Causing people to commit suicide? Could you be any more incorrect or full of shit? Talk about a blatant misrepresentation of events, you couldn't be any more transparent if you hung a "I'm a dumbshit and I hate Apple" sign around your neck.
Why don't you try getting your facts straight before you start criticizing someone else?
"he difference is that other phones aren't considered divine by their users."
- I wonder where the hypocrisy will end with you people? Show me a bunch of posts where iPhone owners are saying their phones are divine? They like the phone they purchased, that's all. And some times they get sick of haters (such as yourself) making shit up (see you previous posting) to justify their hatred of all things Apple, so they speak out. Hardly a case of thinking their phone is divine, just people sick and tired of listening to whining haters lie their ass off to justify their anger.
"The problems you describe are not detrimental to the function of the phone."
- I assure you that if Apple released a phone where the picture's taken on it were pink you'd hear Apple haters howling. No matter how minor the issue, whether it can be corrected by software, it wasn't corrected immediately, they didn't include some feature (SSH in a toaster functionality), the haters are whining.
"in the case of the aerial issues it's affecting nearly all users"
- It most certainly is not affecting all the users. Please show me some valid documentation to support that wild claim.
I'm not saying Apple is perfect, but your comments just reek of someone who is looking for a reason to justify their hate of Apple. You're more than willing to forgive anyone else's defects, but not Apple, oh no. How hypocritical.
1. I would argue that it was built better than other phones when it came out as evidenced by their industry leading customer satisfaction percentage for the last two years.
2. OS X is inflexible? I'd say it's as flexible as Linux or Windows. Just like either one of those OS's you can do a certain amount through the GUI and if you want to really make it sing you have to go to the command line and have a basic understanding of the OS. I call BS on this point.
3. The GP's post WAS a troll. Most (if not all) trolls are opinions and it was full of overblown hyperbole and inaccuracies. I'd say that qualified it as a troll, or at least a grossly stupid posting at the least. For the record, I call BS on your "an opinion i happen to share after years of dealing with Apple hardware" statement. You're telling me you don't like Apple hardware, but you keep buying it year over year? Are you stupid or just lying?
So the obvious question based on your response is how do YOU access the internet unhindered? That would seem to solve the problem for the original post.
I'm sure they'll adjust the formula for showing bars, but it does not take several weeks to do to that code change. I can do it in 10 minutes. Neither is significant testing necessary on that code change, so why does it take several weeks? The answer is they are trying to fix the issue via antenna reception software algorithm and it's going to take a few weeks to make changes, test, tweak changes, test, etc.
I'm an Apple fan, but this statement does not align with the known issues. I would prefer they admit a problem and fix it via software than lie about a problem and fix it via software, but as long as they fix it then I guess that's the desired outcome. Still, this has given them a big PR black eye and it's going to take time to recover from that beating.
No offense, but you have got to quit sniffing the military's panties. That was point blank negligent murder that I saw on the video, and you know it.
I suppose the government hid it because it was obviously a justified shooting?
You've got your head in the sand.
I think you're right on the money except the percentage of anti-Christian causes that the Republican party stands for is much higher. Approaching 100%. Greed, hate, lack of love/compassion, love of war, love of money, pursuit of power, dishonesty. . . . well you get the point.
You're right, it's not being a good citizen, but it's also not being a good Christian.
Unfortunately the religious right got hijacked during the Bush years and turned into the exact opposite of what the Bible commands of them. Instead of compassionate, loving, generous to the poor, mild tempered, etc. they are frothing at the mouth pit bulls that focus on only two issue: abortion and gay marriage. A great lesson in blinding someone with a tiny issue to make sure they ignore the huge issues.
You sound anti-Apple to me. "They always act so holier than thou"? I think it may be your hypersensitivity that is the issue rather than Apple.
As for them fessing up to a design problem. If it is a design issue (still a bit early to be sure) then they need to admit it, give free bumper or a refund. If software fixes it then that is fine too. What they do need to do is communicate better and let people know they are looking into it.
