anyone else read that and feel like the author just has an axe to grind against online gaming.
I think he is kind of shortsighted by saying (strongly implying at least) that full games will never be web based.
I certainly can see (as broadband speeds increase) purchasing a game like halo, and you download the 30 mg level in a 30 seconds. Video clips are streamed in real-time instead of being played off the DVD.
Am I just off here, or was that author lacking vision.
This is all about IE7. They want to get as many people using IE7 as possible, and that will only run on SP2. I really don't see anything wrong with this though...
[sarcasim] I'm sure stacked away in an entertainment center is a going to be a HUGE difference from lining up a fw PS3s on a showroom floor.
Come on, seriously.... the PS3 is going to be overheating in every living room its in. Is anybody (who isn't just an anti-ms zealot) seriously considering getting one of these?
No gamer plays games for the pretty video trailers at the end of a level or check points.
As far as rendering large levels or detailed game play graphics, developers don't even use up the current generation's 4 gigs.... its the VIDEO clips that use all the space.
Sony bragging that they can have tons of high def video clips in a game is great and all but its just FUD directed as MS. I typically skip out of the clips when I see them. And it sure isn't worth all the extra money to me to have them. And frankly at the slow read/transfer speeds of the first generation b-drive in the PS3... 50 gigs is going to be painful, slow, not worth it.
Why is it that every time MS releases a new OS the moon-bats come out and start claiming it's the end of MS. Each time its "the software is over complicated", "it has backwards compatibility problems", "it's too expensive", "they missed the boat because it took too long", etc. etc. This has been going on since Windows 95.
I wish the "media" and "news" services would stop projecting their HOPES and WISHES as being real news or valid predictions. There is a big distinction between making an educated guess/prediction, and trying to make a case for wishful thinking.
I would have hoped that news services would be a little bit above this type of spotty journalism.
Let me go on the record as saying THIS IS NOT THE END OF WINDOWS AND CERTIANLY NOT THE END OF MS.
PS A real prediction would be it's the beginning of the end of for Apple's OSX.
This board is filled with jokes, sarcasim, and crying about IE being bundled in Windows. MS bundling IE and not allowing the engine to be uninstalled is the correct solution for Windows. The fact that so many slashdoters continue to harp on this is dishartening...
The IE engine is just important to many Windows devleopers as the winsock controls, button, image, or even the media controls. Windows is the #1 OS because of developers making software for the OS, and they do that because MS makes it easy for them. You can use visual studio to just drop a browser engine on the form... virtually no coding, and for many ISVs it means the difference from having a full featured app and not having one at all.
And for the record, you CAN remove/uninstall IE's shortcuts and icons from the OS (for many years now). Once removed, and for all practical purposes, IE is not available to the end user. The engine stays because it is not just for the blue IE icon on the desktop, its used in Help files, its used by developers, etc.
So PLEASE, stop your F*ing crying and get over it... IE is bundled in windows, and it has been GOOD for Windows software development. And incase you hypocrites forgot, Safari is bundled in OSX and can't be removed fully either.
Using AJAX in almost all cases is just a few lines of code, most of it identical from prject to project.... populating list boxes, content, etc. Its pretty simplistic... why do we need "tool-kits" for this?
I mean, if you can't take 30 minutes to an hour (tops) to read a short book on AJAX concepts/examples then you really shouldn't be developing ANY web apps. Its not like this stuff is rocket science, or even a new idea/concept. How many years has this functionality been in IE? 5 or 6 years?
The larger issue at hand is this. At what point is programming going to stop being dumbed down at the cost of performace and good clean code? Is it ever going to stop?
I think for this to work (good idea) it would require a comapny like MS to "play ball", and they won't. It is to their benefit if the HARDWARE can't just work out of the box on ANY OS. Imagine if any card could just work on linux and OSX? Then this spread to TV cards, and all other hardware devices.... Windows has a monoply because most software and hardware is made for WINDOWS, and I don't see MS giving that up so easily...
"Don't you just love Microsoft's live demonstrations?"
As if MS is the only one who has problems with demonstrations. This is the problem with anti-ms guys... its not that MS is perfect, its just that the zelots are blinded by hate.
