It really is a crime that the head of the legal system in this country is asking that the law be broken for a period of time. I am so irritated I'm practically speechless. The DOJ is so out of line here.
The law is the law is the law! I (honestly) believe we should move to impeach AT Alberto R. Gonzales. Any attorney general that abuses their power by trying to directly influence the legal system to delay their inconvenience should not be the head of our nation's law enforcement.
If we (as citizens) don't move to stop these types of injustices from our government, we will be no different then one of the war-lord run nations of Africa. This is a slippery slope, and make no mistake, this IS precedent setting.
Until now we weren't sure that the Xbox 360 was going to
support many games at all. Certainly not what model it was going to use.
Now we learn that they will be making the emulators long after its release, and
most likely ANY NEW XBOX game will come with a 360 emulator. This is a big plus
for gamers.We should be happy to see the MODEL being used. I've seen too
many 'that sucks' and complaints and it really surprises me... well... I
guess its important to know the audience on this site.
The truth is it's also a blow to Sony; because recent
rumblings have been they won't be 100% backwards compatible, and they already
said they won't offer an
XBox-Live style service.So how do you support more games after the
release? Some type of system updater? In any case it won't be as
familiar to people as Live is. Being able to jump on live and just
download the emulator for your game is pretty easy for the end user. If
any of you have seen the latest
PS3 screen shot,
well its pretty confusing layout (lets hope Sony changes it).
The bottom line is this a pretty good business decision for
MS. They have the potential to be virtually 100% backwards compatible over
time. I'm SURE they are going to crank out emulators like crazy after launch.
212 is allot, and if you look at the time-line since the 360 was finished (most
likely around the time they started making the emulators), this was probably all
they could get done by launch. I will take the bet that the majority of the Xbox games
will be backwards compatible by Sony's PS3 launch in the US. In either
case this is good news for gamers, not a "this sucks" kinda repot.
I know you were kidding, but actually you are probably correct. I'm pretty sure I read around the time service pack 2 was being developed that MS announced that their service pack/upgrade schedule for their operating system software was going to be 24 month cycles. Good call man...
A big problem with his premise is no companies would be able to purchase a computer from Dell, HP, IBM, etc. until 2008. As soon as Vista is released they will stop offering XP (almost immediately), and start offering only Vista. It's the way of the world. You can erase vista and install XP, but that would be foolish, not to mention they got a license for Vista with the purchase of the machine.
I'm also disagree with his reasons, but I'm not going to take the "flame-bait";)
Your numbers were close, but not accurate, well at least according to the NY Times and Associated Press. AOL has 119 million, google has about 87 million visitors. Those numbers are pretty recent, I believe this past september. AOL represents 12% of GOOGLE's ad revenue and that made $380 million for GOOGLE. I haven't seen anything that says how much AOL makes on it, do you have some info to back up the $300mill?
"If Time Warner used AOL's parental controls, enforced them through the cable modem, and pushed hard to make a kid/family friendly service, I'm sure they'd do very well with it."
They did that. Its pretty effective in Windows (don't know about the mac). It may have bad marketing, but still they did do it.
well for starters MS isn't bundling anything or abusing their monopoly to get AOL as a customer. MS doesn't have a monopoly in search, if anything Google does. They aren't using windows (their monopoly) to get aol.
Bundling had to do with giving their software away free with their operating system, and on top of that, the violation was they didn't give people a choice to use a different product. Search doesn't work that way. People have a choice... e.g. don't use AOL or MSN. MS is using their money to invest in AOL, but it isn't against the law for them to invest in other companies. There is NO law that restricts MS from winning new clients, and they aren't breaking any laws to win aol as one.
Even more importantly MS is NOT buying AOL, Time Warner still will own AOL. Basically it just means they have an agreement (for X amount of years) to use MS's ads and share their web/media content on MS's portal (and visa versa). This is a GREAT deal for AOL, and it doesn't put aol's competitors out of business.
Here, what you are saying would be similar to this; MS cuts a deal with GE to sell them 60,000 windows licenses at a discounted rate. GE is a potential customer with a choice to go with Red Hat or MS. They choose MS because Windows is in "their opinion" more cost efficient or whatever. There is nothing wrong or illegal with that. Wal-Mart does similar things all the time to small businesses. It may not be nice, but it certainly is legal, and is why they are the biggest retailer in the world.