Are you really making the argument that there was no difference between a Palm phone and the iPhone? Really? Because that is pure BS. The poster you replied to is right on the money. The iPhone has had a HUGE impact on the mobile landscape and on handset design. Some of these technologies did exist before the iPhone, yes, but the iPhone implemented them so much better that EVERYONE knew something revolutionary had been released. Go back and look at the press releases from Jan 2007. Tech analysts were gasping in the audience during the demo, no one had seen it implemented like this before.
Your cheese-ball excuse that this is all good marketing is burying your head in the sand.
And I think you misunderstand history in this context. First, Microsoft did not save Apple. Second, this is not the late 70's, early 80's, the landscape is much different. The iPod has been wildly successful despite all the iPod killers. The iPhone has been wildly successful despite all the iPhone killers (seems everyone knows this is the top dog and why they're trying to kill it in the first place). Mac sales our growing at about double the industry rate. Apple leads both customer satisfaction and customer service polls for several years now.
Ahh, I've visited this idiots site before. Apple fan or hater, if you want to see the lowest rung on the evolutionary chain then swing over there. It gave me the mental image of a bunch of 15 year old geeks in a circle, masturbating and saying "you sure got told". I tried to ask one of them what that stupid phrase meant and their reply made no sense. Not sure how so many idiots managed to find the same site, like flies to a pile of shit I imagine.
I wouldn't say better, just a different approach. If you picked one narrow customer demographic then you could probably make a general argument that one is better than the other, but as a whole each has strengths and weaknesses with their current business model. I don't see Apple flailing at all. I see them spending a lot of effort developing the original iPhone concept, only to see everyone copy them when it came out, and now they are not going to stand by and let others poach for free. They learned their lesson from MS in the 80's. Time will tell how this will all shake out, but as an Apple fan I don't expect them to trounce everyone (nor do I necessarily want it for competitive reasons) and I think the Apple haters are foolish in thinking this is going to sink Apple.
Define high and mid range? From what I've seen in the US, Android phones cost $99-$299 (w/2 yr contract), which is the same price point as iPhones. I think they are also about the same price without a contract. I think it's a myth that Android phones are any cheaper.
Wow, that's an interesting spin. The oil industry is the helpless victim of government. They never would have been drilling out there if they just could have drilled on the land and fucked it up? What a load of shit.
What is going on with this post? Do you work for Verizon or someone else? This looks like a classic case of FUD to try and freeze sales of the iPad with a fake rumor. Even the premise is ridiculous, that whether the iPad is AT&T or Verizon will make no difference. This might float on TechNewbie.com, but the people here are not going to buy it.
While I suspect the iPhone envy comment was designed to get under their skin a bit, I doubt it's necessarily envy. I think it's more like blind Apple hatred that is driving much of this. While some complaints have some minor grains of truth to them, most of them seem blown ridiculously out of proportion. I imagine that most of the people who are so vocal against it have never used an Apple product, don't have an understanding of why people love them so much and so they make fun of what they don't understand.
While Apple haters like to trot out this security through obscurity crap, it's well known to anyone with an ounce of brains that it has been debunked many times over. Apple products aren't perfect, but in 10 YEARS OS X has not had a single virus. Previous version of the Mac OS had a lower percentage of the market and they actually had a few viruses. OS X is not perfect, but it's record is very clear so far on this.
As for the Apple preferring the silent failure option, it seems that you are making shit up. Very clever, saying that since you don't see any failure message Apple must be hiding it. A huge lie of course, but a nice attempt for the other sheep and haters to latch on to.
In the end you're just full of shit and making crap up to justify your dislike of Apple. I bid you a very warm welcome to the world where people see through your BS and call you out on it every time.
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Causing people to commit suicide? Could you be any more incorrect or full of shit? Talk about a blatant misrepresentation of events, you couldn't be any more transparent if you hung a "I'm a dumbshit and I hate Apple" sign around your neck.
Why don't you try getting your facts straight before you start criticizing someone else?