I thought if you just parse out the ' in user input you are immune. No?
With all my Web Apps I create a function called SafeChar, and have it replace the ' with '.
How else is SQL injection done? It's an embarrassing questions to ask, and fortunately I write software for small companies internal use only... but if you don't ask I guess you don't learn.
That thought is terribly flawed, at least from a small business' perspective. Rapid software development is key. For one main reason. Before you have a product it makes you $0. After you launch it (assuming you do a good job) it makes revenue and can pay for its maintenance. Its now making you money instead of costing you money. It may not matter to MS, but to small business it means the world. It's simple logic really, and you'll find it's how most small-medium software companies look at it. We may hear a lot about the big guys (Adobe, MS, Apple, etc.), but there are 1000s more that are small. For them developing a new product can decide whether they sink or swim TODAY. Let's face it, we would all rather take a slightly less profit and actually have a PROFIT then to wind up never getting anything at all because its development costs were so high.
Flame me if you want, but this just isn't as good as IE 7 beta 3. They are going to need to do better than this to stop IE 7 from steam rolling the browser to under 5% share.
"...you'd have to DMA it up to your cell chip and then process a little chunk, then DMA the next chunk, so you won't be able to jump around the memory as easily, which I guess you will be able to do on the Xbox 360."
"I guess"? Thats a HUGE deal. In essence you cripple all of the other cores. Not to mention we have seen articles posted on slashdot before that point out you can't use all 8 cores for a game, but "I guess" that is another topic all together.
"I guess" what I'm getting at is that this guy is obviously bias and doing a fluff piece/ damage control. His choice of words is very telling, and the attempt to downplay a HUGE gotcha makes me skeptical of everything he says.
I can't speak to PS3 development (yet), because none of my clients are working with it... but I look forward to having the opportunity... but this article makes me believe that it really is as bad as others have said.
lets the spinning begin, and ironically the MS bashing to start. I think its funny this is going to turn into a debate on Windows Security, but what can you do.
An observation I made in a post a few months ago was that since 2001 Apple has released 5 different releases of OSX, 4 of witch were paid upgrades (approx. $600 if you were staying current all along). They have patched literally thousands of bugs and security holes and continue to do so at a pretty steady rate. We don't hear about it, (In my opinion) because the media contains a majority of zealot mac users, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.
It's also worth noting that apple has less then a 5% market share. It wasn't until Firefox hit around 10% we started to see hackers paying attention and start exploiting the MS alternative product. It wasn't that is was so much more secure before, turns out just nobody cared to exploit it when it had no market share. If apple ever gained a respectable market share I believe they would have more holes then windows.
And before you say "its unix"... blah blah blah. You all said it wasn't "unix" a couple of weeks ago when the government released the unix/apple security holes, witch by the way were about triple the windows holes.
anyways go ahead and flame me, but I think its still pretty funny to see this "old" hole. Especially after reading the MS VP response earlier, and some arrogant SOB cleverly writes something to the affect "i'd like to see those same questions submitted to the security guy over at apple, what a difference it would be"... LOL... how does crow taste?
why is this front-page news? I know I get flamed every time I say this, but it still needs to be said.
CmdrTaco is posting more dups and more crap than any other editor (by 10 fold). I know he created the site, but still.... i mean come on. Either someone else is using his account, or he should take a break and spend more time programming for the site... .
Go ahead and suck up to him and flame me, but you can't tell me you haven't noticed this either.
"In any case, anything Microsoft does to burn its cash uselessly has got to be good, somehow."
It is still $150mill in advertising. I think you are a fool to say that advertising is just uselessly burning cash. You might not like the theme of the commercials, but it does make sense. The US isn't popular in many places in the World, and right now MS is seen as a big US company. Helping them helps the US.
"What do they think? That the foreigners are easy to fool?"
Anyone in the advertising industry knows how easily people's impressions are changed by ad campaigns. Hell, any critical thinker understands that. So either you are the fool or just trying to create a point when you have none.
So they advertise Windows in a way that makes the company look smaller.... they are still advertising Windows. A big company develops a (savvy) marketing strategy for their target audience, that's news?