You can't scream monopoly every time MS succeeds in something, but that doesn't make it true. AOL is simply a potential customer who is struggling. MS will give them some money to stay in business in return for them using their ad services and sharing media. Almost identical to what they did for apple in the 90s ($150million) to stay in business, in return apple included IE on their computers. Its perfectly legal business and no laws are being broken.
First let me state that I believe MS will win against Google. Also let's point out that AOL accounts for 12% of Google's annual revenue, and that is nothing to laugh at ($380million). The NY Times has also reported that MS is the front runner. http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_110 3765.html
So what is at stake and why is AOL so important? Well take a look at these stats (as reported by the NY Times the nation's paper of record). September rankings 1. Yahoo: 123 million users 2. Time Warner (AOL and related sites): 119 million 3. MSN and other Microsoft sites: 114 million 4. Google: 87.6 million
Combine AOL and MSN and they almost double yahoo and are almost 3 times Google! Advertisers will KILL to get their ads in front at that number of possible people. As far as Google's superior tools... they aren't THAT much better. 87.6million vs 233million is a big difference and lets face it MS has very good developers, lots of resources, and will catch up. They always do.
Now where is the growth? Well, the real crown jewel is getting access to Time Warner's arsenal of media content. Most people expected the next big wave to be media, and AOL is the gateway to one of the biggest deposits on the planet.
The winner of this battle wins more then just bragging rights. If MS beats out Google, it's going to be a HUGE hit for them financially. It's more then just loosing their 12% of revenue each year. It will also mean they will loose their premier advertising title. People will start throwing money at advertising with MSN strictly for the numbers, and that will result in more losses for both yahoo and Google.
This is much more then a warning shot across Google's bow. I see this as a precise incision, not at Google's hear, more like cutting off one of Google's legs. They can live without it, but in a race you do best with both legs.
Dell has low prices because of large production lines. A small change in the line changes the price radically. The reason the Linux machines aren't as cheap is because so few are purchased. Also Dell gets money (savings get passed to consumer) from software companies promoting their product on WINDOWS, and their aren't many (if ANY) that do that for the Linux machines.
This is a lame conspiracy theory, and frankly makes the Linux crowd seem desperate. I'm not trolling, but you can't honestly think this is anything other then a wild attempt to explain slower then expected adoption rates.
The reason it is more expensive has to do with economics of supply and demand, volume, etc. How this got put on the front page TWICE in such a short period of time really blows my mind.
This is outrageous. The biggest threat to the US economy isn't china or the eu like many analysts say, it's the abuse of patent laws. I think I am going to patent blowing your nose. Maybe I will patent the letter "t"; I'll trademark it too, and then charge royalties to all of you who use it on your keyboard. How absurd. We will see forums patented, etc. etc.
We need reform, and we need it NOW. I'd say the two biggest issues that the Federal government is failing in right now are Patent reform and Illegal Immigration.
If the the law doesn't stop soon, we will see our economy tank. When you stifle creativity and innovation (like these abuses do) then a free economy no longer exists, and that society will fail.
Meryl Lynch reported that the Xbox 360 could be as low as $250 this spring and MS would still make a profit. The revolution won't be out that soon, and when it does come out, chances are MS will only be charging a couple hundred dollars at the most. So unless the revolution starts at $100 at release, it will most likely be the same or more then the Xbox 360.
That's a great question. I haven't seen or demoed anything regarding that.
Off the top of my head my guess is MS won't do it. Not because they are above it, but because they would get killed in the media if they did. On the other hand a company like Sony (especially after this root kit stuff) is probably salivating at the chance of doing it.
This really could carry over to serial numbers and activation too. It's a pretty grey area, and I have to believe that society as a whole will reject this simply on the grounds we like are privacy. But maybe not, we certainly have done things in recent years that has surprised me.
In any case I'll start asking around next time I'm at a conference. Really good question.
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Windows Vista will make IPv6 the protocol of choice. You can bind IPv4 and IPv6 in different orders on the NIC and it will enable great support for the protocol. They are even talking about having it running as part of the default install.
