, you also prevent people gaining the sort of experience they would need to be effective rescuers.
"
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Experienced first-time mothers needed. Must be able to raise the perfect child/pet to adulthood.
First time mothering is an on the job learning experience as you won't know what you're going to get until the little bundle has arrived. Taking care of pets is no different as they often become part of the family regardless of their good or bad points otherwise they're just possessions.
The rest of the BS you spouted is more about protecting your investment and getting the most for your money kind of like buying a car or house.
The best things in life are often unplanned.
And the ewoks homeworld looks like the forests of Tennessee.
"'Think back to when you were a kid and your parents dropped you off at the library,' explains Agger. 'In the children's section, the only "inappropriate" stuff to be found was Judy Blume's Forever, which someone's older sister had usually already checked out anyway."
And when you were dropped off at the library how long did you stay in the children's section? That's when they had one. Stop dropping the job of parenting on the rest of us. You want to micro-manage your kids then stay with them 24/7 and don't complain about it since you chose to have them. Otherwise just guide them as they learn about these things that you're not ready for.
"so you're glad that your government decided to dump the electricity generation technology that has the fewest deaths per Joule, better than the next nearest by a factor of 10?"
Kind of depends on the measures that you use for deaths doesn't it? A lot of people who went back after the bombs fell in Japan died shortly thereafter. People have died in uranium mining as well as nuclear sites. Nuclear sites have higher incidence of leukemia and cancer and genetic damage (that's when they bother to measure it and the nuclear industry twists itself inside out to discount or bury) which are longer term killers the true cost of which won't be fully measured for centuries. Let's not forget the high cost of building, running, shutting down the plants and near infinite cost of waste disposal. Nevermind the cost of a disaster, with nuclear it always seems to be a disaster as accidents are rarely talked about and the cost of land lost to those disasters. Need examples: The US has quite a few nuclear superfund cleanup sites, shutdown reactors which are off limits, and leaking waste disposal sites, look them up yourself. Japan just expanded their exclusion zone and their food production operations have been compromised as their plant was in an agricultural region and had also dumped radioactive materials into the ocean.
There's also the short term focus and view of humans and their self-serving corporate creations versus the over-complicated systems, large consequences for small mistakes, and long term view of the nuclear "genie". Review the boondoggles of TEPCO and BP if you need examples. Of course, then there's government. Please review soviet response to Chernobyl in respect to other countries. Japanese government response to the plant disaster over the first few weeks(the play down game).
There's also political issues that don't even need to be specified as we're reminded of them on a regular basis.
With humans short existence and corresponding attention span: Other sources of energy are short term and with manageable effects. Nuclear is long term with often unmanageable(at our current level of development) effects.
Until nuclear finds a way to mitigate the effects of high cost of incidents and waste disposal it's not a practical method for long term power generation.
Nuclear has it's place. Unfortunately we just aren't there yet.
"Alternatively, we could consider removing the URL bar if it was replaced with a button that gave David Regev electroshock therapy every time it was clicked. Oh, and that Google guy too who's removing it."
Don't forget the slashdot editors as it might get rid of some of the badly selected, summarized, and duped stories. Oh and triple zap on the badly researched stories and slashads.
"And what does culture produces exactly?"
I won't get into national identity issues with you just point out that tourism brings in a lot of money to the treasury.
Damn fucking idiot.
Just because we think a 13 year old is too young here doesn't mean we have the right to shove that idea down the throat of someone who doesn't. I'll remind you America didn't think that way(13 is to young) either a few decades ago.
"If you instead do what this bill appears to propose, then the city government can ensure that their service goes to places that the private companies won't go right now, but it still leaves the door open for the private companies to go there later once the population grows enough to make it worthwhile."
So in other words it's a subsidy for future private expansion. Considering how much these companies ripped off the public on expansion in the nineties, fuck'em.
"Less stable than other Unix? The only major ones left are Solaris (costs money, except for OpenSolaris which is now zombified), HP/UX (won't run too well on your x86), and AIX (ditto)"
You know there are also the various BSDs. (FreeBSD, PCBSD, OpenBSD, ...)