If people like you ever stopped for just one minute to try and understand why MS does some of the things they do you might see why they aren't as moronic as you pretend and why they have the most successfully software company in the history of world (unlike yourself).
It's pretty easy to criticize someone's success, but it's much harder to actually achieve it. I'd say your sales and marketing guys are fairly competent when you have upwards of 90% of a market share, wouldn't you? If they analyze a situation and make a recommendation I would probably listen, you wouldn't? Certainly I wouldn't be implying they don't know what they are doing or saying they are just wasting money, but hey, I'm not some zealot bashing MS every chance I get.... so whatever.
All hail Matt Szulik!
Oh incase you didn't know that is Redhat's CEO, what's their market share again?
"The players that license FairPlay would have access to the iTunes store, backwards compatibility with the songs consumers have already purchased, and a chance to compete on a perfectly level playing field with the iPod"
Is this guy that big of a fanboy that he thinks that being locked into the Apple only DRM and Hardware with no hope of using anything else is a good thing? At least with MS you could choose the stores and the hardware you want, from dozens of different sources.
What could apple possibly gain from MS jumping into the MP3 player market other then modest bragging rights? Its not like MS doesn't have the cash to burn... and MS has a MUCH better business model. Provide the architecture and let the hundreds of hardware makers out there fight apple with hardware designs. Job's was clearly just trying to get some headlines. Actually Job's reminds me of a small hyperactive kid that annoys everyone hiding behind is Dad (a.k.a the media) sticking out his tongue at the other kids knowing he is safe because Dad will protect him (for example the media doesn't ask him any difficult questions).
This guy is blinded by his homo-erotic love of Steve Jobs and Apple. The real question to ask is how this article made it to the front page?
Well I guess we can't compare and contrast individual hypocrisy on Slashdot until this topic is finished, but anyone who is honest (you apparently are not or just in denial) knows that there will be a strong defense of apple on this topic simply because its "apple". Just like there was strong opposition to MS simply because it was MS. Guess what, they do post in both threads. Crazy huh?
You response unwittingly walked into what I was mocking, you simplistic drone, you unintelligible fan boy. It's ok though, you're just "simple". The world needs people like you; you make the rest of us look brilliant.
"Personally I think this is an example of a good technology (RSS) that Microsoft is trying to co-opt by coming out with something marginally "better" -- mostly just more complex -- so they can attain some elements of control over it."
"Why must they add their own custom extension to everything? It seems their behaviour (almost) always ends up leaving security holes in people's machines."
"Microsoft's motto is embrace and extend. It embraces like a boa constrictor, and then extends like a medieval torture rack. Microsoft, sit down, and let's hear from someone else."
"Or to coin a phrase, bastandardizations."
My brain is having problems with "Microsoft" and "sharing" being in the same sentence without "against" or "forbids" being involved.
to hear the spin on this one. We all saw what you guys write about MS's embrace and extend. How are you going to put a positive spin on this one?!
I look forward to reading your posts...
Just remember that whole "intellectually honest" thing... i know many of you hate to play by those rules, but this is a case where you can prove me wrong by not just jumping in line.
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I know you guys are going to flame (like usuall) for saying anything that is pro-ms or suggests they did a decent job, but could we at least reserve the flames to people who have actually set it up and used it? Thanks in advance.
seriously, who cares that Dell is selling a 30"? Is this really front page news? I mean it's not like the technology isn't new, and HP and Apple have been selling awesome 30" flat panels for years.
I know you created the site (CmdrTaco), so all much respect goes out to you and this rather large accomplishment, but lately you've been posting lots of dupes and fluff like this... what's going on?
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anyone else read that and feel like the author just has an axe to grind against online gaming.
I think he is kind of shortsighted by saying (strongly implying at least) that full games will never be web based.
I certainly can see (as broadband speeds increase) purchasing a game like halo, and you download the 30 mg level in a 30 seconds. Video clips are streamed in real-time instead of being played off the DVD.
Am I just off here, or was that author lacking vision.
It sounds like its the same thing MS and Novell have been doing with remote profiles for a decade.
I know the Apple fanboys are going to claim Apple invented this idea as well, but throwing a profile on a usb stick really isn't that revolutionary.