MS is developing Vista to enable programmers to push Home Automation. One thing they are doing is adding in that area is the functionality for IP's to securely be handled like a plug and play device. This isn't for printers on a network; it's for all the appliances in your house. IPv4 just doesn't work well for home automation. Also another sign is the majority of GE prototypes all are geared towards IPv6 not IPv4.
The regional specs that come with IPv6 are also huge things for MSN, Google, and Yahoo. It will allow your search (and Ads for that matter) results for a "pizza place" to give you the ones in your area without any additional info.
Vista will start the ball rolling, and the other two items will make the transition come very quickly. Security is also nice, and will help stop allot of traditional hacking, but the end user doesn't get excited about that. They will get excited about the other stuff though.
Two years from now we will start to see IPv6 becoming very common.
Come on seriously, is the OpenDocument in that much trouble you have to list these guys. How could you forget to say IBM and Sun aren't using MS Office too? Sure they offer competing products, but hey, they aren't using MS Office.
From the article: " Red Hat, Adobe, Computer Associates, Corel, Nokia, Intel and Linux e-mail company Scalix, in addition to Oracle, Novell and Google" With the exception of Intel, these are ALL hard liners against MS. My god, they listed LINUX outfits!!!! They can't even use MS Office. Intel sends reps to ALL of things on both sides of the isle, but at the end of the day, they will go MS.
This is complete fan boy press for the open document... and another example of how the quality front page posts on slashdot are dropping. Go ahead and flame me, but you know that this is just a fluff piece for Open Document, and a poor attempt to make it look like it is gaining support. Intellectually dishonest.
Your husband must be a very patient man (sorry shouldn't assume with you, maybe I should say patient person?). I haven't "met" him, but I certainly have gotten a glimpse of the torture he must go throw having to communicate with you on a daily basis. He is a saint.
For the record, my post was very clear, and accurate. Others evidently agreed since it is ranked high and interesting. And your last (really first) point about you having a difficulty with comprehension, well put, and I hope this isn't too confusing for you.
I'm going to stop replying now, because you are starting to bore me. I have that option, but sadly your husband does not. Again, a saint.
"you have suffered in your abilities to meet women"
I never said that. I said I haven't met many competent women in IT. Big difference. And for that matter isn't a reflection on me, but the women in IT (assuming I am correct assessing their competency in the field, which I am).
Oh you know what... you probably have a hard time distinguishing this so let me clarify; by saying "met", I was speaking specifically to "working with". Nothing more.
You have a real hard time comprehending things don't you? That's too bad. Good luck with that. Make sure to read this slowly, I wouldn't want you to have anymore trouble retaining the information.
"Your post did NOT imply, at least to my reading, that you were only specifically speaking about the very first release"
Great point! Having said "OSX 10.0", I can see you would get confused. Oh wait, that does specifically state the first release. hmmmmm....
As far as my feelings or pride being hurt, they aren't, I do however get irritated with extreme stupidity. Of course your clarification of being a woman does help. I haven't met very many competent women in the IT world, and with that info your absurd attempt at a defense makes a bit more sense. Thanks.
I was "specifically discussing the very first release of that product" you idiot. ANYONE who used the product knows what a complete piece of shit it was. OSX 10.0 was horrible by all accounts. It was the first release, just like this phone is Apple's first attempt at a phone. It got much better, just like this mp3 phone will get better in other releases. I couldn't have been much more clear in my first post... you just tried to play a game of "got-ya" and it blew up in your face.
What happened is you thought you were allot more informed then you are. You showed yourself to be a rookie, an ignorant fool, and now, aren't man enough to admit you are embarrassingly wrong. The link I gave you to APPLE'S OWN WEBSITE SAYS IT IS OSX v10.4, NOT OSX!!!!!! EVEN THE BOX AT THE STORE SAYS OSX v10.4!
"Maintain" whatever you want, you are wrong, and look VERY stupid at this point. My guess is you are used to it, and just don't know enough to be embarrassed.
"Mainly because Microsoft is the only major company that's explicitly stated a desire to control all aspects of computer"
MS doesn't control the hardware, and has no intention of it, so that would make your statement false, "all aspects of computer". However, let me introduce you to Apple (www.apple.com). The company that not only bundles all the things MS bundles (media player, IE, etc.), but are a "monopoly" on hardware for their closed source operating systems (osx). Its a complete closed circuit system, realistically, worse then MS, but with a much much smaller market share.