No mod points to offer, but you made me laugh on that reply. I notice he's been very quiet since you slapped him down ;)
"he difference is that other phones aren't considered divine by their users."
- I wonder where the hypocrisy will end with you people? Show me a bunch of posts where iPhone owners are saying their phones are divine? They like the phone they purchased, that's all. And some times they get sick of haters (such as yourself) making shit up (see you previous posting) to justify their hatred of all things Apple, so they speak out. Hardly a case of thinking their phone is divine, just people sick and tired of listening to whining haters lie their ass off to justify their anger.
"The problems you describe are not detrimental to the function of the phone."
- I assure you that if Apple released a phone where the picture's taken on it were pink you'd hear Apple haters howling. No matter how minor the issue, whether it can be corrected by software, it wasn't corrected immediately, they didn't include some feature (SSH in a toaster functionality), the haters are whining.
"in the case of the aerial issues it's affecting nearly all users"
- It most certainly is not affecting all the users. Please show me some valid documentation to support that wild claim.
I'm not saying Apple is perfect, but your comments just reek of someone who is looking for a reason to justify their hate of Apple. You're more than willing to forgive anyone else's defects, but not Apple, oh no. How hypocritical.
"Many people have experience of Apple products and have been underwhelmed by them."
- Conversely many people have experience of Apple products and have been overwhelmed by them too.
1. I would argue that it was built better than other phones when it came out as evidenced by their industry leading customer satisfaction percentage for the last two years.
2. OS X is inflexible? I'd say it's as flexible as Linux or Windows. Just like either one of those OS's you can do a certain amount through the GUI and if you want to really make it sing you have to go to the command line and have a basic understanding of the OS. I call BS on this point.
3. The GP's post WAS a troll. Most (if not all) trolls are opinions and it was full of overblown hyperbole and inaccuracies. I'd say that qualified it as a troll, or at least a grossly stupid posting at the least. For the record, I call BS on your "an opinion i happen to share after years of dealing with Apple hardware" statement. You're telling me you don't like Apple hardware, but you keep buying it year over year? Are you stupid or just lying?
Operational security? Really? Is there a threat that the booms won't suck up oil if you get within 64 feet of them?
Boy the government sure has a good lapdog in you, doesn't it?
So the obvious question based on your response is how do YOU access the internet unhindered? That would seem to solve the problem for the original post.
I'm sure they'll adjust the formula for showing bars, but it does not take several weeks to do to that code change. I can do it in 10 minutes. Neither is significant testing necessary on that code change, so why does it take several weeks? The answer is they are trying to fix the issue via antenna reception software algorithm and it's going to take a few weeks to make changes, test, tweak changes, test, etc.
I'm an Apple fan, but this statement does not align with the known issues. I would prefer they admit a problem and fix it via software than lie about a problem and fix it via software, but as long as they fix it then I guess that's the desired outcome. Still, this has given them a big PR black eye and it's going to take time to recover from that beating.
No offense, but you have got to quit sniffing the military's panties. That was point blank negligent murder that I saw on the video, and you know it. I suppose the government hid it because it was obviously a justified shooting? You've got your head in the sand.
Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about. You're either the dumbest person in the world or just dishonest.
I think you're right on the money except the percentage of anti-Christian causes that the Republican party stands for is much higher. Approaching 100%. Greed, hate, lack of love/compassion, love of war, love of money, pursuit of power, dishonesty. . . . well you get the point.
You're right, it's not being a good citizen, but it's also not being a good Christian.
Unfortunately the religious right got hijacked during the Bush years and turned into the exact opposite of what the Bible commands of them. Instead of compassionate, loving, generous to the poor, mild tempered, etc. they are frothing at the mouth pit bulls that focus on only two issue: abortion and gay marriage. A great lesson in blinding someone with a tiny issue to make sure they ignore the huge issues.
The Nexus cost the same as an iPhone. There is no savings with Android handsets.
Sorry, but you answer doesn't hold water.
You sound anti-Apple to me. "They always act so holier than thou"? I think it may be your hypersensitivity that is the issue rather than Apple.