You don't need explosions for those to harm people. Radioactive contamination, air pollution, mining incidents, generations of cancer, dead zones, outright cost, centuries of waste storage, costly disasters, ... if all the consequences of nuclear were piled into a single, per-decade event it would be an appalling accident, far worse than coal. Oops ...
Fixed that for you.
How long will these reactors and area around them be sealed away? I've also noticed that whenever these types of arguments come around that nobody talks about the various nuclear sites under the superfund cleanup program. There is quite a lot of them and these areas took years just to get acknowledged there was a problem and then the sheer cost of cleaning them up and time involved for land that will be unusable for decades if not longer. This doesn't take into effect the areas around the sites either. Examples are everywhere of the risks of nuclear and the lack of backbone when owning up to the flaws of the technology. That backbone did exist in the seventies with the clean air and water acts, and with the people in power now it's little more than mush.
"General Electric's early mastery in the field of scientifically engineering breakage to control costs and sell replacement products"
Might want to talk to RCA about being first. They made their early consumer products in various flawed ways to sell parts and monetize the repair business thereby making money on both ends of their product lines. Then Sony came in with highly reliable, well built products and wiped them. Unfortunately now they all suck.
"Friendly Reminder: Apple, Google, Nintendo and Valve are the for-profit corporations a Slashdotter is permitted to like."
Friendly Reminder: There are NO for-profit corporations that a self-respecting Slashdotter is permitted to like.
Fixed that for you.
"Most of that energy comes from coal fueled power plants, which pump out more heavy metals (these ones going into the air), as well as nitrogen compounds that lead to acid rain."
Which by law those companies are supposed to be filtering out but are too cheap to do it. And congress/agencies are too spineless and unethical to protect us against those tightwad companies/industries lobbying/payoff efforts.
"If we vaporized nuclear waste and dumped it into the athmosphere, to fall down whereever, it would actually be a lot less dangerous than the uranium ore that was removed."
Then there shouldn't be a 20km dead zone around the Fukashima daiichi right? Won't let people in it = dead zone.
"I really like the Ubuntu Unity shell. ...You'd think computer experts would be up to realizing evolution happens, but alas, are as stuck in their ways as their windows counterparts. Alas."
A heretic.
Kill the heretic!!! Kill the heretic!!!
"Boiling people in oil. Those were the days weren't they?" -- Carlin
commentary/ ...). Or even maybe one of the desktop BSD versions (PC-BSD, GnoBSD, ...) or even shell BSD versions (FreeBSD, OpenBSD, ...) or even Plan9 or Inferno. It's not like you don't have a selection.
Come on guys!(and girls) (on slashdot--ah!!) It's just one Gnu/Linux distro(distro?-ick, ah well). How many others are out there? Ubuntu is largely controlled by Mark Shuttleworth so it will implemented as he sees fit, get over it. There is no such thing as something that works for everyone but he's trying. Don't like what Mark is doing to your favorite distro, make your own or switch to one of the scores of other ones or Ubuntu derivatives (Debian, Slackware, Fedora, Mint,
I know people don't like change, I'm one of them, but I don't believe in the lack of change to the point of complacency is any better. Change is good as it cuts down on the brain rot and looking around we've unfortunately got more than enough in every endeavor. I'm not saying that change should be constantly happening as some consistency is also needed just for stability and comfort(ok, sanity) reasons. Every one has their own individual balance, to each his/her/its own.
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Back to the horse and buggy everyone.
Or at least to pre '80s cars with a dumb ignition/electrical system instead of this newer butt-kissing junk.
"The more they try to overtake the plumbing, the easier it is to stuff up the drain. "
Scotty -- Star Trek III:The Search for Spock. (or was it "search for more money"?)
No reading slashdot for several years to make sure its stable and you know what the hell is going on and can comment properly is the first thing a newborns should do.
Ok, taco, time to kick their ass.
It's flash that's problematic not Freebsd.
He was talking about Freebsd. Yes, it sometimes still has problems. (damn npviewer)
Ya, but at the time it also was a bit of a memory hog. Slackware ran just fine in half the memory. I do agree it was slick though.