This is all about IE7. They want to get as many people using IE7 as possible, and that will only run on SP2. I really don't see anything wrong with this though...
[sarcasim] I'm sure stacked away in an entertainment center is a going to be a HUGE difference from lining up a fw PS3s on a showroom floor.
Come on, seriously.... the PS3 is going to be overheating in every living room its in. Is anybody (who isn't just an anti-ms zealot) seriously considering getting one of these?
MS was behind PassPort and anything MS is evil amd bad... right guys?
No gamer plays games for the pretty video trailers at the end of a level or check points.
As far as rendering large levels or detailed game play graphics, developers don't even use up the current generation's 4 gigs.... its the VIDEO clips that use all the space.
Sony bragging that they can have tons of high def video clips in a game is great and all but its just FUD directed as MS. I typically skip out of the clips when I see them. And it sure isn't worth all the extra money to me to have them. And frankly at the slow read/transfer speeds of the first generation b-drive in the PS3... 50 gigs is going to be painful, slow, not worth it.
Sony is graspong at straws.
Why is it that every time MS releases a new OS the moon-bats come out and start claiming it's the end of MS. Each time its "the software is over complicated", "it has backwards compatibility problems", "it's too expensive", "they missed the boat because it took too long", etc. etc. This has been going on since Windows 95.
I wish the "media" and "news" services would stop projecting their HOPES and WISHES as being real news or valid predictions. There is a big distinction between making an educated guess/prediction, and trying to make a case for wishful thinking.
I would have hoped that news services would be a little bit above this type of spotty journalism.
Let me go on the record as saying THIS IS NOT THE END OF WINDOWS AND CERTIANLY NOT THE END OF MS.
PS
A real prediction would be it's the beginning of the end of for Apple's OSX.
communism allies with OSS. Capitalism is pro-MS.
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LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!
This board is filled with jokes, sarcasim, and crying about IE being bundled in Windows. MS bundling IE and not allowing the engine to be uninstalled is the correct solution for Windows. The fact that so many slashdoters continue to harp on this is dishartening...
The IE engine is just important to many Windows devleopers as the winsock controls, button, image, or even the media controls. Windows is the #1 OS because of developers making software for the OS, and they do that because MS makes it easy for them. You can use visual studio to just drop a browser engine on the form... virtually no coding, and for many ISVs it means the difference from having a full featured app and not having one at all.
And for the record, you CAN remove/uninstall IE's shortcuts and icons from the OS (for many years now). Once removed, and for all practical purposes, IE is not available to the end user. The engine stays because it is not just for the blue IE icon on the desktop, its used in Help files, its used by developers, etc.
So PLEASE, stop your F*ing crying and get over it... IE is bundled in windows, and it has been GOOD for Windows software development. And incase you hypocrites forgot, Safari is bundled in OSX and can't be removed fully either.
Using AJAX in almost all cases is just a few lines of code, most of it identical from prject to project.... populating list boxes, content, etc. Its pretty simplistic... why do we need "tool-kits" for this?
I mean, if you can't take 30 minutes to an hour (tops) to read a short book on AJAX concepts/examples then you really shouldn't be developing ANY web apps. Its not like this stuff is rocket science, or even a new idea/concept. How many years has this functionality been in IE? 5 or 6 years?
The larger issue at hand is this. At what point is programming going to stop being dumbed down at the cost of performace and good clean code? Is it ever going to stop?
isn't this the same guy who couldn't figure out he was using a PIRATED windows xp serial?
I think for this to work (good idea) it would require a comapny like MS to "play ball", and they won't. It is to their benefit if the HARDWARE can't just work out of the box on ANY OS. Imagine if any card could just work on linux and OSX? Then this spread to TV cards, and all other hardware devices.... Windows has a monoply because most software and hardware is made for WINDOWS, and I don't see MS giving that up so easily...
"Don't you just love Microsoft's live demonstrations?"
As if MS is the only one who has problems with demonstrations. This is the problem with anti-ms guys... its not that MS is perfect, its just that the zelots are blinded by hate.
I thought if you just parse out the ' in user input you are immune. No?