As for them fessing up to a design problem. If it is a design issue (still a bit early to be sure) then they need to admit it, give free bumper or a refund. If software fixes it then that is fine too. What they do need to do is communicate better and let people know they are looking into it.
Once again, Android had this feature long before the iPhone. . .
Are you really making the argument that there was no difference between a Palm phone and the iPhone? Really? Because that is pure BS. The poster you replied to is right on the money. The iPhone has had a HUGE impact on the mobile landscape and on handset design. Some of these technologies did exist before the iPhone, yes, but the iPhone implemented them so much better that EVERYONE knew something revolutionary had been released. Go back and look at the press releases from Jan 2007. Tech analysts were gasping in the audience during the demo, no one had seen it implemented like this before.
Your cheese-ball excuse that this is all good marketing is burying your head in the sand.
iPad is the new iPhone. Very successful so far.
And I think you misunderstand history in this context. First, Microsoft did not save Apple. Second, this is not the late 70's, early 80's, the landscape is much different. The iPod has been wildly successful despite all the iPod killers. The iPhone has been wildly successful despite all the iPhone killers (seems everyone knows this is the top dog and why they're trying to kill it in the first place). Mac sales our growing at about double the industry rate. Apple leads both customer satisfaction and customer service polls for several years now.
Apple is doing just fine.
Ahh, I've visited this idiots site before. Apple fan or hater, if you want to see the lowest rung on the evolutionary chain then swing over there. It gave me the mental image of a bunch of 15 year old geeks in a circle, masturbating and saying "you sure got told". I tried to ask one of them what that stupid phrase meant and their reply made no sense. Not sure how so many idiots managed to find the same site, like flies to a pile of shit I imagine.
I wouldn't say better, just a different approach. If you picked one narrow customer demographic then you could probably make a general argument that one is better than the other, but as a whole each has strengths and weaknesses with their current business model. I don't see Apple flailing at all. I see them spending a lot of effort developing the original iPhone concept, only to see everyone copy them when it came out, and now they are not going to stand by and let others poach for free. They learned their lesson from MS in the 80's. Time will tell how this will all shake out, but as an Apple fan I don't expect them to trounce everyone (nor do I necessarily want it for competitive reasons) and I think the Apple haters are foolish in thinking this is going to sink Apple.
Define high and mid range? From what I've seen in the US, Android phones cost $99-$299 (w/2 yr contract), which is the same price point as iPhones. I think they are also about the same price without a contract. I think it's a myth that Android phones are any cheaper.
Wow, that's an interesting spin. The oil industry is the helpless victim of government. They never would have been drilling out there if they just could have drilled on the land and fucked it up? What a load of shit.
What is going on with this post? Do you work for Verizon or someone else? This looks like a classic case of FUD to try and freeze sales of the iPad with a fake rumor. Even the premise is ridiculous, that whether the iPad is AT&T or Verizon will make no difference. This might float on TechNewbie.com, but the people here are not going to buy it.
While I suspect the iPhone envy comment was designed to get under their skin a bit, I doubt it's necessarily envy. I think it's more like blind Apple hatred that is driving much of this. While some complaints have some minor grains of truth to them, most of them seem blown ridiculously out of proportion. I imagine that most of the people who are so vocal against it have never used an Apple product, don't have an understanding of why people love them so much and so they make fun of what they don't understand.
While Apple haters like to trot out this security through obscurity crap, it's well known to anyone with an ounce of brains that it has been debunked many times over. Apple products aren't perfect, but in 10 YEARS OS X has not had a single virus. Previous version of the Mac OS had a lower percentage of the market and they actually had a few viruses. OS X is not perfect, but it's record is very clear so far on this.
As for the Apple preferring the silent failure option, it seems that you are making shit up. Very clever, saying that since you don't see any failure message Apple must be hiding it. A huge lie of course, but a nice attempt for the other sheep and haters to latch on to.
In the end you're just full of shit and making crap up to justify your dislike of Apple. I bid you a very warm welcome to the world where people see through your BS and call you out on it every time.