Oh and don't kid yourself, Steve Jobs wants to "own the world". Anyone who has been around since the 80's knows damm well that Steve Jobs is no saint, he just got beat by MS. In any case, check them out, maybe you can start flaming them along with MS.
"as a certain large software company located in the North-West of the United States of America might wish otherwise, there are many different operating systems and platforms in use in the world today. "
If his first sentence isn't trolling I don't know what is. Why is it ok to do it against MS, but nobody else? You do it against MS, you make the front page, against apple you get flamed.
I don't believe Apple made the deal with Motorola with intentions of not cannibalizing their iPod line.
I think they had two motives. One, to get a foot in the door of an emerging market. Two, the 100 song limit gets most people to (in theory) spend $100 bucks at iTunes for their music. When they want to add more they have to buy a bigger device, and if they go with anything other then an iPod it is throwing away the $100 on the iTunes songs. It is a savvy business decision.
The first iPod wasn't perfect. There were lots of improvements made along the way. Even the nano has some problems (all the screen lawsuits). Apple just dropped the ball. Not Motorola either, Apple had almost complete control over this device (like they do with all their projects), and Motorola did what they wanted to get the deal. Apple wanted this to be a big hit, because it would eventually sell more iPods and get them in a new market.
I think it is far more likely that this story is a creation of an Apple zealot who can't reconcile that Apple is capable of making a bad product. They already know apple will make business decisions they don't support (150mil from MS, Intel Chips), and it's easier for them to believe Apple is brilliant/sneaky, then incompetent in an area.
Apple made OSX 10.0 as a way to drive people to Windows.
Seriosuly, how did this post make is to the front page of slashdot? Its a first attempt, they will get better over time, especially as technology improves. That aside, apple certainly doesn't want its good name attached to things that flop. Its bad PR.
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It really is a crime that the head of the legal system in this country is asking that the law be broken for a period of time. I am so irritated I'm practically speechless. The DOJ is so out of line here.
The law is the law is the law! I (honestly) believe we should move to impeach AT Alberto R. Gonzales. Any attorney general that abuses their power by trying to directly influence the legal system to delay their inconvenience should not be the head of our nation's law enforcement.
If we (as citizens) don't move to stop these types of injustices from our government, we will be no different then one of the war-lord run nations of Africa. This is a slippery slope, and make no mistake, this IS precedent setting.
Until now we weren't sure that the Xbox 360 was going to support many games at all. Certainly not what model it was going to use. Now we learn that they will be making the emulators long after its release, and most likely ANY NEW XBOX game will come with a 360 emulator. This is a big plus for gamers.We should be happy to see the MODEL being used. I've seen too many 'that sucks' and complaints and it really surprises me... well... I guess its important to know the audience on this site.
The truth is it's also a blow to Sony; because recent rumblings have been they won't be 100% backwards compatible, and they already said they won't offer an XBox-Live style service.So how do you support more games after the release? Some type of system updater? In any case it won't be as familiar to people as Live is. Being able to jump on live and just download the emulator for your game is pretty easy for the end user. If any of you have seen the latest PS3 screen shot, well its pretty confusing layout (lets hope Sony changes it).
The bottom line is this a pretty good business decision for MS. They have the potential to be virtually 100% backwards compatible over time. I'm SURE they are going to crank out emulators like crazy after launch. 212 is allot, and if you look at the time-line since the 360 was finished (most likely around the time they started making the emulators), this was probably all they could get done by launch. I will take the bet that the majority of the Xbox games will be backwards compatible by Sony's PS3 launch in the US. In either case this is good news for gamers, not a "this sucks" kinda repot.
I know you were kidding, but actually you are probably correct. I'm pretty sure I read around the time service pack 2 was being developed that MS announced that their service pack/upgrade schedule for their operating system software was going to be 24 month cycles. Good call man...
A big problem with his premise is no companies would be able to purchase a computer from Dell, HP, IBM, etc. until 2008. As soon as Vista is released they will stop offering XP (almost immediately), and start offering only Vista. It's the way of the world. You can erase vista and install XP, but that would be foolish, not to mention they got a license for Vista with the purchase of the machine.