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With all my Web Apps I create a function called SafeChar, and have it replace the ' with '
How else is SQL injection done? It's an embarrassing questions to ask, and fortunately I write software for small companies internal use only... but if you don't ask I guess you don't learn.
That thought is terribly flawed, at least from a small business' perspective. Rapid software development is key. For one main reason. Before you have a product it makes you $0. After you launch it (assuming you do a good job) it makes revenue and can pay for its maintenance. Its now making you money instead of costing you money. It may not matter to MS, but to small business it means the world.
It's simple logic really, and you'll find it's how most small-medium software companies look at it. We may hear a lot about the big guys (Adobe, MS, Apple, etc.), but there are 1000s more that are small. For them developing a new product can decide whether they sink or swim TODAY.
Let's face it, we would all rather take a slightly less profit and actually have a PROFIT then to wind up never getting anything at all because its development costs were so high.
Flame me if you want, but this just isn't as good as IE 7 beta 3. They are going to need to do better than this to stop IE 7 from steam rolling the browser to under 5% share.
"...you'd have to DMA it up to your cell chip and then process a little chunk, then DMA the next chunk, so you won't be able to jump around the memory as easily, which I guess you will be able to do on the Xbox 360."
"I guess"? Thats a HUGE deal. In essence you cripple all of the other cores. Not to mention we have seen articles posted on slashdot before that point out you can't use all 8 cores for a game, but "I guess" that is another topic all together.
"I guess" what I'm getting at is that this guy is obviously bias and doing a fluff piece/ damage control. His choice of words is very telling, and the attempt to downplay a HUGE gotcha makes me skeptical of everything he says.
I can't speak to PS3 development (yet), because none of my clients are working with it... but I look forward to having the opportunity... but this article makes me believe that it really is as bad as others have said.
lets the spinning begin, and ironically the MS bashing to start. I think its funny this is going to turn into a debate on Windows Security, but what can you do.
... LOL ... how does crow taste?
An observation I made in a post a few months ago was that since 2001 Apple has released 5 different releases of OSX, 4 of witch were paid upgrades (approx. $600 if you were staying current all along). They have patched literally thousands of bugs and security holes and continue to do so at a pretty steady rate. We don't hear about it, (In my opinion) because the media contains a majority of zealot mac users, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.
It's also worth noting that apple has less then a 5% market share. It wasn't until Firefox hit around 10% we started to see hackers paying attention and start exploiting the MS alternative product. It wasn't that is was so much more secure before, turns out just nobody cared to exploit it when it had no market share. If apple ever gained a respectable market share I believe they would have more holes then windows.
And before you say "its unix"... blah blah blah. You all said it wasn't "unix" a couple of weeks ago when the government released the unix/apple security holes, witch by the way were about triple the windows holes.
anyways go ahead and flame me, but I think its still pretty funny to see this "old" hole. Especially after reading the MS VP response earlier, and some arrogant SOB cleverly writes something to the affect "i'd like to see those same questions submitted to the security guy over at apple, what a difference it would be"
why is this front-page news? I know I get flamed every time I say this, but it still needs to be said.
CmdrTaco is posting more dups and more crap than any other editor (by 10 fold). I know he created the site, but still.... i mean come on. Either someone else is using his account, or he should take a break and spend more time programming for the site... .
Go ahead and suck up to him and flame me, but you can't tell me you haven't noticed this either.
"In any case, anything Microsoft does to burn its cash uselessly has got to be good, somehow."
It is still $150mill in advertising. I think you are a fool to say that advertising is just uselessly burning cash. You might not like the theme of the commercials, but it does make sense. The US isn't popular in many places in the World, and right now MS is seen as a big US company. Helping them helps the US.
"What do they think? That the foreigners are easy to fool?"
Anyone in the advertising industry knows how easily people's impressions are changed by ad campaigns. Hell, any critical thinker understands that. So either you are the fool or just trying to create a point when you have none.
So they advertise Windows in a way that makes the company look smaller.... they are still advertising Windows. A big company develops a (savvy) marketing strategy for their target audience, that's news?
If people like you ever stopped for just one minute to try and understand why MS does some of the things they do you might see why they aren't as moronic as you pretend and why they have the most successfully software company in the history of world (unlike yourself).