I started in linux with Yggdrasil and slackware around '94 from dos/amigaos/windows/os2. I'm sorry too Pat, I also moved to freebsd a long time ago as well. I still have most of my various operating systems from MSDOS 3.3, windows, os2, and Yggdrasil to around Slackware 10 on a couple of large shelves down in my basement.
I'd been using BBSs since the mid-eighties so I was aware how to use a modem. When the internet became available to homes in my area(95ish), I was online with slackware using ppp via dial-up about 15 minutes after I called to activate my account. The software the phone company sent me took two days to arrive and I don't think I ever used it beyond trying it out as slackware had everything I needed. I was amazed at the time at how fast and easy it was to get going without having to buy or download anything.
"The only possible scenario for QT under Microsoft's control
Qt is not under Microsoft's control. Nokia is not under Microsoft's control to begin with."
It's what Spock said when the Enterprise(nokia) was stuck in front of the Planet Killer(microsoft). "If we don't break free in sixty seconds, we never will."
With Elop at the controls I won't hold my breath for it. He seems determined to get swallowed up.
Nokia just cut off its dick and balls and the rest of the world knows it. Without its dick and balls it might as well bleed to death anyway considering everything else that will be going too.
Then teach your kid at home. I've met several people just in the last couple of years who now do that in response to "abusive schools".
Except that public schools are a government entity. I see a potential first amendment violation in this. I doubt she'll press anyway as I'm sure she still cares about her kids. Why bitch if you don't?
Professional behavior is often just a red-herring to hide things, public schools are public already so her bitching on a public forum is irrelevant. They're just mad it was on a forum the school couldn't censor. She just described the big elephant in the room when everyone else is attacking the schools and teachers and ignoring the rest.
A kids behavior starts at home with the parents. If a teacher feels under siege and holding the kids and their parents publicly responsible for their behavior works, well lets see. It's not like it hasn't been done before to other groups. She didn't single out anyone by name, so there's no the privacy violation. It's amazing that telling the truth is little more than a crime. Little white lies everywhere, they're still lies, what an example for kids.
"Does anyone want to be taught by someone who feels nothing but contempt for them?"
Ever been trained by someone you're replacing?
I do see fewer students wanting to be teachers with the low pay, shitty hours, district money games(paying for supplies), legal issues, parents/student behavior, ever larger class populations, and administration/school board political games.
Although what she did was stupid in the current public climate that teachers are just overpaid babysitters. That's instead of underpaid and overworked educators of many peoples most important assets. She still made her complaints about completely ignored problems known and probably knew what the expected response would be. Maybe she is brave. If you Consider many teachers have four year or more degrees and associated debt this kind of shitty response is just going to kill the pool of talent even more.
I'm still waiting for someone to accuse her of telling lies. If it's all the truth then the school response is just BS. The school needs to grow a pair and tell the parents to "really" talk to their kids more often than the holidays.
Having family members in the teaching profession I've heard my share of this.
"In fact, showing her kids that it's ok to not be scared to speak the truth despite possible retribution is a vitally important lesson, one which too few kids even learn in their entire lives... Instead they turn into Compliance Sheep who never speak up or fight for what they believe in."
Congrats, you just described one of the reasons why America is in freefall.
I have friends and siblings that used to teach. I asked them the same question before, during, and after, "Do you want to have kids?" Their responses yes and maybe before they were teaching. A solid no while they were teaching and all of them have kids now. But it took several years before any of them would have kids after they quit teaching. No one seems to realize the damage teaching other peoples spawn does to the teachers themselves.
Parents need to stop being spoiled about their kids and face the facts. Your kids just aren't perfect. Multiple George Carlin monologues about other people kids cover this better than I can, look them up yourself.
I have a simple fix for parents who bitch, close the schools and have the kids learn from home over the internet thereby sticking the parents with the responsibility of sacrificing their career to stay at home to see their kids learn instead of dumping the responsibility on the rest of us. And don't give me that socialization psycho-babble that's what the mall/community center/park/town square is for. After a couple of months I'm sure most of those parents would gladly pay the schools to take their spawn back then face their own mistakes full time any longer.