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I'm also disagree with his reasons, but I'm not going to take the "flame-bait"
Your numbers were close, but not accurate, well at least according to the NY Times and Associated Press. AOL has 119 million, google has about 87 million visitors. Those numbers are pretty recent, I believe this past september. AOL represents 12% of GOOGLE's ad revenue and that made $380 million for GOOGLE. I haven't seen anything that says how much AOL makes on it, do you have some info to back up the $300mill?
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"If Time Warner used AOL's parental controls, enforced them through the cable modem, and pushed hard to make a kid/family friendly service, I'm sure they'd do very well with it."
They did that. Its pretty effective in Windows (don't know about the mac). It may have bad marketing, but still they did do it.
well for starters MS isn't bundling anything or abusing their monopoly to get AOL as a customer. MS doesn't have a monopoly in search, if anything Google does. They aren't using windows (their monopoly) to get aol.
Bundling had to do with giving their software away free with their operating system, and on top of that, the violation was they didn't give people a choice to use a different product. Search doesn't work that way. People have a choice... e.g. don't use AOL or MSN. MS is using their money to invest in AOL, but it isn't against the law for them to invest in other companies. There is NO law that restricts MS from winning new clients, and they aren't breaking any laws to win aol as one.
Even more importantly MS is NOT buying AOL, Time Warner still will own AOL. Basically it just means they have an agreement (for X amount of years) to use MS's ads and share their web/media content on MS's portal (and visa versa). This is a GREAT deal for AOL, and it doesn't put aol's competitors out of business.
Here, what you are saying would be similar to this; MS cuts a deal with GE to sell them 60,000 windows licenses at a discounted rate. GE is a potential customer with a choice to go with Red Hat or MS. They choose MS because Windows is in "their opinion" more cost efficient or whatever. There is nothing wrong or illegal with that. Wal-Mart does similar things all the time to small businesses. It may not be nice, but it certainly is legal, and is why they are the biggest retailer in the world.
You can't scream monopoly every time MS succeeds in something, but that doesn't make it true. AOL is simply a potential customer who is struggling. MS will give them some money to stay in business in return for them using their ad services and sharing media. Almost identical to what they did for apple in the 90s ($150million) to stay in business, in return apple included IE on their computers. Its perfectly legal business and no laws are being broken.
First let me state that I believe MS will win against Google. Also let's point out that AOL accounts for 12% of Google's annual revenue, and that is nothing to laugh at ($380million). The NY Times has also reported that MS is the front runner. http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_110 3765.html
So what is at stake and why is AOL so important? Well take a look at these stats (as reported by the NY Times the nation's paper of record).
September rankings
1. Yahoo: 123 million users
2. Time Warner (AOL and related sites): 119 million
3. MSN and other Microsoft sites: 114 million
4. Google: 87.6 million
Combine AOL and MSN and they almost double yahoo and are almost 3 times Google! Advertisers will KILL to get their ads in front at that number of possible people. As far as Google's superior tools... they aren't THAT much better. 87.6million vs 233million is a big difference and lets face it MS has very good developers, lots of resources, and will catch up. They always do.
Now where is the growth? Well, the real crown jewel is getting access to Time Warner's arsenal of media content. Most people expected the next big wave to be media, and AOL is the gateway to one of the biggest deposits on the planet.
The winner of this battle wins more then just bragging rights. If MS beats out Google, it's going to be a HUGE hit for them financially. It's more then just loosing their 12% of revenue each year. It will also mean they will loose their premier advertising title. People will start throwing money at advertising with MSN strictly for the numbers, and that will result in more losses for both yahoo and Google.
This is much more then a warning shot across Google's bow. I see this as a precise incision, not at Google's hear, more like cutting off one of Google's legs. They can live without it, but in a race you do best with both legs.
Dell has low prices because of large production lines. A small change in the line changes the price radically. The reason the Linux machines aren't as cheap is because so few are purchased. Also Dell gets money (savings get passed to consumer) from software companies promoting their product on WINDOWS, and their aren't many (if ANY) that do that for the Linux machines.