It's pretty easy to criticize someone's success, but it's much harder to actually achieve it. I'd say your sales and marketing guys are fairly competent when you have upwards of 90% of a market share, wouldn't you? If they analyze a situation and make a recommendation I would probably listen, you wouldn't? Certainly I wouldn't be implying they don't know what they are doing or saying they are just wasting money, but hey, I'm not some zealot bashing MS every chance I get.... so whatever.
All hail Matt Szulik!
Oh incase you didn't know that is Redhat's CEO, what's their market share again?
"The players that license FairPlay would have access to the iTunes store, backwards compatibility with the songs consumers have already purchased, and a chance to compete on a perfectly level playing field with the iPod"
Is this guy that big of a fanboy that he thinks that being locked into the Apple only DRM and Hardware with no hope of using anything else is a good thing? At least with MS you could choose the stores and the hardware you want, from dozens of different sources.
What could apple possibly gain from MS jumping into the MP3 player market other then modest bragging rights? Its not like MS doesn't have the cash to burn... and MS has a MUCH better business model. Provide the architecture and let the hundreds of hardware makers out there fight apple with hardware designs. Job's was clearly just trying to get some headlines. Actually Job's reminds me of a small hyperactive kid that annoys everyone hiding behind is Dad (a.k.a the media) sticking out his tongue at the other kids knowing he is safe because Dad will protect him (for example the media doesn't ask him any difficult questions).
This guy is blinded by his homo-erotic love of Steve Jobs and Apple. The real question to ask is how this article made it to the front page?
Well I guess we can't compare and contrast individual hypocrisy on Slashdot until this topic is finished, but anyone who is honest (you apparently are not or just in denial) knows that there will be a strong defense of apple on this topic simply because its "apple". Just like there was strong opposition to MS simply because it was MS. Guess what, they do post in both threads. Crazy huh?
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You response unwittingly walked into what I was mocking, you simplistic drone, you unintelligible fan boy. It's ok though, you're just "simple". The world needs people like you; you make the rest of us look brilliant.
Here are a couple of previous topics on MS extending RSS and PUBLSIHNG the extensions under the Creative commons license (unlike Apple who isn't publishing under the CCL). These are SLASHDOT threads, never mind the hypocrisy we see on the Apple fanboy websites.
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/22/22
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/
Here are some lovely Slashdot member quotes:
"Personally I think this is an example of a good technology (RSS) that Microsoft is trying to co-opt by coming out with something marginally "better" -- mostly just more complex -- so they can attain some elements of control over it."
"Why must they add their own custom extension to everything? It seems their behaviour (almost) always ends up leaving security holes in people's machines."
"Microsoft's motto is embrace and extend.
It embraces like a boa constrictor, and then extends like a medieval torture rack.
Microsoft, sit down, and let's hear from someone else."
"Or to coin a phrase, bastandardizations."
My brain is having problems with "Microsoft" and "sharing" being in the same sentence without "against" or "forbids" being involved.
to hear the spin on this one. We all saw what you guys write about MS's embrace and extend. How are you going to put a positive spin on this one?!
I look forward to reading your posts...
Just remember that whole "intellectually honest" thing... i know many of you hate to play by those rules, but this is a case where you can prove me wrong by not just jumping in line.
Since the latest Exchange Service pack introduced the upgraded spam filter I get, maybe 1 spam email, every few weeks. It seems to catch them all and put it in the junk-email folder. Only one false spam id so far. Spam still comes in, but it never gets in my way... not to mention it doesn't cost me anything extra for the filter so I'm pretty content.
I know you guys are going to flame (like usuall) for saying anything that is pro-ms or suggests they did a decent job, but could we at least reserve the flames to people who have actually set it up and used it? Thanks in advance.
-C
seriously, who cares that Dell is selling a 30"? Is this really front page news? I mean it's not like the technology isn't new, and HP and Apple have been selling awesome 30" flat panels for years.
I know you created the site (CmdrTaco), so all much respect goes out to you and this rather large accomplishment, but lately you've been posting lots of dupes and fluff like this... what's going on?