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This is a lame conspiracy theory, and frankly makes the Linux crowd seem desperate. I'm not trolling, but you can't honestly think this is anything other then a wild attempt to explain slower then expected adoption rates.
The reason it is more expensive has to do with economics of supply and demand, volume, etc. How this got put on the front page TWICE in such a short period of time really blows my mind.
Last Time: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10
This is outrageous. The biggest threat to the US economy isn't china or the eu like many analysts say, it's the abuse of patent laws. I think I am going to patent blowing your nose. Maybe I will patent the letter "t"; I'll trademark it too, and then charge royalties to all of you who use it on your keyboard. How absurd. We will see forums patented, etc. etc.
We need reform, and we need it NOW. I'd say the two biggest issues that the Federal government is failing in right now are Patent reform and Illegal Immigration.
If the the law doesn't stop soon, we will see our economy tank. When you stifle creativity and innovation (like these abuses do) then a free economy no longer exists, and that society will fail.
Meryl Lynch reported that the Xbox 360 could be as low as $250 this spring and MS would still make a profit. The revolution won't be out that soon, and when it does come out, chances are MS will only be charging a couple hundred dollars at the most. So unless the revolution starts at $100 at release, it will most likely be the same or more then the Xbox 360.
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That's a great question. I haven't seen or demoed anything regarding that.
Off the top of my head my guess is MS won't do it. Not because they are above it, but because they would get killed in the media if they did. On the other hand a company like Sony (especially after this root kit stuff) is probably salivating at the chance of doing it.
This really could carry over to serial numbers and activation too. It's a pretty grey area, and I have to believe that society as a whole will reject this simply on the grounds we like are privacy. But maybe not, we certainly have done things in recent years that has surprised me.
In any case I'll start asking around next time I'm at a conference. Really good question.
Windows Vista will make IPv6 the protocol of choice. You can bind IPv4 and IPv6 in different orders on the NIC and it will enable great support for the protocol. They are even talking about having it running as part of the default install.
MS is developing Vista to enable programmers to push Home Automation. One thing they are doing is adding in that area is the functionality for IP's to securely be handled like a plug and play device. This isn't for printers on a network; it's for all the appliances in your house. IPv4 just doesn't work well for home automation. Also another sign is the majority of GE prototypes all are geared towards IPv6 not IPv4.
The regional specs that come with IPv6 are also huge things for MSN, Google, and Yahoo. It will allow your search (and Ads for that matter) results for a "pizza place" to give you the ones in your area without any additional info.
Vista will start the ball rolling, and the other two items will make the transition come very quickly. Security is also nice, and will help stop allot of traditional hacking, but the end user doesn't get excited about that. They will get excited about the other stuff though.
Two years from now we will start to see IPv6 becoming very common.
"including Oracle, Google and Novell"
Come on seriously, is the OpenDocument in that much trouble you have to list these guys. How could you forget to say IBM and Sun aren't using MS Office too? Sure they offer competing products, but hey, they aren't using MS Office.
From the article: " Red Hat, Adobe, Computer Associates, Corel, Nokia, Intel and Linux e-mail company Scalix, in addition to Oracle, Novell and Google"
With the exception of Intel, these are ALL hard liners against MS. My god, they listed LINUX outfits!!!! They can't even use MS Office. Intel sends reps to ALL of things on both sides of the isle, but at the end of the day, they will go MS.
This is complete fan boy press for the open document... and another example of how the quality front page posts on slashdot are dropping. Go ahead and flame me, but you know that this is just a fluff piece for Open Document, and a poor attempt to make it look like it is gaining support. Intellectually dishonest.
Your husband must be a very patient man (sorry shouldn't assume with you, maybe I should say patient person?). I haven't "met" him, but I certainly have gotten a glimpse of the torture he must go throw having to communicate with you on a daily basis. He is a saint.
For the record, my post was very clear, and accurate. Others evidently agreed since it is ranked high and interesting. And your last (really first) point about you having a difficulty with comprehension, well put, and I hope this isn't too confusing for you.
I'm going to stop replying now, because you are starting to bore me. I have that option, but sadly your husband does not. Again, a saint.
"you have suffered in your abilities to meet women"
I never said that. I said I haven't met many competent women in IT. Big difference. And for that matter isn't a reflection on me, but the women in IT (assuming I am correct assessing their competency in the field, which I am).
Oh you know what... you probably have a hard time distinguishing this so let me clarify; by saying "met", I was speaking specifically to "working with". Nothing more.
You have a real hard time comprehending things don't you? That's too bad. Good luck with that. Make sure to read this slowly, I wouldn't want you to have anymore trouble retaining the information.
My point is Apple gets a free pass for similar, same, or worse activities that MS gets ripped apart for.
Are the attacks principled, or is it only wrong when you are number one?
"Your post did NOT imply, at least to my reading, that you were only specifically speaking about the very first release"
Great point! Having said "OSX 10.0", I can see you would get confused. Oh wait, that does specifically state the first release. hmmmmm....
As far as my feelings or pride being hurt, they aren't, I do however get irritated with extreme stupidity. Of course your clarification of being a woman does help. I haven't met very many competent women in the IT world, and with that info your absurd attempt at a defense makes a bit more sense. Thanks.
I was "specifically discussing the very first release of that product" you idiot. ANYONE who used the product knows what a complete piece of shit it was. OSX 10.0 was horrible by all accounts. It was the first release, just like this phone is Apple's first attempt at a phone. It got much better, just like this mp3 phone will get better in other releases. I couldn't have been much more clear in my first post... you just tried to play a game of "got-ya" and it blew up in your face.
What happened is you thought you were allot more informed then you are. You showed yourself to be a rookie, an ignorant fool, and now, aren't man enough to admit you are embarrassingly wrong. The link I gave you to APPLE'S OWN WEBSITE SAYS IT IS OSX v10.4, NOT OSX!!!!!! EVEN THE BOX AT THE STORE SAYS OSX v10.4!
"Maintain" whatever you want, you are wrong, and look VERY stupid at this point. My guess is you are used to it, and just don't know enough to be embarrassed.
"Mainly because Microsoft is the only major company that's explicitly stated a desire to control all aspects of computer"
MS doesn't control the hardware, and has no intention of it, so that would make your statement false, "all aspects of computer". However, let me introduce you to Apple (www.apple.com). The company that not only bundles all the things MS bundles (media player, IE, etc.), but are a "monopoly" on hardware for their closed source operating systems (osx). Its a complete closed circuit system, realistically, worse then MS, but with a much much smaller market share.
Oh and don't kid yourself, Steve Jobs wants to "own the world". Anyone who has been around since the 80's knows damm well that Steve Jobs is no saint, he just got beat by MS. In any case, check them out, maybe you can start flaming them along with MS.
Wow, you are pretty smart. Maybe you should let apple know as well.
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"as a certain large software company located in the North-West of the United States of America might wish otherwise, there are many different operating systems and platforms in use in the world today. "
If his first sentence isn't trolling I don't know what is. Why is it ok to do it against MS, but nobody else?
You do it against MS, you make the front page, against apple you get flamed.
I don't believe Apple made the deal with Motorola with intentions of not cannibalizing their iPod line.
I think they had two motives. One, to get a foot in the door of an emerging market. Two, the 100 song limit gets most people to (in theory) spend $100 bucks at iTunes for their music. When they want to add more they have to buy a bigger device, and if they go with anything other then an iPod it is throwing away the $100 on the iTunes songs. It is a savvy business decision.
The first iPod wasn't perfect. There were lots of improvements made along the way. Even the nano has some problems (all the screen lawsuits). Apple just dropped the ball. Not Motorola either, Apple had almost complete control over this device (like they do with all their projects), and Motorola did what they wanted to get the deal. Apple wanted this to be a big hit, because it would eventually sell more iPods and get them in a new market.
I think it is far more likely that this story is a creation of an Apple zealot who can't reconcile that Apple is capable of making a bad product. They already know apple will make business decisions they don't support (150mil from MS, Intel Chips), and it's easier for them to believe Apple is brilliant/sneaky, then incompetent in an area.
Apple made OSX 10.0 as a way to drive people to Windows.
Seriosuly, how did this post make is to the front page of slashdot? Its a first attempt, they will get better over time, especially as technology improves. That aside, apple certainly doesn't want its good name attached to things that flop. Its bad PR.